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Could it be the trunk volume is less because of provision for the reclining back seats? That has been my suspicion all along--what else has changed? In which case, so what? I seldom need the space that's available in the 02.
Nice people to work with.
I got this quote yesterday but I needed more info so you folks could maybe help me out better. Here is what I got. A quote From Fleet Sales for a 05 Avalon Limited Base with added Dynamic cruise, Vehicle stability control, rear spoiler and floor mats for $33,988 + Tax and License and a $45. DMV doc fee. I said I just wanted the base Limited but he said ALL of the Limited's are coming in with the Dynamic cruise upgrade. This is N. Cal. Is this a good price or what can I say to do better?
Mackabee: That's right. The full-size spare needs a deeper well than the space saver. For a given rear clearance (under the trunk) and a given trunk lid height, a full-size spare will encroach 2 to 3 inches more into the trunk. Projecting this dimension across the area of the trunk yields approximately 2 cubic feet of trunk space. I stated this in my original post to rationalize the smaller-than-expected trunk volume.
"What about the previous generation Avalon? That one had a full size spare also."
Mackabee, I'm guessing that the previous generation car's trunk also could have been larger as well, if the spare were a doughnut.
Look, I'm an engineer, but I've never designed cars. I could be off base on this one, but I think the relationship makes sense. Of course, gas tank size, suspension, etc., enters into the equation as well. One way or the other, the car is a wonderful design.
Options include Navigation(NV), Laser Cruise(CL), Vehicle Stability Control(VD) and carpets(CF).
Max
Cherie1, please read post 3216 in which I answered your question on 03/20/05, which happened to be my birthday. We didn't ignore you.
MikeS.
MikeS.
I recently spoke with 1(800) go-toyota and they told me there are currently no plans yo offer VSC on XL or Touring until a complete model redesign. Maybe their response was just a corporate ploy to get us to buy their pricier models. If so, that is very lame.
I hope you're right about the Touring w/VSC because I prefer the Touring over all other models, but won't buy a car without VSC. Keep us posted.
Regards,
Deannie
I find the Avalon an awesome ride at 75mph !!!
I did enjoy. Have a great day.
RONN
42x42x14. Standard 43" driver in bag fits fine. Golf club, not midget.
Firstly, what is the reason that you should not go over 55 during the break in period ....what is the theory/rationale behind it
Secondly, I am interested in learning more about the bumper guards ie where did you get them and who did the installation.........I agree would love to see a pic
"42x42x14. Standard 43" driver in bag fits fine." -- groza.
groza's dimensions describe the largest single box that could pass through the trunk opening and fit inside the trunk. This box would measure 42" x 39" x 14", but a lot more room would remain for other items on either side and above such a box. I measured:
h = 20" for rear half of trunk, effectvely down to 17" under center speaker (JBL) and tapering down toward pass-through.
w = 62" behind wheels, tapering down to 39" between wheels.
d = 42"
havalong
"1. Certain nameplates are classified as "luxury nameplates," which means that all of the vehicles bearing that nameplate are classified by Edmunds.com as "luxury vehicles." This is a somewhat subject determination and is made by reviewing the brand's history, the promised level of dealer service, the available convenience and safety equipment offered, and the price range of its models. Generally, luxury brands are promoted as conducive to pleasure and comfort throughout the ownership experience."
It then lists the usual suspects, Acura, Audi, Rolls, etc.
"2. A model that bears a nameplate that is not otherwise classified as a luxury nameplate may be classified as a "luxury vehicle" typically based on the model's price. An example is Volkswagen's Phaeton."
One could easily make a good case to Edmunds.com that the Avalon has reached all of their requirements as a luxury vehicle, except the PRICE.
If the bumper guard seller's website has a picture of the bumper guards, could you post the link to the site?
MANY MANY service managers if you know them well enough WILL tell you that TODAY you can drive any speed you want during THE "BREAK IN"period and you won't hurt the engine as long as you have the correct amount of oil in it.
Yes I know it sounds like the raving of a lunatic
but it is true.
I can't stand to do it this way either as I come from the old school where it was drilled into our heads that it is as great a sin as not changing oil because it broke down from heat and would cause an engine failure.
Today there are long haul trucks THAT never change their oil.......It does not break down from heat, the problem comes from accumulation of metal fragments and etc.
BUT......... they have very expensive Filtering systems that remove the containments and they add
oil as needed to keep the Oil level correct.
WOW... how times do change!!!!!!
One more shock before I have to dodge the BULLETS from these statements.
You can set the cruse control and forget it during the first 1,000 miles. This statement is based on old technology. It was done to keep the rings and pistons from not breaking in correctly and leading to early problems from not being evenly polished or "taking a seat" as they called it.
These General statements are still being made today as it is hard to have "FAITH" in a service department that would make such statements on your New Baby. It is just a whole lot simpler to not try to explain why and what the suitation is today.
Now....You can tell me that I am crazy and an idiot and you will go on doing it the "old way...Me too... Just can't do it" and the old way will not hurt the car and make you feel like you have done your part to protect your investment.
You asked for an answer and this is it.
Absolutely right. And this has been the case with cars for years now because engine technology has advanced well beyond what it was a few decades ago. And for those who still worry about violating dated break-in rules, check your tachometer when you're driving at 70 mph. With overdrive you'll still be under 3000 rpm. And to the poster who changes the oil after the first 1000 miles: Why are you doing that? Surely you're not older than my 490 dog years.
And to Burl: Re older technology, in 1957 I bought a '55 Chevy with 28,000 miles on it. (It didn't have a heater or an oil filter.) It needed the engine rebuilt at 36,000 miles. Luckily I had purchased a warranty on the power train, but still had to argue with the company which, I swear, claimed that burning a quart of oil every 400 miles was normal.
groza
I marvel at the tolerance modern automotive engines have for abuse. But just about the only conditions they do still suggest are to avoid continuous single-speed operation and full-throttle acceleration, at least for a little while. I don't know why continuous operation at one speed would harm break-in, but I trust the manufacturers on that--their engines last so much longer than they used to.
For the older crowd, here is a recollection--my parents bought a new 1949 Plymouth. What agony--according to the book, for the first 2000 miles we could not exceed 35 mph without damaging bearings, rings, pistons. But we did it, and sure enough the car did not start drinking oil until well over 60,000 miles. Those were the days!
Now, what does the owners manual say about taking the plastic engine cover off? Or should I be afraid of doing it if Toyota doesn't say anything about it?
Groza
: )
Mackbee
The ones I purchased are called "Sport Bumper Guard Set".. Here is the link.
http://store.perfectcar.net/exterior-accessories--bumper-guards.html
Hope I helped. Good Luck.
Mackabee