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I just placed a deposit on 2006 H-6 outback base cloth wagon in champagne opal gold. The msrp is 30,017 and we agreed on 25,000 dollars before tax, title and registration (99 dollars). I am happy with the deal, i will get the car on tuesday or wednesday. any thoughts
-juice
Very good experience, great car. got the Atlantic blue. Also got the 2.9% financing and wish I could have afforded to do the 2-year financing at 0%, but all in all a great deal. Subaru has great incentives on a great car right now and Fitzmall. Highly recommended. Also thanks to the forum, which I used for weeks to track prices and do research. A great resource for consumers.
Also, salesman told me he does not work on commission. True? But there does seem to be a commission-like system based on customer satisfaction, apparently.
I've seen quite a few used 2005/2006 outbacks listed on autotrader and cars.com in the Minneapolis area thar are below Bluebook...alot below it in some cases. After doing a carfax on them, they appear to be former rental cars.
Should I steer clear of these vehicles or are they worth looking into. I intend to have the car inspected before I purchase but I am concerned that these cars have been used, abused and poorly maintained. Thanks! Carolyn
-juice
-juice
What options are on the cars you're looking at?
When you start talking price-of-the-car, I back out the TTL and come up with $25675 as the figure you're posting. If that's an auto with no options, you're really only about $500 over invoice AFTER the doc fee, which around here ain't bad. If there are options, that might really be a killer deal. If it's a manual with no options, it's more than $1300 over, which isn't good at all.
If you're in the northeast part of the state, it might be worth a trip to Fitzmall in the DC area... I think they're about $700 below invoice!
**Yes, I'm properly accounting for the rebate here. Base invoice on the manual is $26315, on the auto is $27227. And I'm assuming that's a post-rebate price that was quoted in the original post.
Thanks,
Melinda
You should be able to knock off another $1000. I am taking a delivery for a similar optioned car 2.5i (auto) limited wagon with subwoofer for exactly a thousand less than your quote from a dealer in Seattle area. The price is ofcourse pre-tax.
He quoted $24,422 for the car in Southern New York. Does this sound like a good price. No extras that I saw. I appreciate the helpful advice. I need to know before Wednesday morning when the financing deal ends. Thanks.
with Subaru's rebate and am very happy. Quirk Auto in ME gives great service and no pressure. Smooth transaction.
What dealer did you work with in Seattle area? I am in the market for a 2.5i limited, or an XT, but with manual transmission.
Sounds like you got a good/fair deal.
Thanks...
I also took advantage of the 2 year 0% financing.
Anyway, we went on our first trip in the car over the weekend and got about 27mpg and enjoyed the drive greatly!!!
I am not the best negotiator, so I was thinking of working with one of the agencies that buys cars for you for cheap, but I might need to rethink. I was quoted $25,240 for the limited auto. What Seattle are dealership did you work with? Just might need to stop in today. :confuse:
I used the "fax attack" strategy similar to that advocated by fightingchance.com. Basically, I sent out about 10-12 faxes to area Subaru dealerships, asking them for their best price quotes. I received 8 replies. The lowest price bids were received from Fitzgerald (Fitzmall) in MD, Stohlmann (in Tysons Crnr, VA) and Heritage (in Owings Mills, MD). I ended up calling our local dealership, Paul Bros. of Herndon, VA (whose intial quote was $900 higher, and they agreed to match the lowest price, so I ended up purchasing from them. So, in the end, here's how the pricing broke down for the Atl blue Outback 2.5i, auto, cloth seats, with all-weather mats: $22,949, less 2000 rebate, plus taxes, tags and fees for a total OTD price of $21,797.47. We also took advantage of the 0% financing, so ended up with a nice pkg. We did all this by computer, and only had to spend 20 minutes at the dealership to sign the final papers and drive away with the car.
All in all, if you live in the Washington DC metro area, the dealerships that offered me the most competitive prices right off the bat were Fitzgerald (very pleasant and professional)and Stohlman (although the salesman here was a bit hard-edged). Other dealerships even admitted that they have a hard time beating the prices of these two large sellers. The use of the fax attack resulted in a lowering of their initial pricing by about $100 - so not sure if it was worth the time and effort, altho it did confirm for me that I was getting a decent deal.
Hope this helps and good luck shopping!
Carter Subaru... deal with their internet guy. www.cars101.com is his site. I paid slightly under $24K for 2.5i limited (auto). And if you are in the US, apparently you also get their 0% financing. Heck of a deal. I did not have to negotiate any deal. He offered me a fair deal.
I did not have to negotiate anything.
With a package that included the weather mats, the cargo area mat and net, and the autodimming mirror, we close on $21,836, final price. Also, they give me 2 years of free mantainance. Just $5,000 off invoice. At the beginning of the month I bought my wife's Sienna $4,000 under invoice, so its a good streak. I think this dealer has like 3 more in stock.
The deciding factor for the manager, was showing Fitzmall quotes, which I printed before,(in Pennsilvania thought), where prices were cheaper, but at the end, the guy decided to honor it. As told, I was into this dealership looking for a good opportunity to buy, even thinking about a new Forester '06 at $18,500. They have like 6 in stock.
The only think I didn't like was all the haggle, because previously by phone I thought I had the price settled.
If you need more info, tune in this thursday the Subaru Chat. Those people who attended last thursday, made me open my eyes on the opportunity that Subaru is giving now.
$27,012 MSRP
$23,490 Sale Price
They did offer $8K for a 2001 F150 Supercrew with 82K miles. Runs good but has some exterior flaws.
Obviously she bought it anyway and has driven it up until now, without the slightest problem. She recently bought a new car and wants to sell the civic. She has taken care of the civic, maintenancing(sp?)it regularly. My wife and I are interested because it seems like a good car. What should we be concerned about if we decide to buy it?
Sounds like it's been a long time, and no problems have crept up, so you have inside knowledge. Still, the car has less value than an equivalent non-salvage car, no matter how good it's been.
It's a potential deal if she gives you a good price...
-juice
FYI..they offered me a 6 year/72K mile bumper-to-bumper extended warranty for about $950. I might take them up on that.
Remember you get roadside assistance for the full 6 years. OE replacement parts, too.
-juice
Options: Splash Guards and all Cargo nets (4) in the rear trunk area.
Total out the door cost was $21,500 including tax and tags.
Breakdown:
MSRP: $24973 (Note: cargo nets were thrown in at no cost, did not reflect in the sales price).
Discount: $2876.24
Less: $2000 rebate
Selling price: $20096.24
Taxes: $1109.76
Dealer Fee: $99
Reg/title: $20
MD tire recycle fee: $4
MVA fees - 2 yr. Reg 128+ Title 23 + lien 20: $171
Total: 21500.00
Excellent salesman, very courteous and professional. No pressure/gimmicks. Even let me do a full test drive yesterday. Customary full tank of gas provided. Bought at Herb Gordon Subaru in Silver Spring (Briggs Chaney Rd auto park).
I took advantage of the 'free money' (0% for 24 months, no processing fees here) for part of the purchase price. Why not?
Service dept. let me pick up the auto dimming mirror/compass + homelink kit for $175 delivered outside the deal.
I'm still curious because I have an "opportunity" to buy a 2006 Caravan with 5 miles on it for $11k. The problem (as reported): Hail damage. It is all body work and looks like it is a relatively inexpensive fix.
What kind of "gotchas" should I look for?
The van is in Tennessee and I live in Georgia.
Can I insure it?
Will it have manufacturer warranty?
It's a huge risk. If it's stolen you may be out $11,000.
I think the manufacturer's warranty will not cover the paint or body, i.e. anything that may have been affected by the hail. The powertrain should still be covered, but you should verify that.
I'd still avoid this van like Mad Cow Disease.
-juice
Traded in a '92 Honda Accord with 137k miles, average condition(that had a salvaged title -unbeknownst to me as I bought it used a few years back from a private party.)
Bottom line: Told my salesman that I didn't care how he did it but I wanted to pay $20k plus TTL, nothing more. Dealer utilized $2,000 rebate and the trade-in and got it done. All told I paid $22k and change, including TTL (about 10%).
Just want to know, did I do OK? Figure I didn't do bad but after reading the various posts I was just wondering what others think. Thanks!
I'm thinking about leasing a 2006 Subaru 2.5i Wagon (automatic, 48 months, 12K miles per year). We were quoted $376, $0 down in Riverhead Long Island.
Any thoughts greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Anyhow I was pleased with the deal, add tax (nasty 5%), title, tag, doc fee and total was 21,639. This deal was in ME.
-juice
The dealer I bought from cleared out the 06 legacy outback 5 spd (msrp25k+-)recently at 19995, but sold out before I got there. I was satisfied with the 07 price, even the dealers got to make a little and Im sure they did.
Just bought an 06 Willow Green Auto 2.5i Wagon last night. Ironically I think I could have gotten a better deal 2 months ago on the same promotion (ending Sept 5 - $2000 cash back + 0.0%). Multiple dealers have told me that prices have gone up from July since the selection is dwindling on 06s. Was talking to about 4 dealers and there were mostly white and champagne left (which we didn't really want).
Anyway, thought I'd post my deal for any would be buyers this holiday weekend.
Started at invoice + destination (24,917) minus $2000 (though this comes off at the end so Tax is charged on the sale price before) and $7200 trade in credit (70K 2001 Honda Civic EX coupe with some cosmetic issues, KBB private party ~$9000, wholesale $7-8K). Stared at each other for an hour (love the process) and they came down another $400 off the $24917. Stared at each other for another hour and finally got another $400 for the trade. So in the end:
$26800 OTD (nice 8.25% tax here) - $2000 incentive - $7600 for our Honda with the balance at 0% for two years. Price of car before fees factoring incentive was $24517 - $2000 = $22517.
It's not the $23400 OTD posted earlier in July for my area for an Atlantic Blue with some options but I did get an offer for a white one from the same dealership that the previous poster purchased from (Ron Price in SSF) for about $600 less than where I bought the green one (Santa Cruz). Also got a quote from Carlsen for a Willow Green at about $800 more for the same car but with autodim + homelink + armrest extension (all things I don't really care for).
We factored in the free oil changes for the first 3 years while under warranty (~9*40 = $360) + the 10% off service and parts and had them toss in a full detail at the 7500 mile service and figured it was close enough to a wash to take the color we preferred. Also, other dealers were offering about $1000 less for the trade.
Anyways, in the end it's more than I wanted to pay but right along the lines of TMV according to Edmunds and pretty much average over the 4 dealers in the SF Bay Area I have been talking too for what's left of the 06s.
Some other notes...we did go to Stevens Creek. They were pushing hard for the 07 Basic (stamped steel wheels, no cross bars, no power drivers seat, no heated seats but yes! an auxiliary mp3 input and XM capable) but we wanted the 06 incentives. We wanted the 0% so we could put our cash into high-yield savings. Around here you can get the 07 at invoice minus $750 incentive w/o even trying (~$20000 before TTL) but APR is ~5-7% (and we had 800+ credit scores).
Also it's a relief to not have to deal with selling the Honda private party.
Good luck if you are going out hunting this weekend. Pickings in SF Bay Area are slim but you should still be able to do TMV without too much issue and prolly a lot better if you want a white one. I learned my lesson...bite when the promotion starts when dealer stock is high
Salesman approached and eventually we conveyed we really wanted an Outback with a manual transmission and leather. That always reduces the playing field considerably. They had a used '06 2.5 Limited (not XT) with 22K miles for about $25K. We decided to at least take it for a spin, but were left wanting more (especially after the V50). As he checked his inventory we got a free latte and chai and I noticed an XT Limited in the show room with leather and manual. I brought it to the attention of the salesman and he said he hadn't thought to check the turbos.
Long story short: Sticker on it was just over $32K and we got it for $26000 + dealer fees ($398) + tax (includes the $1500 rebate). Felt pretty good about it since Edmunds FMV is $2K more. We opted for the 0% 2 year loan. Slick car, although I do still feel the Volvo V50 was slightly better all around (when I called to press the Volvo guy he said their lowest was $27,800 - close to tempting, but since they didn't have any finance deals it would have been several thousand more).