2013 and Earlier - Audi A6 Prices Paid and Buying Experience

rayman31

I bought a 2001 A6 in July 2001. I paid $0 down and leased it for $499/month for 48 months... 10,000 miles annually allowed.

In looking to replace this car (as July 2005 is quickly coming up) - I have found NO viable alternatives... What is going on? What happened to the $0 down leases? What happened to a car for $500/month???

I am really having a difficult time with this - what can ANYONE recommend?

I don't want to step down - but stay lateral... (BMW 5, Benz E, etc....)

Rayman!

rjlaero

Lease rates in general have gone up over the last several years. A lot of leasing companies lost a ton of money on low lease payments for cars that were set up with unrealistic high residuals. When these cars go back to auction, they didn't get their money back out of the cars.

As for the A6, good deals were to be had on last years 04 body style beacause the 05's were coming out with a totally new look.

The lease rates seem to be coming down on the A6.
People have been complaining that Audi is not competitive with the BMW 5 series in terms of lease payments. On Audi's website for Atlanta dealers, you can lease a $47k Quattro 05 A6 for $599mo/36 mo w/ about $2500 total down. I think that's pretty competitive with what BMW is doing right now.

penn2

Hello

From mid-Altantic region, Philly to be specific -
Was offered 36 mos. 12K mi lease of $697/mo (MF of .00189),with Premium and Cold Weather. Was told that it was based on a sell price of $45K(list being $46,520 incl dest. charge - invoice being $43,026 incl. dest. charge)

Sound reasonable? Or, room to negotiate?

thank you for any insight/experience that can be provided !

rjlaero

Was that w/ 0 down for 697/mo?

penn2

Yes - nothing down...

penn2

I am in the market for the 05 3.2(or 3.1) - would think invoice + 5% would be fair(and taking into consideration TMV) but, best I've been able to do here in the mid-atlantic region is $500-750 off MSRP ...or, in another case, $1500 off(with lease) but, high MF, well above Audi Fin Srvcs' base lease rate of .00132

What have other 05 3.2 buyers succeeded with?

kgary

I picked up my 4.2 last week for $900 over dealer cost. I live in NY.

halofan

Hi All -
I am interested in ordering an
05 3.2 with a color combination not located in So. California. The dealer I'm working with wants a 10% deposit to "hold" the vehicle. I think this is a little much seeing is dealers often are alotted cars from the factory. As a matter of fact, I think I read somewhere on this site that you really shouldn't have to put much down at all because of a dealers normal ordering process. The color combo isn't all that wacky, black and platinum, but I just wanted some certain options, premium, convenience, sport packages. Can anyone comment on this?

kgary

I had to special order my 4.2; wanted the solar sunroof, as well as virtually every other option. My deposit was $1,000.

Kevin

rjlaero

10% is a bit much, but if you're going to buy the car anyway, what does it matter? You're going to give the dealer the other 90% your money sooner or later anyway.

Some dealers may have been burned by customers backing out on high-end cars and don't want to get stuck with a car with too many options that may be hard to sell beacause of the price-point.

But many states have laws that make it illegal for a dealer to keep your deposit anyway if you back out.

halofan

That's a good point, I just thought it seemed a little excessive. Having never ordered a new car, always buying from existing stock, I just hope the dealer is open to negotiation just as much.

carshopper10

Can anyone tell me if this is a good deal? (I'm in PA) includes convenience, cold weather and premium pkg. I'm coming out of a 2000 A6 2.7T Quattro that was nothing but trouble -- unless this is a great deal I'm considering moving to another brand. Anyone know if the 2005 A6 is supposed to have better reliability? I know the A4 is now recommended by Consumer reports.

penn2

Carshopper 10

Are you leasing or buying? what rates are they offering?
I am in PA too -southeastern(ie Phl) for same options(except conven.) - based on what I have found ... anything ranging from 45K (but, with less than desirable lease factor)or @ 45.9K for better lease deal. If you find a car that is pre-Feb 15 delivered to states/dealers, it will have MSRP of $1000 less...they upped it due to Euro vs dollar exchanges...there are still some out there
So with not knowing your financing arrangement, I'd say your deal(based on a MSRP of 47.5K, invoice of 43.9 and TMV of @ 45.8K) is within the "good deal" range...and a lot has changed on A6 reliability over the past 4 - 5 yrs
good luck

liferules

What features does it have? Cold? Convenience? Sport? etc... We can only speculate on the reliability, but the higher powers that be in AOA have been purportedly emphasizing reliability on the new A6.

halofan

It doesn't matter now anyway, I just picked up my 05 3.2 and paid 1250 over invoice which I thought was a pretty good deal for this area. It was about 650 down from a Carsdirect.com quote and probably 1000 less than the TMV on this site. I'm really excited about the car...Having traded in a Mercedes ML320 Alabama SUV...I am very impressed with the amount of equipment for the money with Audi.

My deal:

3.2 Night Blue w/ Ebony
Prem. pkg
Conv. pkg
Nav.
18" wheels

MSRP $50270
My price: $ 48,200

McKenna Audi, VW in Norwalk, CA

penn2

halofan -

congrats on your deal & new car --

For those that are still in the hunt, here's what appears to be the deal(in S.E. PA) that I am close to signing

3.2 night blue
prem leather-amaretto
prem pkg
cold wthr
18" wheels

MSRP: $47,520 (a car found on lot without post-Feb 15 mark-up)
Current offer on table: $44,700

Note - will be leasing; MF on this deal is current AFS base lease rate for A6 of .00129

Neglected to add that this "new" A6 has @ 1,300 miles on it, from being used in marketing campaign -

halofan

I forgot to add prem. leather as well...I was thinking WOW, what a deal you are gettng until 1. I realized that I forgot to add the leather and 2. Your car has 1,300 miles on it.

penn2

Yes, good point, halofan - re #2...your comment(s) not lost on me...

the 1300 miles is the only thing that has kept me from signing...other attractive (no mileage) A6 3.2 alternative is $45.9K with a lesser option package:
Prem.(standard leather)
cold wthr
17" wheels
convenience
Sirius radio

Did not really push them(yet) to come off that number, as it's pretty good at $1,700 over invoice(again, badged at pre Feb 15 lower price) but still too much...not to mention, don't like the color
So, am seeing what my hesitation and fast-approaching end of month will do to motivate dealer ... but, as it is, they're on top of invoice and offering lowest available MF(as they should for this mileage) that you can get currently via AFS...
Not sure what else they can/will do and frankly, I'm only leasing, not buying so, if push comes to shove, the mileage doesn't really matter to me to get car basically at cost

halofan

I wouldn't woory about either if you are leasing...As far as a purchase, I'm a little anal retentive when it comes to mileage others have put on cars. I was lucky to get this car literally "still in the plastic", I now how most people drive on test drives and I was leary of getting a car with even 100 miles...

taitando

Hi everyone,

I just wanted to get some opinions on a reasonable offer to make to a dealer. I'm interested in an '04 A6 S-line (Tiptronic) that has the following packages:
Premium, Luxury, Cold Weather, Lighting, Onstar, Bose, 18" wheels & tires, & Sport seats. The car was a demo and has 14670 miles on it with a price of $39,750.

My zip is 95670 and Edmunds has the following values: $36,255(Trade) $38,051(Private sale) $41,440(Dealer).

Kelly Bluebook values are $30,050(Trade) $34,880(Private sale) $39,940(Dealer)

There is a big difference between Edmunds and KBB. Should my base offer to the dealer be $37K? Perhaps lower?

rjlaero

I think Edmunds has always been on the high-side of everthing. I think KBB is a pretty good guide and a bit more accurate for real-world trade figures and such.

liferules

14,000 miles in for demo seems a lot. That just about the same of someone owning the car for a year. Seems a little high for just occas. cruises for potential buyers. I'd ask for more information. It may have been used as a loaner, thus accruing more rough riding...

Hopefully not. Good luck. BTW, I agree with the KBB comment. It seems more "real world" to me.

richcream

2004 tester with 14,000 miles? I think not. Even if it was an early model and came out 6 months into 2003, that would mean that during a 545 day span (1.5yrs) the car was driven over 25 miles EVERY day.

Sounds more like it may have been the tester, loaner, and the guys-from-the-shop-go-to-lunch-in-it car. Now, if the salesman tells you that an employee used it as a back and forth to work car for a year or so, that would be more believable, but telling you it was a demo sounds suspect (to me.)

I think the scariest thing here is the depreciation...what was the sticker on that car in '04 when it hit the showroom?

taitando

The car originally stickered for $49,720.00. And they now have it stickered at $39,750.00. So we are looking at about 20% depreciation within 1 year? Yeah, there's no way I'm paying what they want by any means, and the appraisal from edmunds still seems far fetched. Most of the A6's with similar miles seem to be going for $34k on ebay, but they are not the S-line editions.

richcream

What are the anticipated depreciation rates by year for the new A6? Anyone have an idea?
Or what they will be for the M35x for that matter?

wynston

The car has less than 5K miles on it. Pearl Black, Cold, Prem, Tip, Automatic, Certi. Pre-Owned Warranty. The dealer is asking 42,997 for it. High I know!
here is the link for more info
http://www.sunsetimports.com/poselectopt.php?&stock=P3611
How can I find out the original invoice for the car?
Based on the used car factor and 4700 miles on it what is good offer to make?
If it were you, what would you do? Offer? Buy new?

Thank you for any advice you can give me!

Kirstie_H

If the car has already been owned, then you probably cannot find the original invoice for that particular vehicle - plus, it's not really relevant. Once a car has been owned, you're looking at a USED vehicle, not a new one. We list pricing for the 2004 Allroad, but not yet for 2005.

Often, you can't get enough of a discount for the mileage to make it worth buying. If you come to a target price you'd be willing to pay for an '05 with no miles, then use the standard per-mile charge used for leasing ($0.15/mile) and multiply it by the number of miles on the vehicle ($705), you can negotiate based on that discount amount. However, as you can see, $705 is not a lot to take off the price - personally, I'd rather buy a vehicle with almost no miles and have the full warranty left.

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wynston

Kirstie...
This car has the remainer of the factory warranty plus Audi's CPO warranty for 100K miles/6years.

Guess my gut is just telling me that there could be something wrong with the car since the guy bought it and drove 4700 miles in 6 months and sold it back to the dealer.

I don't know...guess I'll offer 40,500 and see what happens.

It is great when you don't "have/need" to buy a car. Just a want thing here.

Kirstie_H

Well that's a terrific situation, then. People trade in for all sorts of reason - maybe it was a lease and the guy couldn't afford the payments, or he got a job where a car was included - no way to tell. But I would have a mechanice inspect it and pull a carfax report, just in case.

That's a good strategy - offer what you're willing to pay, and no more. You don't have to have it, and there's no such thing as "the one, true car" for you (it's not a spouse), so if you pass, another one will come along.

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yac

Could use any recent experience and pricing on leasing a 2005 A6 3.2. Need current money factor, for 36 months, 12000 miles having prem pkg, Conv pkg, cold weather pkg with 17" wheels. Not interested in Navigation or other add-ons. Have read that these autos are starting to back up at dealers, and that better deals are now avail. An up front thx to all who reply----.