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Acura MDX 2007

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  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Administrator Posts: 11,241
    Hi phillybigeasy - I noticed you've found the MDX accessories discussion. That's probably the best place for your question. We're primarly discussing the upcoming redesign in here, so you'll want to check the general MDX discussions for help.

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  • bayhobayho Member Posts: 1
    I've been waiting for the 2005 to come out. One of the changes I was hoping for is the telescopic steering wheel. Also, I would like to see one touch passenger window and sunroof as well as the rear door automatically opening and closing like the lexus. I noticed the new RL that has a hands free telephone a REAL wood trim. Any word on those? Have you heard what the new design will look like? They have been very tight-lipped about the 2005 so I'm sure the 2006 will be even more so.
  • sarahssarahs Member Posts: 1
    PLEASE somebody tell me if you know what changes the 2005 MDX has. I understand there may be new colors (thank God). But I'm dying to hear about new changes for 2005. ???

    Anybody????
  • rctennis3811rctennis3811 Member Posts: 1,031
    Bluetooth wireless technolgy
    New navigation system with voice-activated technology (as in TL)
    New exterior color (possibly a blue)

    Don't expect much changes since the MDX was significantly updated for MY04.
  • joeuserjoeuser Member Posts: 1
    Does anyone know if the 2005 MDX has a chance of gaining 200 pounds? I'd be *so* happy if its GVWR (curb weight + max payload) is over 6000 pounds.
  • thenewsthenews Member Posts: 11
    Since I've seen the new Odyssey and it is similar to the 2003 Accords. I suspect the new MDX will have similar characteristics. We all know that Honda/Acura rarely takes chances. I suspect 2006 redesign will look similar to the 2005 Odyssey with a x-over SUV flair. Being that the Pilot is based on the Odyssey platform. Honda/Acura doesn't take chances...their moves are calculated. So look at the Odyssey and raise it 5 inches and style the rear so it doesn't look so much like a minivan. It should look nice. I hope the new MDX has no radio antenna like the Accords. I also suspect if will be larger like the Odyssey. C'mon we all know subconciously that the crossover SUVs are essentially raised 4 wheel drive minivans. We just don't want to drive minivans/station wagons like our parents did. We are much more sophisticated, demanding, and value-based buyers. Anyhow...if we speculate more (i.e. perception/rumor becomes reality)...it's possible the Honda/Acura marketing/design analysts will see these posts and reflect it in the redesign to suit market's tastes.
  • aznstuartaznstuart Member Posts: 5
    Ummm...did you forget about the Element?? That was a big chance. Bad.
  • thenewsthenews Member Posts: 11
    Ummm...you're right! Thanks for the commentary aznstuart. It is appreciated but keep focus on 2005/2006 predictions, etc. Lets get more MDX constructive feedback! What about the Acura Navigation System with real-time traffic and the Acura Keyless Access system on the New RL prototype. That sounds like luxury to me!!!How about the one guy who would like to see a remote hatch like the Lexus 330. Anyhow,another good upgrade would be an integrated key fob like the 2003 and newer Accords. All the other luxury brands seem to have it. Why not Acura MDX? And "Yes" when it comes to car companies if others are doing it they need to do it too. It's called keeping up with the competition. C'mon MDX don't let up now. Don't you want your past luxury glory back. it's been years since you had it taken away by the likes of Lexus and Infiniti. I plan on buying a MDX I can be proud of and be able to brag to the other Lexus, Infiniti, BMW, Mercedes Benz, Volvo, and Porsche import SUV owners that I too have a luxury SUV with all the luxury features! I wish and pray!
  • thenewsthenews Member Posts: 11
    Shiftronic automatic transmission would be a plus! For those of you who do not know what shiftronic is it is the ability to shift your automatic like a manual just by pushing forward to upshift and downward to downshift.
  • mdxguymdxguy Member Posts: 4
    Well...sorrie to tell you guys this...but Acura/Honda is redesigning the MDX until the 08 model...when honda comes out with the SUT with the 3.8L V6 because they want to put a bigger engine in the MDX; They have to wait until the new engine to come out. Which will be on the new honda truck the SUT....so honda will update the styling in 06 MDX and Pilot...
  • fndlyfmrflyrfndlyfmrflyr Member Posts: 668
    Lot of words for:

    Slightly bigger gas tank
    Voice activated nav
    XM and onstar (that cost to keep)
    Bluetooth phone capability
    New colors
    Full airbag system

    Must be the political conventions....

    Still no headlight upgrade, no memory for the steering wheel, no memory for the passenger seat, and probably no rear bumper edge protection either.

    I wonder if the 2006 will get the RL's new 300 hp engine.
  • greg108greg108 Member Posts: 8
    I just bought a fully loaded 04, do you know how it compares to the 03?
  • otis123otis123 Member Posts: 439
    Click on the link at the bottom of post #121. It has a press release for the 2004 from 9/3/03. Just read it as I am coming close to buying a 2004, too.
  • deweydewey Member Posts: 5,251
    "I wonder if the 2006 will get the RL's new 300 hp engine"

    A future MDX at current prices would be quite a bargain if it had the new RL's 300hp engine.
    I have not considered buying an MDX, but if it had the same engine as the more expensive RL I would be most tempted to buy one( I love good values)
  • sandysandy Member Posts: 2
    You seem to know quite a bit regarding the 05 changes to the MDX. I haven't read anything about the interior color changes. Any news on that? The existing saddle leather could definitely be improved !!!
  • by2004by2004 Member Posts: 4
    "IBM's Breakthrough Embedded ViaVoice(R) Technology Recognizes Street Names; Solution Bundled with Real-Time Navigation and Zagat Survey

    IBM(R), the world leader in information technology innovation, today announced that it has jointly developed with Honda Motor Company a unique, hands-free and natural-sounding in-vehicle speech-recognition system - the industry's leading-edge navigation application. Honda will offer the system as standard equipment on the 2005 Acura RL and as options on both the 2005 Acura MDX and 2005 Honda Odyssey in the United States and Canada beginning this month."

    Read more at:
    http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmView- Id=news_view&newsId=20040901005526&newsLang=en
  • Firebird_EOUFirebird_EOU Member Posts: 250
    DVD audio

    Can rear entertainment play DVD-+R/RW?

    Are there any changes to the LCD screen for the rear entertainment system?
  • cheekscheeks Member Posts: 67
    I'm hoping to get this new tank retrofitted on to my 04'.
  • thenewsthenews Member Posts: 11
    Sorry to all about the long 2005 MDX posts. I found these links that have the latest press releases on the MDX: features, etc.

    http://hondanews.com/CatID3025

     or

    http://www.autodeadline.com/Brand?source=acura

    Goodluck to all in your decision and purchases. I plan on buying a 05 X. If any of you have questions on your local dealer ratings look at this site. The dealer rating link is on the right.

    http://www.acuramdx.org/
  • gregory28gregory28 Member Posts: 174
    When does the 2005 model
    hit the dealers?
  • thenewsthenews Member Posts: 11
    I just talked with American Honda customer service and the operator told me that the new X's will arrive in late September. I also contacted a local dealer here in the OC and he told me 2nd to 3rd week of October for their first delivery. I also asked about the new model redesign and he heard 2006. I hate that. I can wait but don't want to...now I can't decide. We'll see if the dealers are dealing. If they are closer to invoice than MSRP I suspect 2006 may really be the redesign year and not the 2008 some have suggested. Good luck to all. Remember...price is a function of demand. So don't be so willing to buy since there is a model change coming in 06. Maybe we can all get a good deal on an 04/05. Currently, the local dealers seem to have over 15 - 20 2004 X's in stock from internet inventory count. Hope that answers your question and then some.
  • chadwick_07chadwick_07 Member Posts: 5
    Does anyone know what the price increase will be on the new 05's. Trying to buy an 04 but not willing to pay $800 over invoice which is the best offer I've had. I may want to wait until January if I can purchase an 05 for $1200 - $1500 over invoice.
  • Firebird_EOUFirebird_EOU Member Posts: 250
    I was hoping to be avail in end of Sept.
  • thenewsthenews Member Posts: 11
    I just read an article in AutoWeek 2005 models that says there will be a refreshening in 2006 and a redesign in 2008. Any comments anyone?

    P.S. -- I picked up a 2005 brochure at a dealer last week. I can confirm the postings of others members that XM is standard (Free intro period), Onstar is available (Free intro period), bigger gas tank, Bluetooth, and better more responsive Voice NAV system. Too bad they did not make the XM real time traffic connection with the NAV system. I suspect its a software upgrade. Anyhow it would've been a great selling point? This is Acura's flagship SUV that has kept them in the game. Who's the genious that excluded it. I'm sure Acura/Honda has someone monitor the boards for user feedback. Anyways...the salesman told me that they are expecting the new model to come in in early October. Just a side comment...my local SoCal dealer has alot of 2004s on the lot.
    Good luck to all you potential X owners!
  • xenon240xenon240 Member Posts: 9
    I watched Car and Driver on Spike TV on the weekend, they had a spy photo of the redesigned MDX for 2006. Yes the model redesign is in 2006 not 2008. The picture indicated only slight changes to the front, slightly larger body, and a 3.7L V6 with over 300 HP.
  • hopeitsfridayhopeitsfriday Member Posts: 396
    There have been many rumors that the 06 MDX will be bigger, personally, I would not want a bigger truck than the current MDX. Don't know what Acura is thinking of in its re-design approch. They will have a small SUV, the RDX which is too small and the MDX, which will be too big. Sometimes, one should leave a good thing alone.
  • fndlyfmrflyrfndlyfmrflyr Member Posts: 668
    Depends on where it is made bigger. A couple more inches of row three knee room would be nice.
  • hopeitsfridayhopeitsfriday Member Posts: 396
    Two inches longer I can live with. I dont think they will or shouldn't make it any wider. If they lenghten by 6 inches or more, now we are getting into the suburban size. I bought the MDX because it wasn't a monster like the suburban or the land cruiser. I really dont mind the existing small third row seat because I hardly ever use it, but it does come in handly when I do need it. Like the MDX commerial said, not too big and not too small. I think the size of the MDX now is perfect.
  • thenewsthenews Member Posts: 11
    If you look at the Pilot versus the MDX dimensions...the differences are nominal and yet the pilot is a purported 8 passenger vehicle.

    Dimensions & capacities MDX Pilot Variance % Variance
    Third Row Legroom 29.3 " 30.2 " -0.9 -3.1%
    Third Row Headroom 36.1 " 38.9 " -2.8 -7.8%
    Third Row Hiproom 48.5 " 49.0 " -0.5 -1.0%
    Third Row Shoulder Room 58.6 " 59.7 " -1.1 -1.9%
    Passenger Volume 161 cu.ft. 177 cu.ft. -16 -9.9%

    If the interior dimensions for 3rd row Hip and shoulder room were increased with the current exterior dimensions as the limitation the X would possible be an 8 passenger vehicle although very tight.
  • hopeitsfridayhopeitsfriday Member Posts: 396
    If you look at the exterior dimension of the MDX and the pilot:
    The MDX:
    Length:188.7, width:77, Height:68.
    The Pilot:
    Length:188, width:77.3, Height:71.7.
    The Length and the width are almost identical, but the height is higher on the pilot. That is where most of the extra passenage and cargo rooms comes from. Kind of a useless space unless you are a really tall guy. I have check out the pilot's third row seat, it is not much bigger than the MDX.
  • thenewsthenews Member Posts: 11
    I know there is nominal difference in exterior and interior dimensions. I find that the Pilot's claim that it is an 8 passenger vehicle a bit exaggerated. Does a half inch in hip space really constitute and 8 passenger over a 7?

    P.S. -- the Acura.com website now reflects the 2005 model. Base $36,700
  • fndlyfmrflyrfndlyfmrflyr Member Posts: 668
    Don't count seat belts with respect to normal size adults. Three narrow adults or three kids can 'fit' in the third row of a Pilot, just like they can in my MDX. Four can fit in the second row too.

    A number of mini vans have similar sized third row seats in that they are too narrow for three normal size adults, but have three seat belts.

    Just depends on the size of the passengers - which is not specified in seating capacity claims. As a comparison, I measured the rear seat width and hip room in my Cruiser and compared it to the third row in my MDX. We have carried three normal size adults many times in the back seat of the Cruiser and find that it is a snug fit, but okay. There is almost 6 inches more hip room in the cruiser than in Pilot/MDX third row even though the rear seat width is the about the same (actually about an inch narrower in the PT).

    Comparing to a coach seat on a commercial passenger jet is another way to tell if three across normal size adults is practical. Virtually all coach seats are 17 inches wide or a little wider - 51 inches for three across.
  • fndlyfmrflyrfndlyfmrflyr Member Posts: 668
    In my post #143 I used incorrect measurements for the third row seat width of my MDX. I just measured my MDX third row and there is a little over 48 inches of hip room, but the third row seat itself, at the widest point, is about 42 inches. Therefore, my Cruiser rear seat is about 6 inches wider in both hip and seat width
  • hopeitsfridayhopeitsfriday Member Posts: 396
    The claim of the pilot being a 8 passenager vehicle is nothing more than a marketing scheme. The pilot's third row seat is maybe a couple inches wider. To seat three adults back there even for a short trip is torture. Unless they are your enemy. :-)
  • accordfreakaccordfreak Member Posts: 39
    It makes sense that the new MDX would be based on the same chassis as the 05 Odyssey. As for a bigger engine, is it really needed? I guess for the torque that an SUV buyer expects. Be sure that if Acura follows their patterns, expect to see the prototype at the 05 NY Auto show. I'm glad I live in NJ so I can see it in person. I can wait just about 1 more year. I just hope the 06 MDX is worth it.
  • thenewsthenews Member Posts: 11
    Don't you mean Frenemy? Anyhow, I am comforted in knowing that I am not alone in thinking this was a marketing ploy. 7/8 seats? 6, 1/2 dozen, or another. I will stick my frenemies in the wayyyy back seat. Like most posters on this site I really like the MDX! I plan on buying an 05. It seems as though there is a surplus on the lots; uncertainty in the economy; oil prices going throught the roof; and a possible redesign for 06 make this a good year to buy an X. We will see the new model go for the MSRP premium they have been commanding the last couple of years. Good Luck to all.
  • punjabi_sahibpunjabi_sahib Member Posts: 25
    i hate the fact that every one is confused that they think the redeign is in 06, its not, it is in '08 ,they will just refresh the look a little bit, little bit bigger tail lights and slightly bigger headlights, but nothing major to wait for at least thats what i think .
  • thenewsthenews Member Posts: 11
    Don't be mad. It's all just speculation. I read in Autoweek that 08 is the redesign. Not 06' But nevertheless the masses believe it so. So if that makes them wait...better for me since demand will be down on this vehicle in 05' which will drive the sales price closer to invoice. I hope! I'm with you...Honda/Acura is slow to change. We'll see if were right in 06.
  • otis123otis123 Member Posts: 439
    Japanese cars have always had a 5 year cycle- new model for 3 years [2001-2003]...freshened look for 2 years [2004-2005]...then new model [2006]. Why would the MDX be any different??
  • deweydewey Member Posts: 5,251
    "Japanese cars have always had a 5 year cycle- new model "

    The above statement is correct for most Japanese models. Unfortunately the statement is incorrect for Acuras. The Integra design remained the same from 94 -01 and the RL remained the same from 96-04.

    So why would the MDX be any different from the other Acura family members?

    The MDX is still competitive with the current RX330. Coincidentally the RX 330 will not be re-designed until the 08 model year and the MDX has the advantage of more seating capacity.

    MDX will have reasons to worry, if the hybrid RX400h are agressively priced. In fact if you are not too status consciuous, the hybrid highlander would be quite a compelling buy compared to an MDX or RX330.
  • leonivleoniv Member Posts: 120
    I agree with Dewey. The MDX is still very competive. Considering the MDX already undercuts the RX330 in price and the initial high demand of toyota hybrids, I don't see the RX400h being aggressively priced so the MDX should be safe there.
  • otis123otis123 Member Posts: 439
    As I wrote the above 5 year cycle comment I was thinking (and doubting myself) that some Acura models (RL) seem to have been around awhile.... I stand corrected. I'm not really familiar with Acura - I was going on knowledge of Toyota/Lexus, Subaru and Honda.

    That makes me feel better that my MDX will look like the current model for more than 1 year...

    :-)
  • hopeitsfridayhopeitsfriday Member Posts: 396
    There is talk of a hybrid MDX in 06.
  • leonivleoniv Member Posts: 120
    A hybrid MDX would be great. I'll hold off on the Honda hybrids until I see how their cylinder deactivation technology holds up. Most likely that technology will be incorporated in future Honda/Acura hybrids (even non-hybrids, like the new Ody). Any problems with that technology down the road could cost serious $$.
  • hopeitsfridayhopeitsfriday Member Posts: 396
    The 05 Accord V6 has the cylinder deactivation technology. It is a old technology going back 20 or 30 years with Chrysler, but we all will agree that Honda does not do anything half [non-permissible content removed]. This will be the next generation of cylinder deactivation technology, which will be computer controlled. I am sure what ever Honda come out with will be pretty relieble, ie: vtec.
  • deweydewey Member Posts: 5,251
    "There is talk of a hybrid MDX in 06."

    Without a new redesigned MDX hybrid there could be serious cannibalization from a new Acura RDX. I personally find the specs of the RDX quite tempting:
     
    -hybrid 4 cylinder(same 4 cyl. engine as the TSX)
    -6 speed manual(that will make me and other enthusiasts happy)
    -AWD
    -250hp
    will be among the fastest and most fuel efficient SUV in the market.
    -based on the CRV---worth a price premium if there is no hybrid CRV or even better if all RDXs are hybrid(this would make the RDX as differentiated as a Prius--one of the key reasons for its success)
    One disadvantage of the RDX is that it would have less seating/cargo capacity vs. the MDX.

    Overall I think I would prefer an RDX, especially if it priced significantly lower than a non-hyrid MDX
  • hopeitsfridayhopeitsfriday Member Posts: 396
    Have you seen the concept design of the RDX, it is uglyyyyyy.
  • ivan_99ivan_99 Member Posts: 1,681
    Cylinder deactivation is NOT an old technology, it is an old concept.

    The reason this old concept was no longer developed is because the technology did not exist to seamlessly integrate it.

    Human flight is an old concept, but it did not effectively come into the main stream until the mid 20th century.

    Stating that the deactivation technology has existed for 20 or 30 years gives the impression that reliability may not be an issue; but it is essentially unproven. Not that I'm opposed to new unproven technology, quite the contrary, but stating that the technology is mature may be misleading.

    Honda is not infallible
  • xenon240xenon240 Member Posts: 9
    punjabi_sahib:

    have a look at my post 136, Car and Driver Magazine talked about a re-design of the MDX for 06, there was a spy photo, 300Hp engine and slightly larger physical dimensions!

    I guess it all comes down to "what is the definition of a re-design". There are vehicles that hit a re-design after the fifth year but the platform does not change, just sheet metal, technology and interior appointments. If you dispute the talk of a re-designed MDX for 06 then take it up with Car and Driver Magazine!
  • punjabi_sahibpunjabi_sahib Member Posts: 25
    what i meant by refreshening is that they will make some changes but not extreme changes, larger tail lights and slightly larger headlights arent major and if u think the engine is a big change, since it came out its alredy had 25 horsepower added, '08 is when it will have made major changes to the mdx i do not know the changes, and can u tell me where you saw the changes for the '06 i want to have a look just out of curiousity.
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