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For a lease:
1.Get the best price on the car first.
2.Then negotiate the MF x 2400 = interest rate.
3.Don't let them add destination fees and if possible the security deposit, if you have a current lease with Acura, the security deposit should be automatically waived.
4.Residual Values are fixed so you have no leeway here.
I should mention my lease is based on 36 months / 15K miles / Navigation System.
Thanks again for any / all replies.
JRS
Having said that, two different mission statements for the Avalon and TL. To (very) loosely summarize:
Avalon = Japaneese Buick
TL = Japaneese Audi but with mucho power (I was going to say BMW, but that's really Infiniti).
For me, no comparison. Nice, bland, cushy family cruiser vs. sharply styled sport sedan. I bought the TL.
Disclaimer: I've never driven an Avalon, so my thoughts on the Toyota are simply from what I've seen/read of the car. Gotta do your own due dilligence...
'21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)
Since I am looking to make my purchase at the end of May, I will be patient and keep my eyes open for any changes. I am hoping that the end of month purchase puts me in a better position when it comes to negotiations.
I personally don't like driving Lexus cars. They are very nice, solidly built, and never break down. They also aren't a "slouch" for speed with high HP engines. But they are very soft, spongy feeling, such that acceleration makes you afraid rather than confident. I don't think anyone has ever faulted Lexus/Toyota for lack of HP, just lack of tightness.
Both are great cars. I really like the look of the Avalon, and I haven't driven it, but if it follows in the footsteps of previous Avalons, it will be soft and comfortable, but not aggressive and tight.
Thanks a lot for your post! I took your email to tustin acura and they were willing to offer me $200 higher than your price for a TL/navi + mud guard + wheel locks ($35,576 OTD). I finally took it because I didn't want to drive 65 miles and haggle again. I contacted keyes acura last month and also found their offers were the best.
'05 TL/navi for $32,400 + $500 tax/tag/fees + 4.59%/60mo financing
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I think you picked the better car, frisconick!
I'm fixing to buy a TL. I got a quote from a dealer in Dallas, TX for a TL w/ NAV + deck spoiler + wood trim + tint + wheel lock for $35600 out the door. Is this a good price to buy, or should I bargain to lower a few more dollars.
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I live in Southern California. This weekend I purchased at TL without nav. from Santa Monica Acura for $30,734 including transportation. The only added charges to that amount were sales tax and title fees. (The State of California makes more on these transactions than the car dealers and represents horrible value, but that discussion is for another time...........)
I originally sent requests for quote to about 7 Southern California dealers. I obtained their names from the Acura website. Based on the initial responses I selected 3 dealers and asked them to give me their final prices. All three dealers were within $200. This was a bidding not a negotiating process. All three of the dealers were very professional via email.
It took an hour to have the car delivered at Santa Monica Acura. Much of that time was spent in the dealer filling the gas tank. There were no hidden or surprise charges. It was a very good experience.
The TL is a great car. The drive home and then around town on Sunday was great. My wife will be the main driver of the car and she was thrilled.
Thanks to the information on this forum I was able to pull the trigger yesterday on a '05 TL auto w/NAV (black/black). My price was $32451.00 before taxes and tags etc., out the door price was $33786.00 with the pro-pack thrown in.
Let me know what you guys think of this deal and if anyone needs more information.
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I am hunting for a 6Sp Navi TL in red. Dealer told me, that since it is a rare car, they will charge me more, and special ordering it may take up to 2 months. Should I believe, or go elsewhere? ( I am in Maryland).
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BTW, the one red one that is available is located at Criswell Acura. They definitely arent dealing with me on it. 2006 deliveries are too close for me to pay almost sticker for a 2005 car, I wont buy be buying that one.
I'm sorry you had a bad experience. Don't let an experience with one bad person at the dealership spoil your entire opinion of the place, unless the owner refused to work with you. It sounds like they are trying to make it right for you.
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To answer the 6spd w/ no navi question. I have read that 200-400 over invoice is a good price. Good luck, the dealers in nova are trying to claim that 6spds are rare because of demand, which is not true. They are rare because not many are made and in this area manuals dont sell well. Most TLs sold in nova will be auto, almost nobody wants a 6spd because of traffic.
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I have an appointment at Pohanka tomorrow at noon to negotiate a purchase price for a new TL w/Nav. Any information you can provide will be greatly appreciated.
A buddy of mine was also in the market for a TL and we decided to buy together. That helped.
As for the sales guy, I had a post pulled from here because I inadverently mentioned his name. Just ask for the african american 'son of the queen of england' who sold 2 black TLs with NAV on tuesday night - tell him you got the info. from the guy who got the black/black TL.
Hope this helps and good luck !!
Wanted to let you know. I bought a 6spd TL w/ Navi (w/ wheel locks, trunk tray, molding) for $33,000 + tax/title at Norm Reeves Acura in Temecula, CA (north of San diego). I did most of my dealing by phone and email with their internet sales person. He was easy to deal with, and I was in and out in 2 hours. No creepy haggling or "talking to my manager." The finance dept. was also very efficient and explained all of the paperwork thoroughly. I would buy from them any time. I actually used user quotes from this website to assure I got a good price.
Just thought you guys would want to know.
I am undecided on color (White, Silver or Anthracite most likely) and I am not sure if I am going to spring for the Navi or not. I like the idea of the Navi, but I would like to keep the cost down.
Is the Navi worth the $$$?
Is there anyone who has had a great experience in the area?
And lastly, I see some TL's with tinted windows that make the look a little more sporty, but most don't have the tint. Does the dealer do that or is that aftermarket?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Two questions: (1) I've seen different posts say the protection package includes either all weather mats or a trunk tray. Which is it? (2) What is the market rate for this car in Chicagoland? I can travel to any dealer.
Thanks for your help.
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I just picked up my Acura TL (Dark Blue with Gray interior w/ Navi) from Mike Harvey Acura in Burlingame, CA (Bay area) on the May 2nd for $33,000. This included a destination charge of $570, Mud guards $150, tire locks of $70, and all season mats $150.
Net, Net, Net, I guess the base price was $32,430 (not including all the small little things) which sounds pretty good. My one recommendation to potential buyers is to grind down two or three dealers on price, and keep saying that the other dealer is dropping their price. I think the best you can get out there is about $32,000 w/ Navi so if you are within $500 (ie $32,500) you should grab it.
The car is great, good luck!
Can you tell the internet manager who originally helped you so they get any commissions/credit?
Just trying to be fair.
Thanks for your help.
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Good luck!
Nav: very cool feature! I love it and find it worth it for even small outings to restaurants I've never been to before. Definitely makes driving easier.