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2016 Audi A7 3.0T S Line, 2021 Subaru WRX
$500 to fix a VSC glitch right after the warranty expired in Jan. 2003, we've had no problems since then. She'll buy a new car before the end of the year but we'll hang on to the ES, which will be my railroad station car for the next 5 or 6 years.
Sure, the electronic goodies found in today's more expensive cars can be costly to fix &
yes, you should take steps now to reduce the pain, but the right way to do that is by
building up your savings. Suppose that I'm buying a new Lexus. I want to keep it after the
warranty runs out, but I'm worried about costly out-of-warranty repairs. I could buy a
service contract & hope that the issuer is still in business in 4 or 5 years. Or I could
simply deposit $100 per month into an insured savings account. (I like ING Direct, which
requires no minimum balance, links to your existing checking account & is currently paying 3%. Please note that I'm neither a shareholder nor an employee.)
Does $100 per month sound like a lot of money? It's really only a few cents more than $3 per day. Certainly, anyone who can afford a new Lexus can scrape up $3 per day. Wouldn't you agree? If I can deposit that amount into a savings account yielding 3% - & if I can't, I really have no business buying a Lexus - I'll have $5093 when the factory warranty runs out after 4 years.
Now, let's suppose that I have to withdraw $2500 from my account in year 5 to fix some
electronic gremlins. Meanwhile, I'm still depositing $100 per month into my account, which continues to yield 3%, so at the end of the 1st full year out of warranty I have $3,888 available for repairs.
In effect, I'm self-insuring. This has 2 enormous advantages over paying a 3rd party to
assume this risk. First, I get to keep the interest that my money earns. Yes, interest rates have been low for the past few years, but they will rise. That means that the real cost of buying a service contract will also go up. By "real cost", I mean not just the initial
purchase price of the contract but the interest income that I sacrifice when I let someone
else hold my money.
Second, & perhaps more important, I'm in control. I don't have to wait for some faceless
administrator 2 time zones away to approve my claim. It's entirely up to me whether
brand-new or reconditioned parts go into my car. I hold the purse strings & I run the show
And that goes to the heart of the "peace of mind" that folks often cite as a reason for buying service contracts. For me, there's no peace of mind if I have to depend on someone else to make decisions that I can & should make on my own.
Very well said.
as far as the powertrain goes doesnt that cover it? the extended warranty only gives an additional 5k since the powertrain goes to 70k.
the extended warranty does cover the non powertrain componts of course though.
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So you have to ask yourself if you are picky about minor items braking down such as trim pieces, stereo, cruise, power windows, those kinds of things.
Is your Caravan going to have fancy things like power remote sliding door, or power hatch/tailgate, or power adjustable pedals, rear DVD system? If it's a fully loaded model then it might be worth it as car electronics are expensive to repair, unlike home elctronics which are cheap to replace, and pretty much disposable as they get obsolete every year.
I would much rather put that money towards a powertrain warranty extension than bumper to bumper, if possible.
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2016 Audi A7 3.0T S Line, 2021 Subaru WRX
I just checked with Servco Pacific (one of Chevrolet dealers in Hawaii) and was told they only accept API and Toyota warranties. I'm not sure if the svc. advisor was lying .... but anyone know of a company that would cover commercial vehicle?
Do you have the website or number for API?
I've said this probably a dozen or so times on this site: you will rarely see a full return of your money when you buy a service contract. Most people sell or trade their vehicles before enough goes wrong to pay for the contract. Most people who claim to have seen a full return are confusing items repaired under factory warranty with items repaired under service contract. I had one customer gush and cheer about how wonderful his service contract had been. He glossed over the fact that we had yet to make a claim on his contract, his truck was still under factory warranty!
I have been feeling great about my findings, but now I am stumped when it comes to warranties. How do I advoid getting taken for a ride? Can I be over charged for a warranty? What should I look for? :surprise:
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I have a couple of questions and if anyone has any thoughts or experience it would be great to here from ya!
1. Has anyone hooked up an iPod /Mp3 player to the sound system? Can you use the DVD aux jacks on for this?
2. I've read the postings on the Warranty issues with the 2004 but still don't know if it's 30/36 b2b or it has been upped to 50/60 b2b
3. Has anyone added fog light to and SL
4. Has anyone Added leather factory or aftermarket (ease of clean up 2 dogs 3 cats kid on the way)
5. Curious - favorite accessory?
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Janet
(1) 3k oil and filter changes...or 15 oil changes.
(2) Tire rotations every 6k miles, or every other oil change.
(3) Tranny fluid change at 30k miles.
(4) Radiator fluid change at 18k and 36k miles.
(5) 15 Point Inspection at every oil change.
We thought it was cheap insurance after we calculated the cost for these items at my local tire store. Another positive is that we live 1.6 miles from the dealership, as we live across the street the dealership.
Any comments?
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My dealership is 1.6 miles from my house and now the wife knows that we have 2 change the dino oil every 3k miles and get the other services also. Do we really need the tranny fluid change or the radiator fluid change at those intervals...maybe not. But we did have to change out the radiator in our '01 Altima following the recommended change intervals in the owners manual...and we still had to replace the radiator about 3k miles later!
So, it's like insurance to us and we're happy for the peace of mind...PERIOD!
Zoom Zoom!
The Sandman :sick:
Is this also true for Toyota. I bought an 05 Avalon from a dealer in Iowa, bought Toyota's Platinum Warranty from a Toyota dealer in Mass, and live and have my car serviced at a Toyota dealer in Florida. Any foreseeable problems?
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Bakeroid
Here's the thing, GMPP told me that I cannot cancel it from my dealer and get it from Blacks...they say once you buy it, you cannot ever get it again on that veichle! I called the Buick Company and all they could do was note the complaint about my dealership.
Does anyone know what to do? Are their any loop holes in the GMPP warrenty? We really want to stay with GM and switch to the $ 0 deductible. The dealership will not help us as of right now....but I have messages in to alot of people there.
If not, what are other warranties that are equally as good as GMPP?
Thanks, I appreciate any and all advice...........
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Good luck.
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Go post your questions over in "Any questions for a car dealer". There's some very sharp and decent people in the biz that can give you some very good advice.
Pity though, if they had just lived up to their warranty in the 1st place, none of this nonsence would've been necessary. Now they have a entry with the county of a consumer complaint. Never underestimate the power of the consumer. Very stupid company though. What do you think I told a good friend when they asked about their service and reliability...?
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1. It's illegal for another dealer to sell a warranty - says so in franchise agreement
2. Dealer will get "charged back" 100% penalty on parts/service done in event above takes place (not sure which dealer - the servicing dealer or the selling dealer)
3. If selling dealer goes out of business, warranty is worthless
4. If I don't buy the warranty before the delivery of the car, there is a $275 upcharge to buy the warranty.
5. Servicing dealer will see in "Oasis system" that warranty was not purchased at dealer and will not want to honor it.
This dealer is located in NY.
Is there an ounce of truth in anything this guy said? Thanks.
2. That dunt make no durn senses. :P
3. If the selling dealer sells you a 'dealer backed' service contract, he's right. If you buy a Ford ESP, he's wrong. Any Ford dealer Should honor Ford ESP.
4. Not true for GM protection plan, probably not true for Ford ESP.
5. This one is possible. Some dealers won't work on other dealers' vehicles. I don't care for the practice, but it happens. You may also have to wait longer for an appointment.
Oasis is a computer system linking Ford dealers. They can enter a Ford VIN and find information like warranty in-service date, mileage, warranty repairs done, what recalls need done. GM has GMVIS (vehicle inquiry system), Ford has OASIS.
This will hold true according to the mileage put on the vehicle at the time the warranty is purchased. If under 12K it prob. wont make much difference.
First off- you did the right thing by purchasing a manufactures extended warranty. I have seen some horror stories over the past few years. Never purchase any type of extend service contract that is not backed by the manufacture!!!! I worked for GM’s legal department in Tampa for 3 years; however left to purse other options Summer of 2004. Here are a few things I can tell you regarding your GMPP.
1. YOU MAY cancel your GMPP at any given time and receive the pro-rated monies back. Obviously if you cancel it 3 years after you purchased the vehicle you wont get much back however if you can do it soon you may get back most of your out of pocket expense back.
2. The GMPP is transferable to another owner. If I remember correctly the cost is around $100.00 to transfer the warranty from owner and owner. The GMPP does not transfer from vehicle to vehicle.
3. If you do cancel your GMPP do NOT do it through the dealer but do it through GMPP themselves (http://www.gmacitips.com). The GMPP website will allow you to play with the cost and what type of coverage you think you may need based on your driving habits and what you feel you wanted to protect.
Always remember dealers make tons off of extended warranties however hardly make any money off an extended warranty through the manufacture. Please contact GMPP and find out how much you will receive back today if you cancel the extended warranty. Then you can repurchase one in the future. I believe a used vehicle that has more then 12,000 miles has a minimum deductible of $50.00. Really what is $50.00 if your transmission has to be replaced at the cost of $ 2500??? And keep in mind the deductible is per Repair order at the dealer. Obviously a $27.00 broken ashtray won’t be worth the 50.00 deductible so just wait till something else needs replacing before you take it in.
I hope this helps. General Motors in all honestly has no control over horrible dealers. When buying a vehicle you sign a legal binding contract with that dealer and not the manufacture. However I can 100% insure you that every complaint that GM receives it documented so this dealer goes to renew its contract with GM to sell and service their vehicles it is looked upon. I know I may sound like advocate for GM, but I am not. I’m a happy Acura owner and have been even when I worked for GM !!!! I hope this helps out a little.
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Pathfinder LE 4wd, and i offer them $100 over cost which they gladly accept, but the prices
are still in the $1300 range ($50 ded.). Are they really this high? I plan on calling a few more, but
geez, I thought i could get closer to 1100.
If you get a dealer evaluation form from Ford, be sure to mention this experience.
i know with UnitedAuto i can take it to any ASE certified mechanic in the US and Canada. i love the fact they alot more than 12k miles a year, i love that they give you a better rental package, cover more than GMPP (or so I've heard), and costs less. i'm also more comfortable knowing they're 40% owned by Penske, have 151 dealerships of misc. makes nationally and 101 internationally. not to mention the fact they've posted positive earnings 10-15 million beyond their forecast every quarter for the past 3 years while GM seems to lose money. but i'm still nervous about going for an aftermarket warranty. any opinions?
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The sales folks for the aftermarket warranties will tell you ANYTHING to get your business and unless you're a Philadelphia lawyer that can read and understand all the fine print, you won't find things out until you have a claim.
I wanted them to take it to the ford dealership to insure any recall issues were resolved before picking the car up (they were), and had no surprises come up in the F&I office.
When I came back to pick the car up, they had come up with their own financing to show me (same interest rate) but with some changes to the deal:
1. Price had gone down $1500 (so much for "no-haggle"!)
2. They had added a $1500 Fidelity Warranty/JM&A/Carefree car protection 4/48 Goldplus plan ($100 deductible)
3. $600 gap insurance
I rejected the gap insurance outright, but took the extended "warranty" thinking I was getting it for "free." I realize now though, that maybe this wasn't a good idea, as I can see that it puts me upside down on my loan, for one. The car is too old for a manufacturer's warranty, but it sounds as if I will be at the whim of an adjuster on this plan.
I have 60 days to cancel the contract with no penalty, should I do so immediately or wait a month or to give it a "free trial"?
Should I cancel it at all, or did I get a good deal?
I don't want to "screw" the dealership by canceling the "service contract", but I never asked them to lower the car price by $1500, either!
Any advice would be so appreciated. This website is such a great resource!