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- Larry
In post #75 you said:
"(only paying 5.74% on my truck loan)"
I'm in Texas. Where do I get a loan like that?
Thanks,
Al
My new Silverado is Med. Gray with the Graphite and I have found it really easy to keep clean. And yes, the graphite is a muli-colored cloth.
Went in to the dealer last Friday and told them that my rear driver side quarter panel window "whistled" at freeway speeds only with the air on recirculation. It must have created cabin pressure of some sort. Anyways, the Service Manager said he would replace the whole unit and didn't even take it for a test drive...said they have replaced "quite a few of them lately"! Evidently the factory has a better seal design available now? The Sales Manager even bought me a tank of gas to compensate my time for having to bring it back so soon...just purchased it there two weeks ago. I am really impressed with this dealership, and I only paid $200.00 over invoice!
Anyone looking for a real quality Chevy Dealer in Missouri, let me know.
still wearing a bow-tie
dave
dave
As for a heavy rain, the cover has three wide aluminum cross members. These support the cover and keep it taught. Someone told me that the cover can support the weight of a person with these rails. Also the rails are adjustable so that you can have them raised higher or lower to change the look of the cover. The snaps are also changable so that you can modify how much tension is on the cover. In the summer you set them for tighter (because the cover stretches in the sun) and looser in the winter (the cover shrinks in the cold). Travelling 65mph on the highway you will see a little flutter in the cover but I think it is normal. If I go an buy something that will not fit into the bed with the cover on, the cover can be rolled up and secured at the back of the cab with velcro fastners that Extang sews on.
I have looked at many different covers and liked this one because it did not require butchering the truck with a saw and drill. I think ExTang has another type of cover that does not have any snaps and uses some sort of seal. This one looked interesting.
One thing to remember, nothing is secure in the bed when you use a tonneau cover. The most important thing though is to keep items out of sight. If they cannot see what they want they often leave you alone. Someone looking for something to steal will not take the time to pop the cover just for a look and find nothing.
My truck does not have a bed liner. I have a rubber mat that sits on the bottom. My past truck, way back when was a 1984 Toyota SR5 4x4 and it had a bed liner. One day after putting a full Downey off road suspension and roll bar, I removed the bed liner only to find the bed was rusting away. It was problably attributed to the liner, the truck material and the weather. I removed the liner, fixed the rusted spots, wiped the bed floor with motor oil and inserted a rubber mat. Never had a problem after that.
Prices go up every year...not just with HP increases...which also creep up year to year..
- Tim
Kevin
You can probably get more than 395 hp fairly quickly. The only limitation is how much the other drivetrain parts can withstand, i.e. tranny, and diff. and how much you are willing to spend on it.
Its not worth the money to me. Like my 1/2 ton 5.3l just fine.
Does anyone know whether the regular cab MSRP will be effected with the new standard 4th door on the extended cab?
Has anyone put a Whipple charger (or any other means of forced induction) on their Silverado yet?
rwagoner
Yes the metal and the moisture trapped in the bed liner contributed to the rust. Adding the mat worked great. I bought the truck new in 1984 and added the Downey lift and quad shock suspension. It also had truss bars for both axels. It rode like a brick. I was young, you learn. It was a nice project for at the time. The little 22R motor could not get out of its way though. I sold the truck in 1989 to some kid for $7k for a down payment on a 1989 full size GMC Jimmy. The 5.7l engine was nice. However hit the brakes hard and watch the back end pass you.
dollars away from buying a Z71 Ext. cab 2000
Silverado. This truck was beautiful, white with
black wheel flares and graphite interior. The truck
is loaded with a MSRP of $31874. I had a copy of a
printout with the same MSRP and options and I knew
what the invoice was. The dealer looked at it and
agreed. Now here's the rub. The truck had 285 miles
on it when I test drove it. It was a dealer trade.
I offered 100 over invoice and mentioned that the
truck had nearly 300 miles on it. The lowest they
would go is $800 over invoice. This is after I
offered $600 over invoice as my final offer. What
do you think, was I wise to walk away from a truck
with nearly 300 miles on it for $800 over invoice?
Uspsa - 300 miles does not sound like alot, but it always pays to compare to another dealer in the area. Maybe $800 over is a good deal in your area...
-scott
Thanks,
Ryan
Personally, I think $800 is WAY too high. Not because of the mileage, just because that's way too high for a new truck. I would bet that after you had agreed to that the dealer would have tacked on an advertising fee, dealer prep, and paperwork fees. You shouldn't be paying more than $200 or $300 over invoice. I actually ordered mine at invoice - the dealer was hungry. I'd wait a few days to see if the dealer calls you back with a better deal. If not, drop by again but don't go more than $300 over invoice. Also, make sure you find out up front what all the additional fees the dealer is going to add on are.
Of course, I'm in Colorado and it might be different where you are, but there are enough trucks being delivered now that the dealers are becoming more willing to deal.
John
jmscolorado - good advice. I like the truck, however, there are about $800 worth of extras I could do without. I will wait a few days and stop by and talk with them again. If they will come down a couple hundred I would buy it.
There is another dealership north of town who told me he would sell any of his Z71's at $100 over invoice. I'll believe it when I see it. He is Faxing me the MSRP (invoice?) printouts this afternoon for several trucks that I will compare with Edmunds and InvoiceDealer.com.
mtrammell - thanks for the info
Why? There are a TOTAL of about 30 Silverados in ALL of the dealers in my area (within 45 minutes driving time). The dealers figure: why sell to you cheap? They'll get MSRP or close with someone else. Unless you're a LONGTIME customer with a dealer, you're SOL.
So be careful when you say that "$800 is way too high." Around here, you won't even get that.
Richard
LandMark Chevrolet - should be called Landshark They had additional dealer markup of $2,000 on top of MSRP.
Courtesy Chevrolet - Would not even order the truck I wanted - had one coming in but wanted close to MSRP. I bought a Tahoe from them in 12/97 and got a $4,000 discount plus $2,000 more for my trade than anyone else would give me. I told the salesman I wanted the same discount - no deal..I heard the salesmanager say if we give him the price he wants we only make $1,000 bucks- tell him to get lost.
Charlie Thomas- Would not accept Edmunds information as fact. I knew more about the truck than salesman and manager combined. They were sure that I could not order a locking differential with the LT package, that if I wanted leather it would be a dealer installed option and would add $1,500 to the price etc. I gave them the order code of the locker and explained that leather was standard on the LT. They do have a good service department, I use them for that.
Les Marks in Laporte (I found them by using AUTOBUYTEL over the internet, I was surprised when I got a fax from them with a no hassle price of $500 over invoice which was $28,200,I had them order it that day. When truck came in they had calculated the price wrong and GM had taken a price increase- I thought [non-permissible content removed] I am screwed. The salesman told me he could sell the truck for thousands more than the price he had quoted, but he said that is not the way they do business. He had talked to the owner and they would keep the original price. It ended up $296 under invoice. I know with holdback they still made $$ but, they knew I had waited for 8 weeks for this truck, there were no other LT 4x4's in town, I had sold my truck the week before and was without a truck. They had me by the ----'s. The fact that they kept the original price still surprises me. The salesman's name is Jerry Champaine. Laporte is only about 20 miles from downtown Houston. The short drive was worth it for me..
Anyway, I figure if anyone will know it'll be someone on this great site! I ordered the cell phone provision as unfortunately I am on the road with a phone a lot. Trouble is, I can't find where it hook-ups or wiring is. Supposedly it's suppose to facilitate hooking up the phone and microphone/speaker. No one at the dealer had even known this option existed, however, I ordered it and it came on the window sticker as being installed. Muchly appreciate anyone that can shed some light on the feature and how its should work.
Thanks in advance!
Mark
Take it now!
- Tim
And another thing...what is Tundras "class" that it is best of? What exactly is it compared with?
LOL
- Tim
Yes, I paid the advertising fee. I had done enough research to know to expect it. (It caught me by surprise a few years ago when I bought my wife's Camry - almost walked out on the deal.) It does show up on the dealer's invoice as a charge he must pay (regional advertising) on each vehicle, so even though "everythings negotiable", I knew that if I was bargaining from invoice (Edmunds), I would have to pay it. I also paid a small 'paperwork fee' - don't remember exactly what they called it but it was around $100. Even with both those charges, I think I got a pretty good deal. If you are forcing them to get pretty close to actual invoice, you should expect to see those charges show up. You just have to work to keep them to a minimum and to keep them from hitting you with "dealer prep", undercoating, and all the other dealer big profit items.
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Up until 5 years ago I lived in Houston (Clear Lake City) and agree with z71bill's comments, especially concerning Landmark Chev. Never liked the way they tried to jerk me around.
Bought my 91 C1500 at Charlie Thomas but had to fight them on the extended warrentee - Bought the GM Plan and they tried to give me some other plan.
Got them to fix it when I threatened to go to Chev about it.
John
Kyle
-powerisfun