2016 BMW M4 Lease Questions

edmundsin33323

Hi - can someone help with residuals, lease rates/MF, and any rebates on a 2016 M4 for December?

10K/36m?

kyfdx

edmundsin33323 said:

Hi - can someone help with residuals, lease rates/MF, and any rebates on a 2016 M4 for December?

10K/36m?

.00131 MF and 56% residual for 39mo, 10K/yr. $1000 option credit + $500 Holiday adder.

eds15

Hi can you provide 24mo 10k and 12k rates with any promos so I can calculate a lease on a 2016 m4 convertible?  Thanks

kyfdx

eds15 said:

Hi can you provide 24mo 10k and 12k rates with any promos so I can calculate a lease on a 2016 m4 convertible?  Thanks

.00131 MF and 61%/60% residual. $1000 option credit + $500 Holiday adder

hpforlife

How much would it be to lease a 76,000 BMW M4 Automatic.
15k miles per-year
0 down
39 MONTHS
New Jersey

Thanks!

kyfdx

hpforlife said:

How much would it be to lease a 76,000 BMW M4 Automatic.
15k miles per-year
0 down
39 MONTHS
New Jersey

Thanks!

Need the MSRP and selling price to calculate a lease.

.00131 MF and 53% residual. $1000 option credit + $500 Holiday adder

hpforlife

kyfdx said:

hpforlife said:

How much would it be to lease a 76,000 BMW M4 Automatic.
15k miles per-year
0 down
39 MONTHS
New Jersey

Thanks!

Need the MSRP and selling price to calculate a lease.

.00131 MF and 53% residual. $1000 option credit + $500 Holiday adder

The MSRP and Selling price are $76,150

Michaell

hpforlife said:

How much would it be to lease a 76,000 BMW M4 Automatic. 15k miles per-year 0 down 39 MONTHS New Jersey Thanks!

Need the MSRP and selling price to calculate a lease. .00131 MF and 53% residual. $1000 option credit + $500 Holiday adder

The MSRP and Selling price are $76,150

 No discount from sticker, even with the incentives? 

 $1147 per month, plus tax 

blschaefer1

Hello, do you have any numbers (RV and MF) for January on a '16 M4 Coupe? Looking at 10k/year.


Thanks!

Michaell

blschaefer1 said:

Hello, do you have any numbers (RV and MF) for January on a '16 M4 Coupe? Looking at 10k/year.


Thanks!

.00132 and 60%. $1250 option allowance.

jackb6946

Hi - can someone help with residuals, lease rates/MF, and any rebates on a 2016 M4 automatic for January 2016?
Thanks!

10K/39m

kyfdx

jackb6946 said:

Hi - can someone help with residuals, lease rates/MF, and any rebates on a 2016 M4 automatic for January 2016?
Thanks!

10K/39m

.00132 MF and 60% residual for 36 month, 10K/yr. $1250 option allowance.

jackb6946

Is there any difference in the residual or money factor between a 2016 M4 convertible and a 2016 M4 coupe (both automatic)? For 36/10, January 2016. Thanks!

Michaell

jackb6946 said:

Is there any difference in the residual or money factor between a 2016 M4 convertible and a 2016 M4 coupe (both automatic)? For 36/10, January 2016. Thanks!

No difference.

.00132 and 60% for 36/10. $1250 option allowance.

jackb6946

is there any difference in the mf or residual in january 2016 between a 2016 model year M4 and a 2015? thanks

Michaell

jackb6946 said:

is there any difference in the mf or residual in january 2016 between a 2016 model year M4 and a 2015? thanks

MF is .00132 for both years.

36/15 residual:
2016 M4 - 57% and $1250 option allowance
2015 M4 - 54% and $1500 buildout allowance

hpforlife

Anyone have the numbers for February?

Michaell

hpforlife said:

Anyone have the numbers for February?

No change from January.

stevebro

Any March update on lease money factor and residual for 36-month / 12K miles on M4 Convertible? Thanks!

Michaell

stevebro said:

Any March update on lease money factor and residual for 36-month / 12K miles on M4 Convertible? Thanks!

.00135 and 59%. $1500 lease credit.

t6c

Do you have the March 2016 numbers for the 2016 M4 coupe? 36 mo / 10K. I noticed M3 residual took a dip (56% for 36 mo/10k + $3k build out allowance? or is that info for the 2015 model?). If the coupe residual is same as the convertible the M4 might cost less to lease than a M3... I am located in SoCal. Thank you!

Michaell

t6c said:

Do you have the March 2016 numbers for the 2016 M4 coupe? 36 mo / 10K. I noticed M3 residual took a dip (56% for 36 mo/10k + $3k build out allowance? or is that info for the 2015 model?). If the coupe residual is same as the convertible the M4 might cost less to lease than a M3... I am located in SoCal. Thank you!

.00135 and 60%. $1500 lease credit. Same for coupe and convertible.

edmundsin33323

I see where its much too early..but any word on MF/Residuals impact on the M4 once the M2 begins delivery next month?

Michaell

edmundsin33323 said:

I see where its much too early..but any word on MF/Residuals impact on the M4 once the M2 begins delivery next month?

No idea ... BMW doesn't usually alter residuals all that much, unless they are trying to move a particular model. Given that the M4 and M2 are limited edition, don't expect much of a change.

edmundsin33323

Michaell said:

edmundsin33323 said:

I see where its much too early..but any word on MF/Residuals impact on the M4 once the M2 begins delivery next month?

No idea ... BMW doesn't usually alter residuals all that much, unless they are trying to move a particular model. Given that the M4 and M2 are limited edition, don't expect much of a change.

thanks for the quick input!

edmundsin33323

Hi- what are the new April MF/Residual numbers for a 2016 M4 ? Any cash incentives?

thanks

Michaell

edmundsin33323 said:

Hi- what are the new April MF/Residual numbers for a 2016 M4 ? Any cash incentives?

thanks

.00135 MF is the same as last month.

What lease term and how many miles per year?

edmundsin33323

10k miles, 36/39 months?

Michaell

edmundsin33323 said:

10k miles, 36/39 months?

63% for 36/10.

39 month residual is far worse.

No lease incentives for April.

samirca

MF/residual numbers for 2016 M4 12000/36 and 15000/36. Thanks

Michaell

samirca said:

MF/residual numbers for 2016 M4 12000/36 and 15000/36. Thanks

.00135 and 62% / 60%

stevebro

Wow, residuals went up 3% over last month? That's great as mine is on order!

Michaell

stevebro said:

Wow, residuals went up 3% over last month? That's great as mine is on order!

But they dropped the lease cash to compensate.

stevebro

Thanks!

krishenzo1

Hi There. I am looking at a 2016 M4 Coupe right now, price $77,145. I am being quoted $5,666 down and $1,142/mo for 36 months, 12k miles. This includes $5,317 of excess equity on a current non-BMW lease the dealer will help me get out of early by buying out the car.

I don't know how to tell if this is a good deal - and if not, what ballpark I should be in? Any help would be appreciated. I assume I should be using a MF of .00135 and 62% residual.

Michaell

krishenzo1 said:

Hi There. I am looking at a 2016 M4 Coupe right now, price $77,145. I am being quoted $5,666 down and $1,142/mo for 36 months, 12k miles. This includes $5,317 of excess equity on a current non-BMW lease the dealer will help me get out of early by buying out the car.

I don't know how to tell if this is a good deal - and if not, what ballpark I should be in? Any help would be appreciated. I assume I should be using a MF of .00135 and 62% residual.

I confirm the .00135 and 62% for 36/12.

To clarify - you have $5317 of negative equity you are rolling into the M4 lease? If so, that alone is adding almost $150/mo to the payment.

How does the $5666 due at signing break down?

What state and tax rate is this?

Also, what is the negotiated price or adjusted cap cost? If we can figure out what the payment ought to be without the trade, it gives us a place to start.

krishenzo1

Thanks for the quick reply.

Yes, I have $5317 of negative equity rolling in. But to calculate this lease price let's exclude that.

I am unsure how the $5,666 breaks down number wise, but I know it includes: first month payment, doc fee, acq fee, registration, supp. title, tire tax, and NJ state tax.

NJ state, so 7% tax rate.

The price the dealer is offering is $77,145 (MSRP = $78,145). I have not attempted to negotiate this down yet. Edmunds TMV says the TMV in my area is $74,731. With this info, is it possible to approximate what a reasonable MSRP and lease payment should be for me to negotiate, excluding the negative equity of $5,317? I am aiming to put down no more than $4,500. Thank you.

krishenzo1

One more question to add...

I've been trying to use some online lease calculators, but am a bit confused. They ask for a down payment, which it seems most of these calculators deducts from the cap cost/sale price before calculating the monthly lease price. If my $ down includes what I said above (first month payment, doc fee, acq fee, registration, supp. title, tire tax, and NJ state tax), is it fair to assume that when I use these calculators I should only put first month payment amount as "Money Down" and not the entire amount? I ask because all the other components in my $ down are not part of the MSRP/selling price (I assume?) and should not be deducted from the sale price when I am trying to use these lease calculators to determine a fair price. Is this fair to assume? The difference skews the results I am seeing quite a bit.

Michaell

krishenzo1 said:

One more question to add...

I've been trying to use some online lease calculators, but am a bit confused. They ask for a down payment, which it seems most of these calculators deducts from the cap cost/sale price before calculating the monthly lease price. If my $ down includes what I said above (first month payment, doc fee, acq fee, registration, supp. title, tire tax, and NJ state tax), is it fair to assume that when I use these calculators I should only put first month payment amount as "Money Down" and not the entire amount? I ask because all the other components in my $ down are not part of the MSRP/selling price (I assume?) and should not be deducted from the sale price when I am trying to use these lease calculators to determine a fair price. Is this fair to assume? The difference skews the results I am seeing quite a bit.

That's correct - there is a difference between "Money Down" and "Amount Due at Signing" - the former should be deduced from the selling price when using calculators; the latter should not, as they are fees and taxes that don't change the net capitalized cost.

krishenzo1

Thank you. Any insight into my question above in the post starting with "Thanks for the quick reply."? Trying to figure out what is a competitive lease price for me to go back to the dealer with, assuming I pay 1st month, 389 doc fee, 925 acq fee, 244 registration, 60 supp title, 6 tire tax, and 7% NJ state tax up front.

Michaell said:

krishenzo1 said:

One more question to add...

That's correct - there is a difference between "Money Down" and "Amount Due at Signing" - the former should be deduced from the selling price when using calculators; the latter should not, as they are fees and taxes that don't change the net capitalized cost.

edmundsin33323

Below is a link to a spreadsheet you can take with you and run the calculations you need. Sheet2 explains how to use it. Hope it helps


https://www.dropbox.com/s/jlksj80qwx0v7pi/regm.xls?dl=0

i always bring my laptop to the dealer to double check the math.

krishenzo1

Thank you!

edmundsin33323

krishenzo1 said:

Thank you!

You're very welcome. These forums and Michael have always been helpful.

Good luck with your deal, and hopefully welcome to the M family.

krishenzo1

I hope to be in an M soon!

I have 'excess equity' on a current non-BMW lease I am in. The dealer will buy the car from my current leasing company but there's a ~$4K loss for me. Do I add this $4K loss to the cap cost/selling price of the car in my calculations? Or can I merely take the $4K, divide it by 36 and add it to my monthly lease price I calculate?

Also, any way to find out if NJ sales tax is paid up front and if so, what the tax # is based off of? Is it just the total lease payments (depreciation + interest charges)?

Michaell

krishenzo1 said:

Thanks for the quick reply.

Yes, I have $5317 of negative equity rolling in. But to calculate this lease price let's exclude that.

I am unsure how the $5,666 breaks down number wise, but I know it includes: first month payment, doc fee, acq fee, registration, supp. title, tire tax, and NJ state tax.

NJ state, so 7% tax rate.

The price the dealer is offering is $77,145 (MSRP = $78,145). I have not attempted to negotiate this down yet. Edmunds TMV says the TMV in my area is $74,731. With this info, is it possible to approximate what a reasonable MSRP and lease payment should be for me to negotiate, excluding the negative equity of $5,317? I am aiming to put down no more than $4,500. Thank you.

Sorry, I had a response all set up to this post yesterday, somehow I never clicked the right button to submit it.

With your prices, I get $967/mo before tax and negative equity is accounted for.

krishenzo1

I assume this is with first month + tax/fees only due at signing, correct? That's a few $ away from what I ended up calculating this morning, so this is great! Thank you so much! Fingers crossed, I will have a deal... Stay tuned. Thank you again.

mikc1

What is the residual for 36/10 on a M4 coupe and convertible?

Michaell

mikc1 said:

What is the residual for 36/10 on a M4 coupe and convertible?

.00138 and 62%

stevebro

Hi Michaell-

Do you have updated June lease numbers (residual & MF) on M4 Convertible?  36 month / 12k miles per year and same duration at 12k miles?

Thanks so much!

kyfdx

stevebro said:

Hi Michaell-

Do you have updated June lease numbers (residual & MF) on M4 Convertible?  36 month / 12k miles per year and same duration at 12k miles?

Thanks so much!

No change from May

stevebro

So that is .0138 MF and 60% residual for 12K miles? Or was the residual 62% at 12K miles? Thanks.