2013 and earlier-Acura TL Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • payoffpayoff Member Posts: 12
    Do you think the MF @ .0024 is as good as it gets? I think their buy rate is under 5?

    For a lease:

    1.Get the best price on the car first.

    2.Then negotiate the MF x 2400 = interest rate.

    3.Don't let them add destination fees and if possible the security deposit, if you have a current lease with Acura, the security deposit should be automatically waived.

    4.Residual Values are fixed so you have no leeway here.
  • jsark994jsark994 Member Posts: 8
    Quick follow up:

    I should mention my lease is based on 36 months / 15K miles / Navigation System.

    Thanks again for any / all replies.

    JRS
  • laurasdadalaurasdada Member Posts: 5,253
    Dude, you shouldn't let anyone "convince" you to buy a certain car. Test drive 'em both, decide what best fulfills your needs, wants and desires (and finances) and go from there.

    Having said that, two different mission statements for the Avalon and TL. To (very) loosely summarize:

    Avalon = Japaneese Buick
    TL = Japaneese Audi but with mucho power (I was going to say BMW, but that's really Infiniti).

    For me, no comparison. Nice, bland, cushy family cruiser vs. sharply styled sport sedan. I bought the TL.

    Disclaimer: I've never driven an Avalon, so my thoughts on the Toyota are simply from what I've seen/read of the car. Gotta do your own due dilligence...

    '21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)

  • kjpkjp Member Posts: 12
    Thanks again. I was able to verify what you said and 3% appears to be the magic number for holdback. I also was unable to find any incentives etc. However, I will continue to check. I thought about ordering one of those car buyer reports that Consumer's offers but it seems like it will not equip me with any more info than I have already received from this forum.

    Since I am looking to make my purchase at the end of May, I will be patient and keep my eyes open for any changes. I am hoping that the end of month purchase puts me in a better position when it comes to negotiations.
  • frisconickfrisconick Member Posts: 1,275
    thanks for input aurasdada! Japanese Buick lol. The new Avalon has a 280 hp engine, so it's no slouch. But I have decided on the TL, it's a much cooler car on many levels. But the new Avalon is no longer just a big Camry, it's new styling is very nice and sporty for a big car. Thanks again aurasdada.
  • liferulesliferules Member Posts: 531
    They're totally different cars (obviously...) in many regards. IMO, the avalon is for those who want a Lexus-like drive (smooth, silent, almost not knowing they are driving on a road). This is not something good or bad, just a preference of some people. The TL, OTOH, is a swift, aggressive styled, performance auto. More for those who like the joy of driving and getting feedback from the road (again, neither good nor bad, just another driver preference).

    I personally don't like driving Lexus cars. They are very nice, solidly built, and never break down. They also aren't a "slouch" for speed with high HP engines. But they are very soft, spongy feeling, such that acceleration makes you afraid rather than confident. I don't think anyone has ever faulted Lexus/Toyota for lack of HP, just lack of tightness.

    Both are great cars. I really like the look of the Avalon, and I haven't driven it, but if it follows in the footsteps of previous Avalons, it will be soft and comfortable, but not aggressive and tight.
  • r_lr_l Member Posts: 5
    tokash,

    Thanks a lot for your post! I took your email to tustin acura and they were willing to offer me $200 higher than your price for a TL/navi + mud guard + wheel locks ($35,576 OTD). I finally took it because I didn't want to drive 65 miles and haggle again. I contacted keyes acura last month and also found their offers were the best.
  • badambadam Member Posts: 1
    After educating myself with the forums here, I recognized a good deal when it was offered by Bradshaw Acura in Greenville, SC:

    '05 TL/navi for $32,400 + $500 tax/tag/fees + 4.59%/60mo financing

    :shades:
  • frisconickfrisconick Member Posts: 1,275
    You hit the nail on the head liferules! That's why I am going with the TL, even though I have not test drove the Avalon, I have a Camry now, and I expect the Avalon ride to be very similar to the Camry.
  • liferulesliferules Member Posts: 531
    It was kind of happen chance, but MotorWeek (the PBS show) had a review of the new Avalon yesterday (I think you can see it via .wav on the website as well). First, they actually mentioned the word "Buick" several times when discussing it. Second, I really liked the exterior, but absolutely hated the interior with that plain, stainless steel center console. Very cheap looking for a car IMO.

    I think you picked the better car, frisconick!
  • frisconickfrisconick Member Posts: 1,275
    Thanks for the feedback liferules! I love the feel of the TL, I actually think the ride is better than the BMW. :P
  • nvnnvn Member Posts: 2
    hi all,

    I'm fixing to buy a TL. I got a quote from a dealer in Dallas, TX for a TL w/ NAV + deck spoiler + wood trim + tint + wheel lock for $35600 out the door. Is this a good price to buy, or should I bargain to lower a few more dollars.

    Thanks
  • consult77consult77 Member Posts: 26
    Hello,

    I live in Southern California. This weekend I purchased at TL without nav. from Santa Monica Acura for $30,734 including transportation. The only added charges to that amount were sales tax and title fees. (The State of California makes more on these transactions than the car dealers and represents horrible value, but that discussion is for another time...........)

    I originally sent requests for quote to about 7 Southern California dealers. I obtained their names from the Acura website. Based on the initial responses I selected 3 dealers and asked them to give me their final prices. All three dealers were within $200. This was a bidding not a negotiating process. All three of the dealers were very professional via email.

    It took an hour to have the car delivered at Santa Monica Acura. Much of that time was spent in the dealer filling the gas tank. There were no hidden or surprise charges. It was a very good experience.

    The TL is a great car. The drive home and then around town on Sunday was great. My wife will be the main driver of the car and she was thrilled.
  • bargn_hntrbargn_hntr Member Posts: 8
    All -
    Thanks to the information on this forum I was able to pull the trigger yesterday on a '05 TL auto w/NAV (black/black). My price was $32451.00 before taxes and tags etc., out the door price was $33786.00 with the pro-pack thrown in.

    Let me know what you guys think of this deal and if anyone needs more information.

    thanks
  • montyburnzmontyburnz Member Posts: 17
    Man, I can't seem to get a good price on a TL w/ NAVI here in MN. I can't even get close to any $32xxx. Most of the dealers are reluctant to get to even mid 33s. Has anyone had better luck around here? They also say they don't have a lot of TL w/ NAVI in stock. Don't know if that's just salesguy speak though.
  • liferulesliferules Member Posts: 531
    Great deal! Take it!
  • jet1234jet1234 Member Posts: 16
    Wow. That's great deal. What dealership is that? (I'm familiar with that area.) Thanks!
  • genka8genka8 Member Posts: 1
    Hello, everyone!
    I am hunting for a 6Sp Navi TL in red. Dealer told me, that since it is a rare car, they will charge me more, and special ordering it may take up to 2 months. Should I believe, or go elsewhere? ( I am in Maryland).
    Thanks
  • dwarflorddwarflord Member Posts: 2
    What a coincidence. I too am looking for a red/parch 6MT/Nav in the NOVA area. I have run across the same problem. There are only 2 in the entire east coast. 1 is in New York, the other in Maryland. I sent an email to the Maryland dealer and they want $34.5 for the car, plus dest, TTL which is too much for me. I think I will be ordering through a diff. dealer to get a better price. I am hearing 6-8 weeks for a special order. There should be no hike in price if it is special ordered. The only difference is that they have to find one being made at the factory and work out a trade with the receiving dealership for another car. It just takes a little bit more effort to acquire, but shouldnt cost you more.
    BTW, the one red one that is available is located at Criswell Acura. They definitely arent dealing with me on it. 2006 deliveries are too close for me to pay almost sticker for a 2005 car, I wont buy be buying that one.
  • fletcherpoodlefletcherpoodle Member Posts: 2
    Has anyone recently purchased a 6sp TL minus Navi in NOVA/DC/MD area lately? Just wondering what I should be expecting.
  • bargn_hntrbargn_hntr Member Posts: 8
    Pohanka Acura in Chantilly.
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Administrator Posts: 11,249
    Hi Ron,
    I'm sorry you had a bad experience. Don't let an experience with one bad person at the dealership spoil your entire opinion of the place, unless the owner refused to work with you. It sounds like they are trying to make it right for you.

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  • proffyproffy Member Posts: 46
    I'm looking for a reputable dealer to get a TL from, I'm thinking about going with McGrath Acura in Westmont. Had anyone heard anything good or bag about them?
  • dwarflorddwarflord Member Posts: 2
    I havent heard anything about them. I wonder where we can search to get some background info on them. If I find anything Ill let you know.

    :P

    To answer the 6spd w/ no navi question. I have read that 200-400 over invoice is a good price. Good luck, the dealers in nova are trying to claim that 6spds are rare because of demand, which is not true. They are rare because not many are made and in this area manuals dont sell well. Most TLs sold in nova will be auto, almost nobody wants a 6spd because of traffic.
  • montyburnzmontyburnz Member Posts: 17
    From what I've heard, they seem to have a good tire/wheel warranty package.
  • liferulesliferules Member Posts: 531
    My buddy Ron said they "rock!". And the other day, when I forgot to sign my contract, they told me it was OK, that they'd take care of it and that I didn't need to come down...

    :shades:
  • tlrsxtlrsx Member Posts: 1
    That is a great price! Congratulations! How did you get such a deal? Would you please give me the name or initials of your sales person and more importantly the sales manager who approved the deal.

    I have an appointment at Pohanka tomorrow at noon to negotiate a purchase price for a new TL w/Nav. Any information you can provide will be greatly appreciated.
  • bargn_hntrbargn_hntr Member Posts: 8
    tlrsx -
    A buddy of mine was also in the market for a TL and we decided to buy together. That helped.

    As for the sales guy, I had a post pulled from here because I inadverently mentioned his name. Just ask for the african american 'son of the queen of england' who sold 2 black TLs with NAV on tuesday night - tell him you got the info. from the guy who got the black/black TL.

    Hope this helps and good luck !!
  • mpjmpj Member Posts: 11
    Did anyone find out if this price inlcude the $570 delivery charge?
  • genkagenka Member Posts: 9
    Well, they definetely will not get us into a bidding war against this car!. I woud prefer a factory order anyway- wouldn't want to buy a car after several test drives by people, who barely know how to drive stick, and want to "test performance" on unbroken-in engine.
  • tomichi79tomichi79 Member Posts: 1
    Guys,

    Wanted to let you know. I bought a 6spd TL w/ Navi (w/ wheel locks, trunk tray, molding) for $33,000 + tax/title at Norm Reeves Acura in Temecula, CA (north of San diego). I did most of my dealing by phone and email with their internet sales person. He was easy to deal with, and I was in and out in 2 hours. No creepy haggling or "talking to my manager." The finance dept. was also very efficient and explained all of the paperwork thoroughly. I would buy from them any time. I actually used user quotes from this website to assure I got a good price.

    Just thought you guys would want to know.
  • blondebuyerblondebuyer Member Posts: 6
    I'm looking to buy the 05' TL auto w/Navi this week. Can a recent NoVA buyer give me the OTD cost and where you purchased the car? Any other helpful information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
  • panthersfanpanthersfan Member Posts: 4
    I am looking at buying a TL this month and have found this forum very helpful thusfar. If anyone can give me some advice on buying a TL in the Charlotte, NC area I would appreciate it. Hendrick Acura is the only local dealer, but I am willing to drive a little ways to get a better deal/experience if there is any feedback.

    I am undecided on color (White, Silver or Anthracite most likely) and I am not sure if I am going to spring for the Navi or not. I like the idea of the Navi, but I would like to keep the cost down.

    Is the Navi worth the $$$?
    Is there anyone who has had a great experience in the area?
    And lastly, I see some TL's with tinted windows that make the look a little more sporty, but most don't have the tint. Does the dealer do that or is that aftermarket?

    Any help would be appreciated.

    Thanks
  • fletcherpoodlefletcherpoodle Member Posts: 2
    Got the car for $30850 including processing fee of $249. I also looked at Chevy Chase Acura and Radley Acura, but Pohanka gave me the best price.
  • mpjmpj Member Posts: 11
    I am getting ready to purchase a 2005 TL w/Nav and protection package (wheel locks, splash guards & all weather mats). Color with either be Silver/Ebony or White/Parchment - still undecided.

    Two questions: (1) I've seen different posts say the protection package includes either all weather mats or a trunk tray. Which is it? (2) What is the market rate for this car in Chicagoland? I can travel to any dealer.

    Thanks for your help.
  • frisconickfrisconick Member Posts: 1,275
    That's an excellent price, only about 1,000 more than the dealer paid for the car. I was wondering if I bought the car out right would they give me price break? :shades:
  • achill3xachill3x Member Posts: 1
    After researching and going online for almost 3 months looking for the best quotes, I finally decided to go w/ Chevy Chase Acura. I would recommend them to anyone who lives in the DC/MD/NoVA area. The internet manager is really cool and very courteous. They are the only dealership that gave me a quote right of the bat, other dealers gave you all this "bs" about what color, options, etc. I wanted, even though I specifically stated the exact things I wanted when I asked for the quote. Anyways, I purchased the 2005 Acura TL automatic w/ Navi at $33199. The sales person also included, the wheel locks, splash guards, and body side molding w/ this price. The out-the-door (OTD) price which included just my tags (<$200) & taxes (MD=5% of $33199) was just a little bit over $35K OTD. This dealership also provides FREE car washes for life, for cars purchased from them. This was no extra cost, its just their way of taking care of their customers....works for me!!!
  • blondebuyerblondebuyer Member Posts: 6
    On a previous forum someone stated that there was a "secret" holdback of $1,000. Does anyone know if this is still true?
  • frisconickfrisconick Member Posts: 1,275
    Yes, Acura has a holdback of about 1,000. This information comes from Consumer Reports, not from me.
  • blondebuyerblondebuyer Member Posts: 6
    Does this mean that a buyer could potentially get a deal below invoice?
  • frisconickfrisconick Member Posts: 1,275
    Yes :P
  • tmp0404tmp0404 Member Posts: 9
    I live in the Lehigh Valley area, about 60 miles north of Philly, and there is only 1 local Acura dealer. I'm looking to purchase an automatic TL with out the Nav. The best price the local dealer offered was about $1000 over their invoice. I mentioned that I know they also are getting a dealer holdback of about the same amount. Can you provide the names of any dealers that are close by where you received a better deal? Also, any internet sales contacts would be appreciated. Thanks in advance for your suggestions. From what I have been reading here, I don&#146;t think the local dealer is offering a fair price.
    :confuse:
  • pjt6970pjt6970 Member Posts: 38
    the green or the beige. still trying to figure this one out. any memorial day specials yet? they did 4yrs ago when i got my RL
  • kjpkjp Member Posts: 12
    I'm with you on that one. I am also waiting and hoping for Memorial Day specials here in NY. I am trying to time my purchase just right ;)
  • mike4presidentmike4president Member Posts: 1
    First, I wanted to thank all of the previous posters to this web site. It hold tremendous information on how to, and more importantly how much one should pay for an Acura TL.

    I just picked up my Acura TL (Dark Blue with Gray interior w/ Navi) from Mike Harvey Acura in Burlingame, CA (Bay area) on the May 2nd for $33,000. This included a destination charge of $570, Mud guards $150, tire locks of $70, and all season mats $150.

    Net, Net, Net, I guess the base price was $32,430 (not including all the small little things) which sounds pretty good. My one recommendation to potential buyers is to grind down two or three dealers on price, and keep saying that the other dealer is dropping their price. I think the best you can get out there is about $32,000 w/ Navi so if you are within $500 (ie $32,500) you should grab it.

    The car is great, good luck!
  • kaushikgkaushikg Member Posts: 26
    Hi The with NAVI in Tischer was a good 500 over invoice. I haven't tried to haggle with them yet.
  • mpjmpj Member Posts: 11
    After you have gone to a couple dealerships and done the test drives with a salesman, how do you get the pricing over the internet from the same dealer without "screwing" the saleman who helped with the test drive?

    Can you tell the internet manager who originally helped you so they get any commissions/credit?

    Just trying to be fair.
    Thanks for your help.
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Administrator Posts: 11,249
    Since your question isn't specific to the Acura TL, you're going to get more complete responses in our Internet vs. Traditional Car Buying discussion. Hop over there and post your questions, and you'll get some ideas.

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  • liferulesliferules Member Posts: 531
    You can obtain internet estimates from other dealerships, then present your "test drive" salesperson (by phone, ideally so you don't waste too much time with "I've got to check with my manager"...) with your best bid and ask him/her to beat it...

    Good luck!
  • liferulesliferules Member Posts: 531
    Tinted windows: A lot of dealers in my area do it already, then either comp it or try to get a little extra for it... If the car you buy doesn't have it, you can ask the dealership to do it (maybe make your deal contingent on it), or do it aftermarket (cheaper often times, and also oftentimes better done...) at a pro-tint specialist.

    Nav: very cool feature! I love it and find it worth it for even small outings to restaurants I've never been to before. Definitely makes driving easier.
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