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2005-2007 Toyota Avalon



  • "Mainly, though, the 2005 Avalon is a great way to get premium features and the luxury of space without quite paying luxury prices."


    I have friends that ask me why a guy in his 30's is looking at this vehicle. THAT is why.
  • future1future1 Posts: 103
    That USA Today review is the first one out there that mentions the transmission issues:


    "A sometimes-indecisive transmission is the one mechanical hiccup noticed during the test drives. In stop-and-go traffic or cruising at walking speed looking for an address or street sign, the transmission can't settle on a gear. Little jerks and shudders come through as the transmission hunts for the right ratio. Disappointing in such a well-done car."
  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    Mr. Healy must have been reading these board as even he is imagining transmission "hiccups"

                      ; )

  • mackabeemackabee Posts: 4,709
    Just me, thank you for the kind words. Every little bit helps and words like yours help me tackle every day with a little more strenght.

                           : )

  • 5539655396 Posts: 529
    Notice that Healeys test drive was in a pre-production car. Posts here state that they do not notice this. Lets hope it is non-existant in production cars. BTW, we drove an early production 2000 Avalon and didn't like it. Later cars were just fine,so If you see things you don't feel are up to snuff on early cars, go back for another drive a few months later to see if they are still there. It will be cheaper to buy too. We looked at the first 05 the dealer got in and noticed uneven gaps on either side of the hood. They will dial it in very soon.
  • mjb56mjb56 Posts: 170
    I've been looking into this vehicle and started to settle on the Touring model for the more sporty handling. The one oddity that I find is that the leather seats are not heated, and it is not even an option (other than an aftermarket). Have any of you found this to be true? (I have not seen an actual car, I'm only taking this from the brochure.) That seems sort of "cheap" for a near $30K vehicle, doesn't it?
  • I'm interested in the XL also and am curious to see what the interior looks like. Local dealers only have XLS and Limited, but not XL. I haven't come across any pictures online yet either.
  • For those of you who purchased your 2005 Avalon. I would like to know what color you chose or have for the exterior and interior, and why you chose them. I'm trying to get a feel for what color combination are the most popular before I purchase my new Avalon. Thanks.


  • I noticed that the new 2006 Lexus GS also has the body side molding at the bottom of the doors. This may be a new direction for Toyota/Lexus in design, where the 2006 Lexus GS and the 2005 Toyota Avalon is leading the way.


    Any comment anyone?


  • cove148cove148 Posts: 117
    As the owner Avalons for 10 years, which I loved, I am passing on the 2005 simply for this reason. Looked at the car several times and I see those large bowed doors and image the paint scrapes and dents. Yes I did get dings in the previous models, but the doors are relatively flat and the factory protection is good. Dings I did get were easy for the "dent man" to remove.
  • tassotasso Posts: 33
    I choose black with the light tan interior - gorgeous. The first new car my brother, the owner of numerous vehicles include a g-wagon, every wanted to drive that I bought.


    I guess I would like molding, but my Denali did not have them, and the cars I have had that had them, all got dings. My aurora, denali,bravada,regal,tahoe, all got them from people in parking lots.


    Smart key is nice, BUT if your wife has her purse in the car with her smart key in the purse it does not work. Essentially it becomes a key fob when you approach.
  • I have some questions for you, tasso.


    If the car is still on and you walk off with the Smart Key in your pocket, will the car remain on? Or does it shut off itself?


    2nd. The black sensors on each handle; Is it just a touch-sensitive where you touch it and the door unlocks or do you have to push it in as a button before anything is unlocked?


    How do you open the trunk? Is there some sort of handle under the garnish or something? Besides the interior trunk release.


    Thanks a lot.
  • just__mejust__me Posts: 508
    My car color is the Desert Sand Mica. My last two Avalons were the same color. I do like the color with the light leather seats, and mine has the Birch imitation wood. It doesn't show the dirt and in the South where I live I like a light color that reflects heat rather then absorbs it. If I went for another color I believe the Titanium with a grey interior would be striking. As far as the molding, I was in Barnes and Nobles today and was reading Consumer Guide and noticed some other expensive cars, one a Mercedes at a steep price, I forget the Model, but a sedan that also had the molding at the bottom like the Avalon, and others with no molding as I previously posted, so maybe some manufacturers are going for a look rather then thinking about dings the happen anyway unless luck prevails and someone who opens there door had the curve on their door lined up with the molding. I saw a Prius in the parking lot the other day that had molding put on by the owner, I knew that because he did a horrible job installing it, it wasn't straight in spots and as I looked back it took away from the overall design of the car so I won't be doing that. Incidentaly I have no lag on my car regardless of what Healy said, I wonder if he really drove one? I hope I answered your questions.

  • fd1000fd1000 Posts: 47
    Tasso, could you post some pictures of your new Avalon? Other then one very obscure picture on the net, I have not seen a 2005 Avalon in black, and think it would look great.


    I myself am considering Black with the Graphite interior. Tan interior would be my second choice.


    Thanks in advance!
  • I ordered 1997,2000 and 2002 Avalon XLS without moonroof and had been very happy. Now it is no longer optional. I did test drive the new model two days ago and was somewhat disappointed by the loss of headroom with seat all the way back and as low as possible. But in the back it is a different story, I am 6 feet tall and my head touches the roof if I do not recline the seat back. What a dumb design ! Why could not they leave the moonroof as optional ? Also I hope the rear disc brakes do not crack or rust out in 40,000 miles like my other Avalons.
  • mikes.mikes. Posts: 336
    "There is no need to get ripped off if you are mature enough to exercise patience. Of course, if you're filthy rich, it probably doesn't matter."


    Ya know, there really is no need for your snide remarks.


    Now where is that ignore button???


  • mikes.mikes. Posts: 336
    My answer too, I bought my '96 Avalon when I was 39 and it is still going strong. I'm 6'5" and about 350. I'm totally comfortable in this car.


    Mike S.
  • mikes.mikes. Posts: 336
    We bought Indigo Ink because we liked it best out of all the colors. Ours has a beige interior.


  • mikes.mikes. Posts: 336
    "I ordered 1997,2000 and 2002 Avalon XLS without moonroof and had been very happy. Now it is no longer optional. I did test drive the new model two days ago and was somewhat disappointed by the loss of headroom with seat all the way back and as low as possible. But in the back it is a different story, I am 6 feet tall and my head touches the roof if I do not recline the seat back. What a dumb design ! Why could not they leave the moonroof as optional ?"


    Strange, like I've said before I'm 6'5" and in the past I had to skip the moonroofs because the Avalon and the Camry was too low for me. I brushed my hair against the ceilings in them.


    In this '05 I have none of that problem in either the front or back.
  • mikes.mikes. Posts: 336
    We took our new baby on an almost 200 mile trip today that included freeway, country roads, hills and city driving. Here are my impressions.


    The ride started out very noisy (windy), sounded like a door wasn't shut right or a window was cracked. We had to stop on the side of the freeway to check the doors. The door ajar indicator light was off, but still... After re shutting all 4 doors and making sure the windows were all tight it dawned on me to check the moonroof. Yep, it was slightly cracked from when I'd opened it earlier in the day. Problem solved.


    The power of this car is impressive! We were merging onto the freeway at one point and had big rigs in both lanes. I was able to pull well ahead of them using the on-ramp w/o any trouble and with room to spare.


    Going uphill at 70 for about 2 miles the car didn't even breath hard. Passing isn't a problem either. Heck, keeping your speed down could be a problem. The ride is smooth and the car so quite, I was doing 80 in a 70 zone before I knew it.


    2 lane slightly twisty slightly hilly country roads were fun. This car twists and turns and climbs like a champ.


    Watch out if using the cruise control on short/small hills. As the car slows going uphill the cruise adds power pretty fast and then when you hit the crest of the hill you jump ahead a bit and that wasn't much fun. My advice? Cruise is not recommended for short hills.


    In city driving the car responds well and I have a lot of visibility all around. The A pillar isn't huge and distracting like on some cars. Maneuverability is nice, changing lanes isn't a problem and neither is stopping. I had one instance in 5 O'clock traffic when I had to stop hard and fast because of traffic in front of me doing so. The only problem was the jerk riding my bumper almost got to buy me a new one. Boy would I have been ticked!


    We spent several hours in the car today and it wasn't tiring. I spent a lot of time sitting in the car trying to figure out the NAV system and playing with other features while the wife was shopping. She hit 3 malls and 2 Toys R US stores plus a couple target stores. Oh Joy! I did get to 2 Best Buys and a CC store so it wasn't a total loss :)


    Con't in a new post.
  • mikes.mikes. Posts: 336
    The NAV system;

    It has some quirks. When parked in my driveway at home it has my address off by 200something. I'm at 318 and it says 580 something. I key in 318 and it puts it in a worse spot. I key in the old number (county renamed and/or re numbered about 3 years ago) and it is about .5 of a mile off. I try adjusting by scrolling the map and as close as I can get is 421.


    When I set up a route home from about 50 miles away it gave me 3 options. The quick way was about 14 miles longer but about the same time. It was all freeway. The short route, which I almost always use, was laid out kinda funny. From where we were it is about a mile to US 340. The system had me take a path through a residential area onto a back road that then paralleld 340 for about 10 miles. So we took it and it lead us just fine. The turns were well laid out and it warned us in plenty of time. I had the map set at a quarter mile and it gave us plenty of information as to where we were and where we were heading. When we about .5 from the house it didn't give us the most direct route. I ignored what it said, hoping that it would correct me or recompute. it did neither. When I got to our house it did tell me that we had reached our destination. I don't know what would have happened if I hadn't known what I was doing.


    This thing is a bit hard to use but seems to do a good job. The wife should be able to get to most places after I teach her how to. I have to learn first though. Gonna take some more time.


    More still too come...
  • mikes.mikes. Posts: 336
    First impressions;


    Lots of power, smooth quiet comfortable ride. Absolutely no hint of hesitation. Not from 0 and not from 70 to 90 MPH.


    Nav system is gonna take some more work, but hey, if I can program millions of $ worth of computers for the last 30 years I can learn this too.


    Dynamic Lazer cruise is a bit more sensitive then I usually drive. But works really well. I drive a lot of freeway and am always having big rig issues. I've really come to dislike big rig drivers. When you have one change lanes right on top of you the cruise can really slow you down fast.


    The climate screen always says "Air Conditioning" You can have the heat set at 80 and it stills says "Air Conditioning". Must be that Japanese to English translation thing.


    No overdrive on/off button. I'm gonna have to read up on the sequential shift. When on a long down hill I was taught by my truck drive dad to down shift instead of ride the brakes. All my previous autos had a overdrive on/off that I used to take the tranny out of 4th into 3rd. This 5sp doesn't have any. So what I have to find out is; Can I switch from D into S at 65mph? W/O trashing the tranny. If the owners manual doesn't tell me I'm gonna have to track down my cousin in Calif that is a Toyota Master Mechanic or whatever they call them now.


    The cabin has much better lighting then my '06.


    Having trouble getting the Home Link working on my garage door. Gonna have to play some more.


    I like that I can switch off the DRLs. I use them on the road all the time but when sitting in the car while the wife shops for 2 hours I don't like. I run the engine for the A/C or the heat and the Sienna's were always on.


    Why 17" tires? What's the big difference?


    Thats all for now, aren't you glad? :)


  • mikes.mikes. Posts: 336
    "No overdrive on/off button. I'm gonna have to read up on the sequential shift. When on a long down hill I was taught by my truck drive dad to down shift instead of ride the brakes. All my previous autos had a overdrive on/off that I used to take the tranny out of 4th into 3rd. This 5sp doesn't have any. So what I have to find out is; Can I switch from D into S at 65mph? W/O trashing the tranny. If the owners manual doesn't tell me I'm gonna have to track down my cousin in Calif that is a Toyota Master Mechanic or whatever they call them now."


    Page 163 & 164 in my owners manual say YES you can go from D into S while driving. Cool
  • I took delivery of my 2005 Desert Sand Mica Limited with Ivory interior on Thursday and now have about 100 miles on the odo. Compared to my 2001 Avalon XLS (also Desert Sand Mica w/Ivory interior) this car is much improved. The ride seems a little firmer, which I like. It takes corners and curving interstate on-ramps with less body roll than my '01. It also seems to be a little quieter inside, with no wind noise or other noise/vibration/harshness. The power is amazing, with no discernable transmission lag from any speed. The only options on my Limited were XM Satellite Radio (installed by Dealer), VSC, and Cargo/Trunk Mats. I did not want the Nav or Laser Cruise Control.


    Because I intend to keep this car for a while, and it is a new model year, I also bought the Toyota Platinum 6 Yr/75K mile 0 deductible extended warranty. That way I will have peace of mind with bumper to bumper coverage beyond 3Yr/36K miles. They had a special on the extended warranty, which was normally $1,200. I got it for $900. Even though I never had any problems with my '01 Avalon, and Toyota has an excellent reputation for reliability, I felt my peace of mind was worth the price.


    The sound system in the Limited is also great. Having the added HVAC and radio controls on the steering wheel is a nice touch, after not having them on the prior model. It will take me a while getting used to not reaching for the controls on the center dash.


    My friends really like the reclining seats in the rear. They all wanted to set back there when we went to dinner last night. The HID lights are nice and bright, and always dip down and up when you turn them on to self level themselves. I have never had them on any of my prior autos and really like them.


    I am 6'4.5" tall and have no problem with head room in the front or back, even with the sunroof. I just adjusted the seat height and recline position in the front to find the right fit. I don't feel like I am reclining too far back, and I have a great view of the road. The extending drivers seat provides excellent thigh support.


    I can't think of any other comments right now. Overall I am very happy with my purchase and look forward to many years of happy motoring in this new vehicle.
  • tassotasso Posts: 33
    No the car does not shut off if you walk away. It "rings or dings" at you several times than stops, as to not annoy your wife who is still in the car as I run into the bank with the fob in my pocket.


    The black sensors are touch and not push sensitive. And if another fob is not in/around the cars perimeter it works perfect. Often, but not always, you do not even need to touch the black button, just the handle.


    The trunk opens via touching a similar black button located at the very lower passenger side of the trunk lid.


    I love this car. Still figuring out the ins and outs of the smart key, but it is a great feature.


    The Buick LaCrosse is no competition. BUT the new Lucerne coming this fall from Buick looks sharp, and has almost the exact same rear window design. Maybe it will come down to Buick and Toyota in my book.


     The Toyota feels so big inside. The visibilty is great. You practically do not see the hood at all when viewing outward.
  • tassotasso Posts: 33


    I would be happy to post pictures. How do I do this? Sorry, love the internet but not too savvy at it.


    The black helps hide some of the lines on the side I do not like, PLUS it gives it a long and narrow limo like look. Gonna tint the windows I believe.
  • pmcb48pmcb48 Posts: 192
    Very good comments. I would be very interested in what the outside installation components of the XM radio look like. I have heard of a "black box" on the trunk lid, with a cable running over the front edge, and possibly an antenna on the rear window. Are you happy with the installation? Also, how are you liking the XM service? Congratulations on your new car; I am also leaning toward Desert Sand Mica and Ivory, although thinking about Mirage Blue and Ivory as well.
  • Thanks a lot. One more, though. Is there any key hidden in the fob? I keep my cars for a while and all electronics start to screw up after a while. What happens if the key fob fails? How do you turn the car on? How do you even get into the car?


    Question for XLS-below owners. How do you get into the trunk then? Or is it the same is the black button on the Limited? On the Sienna the rear hatch is opened via a little electronic rubber handle. I love those kinds. Very modern.


    Laser Cruise is very useful on straight roads. I love using it on the Sienna. Takes a while to get use to though.
  • fd1000fd1000 Posts: 47
    Download and install FilePC.


    Get it at FilePC.Com


    Then send the pictures using the software.


    Then post in this forum the URL it gives you for the picture you uploaded.


    For instance, this is a link to a picture of my 2001 Toyota Avalon (Black).



    Can't wait to see the pictures! Thanks!!!
  • Got to see one at the dealer today. An Limited. Unfortunately, it was sold, so I could not drive it. It was also inside a poorly lit showroom, so I did not get a real good look.


    The interior quality seemed quite good and the seats were very comfortable. Plently of room inside except for head room both front and rear. I know there were other posts from tall drivers claiming good headroom. Maybe I'm an oddly shaped 6'1", but my head hits the roof in the rear and had about 1" in the front. The reclining rear seat didn't help.


    The dealer assured me If I bought an XL or touring without a moonroof, I'd get another inch or so. Maybe in the front, but I doubt it would have much more in the rear.


    Quite a disappointment in a car this size.
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