I just "built" an Avalon Touring on that website mentioned above, and got $26k invoice, $28k msrp. Now, split the diff at $27k (before TTL), and I think that would be a pretty good deal for this car. Seriously, help me, for $27k what else is out there that competes with this car? Maybe a Maxima....but the looks (and hopefully Toyota quality) beats that hands down. I am really looking forward to a test drive of this car.
The sales rep told me that he does not have a waiting list for the car and does not anticipate one. He believs that the car is a little bit on the high end which reduces the interest. He also said that many choose to go with the Camry.
I drive a 2002 Jaguar S-Type, with normal halogen headlights, and wanted to upgrade to Xenon.
Upon checking into this with the dealer (the 2003 offered them), I was informed of how much it was going to cost, and what it would require.
Xenon headlights or (HID), require a special power source (basically its own box of electronics). This is true for all vehicles. You cannot replace a halogen lightbulb with a Xenon lightbulb. However, there are some shady characters out there, selling 'xenon' lightbulbs, that are actually just blue tinted halogens.
Xenon headlights are very different from halogen, and are indeed much brighter, and cast a whiter light.
I believe the technology has also advanced to the point that the Xenon headlights now instanly turn on. Previously, vehicles that had Xenon headlights had to wait a minute or two for the lights to reach full brightness. Again, they are very different from halogen.
With all these things to consider, it might start to explain why Xenon headlights cost so much more compared to halogen.
Granted, both Xenon and halogen allow you to drive at night, which is the point of headlights. But Xenons are nicer, and safer.
This link I just saw allows you to click unto seeing 4 different views of the Toyota Avalon. One view gives a better view of one of the rear seats reclining what I consider is probably the 10% maximum they speak of. Enjoy the article. http://www.auto123.com/en/info/news/news,view.spy?artid=34611&- ;pg=1
Why is Toyota marking the coming Avalon as a 2005, while Lexus is releasing a new GS series at the same time as a 2006?
As a 2005, remember that in Sept. or Oct. of this year, the 2006 models will appear, at which time Toyota will correct all the omissions and the "mistakes" from 2005. At the Detroit show, I thought a Toyota guy said that this car will be brought to market after only 18 months, very fast and maybe a rush job. Maybe that's why TRAC and stability control aren't available on the Touring model, aside from Toyota's desire to drive everyone upmarket to higher priced vehicles.
I don't think the 05 Avalon is a "rush job". The shortage of components for the VSC system may be the reason why we can't get it on the lower trims. I'm sure Toyota will resolve this with the 06 or 07 model. Maybe Toyota didn't want to skip a model year (for consistency), who knows ?
Hid's are ok for the one driving the vehicle not for the one in front of or across from the vehicle. I drive an MR2 and not long ago there was an RX330 with the HID's behind me (at a stop light no less). No matter how much I fussed with the day/night mirror I could not get that blinding glare away.
18 months is now the normal cycle for Toyota from design to actual production. Is nothing new. This is why most manufacturers envy Toyota and rank it as the most admired automobile manufacturing company (according to Forbes magazine).
Doc, have you actually spoken to a sales manager and gotten firm figures on this car? Or just the floor personnel?
The interest is there and this vehicle will appeal to a wider audience as opposed to the last generation that was mainly aiming at the domestic buyers such as Buick, Oldsmobile, etc.
Hey mack, thanks for your insight. Question for you- have any of the Sales/Mktg mgmt at Toyota explained why there is no VSC option for the Touring model. Its really an issue for safety oriented buyers, IMO, and since Toyota has VSC standard on all its SUVs, the Scion xB, available on 4 cylinder Camrys and Corollas, this really is non-sensical. It is the major reservation that I have about this vehicle.
I don't expect Toyota to explain the reason for the lack of VSC on the XL & Touring (what could they possibly give us as a reason when most of their lower end vehicles have it as a option/standard).
will more than likely be offered later in the model year. I'll ask them and let you know. I've yet to see a Corolla or a Camry 4 cylinder with it although it's listed as an available option.
Interesting conflict with the printed brochure I received from the dealer. The e-brochure indicates integrated fog lights only on the touring but the printed brochure shows them on all but the base model. Someone has it wrong..
I think the headlights would have looked better if they placed projector beams like the Solara's. To me, they just look like something's missing, empty if you will; especially in the new eBrochure.
You are putting out a little misinformation, so let me brief you a little more without getting too technical.
Xenon, or HID, usually require a ballast, which is what you describe as the box you talk about. The light bulbs themselves, are rated at 35 watts, but the ballast changes things a bit. Most, not all, are brighter, but there are disadvantages. The cut off of light, is very distinct, and since there is not as much fade, it is distracting to other drivers. CR talks alot about this. BMW's lights are superior, but for instance Audi's lights were rated poor, both HID.
Now, sometimes they advertise Halogen's as bright or blue as HID. Some are vast improvements, such as the PIAA brand, which I have in my own vehicle. They are still Halogen, still rated at 55/60 watts, but put out light output, measured either in lumens, or candlepower, around the 100/110 watt mark. The HID bulbs would not work in a halogen reflector.
I hope that makes more of this clear.
In addition, many people use FOG lights for auxillary lighting. This is probably counterproductive since the FOG are very low beam lighting, closer to the road and only illuminate in directly in front and on the sides. They do nothing for high speed, down the road illumination. They also cause more glare to oncoming drivers.
Drivers would do more of a service to themselves, and on coming traffic, but being better, or stronger replacement bulbs for the low or high beams, or supplementing the lighting with DRIVING lights, not FOG lights, relayed to the high beams with extra down the road vision.
Go to sit in the Hyundais at the recent Motor Trend show here in town. Disappointed to say the least. I was really hoping for more out of these cars but I guess they are still a ways off from competing with Toyota/Honda.
Are standard on the Touring, XLS, and Limited. The e-brochure was a rush job and should have never been released until all the information was correct. Looks like someone didn't do their job.
absfich, thank you for the information on the HID lamps.
I just don't know about Toyota marketing. I drove 450 miles down and back to see the Avalon's at the Portland Auto Show. They had a Limited (Maroonish red) and an XL (White Pearl). The Toyota factory guy, who told me he travels to all the auto shows, said this was the first he had seen the Avalon....the Toyota regional guys for the Pacific Northwest said the same thing as did the sales guys Also, they did not have any Avalon brochures. In fact, I knew more about the Avalon from this site's postings than any of the Toyota persons. They had disconnected the batteries so I couldn't see the GPS navigation systems, operate the radio, etc. Answering the questions on this site: 1. I did not see any Aux. inputs for the radio, 2. The seat controls did not operate, but appeared to be 8-way, 3. No one knew about any memory functions for seats, etc...and I didn't really trust the answers 4. I was told the auto HVAC could be used manually, but not demonstrated, 5. I was told the chassis was not Camry, but brand new specific to Avalon, but? 6. The new Smart Key was not available for demonstration.
The Toyota regional persons said that all PNW dealers will have at least one Avalon by February 7 or 14. They said dealers would trade back-and-forth using the Toyota "preference system".
The Avalon looked fine and was comfortable seating. But, so was the Acura RL, the Mercury Montigo...and a host of other cars..there's some real competition for the "4-door comfortable touring sedan". So, guess I'll wait to drive one. It was a good trip, but a bit dissapointed that the Toyota folks did not have any knowledge of the product.I'm sure they'll catch up one of these days....Wes
Re: XG350, well, aside from the "class" issue, the XG350 does not have side airbags and has 1/3 less horsepower. So, no, it does not compare even considering its lower price.
I did it. I purchased the XLS, won't see it though till the middle of Feb. All I can say is I can't wait and it's below the MSRP, so in spite of what everyone is saying, you can deal, it just depends I guess on the dealer. Good Luck. After doing all my research by comparing others in its class, it's one hell of a car. And with all its power it beats them all with miles to the gallon. If you liked the 04, your going to love this one and honestly, I believe it's worth more then they priced it. Its as close to the Lexus without flaunting a name plate, but saving the difference in hard earned cash. It is a winner.
I should have been more specific. Fog lights std on Touring, XLS, and Limited. HID's std on Touring and Limited.
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Regional and local auto shows. If they are anything like my local auto show, all dealers provide a couple of sales persons to stand around and provide unsolicited information to the attendees. Actual selling is prohibited. wesq, you probably spoke with a salesperson or someone that works with the regional distributor. Yes, in some cases even the distributors employees only get a limited number of vehicles before the actual launch begins. The current Avalon's XLS auto climate control can be operated manually. I don't know what the fuss is about. Read the owner's manual.
Hey Just Me, what part of the country do you live in? I've got a $500 deposit on one waiting to come in. The dealer has more or less said that there will be no discount from MSRP.
I looked at the forum with the GM enthusiasts and the ones that hate the Avalon sound like they're in denial. Their arguments aren't backed up with anything. They're just saying, "Your 2005 Avalon is the ugliest car I've ever seen!; look at my gorgeous 500."
Hi Douglas, Hi Mike. I live in the South between GA and SC. Last year when I purchased my 2004 Avalon I priced it with three dealers before buying it. I was up front and told them what I was doing. I was also well prepared with knowing the invoice prices so they couldn't BS me and they didn't. One dealer in the end was more aggressive then the other I used to purchase my vehicles from and I got a hell of a deal and purchased it from him. The sales manager I used to deal with at the dealership I used to purchase my cars from had left a year before. Anyhow he has returned and I told him I want the new 2005 Avalon and he said I want you back. So I priced the car again with 4 different dealers at this time and in the end the guy I used to buy my car from accepted my bid. I promised him I won't share the deal he gave me with any of the other dealers but suffice it to say from my experience with these four dealers if you stay your ground and you have a trade and they give you what your car is worth according to Kelly or Edmunds they will come down off the MSRP anywhere from a thousand to 2 below it, especially if the car you trade in is still under the manufacturers warranty which mine still is. On that basis they have a car they can certify and make up the difference in profit what they gave up on the 2005 Avalon. So that's what the negotiating is all about. Also in my case I have been dealing with this dealership for 5 years and losing my business last year on the 2004, they wanted my business back, and in my case I have a strong Sales manager who is legitimate and he knows I won't share what I purchased it for with the other dealers or for that fact anyone else. I'm just replying Douglas. to respond to your question and to show that there is a way to negotiate, but I can tell you it isn't easy and time consuming but saving that kind of money in the end is worth it. Also I never want to be a fool and pay MSRP for a car because it's brand new knowing that once the lots start to fill up you would be able to make a better deal. If that was the case and they wouldn't budge, I would have waited, I didn't have to be the first kid on the block with the car. I am purchasing this new Avalon because I believe it's superior to last years, style wise, power wise, rear seat reclining etc. Toyota is committed to quality and the service departments at the couple of dealers I use are superior to any American dealership I ever used back in the old days when I only bought American before I realized there isn't any true all made in America car anyway. In fact the Avalon is more American then some of the American manufacturers. It is a global market place. I remember when I test drove the first Lexus several years ago what a wonderful car it was but couldn't afford it at the time when I believe it was some where around 36 or 38 thousand. Well this new 2005 Avalon I believe is as good as that first Lexus and maybe better without that name plate, and after researching all the new cars in it's class, when taking into consideration, the specifications, head room, mileage per gallon, power, overall style, comfort etc., the only negative I see is the trunk being shrunk somewhat, but putting this new Avalon on a scale with everything else in MHO in outshines the rest of the cars in this class. The Chrysler 300 in MHO is designed for a Macho guy who wants to say I am here as he drives up with that Tank like Mercedes style front grill. I am not being Macho and want to drive up with a well run quality automobile in my own silent way without being noticed, but feeling great behind the wheel of a car that has ample room to cary 5 people with no one feeling squeezed while I listen to the purring hum of the engine take me silently down the road. I will not criticize other manufacturers, I can only speak from my perspective and from my research and for me this new 2005 Avalon overall is the best of the lot and worth the price even if I had to pay a little more but fortunately didn't have to. As far as the VSC traction control, in my part of the country I don't need it. The navigation stuff I can also do without as I have all my life, I don't need this toy to distract me and it's fun when I plan a trip to use a map if I have to or get all I need in advance from Mapquest, so that kind of money for me would be a waste. However if money means nothing and having it makes one feel better, then they should opt for it. I trust I have answered your question and went a little overboard. Have a wonderful day my friend.
MIKE, I didn't purchase any options, I took the XLS as is, although it came with mats for the trunk and inside the car. For your area with snow et cetera, I could see why you want the VSC and heated seats. The base MSRP for my car with mats is $31629. MIKE, I also guaranty you, if you call a couple of other dealers and tell them here is what I will pay, being at a minimum $1,000 under the MSRP, you will get it, the $500 isn't enough, you just have to be determined and compare apples to apples, so always work off the same MSRP with each dealer. The more knowledgeable you are the less BS you will get. Hope I helped.
I just got a call from local Toyota dealer and he informed me they will have one or two Avalons to show next week. He said they will not have actual cars to sell until late February. No bruchures yet. What a drawn out affair this has been.
Toyota has lost a lot of sales because of this late introduction of the 05 Avalon. There are a lot of natural Avalon customers who are driving around in new G35's, TL's, ES330's, and what have you. Those customers are gone. They have a lot of ground to make up. This business of sticking to the MSRP won't last three days.
Sorry, the information in your post doesnt really make much sense. This car has always had a launch date of late February/early March 2005.
Im not sure how Toyota really 'lost' any of the customers you state they have. The Avalon doesnt truly compete agains the G35 and TL which are midsize luxury sports models. The Avalon is much roomier than those, and lacks the prestige and service reputation of those makes. Personally, I'd rather have seen a fully 'baked' design come out in February than a rushed design with a crashed Qualtiy Assurance testing/program come out in Fall 2004.
All prelimiary indications are that this model was worth the wait.
In conclusion, since this vehicle was never slated for anything other than a late February launch, I do not see how this is a drawn out affair. The bottom line is that you wait for it to be introduced (on time) in February, or dont. With sales up double digits last year (as well as Net Income), I dont think Toyota is going to be lamenting they didnt get the Avalon on sale in the Fall.
Thanks Alpha, I will. I won't however be taking delivery of the Avalon until March 11th although the paper work is done, the car won't arrive until around February the 15th to the 20th and I will be out of town then, so they will of course hold it for me. I will let you know how it handles, and thanks for the link.
Those of us who have experienced late introductions are use to this kind of thing. Back in October 1984, I ordered a 1985 Chevy Astro van sight unseen. They began production in November of cargo vans, but had a very slow startup and did not produce their first passenger van until late Feb 1985. I took delivery of mine in March 1985. That was 5 1/2 months after placing my order. I am not sure I would ever do that again. However, just give Toyota a chance to get things going! Toyota has been honest from the very beginning stating exactly what was going to happen. Production was scheduled to start in January and actually started in December. The rumored official date for dealer introduction I have always heard is mid-February. This is still January - so don't get so uptight about dealers not having inventory and not knowing a lot about the product. It will come in time. Just be patient.
When Toyota gives an intro date of say Feb 15th for example, we will always have the car a couple of days before. I don't know what's up with the dealers that don't have any brochures. Maybe the admin person that takes care of ordering the brochures didn't order any. We've gone thru two of the platic wrapped stacks already, have the postcards, etc. As I said before every dealer will have at least one then the normal allocation begins. We are getting the first one next week, a Limited in Desert sand and then a Touring in Titanium silver, and an XLS in Phantom gray. Our next allocation shows about 9 Avalons on it with a good mix of all trim levels.
Interestingly I have been watching the on-line inventory of 5 area dealers the past few weeks to see when a 2005 Avalon shows up in someones inventory. So far that hasn't happened. However, what I have noticed is that it doesn't appear that the 2004 Avalons are selling. In the 5 dealers websites, it appears that only one of the dealers has sold any 2004 Avalons in the past several weeks. One of the 5 has no inventory, and one of the others went from 3 to 1, but the other dealers still have their same inventory. I know those of us who are following the 2005 intro would not be buying the 2004's, but it would seem the dealers would be giving them away to get them off of their lots. If they are, it doesn't look like they are finding any takers in my area.
Previously it has been posted that the options package prices on the Limited Avalon had come down. For example, Option B was $1060, now $650 according to the ebrocure.
I got my dealer to get my vehicle report with VIN, option codes etc.
It appears according to this report that base on a Limited is $33540.
Vehicle Stability Control and Brake assist is $650.
Remote Engine Starter intalled at factory $499.
AND a Preferred Accessory Package for $463.
Destination Charge $540.
Can anyone tell me what the Preferred Accessory Package is???? $463 is a lot for mats. I can not seem to find out what is in the package.
Total is $35692. Plus, they are allowing to trade in use them to privately sell my Denali. Thus, I get the private party sale price, but get to trade it in for the price the private party and I agreed upon. That way saving me a lot in Taxes, but also helping me avoid recapturing tax consequences from depreciating my Denali. Great dealer. They will deal a little.
The Accessory Package includes Front & Rear floor mats, Trunk mat, First Aid Kit, Glass breakage sensor and Emergency Assistance Kit. According to the eBrochure these items would cost $540 if purchased separately.
Probably a waste of money for you and lots of profit for the dealer.
Thank you. According to my current 2004 Avalon in the manual on page 212, it says use Octane 87 or higher, then goes on to recommend 91. So if the new manual is anything like the 2004 I guess it would be okay to run on 87 and higher. I have been using the 87 and never had a problem and at times when I went higher it didn't improve my miles and never had pings on the 87. But I won't assume on the 91 till I read the manual, the Sales manager I asked had no clue. Hope this helps for now till we actually see the manual. Actually the brochure has the Toyota number 1-800-Go Toyota, and I called to check out certain features so as not to believe what I thought was just hearsay or rumors. They were very nice and answered my questions but never thought about asking them on the Gas. You can call them Aristotle, probably on Monday between 9 and eight.
The Avalon, as you know, is Toyota's flag ship car. Their top of the line. For four and a half months they haven't had this product to sell to the public at large. The competition has been selling their 05's for the last four months, since mid September. Many potential Avalon buyers went eslewhere. So, don't tell me this late introduction has'nt hurt their sales. Many of us are willing to wait around, with baited breath, waiting for Toyota to get their new car out. But, not all.
Thanks JustMe, I've got about 9 dealers in the greater D.C. area that I'm working. So far none have come up with exactly what I want. An XLS with option F. One dealers assure me that they have what I want coming. So far any that have given me prices have been at or above MSRP. I'd like to have had one of these 5 months ago but I'm telling them right up front that I'll wait until they can get a lot closer to invoice.
The shifter on the 05 is a gated thing. I've never seen or used one like this before. I din't see any other positions then P,R & D. What happened to 2 & 1? I realize that this is a 5-speed tranny, so where did the others go?
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Upon checking into this with the dealer (the 2003 offered them), I was informed of how much it was going to cost, and what it would require.
Xenon headlights or (HID), require a special power source (basically its own box of electronics). This is true for all vehicles. You cannot replace a halogen lightbulb with a Xenon lightbulb. However, there are some shady characters out there, selling 'xenon' lightbulbs, that are actually just blue tinted halogens.
Xenon headlights are very different from halogen, and are indeed much brighter, and cast a whiter light.
I believe the technology has also advanced to the point that the Xenon headlights now instanly turn on. Previously, vehicles that had Xenon headlights had to wait a minute or two for the lights to reach full brightness. Again, they are very different from halogen.
With all these things to consider, it might start to explain why Xenon headlights cost so much more compared to halogen.
Granted, both Xenon and halogen allow you to drive at night, which is the point of headlights. But Xenons are nicer, and safer.
As a 2005, remember that in Sept. or Oct. of this year, the 2006 models will appear, at which time Toyota will correct all the omissions and the "mistakes" from 2005. At the Detroit show, I thought a Toyota guy said that this car will be brought to market after only 18 months, very fast and maybe a rush job. Maybe that's why TRAC and stability control aren't available on the Touring model, aside from Toyota's desire to drive everyone upmarket to higher priced vehicles.
18 months is now the normal cycle for Toyota from design to actual production. Is nothing new. This is why most manufacturers envy Toyota and rank it as the most admired automobile manufacturing company (according to Forbes magazine).
Doc, have you actually spoken to a sales manager and gotten firm figures on this car? Or just the floor personnel?
The interest is there and this vehicle will appeal to a wider audience as opposed to the last generation that was mainly aiming at the domestic buyers such as Buick, Oldsmobile, etc.
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Mackabee
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Mackabee
You are putting out a little misinformation, so let me brief you a little more without getting too technical.
Xenon, or HID, usually require a ballast, which is what you describe as the box you talk about. The light bulbs themselves, are rated at 35 watts, but the ballast changes things a bit. Most, not all, are brighter, but there are disadvantages. The cut off of light, is very distinct, and since there is not as much fade, it is distracting to other drivers. CR talks alot about this. BMW's lights are superior, but for instance Audi's lights were rated poor, both HID.
Now, sometimes they advertise Halogen's as bright or blue as HID. Some are vast improvements, such as the PIAA brand, which I have in my own vehicle. They are still Halogen, still rated at 55/60 watts, but put out light output, measured either in lumens, or candlepower, around the 100/110 watt mark. The HID bulbs would not work in a halogen reflector.
I hope that makes more of this clear.
In addition, many people use FOG lights for auxillary lighting. This is probably counterproductive since the FOG are very low beam lighting, closer to the road and only illuminate in directly in front and on the sides. They do nothing for high speed, down the road illumination. They also cause more glare to oncoming drivers.
Drivers would do more of a service to themselves, and on coming traffic, but being better, or stronger replacement bulbs for the low or high beams, or supplementing the lighting with DRIVING lights, not FOG lights, relayed to the high beams with extra down the road vision.
abfisch
----the Hyundai XG350L
Cheaper, yes. "nicer"? Not according to any review I've seen.
Not jumping down your throat, just pointing out that I think we're talking two different classes of vehicles. At least at this point in time.
absfich, thank you for the information on the HID lamps.
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Mackabee
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YOU ARE NOT SERIOUS ARE YOU ?
The Toyota regional persons said that all PNW dealers will have at least one Avalon by February 7 or 14. They said dealers would trade back-and-forth using the Toyota "preference system".
The Avalon looked fine and was comfortable seating. But, so was the Acura RL, the Mercury Montigo...and a host of other cars..there's some real competition for the "4-door comfortable touring sedan". So, guess I'll wait to drive one. It was a good trip, but a bit dissapointed that the Toyota folks did not have any knowledge of the product.I'm sure they'll catch up one of these days....Wes
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Regional and local auto shows. If they are anything like my local auto show, all dealers provide a couple of sales persons to stand around and provide unsolicited information to the attendees. Actual selling is prohibited. wesq, you probably spoke with a salesperson or someone that works with the regional distributor. Yes, in some cases even the distributors employees only get a limited number of vehicles before the actual launch begins. The current Avalon's XLS auto climate control can be operated manually. I don't know what the fuss is about. Read the owner's manual.
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Mackabee
I'm working a few dealers in the DC area for an XLS with option F. Nav system, VSC & heated seats. MSRP of about 34K.
Thanks,
MikeS.
MIKE, I didn't purchase any options, I took the XLS as is, although it came with mats for the trunk and inside the car. For your area with snow et cetera, I could see why you want the VSC and heated seats. The base MSRP for my car with mats is $31629. MIKE, I also guaranty you, if you call a couple of other dealers and tell them here is what I will pay, being at a minimum $1,000 under the MSRP, you will get it, the $500 isn't enough, you just have to be determined and compare apples to apples, so always work off the same MSRP with each dealer. The more knowledgeable you are the less BS you will get. Hope I helped.
Toyota has lost a lot of sales because of this late introduction of the 05 Avalon. There are a lot of natural Avalon customers who are driving around in new G35's, TL's, ES330's, and what have you. Those customers are gone. They have a lot of ground to make up. This business of sticking to the MSRP won't last three days.
Im not sure how Toyota really 'lost' any of the customers you state they have. The Avalon doesnt truly compete agains the G35 and TL which are midsize luxury sports models. The Avalon is much roomier than those, and lacks the prestige and service reputation of those makes. Personally, I'd rather have seen a fully 'baked' design come out in February than a rushed design with a crashed Qualtiy Assurance testing/program come out in Fall 2004.
All prelimiary indications are that this model was worth the wait.
In conclusion, since this vehicle was never slated for anything other than a late February launch, I do not see how this is a drawn out affair. The bottom line is that you wait for it to be introduced (on time) in February, or dont. With sales up double digits last year (as well as Net Income), I dont think Toyota is going to be lamenting they didnt get the Avalon on sale in the Fall.
-my .02
~alpha
http://www.iihs.org/news_releases/2004/pr102804.htm
Congrats on your new Avalon, please keep us posted when it arrives!
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Mackabee
I got my dealer to get my vehicle report with VIN, option codes etc.
It appears according to this report that base on a Limited is $33540.
Vehicle Stability Control and Brake assist is $650.
Remote Engine Starter intalled at factory $499.
AND a Preferred Accessory Package for $463.
Destination Charge $540.
Can anyone tell me what the Preferred Accessory Package is???? $463 is a lot for mats. I can not seem to find out what is in the package.
Total is $35692. Plus, they are allowing to trade in use them to privately sell my Denali. Thus, I get the private party sale price, but get to trade it in for the price the private party and I agreed upon. That way saving me a lot in Taxes, but also helping me avoid recapturing tax consequences from depreciating my Denali. Great dealer. They will deal a little.
Probably a waste of money for you and lots of profit for the dealer.
MikeS.
MikeS.