2013 and earlier-Subaru Outback Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • carl441carl441 Member Posts: 5
    I would like to see a detail list of the various options for Subaru's Extended Warranty with all the year, mileage and deductible variables. When I call Subaru's 800 number and ask for the details, they tell me to contact the dealer. I don't want to call the dealer and listen to the pitch. I just want the facts ma'am!
    Can someone help me or point me in the right direction?
    When I go to checkbook.org (carbargains.com) they list Roto Subaru Arlington Heights, IL as selling Subaru Warranties at $25 over invoice. I guess that I'd like to know retail and invoice prices on extended warranties. Anyone?.
  • don626don626 Member Posts: 4
    Sooooo I'm getting different opinions here on advertising fee's. Bigfrank said he saw the fee on his invoice which I thought comes from the manufacturer. How can a dealer fudge a fee onto a factory invoice djhalptert? Can anyone else out there let me know if this fee is in fact a real fee from the manufacturer or an added on fee by the Dealer? And yes..we all know that Ernie Boch Jr. makes a few $$ on every Subaru sold in the NE....Like he needs the money!!
  • tiffanystiffanys Member Posts: 7
    Model: Outback 3.6R Limited $29,409

    Transmission: Automatic 5-speed
    Exterior Color: Graphite Gray Metallic
    Interior Color: Off-Black Leather

    Package
    Power Moonroof + Navigation System $2,497

    Accessories:
    Auto-Dim Mirror - HomeLink, Media Hub, 110 Volt Power Outlet, Wheel Arch Molding, Remote Engine Starter (A/T), Illuminated Sill Plates, Trailer Hitch - Outback

    Total price for the car $33,392

    The price does NOT include Lic. fees and Sales tax.
  • harrytddharrytdd Member Posts: 29
    Go to Truecar.com and do your homework. Good luck.
  • tiffanystiffanys Member Posts: 7
    Thanks for the smart-[non-permissible content removed] comment. It was very helpful.
  • harrytddharrytdd Member Posts: 29
    My suggestion of going to the Truecdar.com site and research out a "good deal" at a certified dealer price was not meant to be offensive or "smart-[non-permissible content removed]".With access to the internet, one should be able to select the model and the options, and Truecar.com will spit out a bell curve showing the dealer cost, invoice, and MSRP price, in addition to telling you what is a great, good or over price. In fact, Truecar.com will tell what dealers in your area are selling the car at that price. Hope that is more clarification and help.
  • mxo11mxo11 Member Posts: 27
    I just got a quote for a similar car (just without some of the accessories like the auto-dim mirror with homelink) for $32,912. According to Edmunds, that's less than the TMV. So, it may not be a bad deal...
  • mxo11mxo11 Member Posts: 27
    ...however, just for fun I tried truecar.com and the price came out close to invoice price (according to truecar, a "good price"), but it's still about $1,000 more than what the dealer paid for the car.
  • mxo11mxo11 Member Posts: 27
    Hello!

    Has anybody bought a Subaru Outback using the AAAS discount? What's your experience? How much was the discount? Any fine print to read before buying?

    Thanks!
  • mxo11mxo11 Member Posts: 27
    Hey Thor,

    How did the VIP program work for you? How did you or the dealer determine the discount? Was the discount applied AFTER agreeing on a price? Thanks for your input. Any insight will be greatly appreciated.
  • snowbeltersnowbelter Member Posts: 288
    My wife purchased a Forester two years ago from a dealer we had done business with before and used the AAAS discount..

    I just called the AAAS, gave them my wife's membership number, and within a week she received a certificate to be used at the named dealer within 60 days. She followed the rules and contacted the named individual at the dealership, went in and ordered a Forester equipped the way she wanted it. At that time Foresters were new and there was a 6-8 week wait for one.

    The deal then was invoice minus 2%. I recall even the options were at this price. The dealer showed us the "invoice" price when we ordered the car and when it came in showed us his paperwork which had the invoice price on it.

    No hassle at all. The dealer gets to sell another car and gets something from SOA for this type of sale. If there are any cash incentives when you buy, those are deducted from the price, too.

    Depending on where you live, there may be some dealers from whom you can negotiate an even better price without an AAAS discount.
  • tangytashatangytasha Member Posts: 3
    Hi, I plan to purchase a Subaru Outback 2.5i Limited with PWR Moonroof +Splashguards+Rear bumper cover, in CT. I have got an out-of-door price quote of $30,339. Is this reasonable/good? I tried truecar.com but could not figure out whether it gave the price for the correct model.
    Thanks!!!
  • mxo11mxo11 Member Posts: 27
    If that really includes tax/tags, the price seems reasonable. Supposing that you are paying ~ $1,300 in CT taxes and tags (I don't live there), the price will come down to $29,000, which is about 400 below invoice (and what appears to be cut-off for most dealers I've contacted.
  • harrytddharrytdd Member Posts: 29
    I went through truecar.com with the options you wanted, and came up with a sticker price of 30874, factory invoice of 29300, and dealer cost of 28400. So if you meant an out-the-door price of 30400 included taxes/tags, that would indicate your quoted price is in the truecar.com category of a great price-below invoice and just above dealer cost. Good luck in your quest.
  • tangytashatangytasha Member Posts: 3
    Actually one of the dealers is giving me a quote of $30,000 out-of-door price, today. CT has 6% taxes, which comes to approximately $1800, and $170 DMV. So the cost of the car is $28,030 or even lower (I calculated 6% of 30,000 and not the price of the car). Also this car includes Splash guards and rear bumper cover in the cost/quote. What do you guys think?
  • tangytashatangytasha Member Posts: 3
    You are right. It is far lower than the truecar.com price I received. I contacted one of their certified dealers and gave them my previous quote of $30,339 from another dealer and asked them if they could beat this price with a good margin.
  • harrytddharrytdd Member Posts: 29
    Congrats...you have done your homework in finding the price you want to pay for that Subaru...be sure it's the right color;)
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,728
    edited October 2010
    If your OTD is $30,000 and there is a 6% sales tax with $170 DMV fees, you would be looking at $29,830 for the car plus taxes, so take that and divide by 1.06 to get the price of the car: $28,141 (truncating cents). Taxes work out to $1,689. Unless, of course, you have to pay taxes on the DMV fees, then your car was about ten dollars less. ;)

    Either way, sounds like a great price.
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • hratmsuhratmsu Member Posts: 7
    Just joined the ranks of Outback ownership. I picked up a 2011 Outback premium with AWP/Harmon Karden plus protection package A. $29,322 MSRP for $26,490 out the door. Sales taxes not included. Think I got a really good deal.
  • mxo11mxo11 Member Posts: 27
    Just to clarify: did you get Nav/moonroof (Option 8) too?
  • harrytddharrytdd Member Posts: 29
    If this works out to be a price between dealer cost and factory invoice, it is definitely a great price. We certainly cannot avoid the state taxes or license fees, depending on where we reside. if in the USA. Good luck to you.
  • hratmsuhratmsu Member Posts: 7
    No NAV/Moonroof, just the AWP/HK package, plus the protection package A which is rear bumper cover, allow wheel locks, splash guards, wheel arch moldings and rubber floor mats.
  • mxo11mxo11 Member Posts: 27
    edited October 2010
    Does the sticker/invoice price for the new 2011 Outback 2.5 limited include the side molding kit? I've noticed that it is not shown as an option on Truecar.com (which leads me to believe it's already included in the base price) but it does appear as an accessory on Edmunds. When I asked a dealer to quote me a car with side molding kit, I think this was an extra. Any ideas? Thanks!
  • harrytddharrytdd Member Posts: 29
    Alas, SOA doesn't make it easy ... the side molding kit is an extra and will be available in the Fall of 2010. ..Whether it is an option to be installed by the dealer or the new owner is nebulous, since it is considered an Outback accessory matching the color of the car purchased. Good luck in your quest. :)
  • tomfelixtomfelix Member Posts: 3
    Bought a 2011 Outback Premium yesterday from Morrie's in Minnetonka with the following options for $25,519:
    Auto w/ CVT
    All Weather Package
    Auto-Dim MIrror/Compass/Homelink
    All Weather Floor Mats
    Rear Bumper Cover
    Splash Guards
    The MSRP for this is $27,269; Invoice is $25,505. I checked another dealership for Costco discount and they offered $500 above invoice.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Congrats. :shades:
  • phishfootphishfoot Member Posts: 2
    Curious on some thoughts around the following offer, just received, October 26th 2010:

    Subaru Outback 3.6R Limited w/ Power Moonroof, Navigation, Rear View Camera and Auto Dim Mirror w/ Compass and Home Link. Also includes, All Weather Floor Mats, Rear Bumper Cover, Splash Guards, Puddle Lights.

    MSRP: $35,716

    Purchase Price: $32,436 (listed equip and destination charge included in quote).

    Thoughts?!

    Please feel free to email me directly: phishfoot@gmail.com
  • bergkamp11bergkamp11 Member Posts: 4
    edited November 2010
    Just been offered this by a NJ dealer internet department

    2011 Subaru Outback
    4dr Wagon H4 Auto 2.5i Limited
    * GRAPHITE GRAY METALLIC W/ OFF BLACK INTERIOR
    * PROTECTION PACKAGE 1A -inc: wheel arch moldings, splash guards, rear bumper cover, front/rear all weather mats, wheel lock kit
    * AUTO-DIMMING MIRROR W/COMPASS, HOMELINK
    * MEDIA HUB
    * FLAT BED HOME DELIVERY

    for $28,250 plus tags/taxes.

    Is this a good deal or am I missing something?

    Seems to compare ok to truecar

    Thanks
  • harrytddharrytdd Member Posts: 29
    Any sunroof/rear camera? Mine had those, but no wheel arch moldings and was bought for 27999, plus tax/license. No home delivery..had to drive 25 miles home.
    Good luck to you.
  • skyiceskyice Member Posts: 21
    edited November 2010
    Could you tell me where you bought your OB from? harrytdd. That is much less than my quote. thanks.
  • harrytddharrytdd Member Posts: 29
    Mine was bought from Livermore Subaru in Callifornia. I'd doubt that they will deliver to New Jersey, but good luck in your quest/search.
  • skyiceskyice Member Posts: 21
    Thanks, I am in WA. I don't think any dealer here can offer that price to me.
  • bergkamp11bergkamp11 Member Posts: 4
    harrytd,

    no sunroof/nav.

    Obviously concerned about the steering shimmy issue.

    Would love to get info on % of cars by build date having this problem.

    Does anyone have an idea about that?

    I read Outback sales are still very strong for 2010 despite this.
  • harrytddharrytdd Member Posts: 29
    My OB has moonroof/camera. It does NOT have the factory navigation system. I have close to 3000 miles on the car since purchase on LaborDay weekend....no wheel shimmy/vibrations up to 80 mph. I don't know the build date, but my OB had just arrived that morning before purchase..I picked it up two days later with 2 miles on the odometer.
  • rockrudyrockrudy Member Posts: 1
    Went to the dealership with pricing from Edmunds.com and truecar.com for 2011 2.5 outback PREMIUM (not Limited as is in the title) loaded with package 09. MSRP 29,460; Edmunds Invoice 27,435 and TMV 28,140. I also had truecar.com's offer from a local dealership for 27,607 which was better than TMV. I did not believe that I will get the car for truecar's quote.

    Went to the dealer and realized that PREMIUM package does not have leather seats. So we test drove a LIMITED version with the 04 package (moonroof). Out of a blue, we offered them the price I got from truecar.com (27,607) for PREMIUM loaded package, which was about $1,200 below truecar.com for LIMITED version.

    Offer got denied, but they offered to go $1,000 below INVOICE. Edmunds invoice however did not match their invoice. Difference was about $600, which they claimed $300 is for PZEV emmision required in New England (OK, I'll give them that) and another $300 is for for all New England subaru's due to some regional fee (I was not sure about this, but OK). We counteroffered $1300 below invoice, which they turned down. They claiming they were getting a kickback of $605 x 2 from manufacturer so a total of $1,210. With $1000 below invoice their profit is $210. I insisted on $1300 below invoice, they declined. We walked away. They stopped us and offered $1100 below invoice and we accepted.

    This is the final deal before taxes, motor vehicles and dealer doc fee:

    2011 2.5i Limited Subaru Outback +
    04 package (moonroof with rearview camera etc) +
    hoodprotector +
    rear bumper cover +
    all season matts +
    wheel locks +
    PZEV

    MSRP: $31,272
    Edmunds Invoice: $29,150
    Dealer's Invoice: $29,554
    Edmunds TMV: $29,859


    location: New England

    Final price before taxes, doc fee, and motor vehicle fee: $28,454 ($1100 below their invoice; $696 below Edmunds invoice; $246 below truecar.com offer price, $1,405 below Edmunds TMV value, and $2,818 below MSRP).

    Did I get the best deal out there? I do not know. Could he go lower, or did he really make only $110 off this deal. I do not know. I think I got a good price.

    Interested in your opinion and your experience.
  • ifontaineifontaine Member Posts: 24
    @ RockRudy: That's probably the best deal I've seen posted since I got my '10 2.5 Limited w/ Moonroof for $27,800 pre tax and title a year ago. Nice job!
  • adefinaadefina Member Posts: 9
    I am researching what would be a reasonable deal on a 2010 3.6 premium outback.
    Does anyone know if the manufacturer is offering any special incentives to the dealer on 2010 models, either 2.5 or 3.6? I live in South Florida, in case that makes a difference.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    edited November 2010
    I read Outback sales are still very strong for 2010 despite this.

    Skyrocketin is more like it:

    YTD as of end October: 75,078
    Last year same period: 40,474
    up 85%!

    http://media.subaru.com/index.php?s=43&item=199
  • fishmanortfishmanort Member Posts: 3
    Just bought an Outback Limited 2.5
    Moonroof/backup camera (didn't want but most have it)
    Trailer hitch
    All Weather Mats
    Bumper guard
    Splash guards
    Full tank
    Free 1st oil change

    List $31,406 in CT
    Paid $28,686

    Salesman was great, Dealer is very reliable.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    congrats.
  • njauditornjauditor Member Posts: 1
    Hi,
    I just bought a 2011 Outback Premium 4 cylinder automatic w/ the following options:
    All Weather Package
    Harmon Kardon w/Moonroof
    PZEV
    All Weather Floor Mats
    Auto-Dim Mirror w/Compass & Homelink
    Popular Equipment Group 2A
    Puddle Lights
    Rear Bumper Cover
    Rear Vision Camera
    Splash Guards
    Media Hub
    Trailer Hitch
    Remote Start
    MSRP: $31517
    Paid: $28,876
    about $2,641 off of MSRP compared to the Edmunds MSRP price for teh options. Probably more off list since the dealer said teh remote starter, trailer hitch and media hub would be marked up for labor.

    I bought from a dealer in Southern New Jersey. I used the USAA buying certificate to show the price I was offered from other dealers, and used this to negotiate the price I paid..
  • venka042venka042 Member Posts: 1
    I got my 2011 3.6R Ltd with the following options

    NAV & Power-moonroof package

    Rear bumper cover
    Dimming mirror with homelink
    chrome tailgate trim for

    31,776 before taxes and fees.

    I got it from Elk Grove Subaru near Sacramento.

    MSRP for the car 35,573
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Congrats to both of you. :shades:
  • centralmecentralme Member Posts: 3
    Just bought it in ME 2 days ago and love every minute of it. I'm coming from a 2000 Saab 9-3 and knew I was going to miss the power of the turbo. I was originally looking at the 2.5 in both the CVT and 6-spd and was disappointed in the power loss (would have been the case with any 4 cylinder).

    I wanted to try and find a stripped down 3.6 Premium which would keep me under $30,000, but they simply don't make them without the HK stereo and moonroof. I called my closest Maine dealer to see if they could find one and, instead, they offered the floor model which had the HK/Moonroof option, tailgate cover, and all-weather mats. The sticker was $32,970 and they offered $29,970. The Truecar is below:

    $32,970 MSRP
    $31,800 Avg Pd.
    $30,930 Invoice
    $29,960 Dealer Cost

    Sooooo, I thought this was a screaming deal and a no brainer. Yes, the tax and doc fees clearly put me over the $30,000 threshold, but my wife said "go for it"! WIth the 1.9% for 3 years, it worked out to be $430 a month. We really wanted the "under $400" payment, but the 3.6 has the balls I wanted and so far, a great joy to drive.

    Oh, the "shakes" had me concerned and they are there - albeit very slightly, however, my Saab was plagued with it for years, so no big deal and I would have never noticed it if I never did the research.

    Please let me know if you have any questions.
  • car4markcar4mark Member Posts: 1
    Getting ready to buy the above vehicle. Only interested in mud flaps and rear bumper cover and possibly fog lights.

    Here is the quote I am getting
    2011 Outback std. model CVT automatic $23076

    Accessories would be extra
    Rear Bumper Cover $83.95
    Fog Lights $445.00
    Corner Bumper Pads $81.00

    Is this a good deal? I think they are high on the accessories. Also, are the prices everyone is quoting on the accessories, the installed price? Thanks for your help
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,728
    At those prices, they must be with installation. The MSRP on the bumper corner protectors are $60 if I recall correctly. I bought a set of these for my Forester and they really are great, especially for those pesky parking lot shopping carts!
    2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
  • ljt064ljt064 Member Posts: 1
    Where abouts in NE? I'm close to pulling the trigger. I'm thinking of the 3.6 though.
  • paopao Member Posts: 1,867
    Ruby Red
    CVT
    PZEV
    All Weather Package (Heated Seats/mirrors/wipers)
    Option Pkg 6 (Puddle Lights/Mud Guards/Rear Bumper Cover)
    Moonroof
    Floor Mats
    Full tank of gas
    MSRP was 28,945

    Drove off the lot for 28,500 including tax (6%), title, tags, processing fee ($100)
  • manutdmanutd Member Posts: 14
    Just agreed to a 2011 Subaru Outback 2.5i Limited w/Power Moonroof/Nav in Louisiana.

    Also had:
    Weather Floor Mats
    Alloy Wheel Lock Kit
    Popular Equipment Group 2A
    Puddle Lights
    Rear Bumper Cover
    Splash Guards

    Sticker including the PZEV $300 was $33,067. Bought for 30,813. Got 1.9% as well.
    This was $2,254 below sticker and $200 over the dealer's invoice.

    Edmund's MSRP was the same as sticker, and Edmund had invoice at $30,613, same as dealer showed. TMV was $30,970. TrueCar had sticker about the same (with PZEV included) and great price at $30,993.

    I think this was OK at $30,813. The dealer is very close to my work and there are not many dealers near here so it seemed a reasonable deal.
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