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I felt like I got a good deal and the whole process was painless. We agreed to a price, I had to wait for the vehicle to arrive and then my wife and I went to pick it up. For others in Washington State or close to Spokane I would recommend Camp Imports.
I just got a quote from Danvers MA Subaru dealer for 2011 Outback Ltd 2.5L Power MoonRoof , all weather package for 27800, MSRP is 30965/-
is it a good deal?
MSRP was $34,374
Invoice off of USAA/Zag was $32,089
Another dealer I was shopping at pulled up a screen and told me Fitz's dealer invoice was approx $300 lower than the invoice price I had which was interesting.
That dealer actually offered me a better price off of invoice by 0.02% which works out to about $5 better but it wasn't in the color I wanted so I left for Fitz and told them about my deal and they countered. If it was Walmart they could claim the Lowest price, but when you're spending $30k 0.02% obviously isn't a deciding factor.
Fitz actually has a no-haggle policy and they offered a really great price right off the bat with no negotiating of $31,372. They post their "best" price on their website which I really like and part of why I gave them my business was their transparency.
After some negotiating on my part, I ended up with $30,885. (Plus tax of 3%, tags, and a $100 doc fee)
I did agree to purchase their Lifetime Buyer Protection program for $395 which was my final leveraging chip and how I got them budge off of their "final" offer of $31,000. It essentially gives you lifetime oil changes and loaner cars with some other minor things and I figure I'll breakeven in about 4 years. I also took the Subaru financing at 2.9%/60 mos.
I test drove the 2.5 and after spending 11 years in my 99 Infiniti G20, I wanted more power. The 4-cylinder also didn't feel as smooth as the SR20DE in my Infiniti, but I didn't think it was underpowered at all. Especially in city driving. The 3.6 blew me away by it's smooth delivery and power compared to the 2.5 (I made sure I test drove more powerful cars before since my primary frame of reference was 140hp on my old car!) I was tempted by the fuel economy of the 2.5 though...
We cross-shopped with the CX-9, CX-7, XC70, XC60, GLK350, A4 Avant, Murano, and Highlander and really liked the value we felt we were getting from the Outback, not to mention only being required to use regular fuel!
So far loving the car though I missed out the snow storm that wrecked the some nearby areas
http://www.mikescarffsubaru.com/new/Subaru/2011-Subaru-Outback-Auburn-Seattle-e5- aa47cf0a0a006501fe3238bc99655d.htm
TIA
We cross shopped a list similar to yous, except for the Murano and Highlander, crossed them off 7 years ago when we bought our Lexus RX. At the time we were considering changing out the sport ute. Made the Subaru choice for similar reasons too. I do have a close friend that really loves his CX-7 though, but I don't think it rides as well as the Outback.
Congrats
easypar
The BDD - 02 (with all weather pkg) is selling in the NW market between $24.4K - $24.8K
The person in SEA to talk to is JS.
His definitive Subaru site.
http://www.cars101.com/
You can PM me if you need supporting data, but he knows market price point.
2011 Outback 2.5i Premium
CVT
All-weather+Harman-Kardon Audio+Moonroof
Moonroof deflector
Bunch of cargo nets (rear seat-back, rear, rear-side)
MSRP (incld. PZEV & Destination) $30,266
Dealer price: $27,500
Out of door: $30,100
Got the 2.9% APR for 72 months (same for 36-60months). Will probably pay-off sooner.
Dealer was Kearny Mesa Subaru in San Diego. Test drove the cars from them, called around a few places for pricing - they easily matched it. Perhaps I gave in too early, may have gotten another $500 off?
But we are *very* happy with the car and the deal.
Anyone knows if the car comes with a wire for the auxillary input or do we need to buy it?
The cord is not included. If the aux port is a mini connection, a 6' cord generally runs about $7 at an electronics or department store.
:P
Glad you were OK! :shades:
Been there, done that; I know what a Subaru can do!
any idea about how much will be the best offer if i paying cash?
I suspect, if they are open to negotiation now (they weren't last year when I purchased mine), you might be able to get them to agree to $100 - $200 under MSRP. I did purchase a car from them many years ago, before they started their scam, and the best I could get was $700 under MSRP, which was about half way to invoice. At the time, it was much better than I could get in Fairbanks, where I live, and I needed the car in a hurry.
For my last purchase, I bought in Seattle and drove the car back up, saving $2500 in the process (including the cost of the trip).
I have to pay cash if I buy one now as I haven't got my SSN until next month.
I hope this helps someone else.
I thought that paying cash would get better offer as dealers put their money into cars and like to get cash.
I was wrong
Moonroof/backup camera
Media Hub
Remote Starter
Bumper Guard
Splash Guard
All Weather Mats
The dealer gave me an offer of $29360 (before TTL), which is about $250 below the dealer invoice price ($29613, from truecar.com). I think this price is a little bit too high. It shows on truecar.com that there is a dealer 3 hours from me who could provide a price $500 below the invoice, although I've not confirmed with that dealer yet.
Can you guys give me some idea what would be a good price based on my configurations?
Thanks a lot for your time/help.
Alex
I also live in Michigan (Ann Arbor area). I am so glad to see your post, since I am also considering buying a 2011 Limited. So in addition to moonroof, harman Kardon speakers, do you mind letting me know what other packages/accessaries you have chosen, so I can figure out if my offer is fair/good/bad?
I got a quote of $29360 for 2011 Limited with,
Moonroof/backup camera
All Weather Mats
Bumper guard
Splash guards
media hub
Remote starter
I think it is a little bit high. Do you think so?
BTW, do you mind letting me know which dealer you got your car from?
Thanks a lot for your info.
Alex
Paying cash is convenient & reduces paperwork but does not necessarily benefit the dealer.
An informed buyer can buy a unit at true dealer cost....if you finance with a dealership you will lose all that advantage and some, by paying dearly for finance.
I never disclose a payment method until after a purchase price has been agreed. They will resist you all day long on that, but you are the buyer and you have feet to walk away.
The only people who should consider dealer finance are those without options.
Get your loan before you go. If the dealer can offer better, then there is a case for taking their finance. Typically you will only beat your Credit union or Bank if there is manufacturer supported finance....like Subaru 1.9%
Its not really 1.9%. The rate is bought down by SOA finance arm and
and it is typically tied to cap cost.
i.e. You need to pay above a price threshold for the car, to qualify for that finance.
They don't lose money on either financing or selling cars, despite what they tell you.
Unfortunately, a market like Alaska is unique, and you will pay more.
CVT
All-weather
AutoDim Mirror/Comp
Rear Cargo Net
Rear Bumper Cover
Tweeter Kit
Wheel locks - alloy wheels
MSRP (incld. Destination) $27,216 (excluding TTL)
Paid: $24,700 (excluding TTL)
Got 1.9% APR for 36 months
Trade-in: $3,200
Tax: $1,777
Tags: $200
This comes to $31,600 but they said they would do it for $31,000
we got our 2.5i Prem with all weather, puddle, dimming homelink mirror, rear bumper cover, mud guards off the lot for $28K ....
The dealer cost is $32,3XX (though there may some regional differences). I've seen people routinely getting below dealer cost in my area. With the extra $600 discount to bring it to $31k, that brings you right around or slightly below dealer cost. I would submit there's another $1000 in play here...
In addition, make sure they're not taking you on your trade-in. Obviously check blue-book etc, but if you can get it appraised by someone like Carmax, that can help give you a better fix of what the market value is.
They can give you a great deal on the car and hose you on the trade-in.
$500 below invoice + TTL
1.5 % finance 36 months
I was surprised to see these numbers. But I had 3 other offers at $1000 below, $500 below and $200 below invoice, so there must be some dealer incentive going on even though I did not see this advertised.
The $1K below wanted $500 locate fee and $400 doc fees. The other dealers had no locate fee up to 200 miles and $200 doc fees.
We bought it at the dealer we will be servicing it as well.
•All-Weather Package & harmon/kardon Audio System
•Auto-Dimming Mirror w/Compass & HomeLink
•Media Hub
•Rear Bumper Cover
•Splash Guards
•harman kardon Audio System
MSRP $28,864
Discount- $2,600
Adjusted Price $26,264 .
Looking at a new OB in CO. Seems like the dealer is discounting these down to invoice. Anyone have a feel for what the bottom dollar might be given the "discount"?
Out the door was 32.000. Is this a good price or did I make a mistake.
Tough to say when it's all lumped together like that, though.
Good luck
easypar
is this a good price?
thanks,
IIRC the MSRP was about $32800-$33200 and I figured a purchase price (before TTL) of $30000 would have been obtainable with some negotiating.
Good luck
easypar
2011 Subaru Outback 2.5i Premium with auto/cvt
(PZEV version mandatory in MA)
packages: all-weather with power moon roof package
MSRP: 28,465
Invoice: 26,979
negotiated price: 25,517
Doc fee of 300
total: 25,817
plus the non-negotiable MA state items were extra: Title fee, Registry fees, Sales tax extra
Since we were both smiling after the negotiations, I got the feeling that there was even more on the table, but I'm happy with this deal.
Negotiate! Negotiate! Negotiate!
What's the verdict???
I bought a 2011 OB 2.5i Premium auto with CVT, with AWP, power moon roof, floor mats/all weather, rear bumper cover and splash guards.
Suggested Retail Price on the sticker was $28443. With lots of time invested in researching prices, I was able to get it for $25,634 (before taxes/fees). Is this a good price?
Also does anyone have any thought about their Gold Plus extended service contract? They offered it to us $1,100 for 7 years. Is this a good price or not needed? We have until Monday to change our mind if we want to get this plan.
Thanks!
? tax & Tags included/ out the door?
not enuf info yet...