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How long have you had it and how do you like it?
In any event, the best your dealer can do for you is to get the order price protected by the factory (or agree to eat any increase, but that's not going to happen).
As to your other question, get your hands on the factory invoice. You can get a pretty good ballpark on your inovice price by using tools here on Edmunds.com or on cars.com. Those numbers aren't perfect, since they don't include advertising fees, etc., but they'll get you to a point where you'll be able to tell if the dealer is pulling a fast one. Also, realize that Audi has no holdback--so the dealer is only making $1000 on your sale, and that's pretty darn good.
Just went into an Audi dealer today to look at an A6 4.2. They will not budge off MSRP. Would you please share what area you live in and what dealer you ultimately chose to go with?
For $4000 off, I'd buy an airline ticket, fly to the city where your dealer is at, and pay for it to be transported and still end up with a substantial discount off MSRP.
When you get the chance, please reply...and thanks a lot for sharing your experience.
Happy Holidays!
OrthoAce
I ordered the car through Huntington Audi, which is located in Huntington, New York.
Good luck.
Kevin
Thanks!
I think I will be heading to an S4 for $670 per month. Better deal overall
One thing, though. The MMI system is MUCH easier to use and learn than I-drive. I drive a 530i, a family member has an '04 A8. MMI is easier and not as intrusive.
Also, for the east coast, how much off of MSRP are buyers getting for their new A6's?
At 59.2K, your 4.2 V8 should have almost every available option.
Where I live in the mid-south, you'll get laughed out of a dealership expecting to get that kind of discount on the 4.2.
Congrats on a great deal.
As far as the price, I know it is a great deal. I read about this car-buying technique in a book a few years ago. I went for a test ride at the dealership closest to my house and got a price quote of about $1,000 below MSRP. I then obtained prices from 3 or 4 car buying services on the internet (the lowest being about $2,000 below MSRP). I then faxed a detailed letter to every Audi dealer within 100 miles of my house except the one where I test drove the car (living in the NY metro area there are about 25 dealers). In the letter I described the exact car, with each option, that I wanted to purchase and the price that I had been quoted. I advised in the letter that I was sending the letter to all of the dealers in the NY metro area and asked them to give me their best price by return facsimile. This letter forced the dealers to participate in a blind auction and put the price in writing. This resulted in about 12 dealers responding and the lowest price dropping to about $3,000 below MSRP. I then repeated the letter process with all 25 dealers. This brought the lowest price down to $3,900 below MSRP. I then walked into the dealership where I test drove the car with a stack of signed letters from the other dealers agreeing to sell me the car for up to $3,900 off MSRP. I gave her a copy of the letters from the 2 dealers that agreed to $3,900 off MSRP. I told the saleswoman that if she matched the price that I would sign a sales agreement immediately. If she could not sell me the car for that price, then I was driving the 20 miles to the other dealership and would be buying the car from that dealer. She spoke to her manager and told me that she could not believe the deal that I was getting but that her manager agreed to match the price. She then wrote up the sales agreement that was signed by me and the office manager.
I have purchased my last couple of cars this way and it has resulted in some pretty incredible prices. The best part is that it only takes about an hour of your time and you end up buying the car at your local dealer. Good luck.
Terry.
It's not worth it to most dealers to sell an 05 4.2 that cheap. And obvioulsy to the salesperson as well. To spend all that time explaining navigation systems & such and doing a full demo to a customer on a high end car like that and make no money ain't fun.
I'd never waste my time on you and tell you to go buy a car from somebody else.
I'm glad I don't live and sell cars in NY.
Enjoy the 4.2 when it comes in. You'll love it. It's an incredible car.
Also, it wasn't certified but the dealership said that they would certify it for an extra $1500, no idea why it was 1500. I decided to pay, so the final price was $39,000+ tax. The in-service date was mid August '04, so I have 3.5 years and 45,000 under the factory warranty, and an extra 2 years 50,000 with the CPO. When I picked the car up, I received no cerification paperwork, no carfax report, and my final invoice reflects a car price of $39,000. I called and said that I want proof of certification and they said no problem. However, I feel like I was just scammed $1500, b/c I doubt that a full 300- point inspection was performed on a practically brand-new car. I am very interested in comments and suggestions.
Your CPO is attached to your VIN number, so any Audi dealer can pull up your cars info and verify that it has the 6/100 warranty.
I'd ask your salesperson for the official certificate that your car was certified. The Service manager also has to sign off on the certificate as well. That paperwork is more of a formality for you to have than anything else, but it's nice to have it in your posession.
A lot of cars may be "pre-certified" by Audi dealers. That means that the cars have already gone under a 300 point inspection and are offically ready to be certified. But some customers don't want to pay the $1500-$2000 extra for the 6/100k warranty.
When a car is officially certified, the dealer has to send Audi X amount of dollars to help defray the costs of future warranty work. So they may wait until the customer agrees to pay the extra amount before they have offical certification paperwork for a customer.
I think you got a pretty good deal @ 37.5 for your S Line A6.
Your probably right, did you run a history on it.? .. a trip around the block, an oil change, a quick look on the lift and maybe a tire rotation - and Wango Tango ~ you have "certified" .......
"Certified" doesn't guarantee anything, except the warranty ...... is it a good deal.? It's kinda too late now, your an owner .. dealer probably paid the the tall $31's, low $32's for it, add a this and that, add the CPO and it probably hit the table in the mid $33's ..... $39,0..? that was ALL the money and then some, $36,5/$37,0 would have just about killed it ...
Terry.
Terry.
2005 Audi A6 4.2
Black w/ Amaretto interior
Sport suspension
Sport seats
18" wheel/tire combo
Advanced Key
Bose w/ Sirius
Navigation
Cold Weather package
Tire Pressure monitor
Power/manual rear shades
I was ordering out of state for $1K over invoice or exactly $55,500 out the door. Two days before I put down the deposit (for the second time, loooong story) I went to check out a new Mustang GT. End of story, I took one right off the showroom floor. However, I still have my eyes on that A6 4.2, but that new Chrysler 300C SRT-8 is really getting my attention! Might just end up with two new rides in the garage!
But thanks for asking.
thanks
So to the consumer who faxed all the letters to all the dealers. That is a little extreme. Evidently it works for you. What i recommend to my friends and family. If you are going to buy, do your research (go edmunds) know your max investment before you walk in the door. Know your credit situation, and buy a car from who treats you the best, offers the best service, and a place you dont mind having a relationship with for the next 4-5 years. It really isnt that difficult to buy a car.
This is a free country and if people want to email 25 dealers to get prices, that's their right. But I find that the chances of someone buying a car from me when I quote them a price over the phone is slim to none. They have no respect for people's time or professionalism & they usually have a bad attitude as well.
Earlier in this post, there was a comment made in a forum featuring the Audi executive who at one point compared the new A6 to the new RL. He said that the A6 is $10,000 less than the RL. That's very inaccurate. The RL comes fully loaded at MSRP of $49K. The A6, comparably equipped, has an MSRP of at least $49K. The margin on the RL is something like $5500. Well-equipped versions of the 2006 Infiniti M35, 2006 Lexus GS300, etc. can be had for $42K to $47K, with comparably comfortable margins. Perhaps at retail, the A6 is just overpriced?
People have commented about lease rates being better on the BMW. That's true. But BMW is having to subsidize sales on the 5 series which has never really caught on with BMW loyalists. And the A6 has only been in the market for 5 months. The lease rates will get better on the A6 as time goes on.
M45 pricing is not cheap and about the same as the A6. An AWD M45 V8 is in the high 50's. Same as the A6 4.2 Quattro.
The RL is a nice car. But it doesn't have much presence for a 50k car and looks too much like a Honda. It's also smallish on the interior.
I think the pricing is good on the 05 A6. Even the old body style cars loaded up were mid 40's and there was no NAV offered.
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A new car is a commodity. My 2005 A6 4.2 is the same car regardless of where I purchased it. If the service department becomes a problem, then I will get my car serviced elsewhere.
M35x (awd), fully loaded:
INVOICE: $48,797
MSRP & TMV: $53,710
I live in NY but still, $4,913/10% profit is STEEP. Though you might have a point with the Audis...although much more of one with BMW:
A6 3.2, fully loaded:
INVOICE: $50,301
TMV: $53,497
Still over 6% profit. Whichever one I get I'll almost definitely get out of state (MA, CT, NJ), though I don't know if it will make much difference with the Infiniti.
And this relates to A6 prices paid & buying how?
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The 4.2, as described above, is showing up as $58,970 by me, BEFORE 8.75% NYS tax, making the out-the-door price $64,129.
Please let me know, b/c I am having a hard time believing it. I would GREATLY appreciate it.
THANKS.
Congrats on the car. Hope you enjoy it!
1. What online car-buying services did you use?
2. What was the name of the book you read?
I'm trying to decide between the M35x and the A6 3.2, but if I can get a comparable deal to what you worked out for the 4.2, I'll take it. I went to the Audi by my home with my girlfriend to get her opinion and my salesman wasn't in. I wanted to test drive it, so they sent me out with a 23yr old kid from the accounting office. With no vested interest in selling me the car, he told me that my best bet was to check out specific dealerships in NJ, CT, and MA, where he knew for a fact that dealerships were selling both the 3.2 and 4.2 for $500-$1,000 over invoice (pretty much the deal you got in NY by working for it.)
It sounds like you made out like a bandit...the sales manager must have been REAL happy to give you that car for that price
One more question: Did you purchase it outright or did you finance some? If you financed; did you go through Audi, if so, how was it? (I heard they were throwing out some 2.9% rates.)
Any feedback is appreciated...you are a master shopper.
I got the idea from a book called "The Millionaire Next Store".
Because of the subsequent price increase, the delaer claims that he paid more for the car than I did. So he was "real" happy with me.
I paid cash for the car. I did not have any discussions regarding financing.