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Infiniti M35/M45 2006+

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  • dgmoney1dgmoney1 Member Posts: 3
    I was sold on the 35 til I drove the 45 (sport). Much quieter ride, phenomenal engine, and only paid 4k more w/journey/tech package on both cars. Invoice was 51200 and I paid 51300. Similar equipped m35x was 47600. Sticker on the m45 sport with journey/tech was 56 and got close to 5k off. I have had the car a week and glad i paid the extra 4 k. I'll drive the car for 10 years so not a huge deal over that time period. It is much quieter, and is more fun to drive.

    Have had the
  • mwgmwg Member Posts: 28
    Can someone explain the VPP program to me? My company is listed as a participant but I can't get any information about how it works. What does it entitle you to? What do you have to bring to the dealer?

    Thanks,

    Emgee
  • networthnetworth Member Posts: 22
    You got the 45 sport with Tech and Journey for 51300? That's below invoice from the #'s I've been able to research. Looks like this should have run 56K plus at cost, more if you add navigation or dvd.

    I love the way the 45 rode and accelerated and would drive the car for a long time but it's still a lot of green for a car. Aren't the 35 and 45 essentially the same car with the exception of under the hood? The ride and quietness seemed to be about the same to me in the two. I'm just starting to get my research together and look for deals. Unfortunately only 1 dealership in the area and they aren't too motivated to move units less than MSRP.
  • lounacllounacl Member Posts: 27
    See here....VPP Program
  • lounacllounacl Member Posts: 27
    Where did you get your numbers from? On Edmunds, the M45S with Tech and Journey is 51,622 DC, and 56,500 MSRP. I actually got mine though the VPP program, but even without it dealers were offering a $3k discount off MSRP without negotiation. If your in the NE, I suspect you can do well, since most people are buying the M35x, and afraid of the gas prices.
  • networthnetworth Member Posts: 22
    You're right, I added a couple extra features apparently when I looked earlier, like nav and dvd which adds up quickly, putting MSRP at 60 even.

    Bottom line, how much off sticker are most getting for either the M35 or M45 since my local dealer thinks sticker is the price?
  • mwgmwg Member Posts: 28
    Thanks for the info on VPP.It was exactly what I needed. Unfortunately, I was mistaken and my company is not listed. Now I need to find a friend who is qualified.

    emgee
  • jperkins22jperkins22 Member Posts: 10
    I paid $750 over invoice for an M45 with the premium package. It was around $53,800.
  • blov8rblov8r Member Posts: 567
    I can't imagine that causing any harm to your engine. The engine's designed for high rpm's ... yes, break-in is wise to seat seals, etc ... but a short burst shouldn't hurt a thing. I remember in the good old days (of the muscle cars, late 50's through the 60's) we used to run a mile or two at top end every initial 100 miles to "loosen it up". Of course, that was in an entirely different era of totally different engines and technology ... but with those less sophisticated engines we did no harm.

    Bart :shades:
  • blov8rblov8r Member Posts: 567
    Local dealer claims they get sticker price.

    He's blowing smoke. I got $2500 off sticker the first week the M hit the market ~ April 1 last year. Read the posts here ... no one's paying near sticker. You can find the right price in ~ 5 minutes on this thread.

    What would I do differently? Probably gone for the base car w/ nav system, nothing more. I have everything (sport, journey, tech, etc) most of which is extraneous. But love the car!

    Bart :shades:
  • networthnetworth Member Posts: 22
    It's the same song and dance they tried to give me when I bought my G35 in '04. Didn't pay sticker then either. Lot of good detailed info on this thread and I'll use it when I decide on which car (35 or 45) and what features I want.
  • hithit Member Posts: 36
    Well.. after much thought I went to the dealership today to look at a new M45. I came in with the intention of just looking at the black exterier / burbon interior color combo.. i wanted to see how it would look and if i'd like it. I didn't. However.. they sold me on a fully loaded M45 Sport (tech, journey, spoiler, tints) Silver with black interior with wooden paneling. It was the car driven by the the owner of the dealership( as per them...) 2k miles, they gave it to me for the same price they were pushing the base m45 sport with just the journey package : $625 per month with 2800 total due at signing (taxes, fees and everything included) on a 24 month 12k miles lease. I'm picking it up on Thursday :D
  • undecided7undecided7 Member Posts: 92
    Another option to save lots of money on the M is to use the Costco Auto program. I saved thousands off window sticker without any hassles or haggling. No questions asked, just become a member of Costco, call the 800# for the nearest participating dealer, then go to the dealer and ask for the "costco price". It's that simple. Costco does a lot of verification that the dealer's honor their pricing in order to remain a member of the program.

    Check it out, it helped me save almost $3,000 on a brand new M35x black/black loaded.
  • networthnetworth Member Posts: 22
    Need some direction for those of you in the South East. The local dealer in B'ham holds a pretty firm line on MSRP. The best deal I've seen from them on an M45 is 500-750 under MSRP and I'm not paying that to anyone. Does anyone have a recommended dealer in the S/E area of the US they would recommend. I'm willing to go to Chattanooga, Atlanta even Houston if needed to find what I want at the right price.
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    Some messages had to be removed.

    We can't point others to specific salespeople - no names, no offers to email names, etc.

    It's okay to name a dealership and give a general location, but specific contact information of any sort can't be posted.

    Thanks.
  • networthnetworth Member Posts: 22
    I'll check them out. Is this the dealership north of town, towards Columbus near King's Island?
  • s54s54 Member Posts: 29
    you are correct - it is about 15 miles north of downtown Cincinnati. Tell him you heard about it on this forum. Jim
  • roload49roload49 Member Posts: 2
    Don't go to infiniti of Nashville. The staff is great BEFORE the sale. Their customer service AFTER the sale is zero attention. I even wrote a certified letter of concern to the General Manager who never called or answered my letter. :mad: OBTW the car is great. :D
  • s54s54 Member Posts: 29
    Anyone aware of current financing/leasing offers on 06 M's? Looking to purchase within the next ten days.

    Jim
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    Click on the link at the very top of the white part of the page that says Infiniti M35/M45. You'll be in our M35/M45 group and you'll see a leasing questions discussion as well as one on buying.

    You should see all the discussions that involve the M35/M45, at least that's what we're trying to do. ;)

    Good luck - keep us posted!
  • nissan_fan1nissan_fan1 Member Posts: 2
    I have an M35 sport and I was wondering if any M sport drivers have had any problems with the suspension?
  • networthnetworth Member Posts: 22
    Has anyone that is currently looking at the M45/M45 sport noticed the very limited availability of vehicles and those with various options available on the lots? I spent several hours last night searching through various dealers web sites at inventory and most have only 1 or 2 and they are all the same, ie; color and equipment. Is there something going on with production right now that has inventory low? I'm trying to find an M45 sport with Journey/Tech/XM and DVD and there isn't anything available. I don't want black and don't want the graphite interior. I'd prefer Diamond/Stone combo but unless I get it custom ordered (increased cost...??) there isn't anything available.
  • yeagerdayeagerda Member Posts: 16
    After owning my M45 for over a year (17k), yesterday the audio disappeared completely. The radio turns on (according to the display), I can see XM song titles displayed, but when I turn the volume knob the bar graph that normally shows up on the display does not appear. Also, trying to go to SETTINGS then anything audio related (phone, audio, et.), pressing the select button has no effect.

    The local Infiniti dealer has just acquired more territory and their service lead time is 2 weeks!

    Odd that this seemed to happen right after some Bluetooth connection, similar to joe10301.

    Anyone else with this kind of problem?

    Dave
  • blov8rblov8r Member Posts: 567
    You got a smokin' deal. That's only a little more than I'm paying for an identically equipped M35 ... all the add-ons. You win! Bart :shades:
  • blov8rblov8r Member Posts: 567
    Zero problems with mine. What are you being troubled by? Bart :shades:
  • blov8rblov8r Member Posts: 567
    Over a year? You must have had the first one delivered! I got one of the very first here in Tucson the first week in April ... admittedly we're a backwater town. Bart :shades:
  • jperkins22jperkins22 Member Posts: 10
    I bought my M45 in February and had the exact same issue that you had. All of the cars were Black, Liquid Platinum and had Graphite interior. My first choice was Umber Grey with wheat leather. I looked across the entire US and found one that I did not move fast enough. I settled on a Diamond Graphite with Wheat with the premium package that was 400 miles from where I live.
  • networthnetworth Member Posts: 22
    Did you just do periodic web searches to find your M? I've got a '04 G35 coupe that is Diamond Graphite with Willow interior (it's a bit darker than the wheat) that I'll end up trading on the M if/when I find it. It's hard to find a decent selection with the features I'm looking for. Maybe before they change out the model year....... :D
  • aas5aas5 Member Posts: 50
    I suggest ordering the exact car you want from the factory. It takes some time but at least you get what you want. Dealers also can be more aggressive with pricing on factory orders because it costs them next to nothing to finance the car as it spends no time on the floor.
  • networthnetworth Member Posts: 22
    A good idea and I had strongly considered doing just that and then I noticed the delivery truck dropping a number of new M's and G's and the local dealership yesterday evening. I went by there this morning to check out the new additions to inventory and found the M45 sport I wanted (with the exception of 1st color choice or aero kit). Tech/Journey, trunk mat and splash guards on a liquid platinum with Stone/Aluminum interior. Not bad looking and workable. List price, 56700, invoice 51780 and since the dealer has not realized any cost in this unit yet (hadn't even been cleaned from transport) no floor plan expense, etc I thought this a great opportunity.

    The dealer would only move 2K off list and attempted to lecture me on the "supply and demand" issue with a car this HOT. Never did quite get his point on why he wanted me to bend over on my '04 G35 Coupe trade but I'm sure it was in the equation somewhere as well.

    I left them with my offer good thru Monday only at invoice +1200 (plus some improvement on the trade quote of my G 35) which seems to fall somewhere within the range I see listed here although the dealers #'s fall more closely with the numbers posted on Edmunds.

    Thoughts or opinions by those on this forum? I'm not paying sticker for anything and I can drive my G for A LONG Time at this point. How is everyone else getting deals from 500 to 1000 over invoice on the car of their choice while Edmunds is reporting prices at 1,000-1,500 under MSRP?

    For those interested, Crown Infiniti in Birmingham is proud of their inventory. :shades:
  • rwhite4573rwhite4573 Member Posts: 1
    I just started looking at the M35. Nice Car! Buddy of mine works for Infiniti and said he could get it for invoice or 11% off MSRP. Has anyone heard of this.
  • 540dude540dude Member Posts: 38
    I got $1K over invoice for a totally loaded M45 Sport (all options except reav DVD) at Ramsey Infiniti in Ramsey, NJ.

    But in the NYC area, buyers have a distinct advantage--there are tons of Infiniti dealers. In Birmingham, there is probably only 1.
  • yak54yak54 Member Posts: 72
    What changes do you anticipaite for 07 to the M45 sport? Trying to wait to the fall.
  • docnukemdocnukem Member Posts: 485
    They might add some additional seat adjustments for the passenger, as that has been a big complaint.

    I would guess that they will change wheel styles, as that is a pretty common way to differentiate model years when there is little change otherwise.

    Colors may change slightly.
  • marksgimarksgi Member Posts: 3
    Hello, all....
    Live in chicago suburubs. Recently drove the M35x. Love it's looks but thought it not as quick as my Maxima and a bit noisier.

    I'm now contemplating spending the extra few grand for the M45 but want to drive it first. Have a few questions that hopefully another in my area can answer.

    1. What can I reasonably expect to pay for the 45 with journey and tech packages? (hate that I have to add the tech to get the better stereo!)I've seen postings of MSRP and a grand or so over invoice. Doesn't appear to be enough Infiniti dealers in Chicago.

    2. Is there a huge difference between the standard Bose and the Tech's surrond sound Bose? I paid for the upgraded Bose on my Maxima and ripped it out. Spent 2K on my own system and would hate to take a step down now.

    3. Any feedback on whether the 45x option vs. 45 is worth it from a traction standpoint?

    Thanks a ton
  • varixvarix Member Posts: 72
    I live in the Chicago area and bought an M35X, premium options in May from Fletcher Jones, got 2K off list but that was the best I could do then. Infiniti of Lisle wanted only MSRP so I left, also pushing colors on the lot, not willing to go get what I wanted. FJ was much friendlier but their service department is a bit sub par but tolerable. Maybe deals are better now, but you are correct, too few Infiniti dealers around Chicago. IMHO the Bose surround is wonderful but I am not a big time audiophile. Must admit I'd never ripped an original system out of my car so I might not be the best judge for your tastes! Finally I do not think an AWD M45 is an option (oh were it though!). It's RWD with RAS and that's it. I must admit with global warming and all maybe you don't need the AWD but I am sure they like it in Nebraska tonight. With the snow's in Chicago in December it held the road well but I think the Goodyear's that come with it need upgrading to get the best snow traction out of it. I did much better with my M35x in the the snow than my sister-in law and her RWD G35. She wishes she had waited for the G35x. I am almost 1 year & 13k miles into this car and love the experience of driving it every single day. You can't go wrong with either M!
  • networthnetworth Member Posts: 22
    Just picked up my M45 sport with Journey/Tech this afternoon. Still and will be trying to figure out all the features and options but this is an awesome car. Glad I got the 45 with the quiet ride and smooth handling. Traded an '04 G 35 Coupe so I was concerned about giving up the sport car feel and performance. Feel isn't as tight (or rough) but I'm not loosing anything on performance. Can't wait to master all the features.

    Does look like the headlights are out of alignment, with the drivers side being noticably lower than the passenger side so a quick stop by the dealer is in order.

    WOW. :surprise:
  • dubbdubb Member Posts: 20
    I went with the Tech package Bose 14 speaker system and I can't imagine now going with anything less. It JUST gets it for me.

    I've seen other postings where folks really thought there was a big difference in the base system and the Tech package upgrade.

    If you like sound, GET THE TECH, most definately (of course, I can't say whether you would end up rippin out the Bose 14 speak system eventually either...).

    - Kai
    M35x
  • marksgimarksgi Member Posts: 3
    glad you like it. mind if I ask where you bought and what kind of deal you got?
    thanks
  • marksgimarksgi Member Posts: 3
    Glad to hear you're happy. Can I ask where you purchased and what you paid?
  • networthnetworth Member Posts: 22
    Got the car at Crown Infiniti in Hoover (Birmingham) Al. Invoice was 51780 and I paid 52,580 after haggling for a couple days and "internet shopping" with a dealer in Atlanta. This is my 2nd purchase from this dealer and I've had to hold my ground on both purchases but have always been well prepared going in.
  • se5se5 Member Posts: 1
    Ed:
    I'm looking at the V-1 right now my M35x. Do you have any thoughts to share?
    Thanks, Scott
  • networthnetworth Member Posts: 22
    If it's not too far for you to go, I would recommend contacting Nalley Infiniti in Atlanta. The internet sales guy didn't even blink at 1K over invoice and was very accomodating. Alan Glass is his name, may be worth your time.
  • dubbdubb Member Posts: 20
    Don't mind at all.

    I paid a bit much I think - $53,442.00 including tax, delivery fees, plates, registration, etc. I purchased from Pepe Infiniti in White Plains, NY. I got an M35x (Black on Black) with both Journey and Tech packages + full size spare, wheel locks, and a DVD player in the front arm counsel (the latter two I believe come with the packages anyway). That deal included my 2000 Honda Accord trade-in allowance of @ $5,000. (which I felt wasn't so bad since the car had 107,500 miles on it).

    Pepe Infiniti was good. No-pressure, straight talkin' John McQuaide was the sales rep I dealt with mostly. (Good man). I shopped for seven months (and probably drove John crazy) before I bought an Oct. 2005-manufactured model in December 2005.

    In my mind, Pepe Infiniti was in stark contrast to Kings Infiniti of Brooklyn; those guys were NOT nice (at all). From my experience, Kings was just out to get the quickest deal they could without ANY attention (or respect) to you as a customer. They even wanted to hold my Honda Accord title to make sure I came back to follow up on the deal we talked about (!).

    In any event, while I paid a good amount, I am COMPLETELY satisfied with what I bought. I've had no problems with the car at all; and, I've had NONE of the issues that the other buyers on the board here who bought their cars at or around release time have complained about.

    I love driving the car (it's fun). It's the best car I've ever had. And, I love the stereo system. (I do wish they would put the right-left mirror switch ALONG-SIDE the swivel adjust. My thumbs are too big and I have to fumble around with my fingers too much. I also wish they would allow the steering wheel to come out and go down more. I'm still on the fence about the sixth gear issue, which is probably not such a big deal with a V-8.

    BUT, I LOVE THIS CAR.

    SO, Marksgi, I probably given you an ear full. But, if you're on the fence thought you would might like to know.

    - Kai
  • pete_l_ppete_l_p Member Posts: 322
    Does look like the headlights are out of alignment, with the drivers side being noticably lower than the passenger side so a quick stop by the dealer is in order.

    That's how it's supposed to be.

    The best headlight alignment for your visibility would tend to blind drivers in on coming cars. Infiniti, and most cars, keep the drivers side lower to reduce the effect on on coming cars. They keep the passenger side higher (improving visibility) since they can do so without affecting other drivers.

    Pete
  • fastpetefastpete Member Posts: 1
    I currently have a early build (6/05) M45 Sport (delivered 12/05) with a harmonic vibration in the drivetrain at 78 to 82 MPH that is felt though the steering wheel and in the rear seat area. The car has 3,100 miles on it and has been at the dealer for 5 weeks. They have been great by changing all the wheels and tires/changing the driveshaft and differential/completely checking the suspension settings. The problem still exists. The factory says it is not repairable
    I have driven the other M45 Sports in inventory and they all exhibit the vibration to some degree.
    Infiniti has asked my what do I want to do after 6ea Q45 Touring (the good ones)a FX35 and currently a FX45.
    Any one experience this vibration problem on the highway between 75 to 85? I commute 130 miles round trip each day and the vibration through the steering wheel gets old at the end of the day.......Yes I could drive faster but I would be in jail........or slower and I would be run over in Mass.
    I love the car but Infiniti cannot guarantee that another M45 will not do the same thing.
    Any one with a smooth M45 Sport or Lux at these speeds. Please advise when it was built.

    Thx for your help everyone.........Frustrated Fastpete
  • pete_l_ppete_l_p Member Posts: 322
    I have a premium rather than a sport so this may or may not be relevant. It might be relevant in that you might want consider a non-sport (which handles MUCH better than you would guess.)

    I travel at 80 all the time and have no harmonic distortion whatsoever.

    You might test drive a non sport for both the harmonic distortion and to see how good the handling really is on the turns.

    Pete
  • carnaughtcarnaught Member Posts: 3,552
    My M35 Sport (delivered 3/05) has NO harmonic distortion issues. My Acura TL (notorious for it) does.

    FWIW.
  • bw45sportbw45sport Member Posts: 151
    Sorry to hear about your problem Pete. With the number of Infiniti's that you've had in your personal inventory it sounds as if you are more than a little acquainted with their usual quality.

    I have a 45 sport, build date unknown, which I took delivery of the beginning of March 2005. I have not experienced the problem you describe. Other than the slightest movement in the driver's seat when stopping quickly, I have not experienced a single problem with the car.

    I would hope that they could get you another 45 without the problem until the new Q arrives in '09. From the description the owner of the local dealership has given me, the completely new Q will be one awesome automobile that will revive the original concept of the Q.

    Best of luck with the M until then.
  • blov8rblov8r Member Posts: 567
    From the description the owner of the local dealership has given me, the completely new Q will be one awesome automobile that will revive the original concept of the Q.

    This could be the start of something good. Three completely different Q's have left a wonderful car without an identity. Going "retro" to either of the first two styles and committing to it long term can make the car more desireable. It can be done ... it HAS been done successfully by marquis brands ... Lexus, MB, BMW, Porsche, Jaguar, even lowly Pontiac! Infiniti has started to do it with the G and M ... now do it with the Q and there will finally be an identity.

    For the record, my M35 Sport shows NO harmonic vibration at any speed.

    Bart :shades:
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