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Since there is NO DIFFERENCE between the vehicles that (for example) GM sellts in the the US and those in Canada except for the owners' manual and the window stickers, how can they in good faith state that they are not certain their '08 models meet the immobiliser standard or not.
That is tantamount to a baldfaced lie and if the APA or someone can't get the government doesn't fix this mess, then perhaps my lawyer would be willing to undertake a massice class action lawsuit against those who play this stupid game.
This might be the source to determine if there's a difference in the immobilizers. I am neither a tech wizard, nor do I have a US address. But perhaps we can get someone to help us out and look at the immobilizer data for all 2008 Toyotas and publish here.
This is a link to an official Toyota technical information site. The cost to subscribe is $10 per day, $50 per month or $350 per year. I will happily offer up to pay for a one month subscription for the beneift of everyone if we can get someone to do the digging!
www.techinfo.toyota.com
Let's hope this provides some answers!!
Thanks
I'm in.
Maluna
It reads:
"Dear Importer, this letter is to confirm our phone conversation during which you were advised that a 2008 U.S. market SUV, minivan or truck purchased prior to the date of November 1, 2007 would be admissible through the Registrar of Imported Vehicles program".
"Admissibility of such a vehicle that may now be listed as inadmissible into Canada is granted under a one time amnesty".
Good luck everyone...I picking up my 2008 Tacoma this weekend
thanks
It reads:
"Dear Importer, this letter is to confirm our phone conversation during which you were advised that a 2008 U.S. market SUV, minivan or truck purchased prior to the date of November 1, 2007 would be admissible through the Registrar of Imported Vehicles program".
"Admissibility of such a vehicle that may now be listed as inadmissible into Canada is granted under a one time amnesty".
http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/story.html?id=25c96de8-4d39-446f-a3ad-7cdf- c65d7e46&k=49755
Hey the article in the Montreal Gazette is very good. I just sent them a copy of my letter of November 6, to Minister Cannon. Several of my family memebrs are also writting to Cannon and one has writtent of Hargrove because he is certainly not in favour of this type of illiegal practices that the companies are using. And I maybe have printed a complete list dated before Nov. 1, the Prius was not admissible and was not inadmissable. There was no mention of 2008 Toyota/Lexus. I will also send a copy to the CAA. They are there to help automobilists.
Anybody lucky enough to get a one time amnesty on a car please advise us. The Montreal article seemed to say that they may do this for the Honda owner.
After all this my dealer calls me and says he has same model, color and options manufactured 08/2007 which is exempt.
I've read most of the thread and I still have many questions. I apologize for the quantity of them, I'm sure a couple were answered in here somewhere
1)Does Nissan currently issue recall letters without much hassle? What is needed besides the VIN to acquire one? How long does it typically take to get one issued? Would I get the letter from Nissan Canada or Nissan USA?
2)Can I avoid paying state sales tax in Ohio? If so, is there a form or a website that I can print out and show the dealer in case they are not aware of this? If they don't believe it is it possible to apply for a tax refund at the border?
3)What plates do I use for the car in the US? When do I change them to Canadian plates? Is this done at the border? (either at US customs or Canadian customs)
4)How do I get the car insured while it is in the US? When I purchase the car is it immediately registered to myself at a Canadian address, or is this final registration done at the border?
5)Exactly what documentation needs to be submitted to US customs 72 hrs beforehand? Does this need to be submitted in person? Can this be done before the car is purchased or does this requirement effectively mean two trips to the US (or one 72 hr stay)
Thanks a lot!
It was specific for just SUV's, Vans & Trucks though...no mention of cars!
Let me know your fax information and send it to my email jashall@telus.net.
My vehicle model has the immobilizer as standard equipment will Toyota give me the letter. and how and where can I find out if it meets the standard.
Rob Whitfield was able to give me the name and phone number of a certified installer in my area, and I'm sure he could do the same for you. I am going to call this certified installer today to get a price quote and I will update everyone on the ballpark figure for installing one of these things.
I am going to bring in my vehicle from the US, which is "admissible" from the US but now requires the letter from the manufacturer (ha,ha,ha). I put my deposit down in October and have the October listing which says nothing to the effect that I must have the letter from the manufacturer. In fact, it simply states that I should check with the manufacturer or find out how much it would cost to install an immobilizer that meets CMVSS 114.
My gut tells me that the immobilizer already in the vehicle complies, so I'll actually try that route first, but the Masterguard M6000 is an affordable insurance policy. As an early poster put it, this is just like DRLs!
1. Nissan Dealers in the States, we do a lot of these In Montana, can print out and send you the recall letter. If you contact Nissan you will get someone in Catmandue that speaks very poor english and will tell you no.
2. No, if its a new vehicle you will have to have someone register it in the states for you, and that will require sales tax. Thats why so many are coming to, well, MONTANA! NO SALES TAX!
3. Your dealer is required to give you a temp plate that will last from 20-40 days, depending on the state.
4. You can insure your car with your province when you get your purchase order with the VIN # on it
5. Your dealer, if he has any experience at all, should do it for you. You will need a border clearance request letter, front and back copy of the title with YOUR name in the buy space, and it must be there for 72 hours. When you arrive at the border you will need all the originals of the title, purchase order and your recall letter. And they must match your copies.
6. Yes, I am a dealer that does 20 of these a week. LOL
refused entry?
I have called Peter Van Loans office, he is on the privy council and house leader in the parliament ,yesterday,
and his office hasnt replied yet.
If you reside in York North call his office at 1 877 738 3748 and discuss the problem please dont get abusive
with his staff.
I also called RIV to find out about my importation next tues manufacture date sept.
I was told it was admissable.
Regarding insurance its law that if you buy a car
in north america the have to insure it for 14 days.
Tell them to check with their underwriters before
allowing them to refuse. It works.
The persons who install use mobile trucks but if all else fails you could get one to the bridge. Hope
it doesnt come to that.
Awesome.
How does the Warranty work? Can I just give you an address to register it to in the states so the warranty is valid?
I may be looking at buying a Nissan now since Toyota won't let me import a Tacoma...
It becomes part of the inspection.
I spoke to MasterGard about their system and it can be installed for $500 but only by a certified technician.
You have 45 days to get this done and your warranty is not affected.
This is really good news since Toyota refused to send the letter about the EIS. Now I can go ahead and get my new RAV4. Toyotas EIS does not meet the Canadian Standard. CAA in Winnipeg have certified Technicians so I will go there and get the new system Installed.
The MasterGard system is also certified by the VSIB-Veh. Security Installation Bureau.
I also called RIV and they confirmed it.
Cars face border roadblock, by GREG KEENAN, Friday's Globe and Mail, November 9, 2007 at 1:05 AM EST
Thanks to Greg Kennan and the Globe and Mail for publishing this info about the Non Tariff trade barrier some car manufacturers are abusing.
The article also has some stats regarding importing cars to Canada from the USA:
* 25,000, Number of Canadians who bought U.S. vehicles last month.
* 170,000, Estimated number of Canadians who will buy a vehicle in the U.S. this year.
* 40%, Estimated number of vehicles purchased in the U.S. that will be new.
> that is 68,000 Canadians that refuse to a continuation of Car manufactures ripping them off. I include myself in this last group.
Just to clarify, I am thinking about a used car (I don't see any way to get a new Nissan into Canada with the warranty intact). Also, its from a used car lot (as opposed to from a Nissan dealer) and they don't have any experience with the export paperwork.
I'm wondering if thats going to make this a lot more difficult. What do you think?
Thanks!
I was told 2 days ago that the import exception was going to be allowed by RIV for my purchase and that a generic letter confirming this would be sent out within 48 hrs. They said I didn't even really need the letter. I find it hard to believe that a government agency responsible for a specific function can make a such a firm verbal promise of exemption/amnesty and withdraw it so easily.
if the vehivcles built after Sept. 1 2007, then how about, the 2008 model which is built before Sept. 1? any suggestion?
let's team together, there must be a way we can do it...
Some have a vehicle which has never been shown as being admissible e.g. Toyota 2008 Prius.
Some have a vehicle which is shown as being admissibale with qualification such as requiring modifications to comply. e.g. Toyota 2008 Yaris Sedan
Some have a vehicle which was listed as admissibile but subsequently were revised to being inadmissible. I am not sure of an example.
To help readers can the poster advise which vehicle they are concerned about personally, the model year, date of manufacture, if known on one line so others of us may be able to relate to the post. Some of the issues with RIV and TC can be very specific and it is difficult to filter out the relevance to our individual problems.
The vehicle I am concerned about is the 2008 Prius built 08/07
Has anyone at RIV given you any hope of change from inadmissible or exemption?
Thanks
Has anyone at RIV given you any hope of change from inadmissible or exemption with respect to this vehicle?