Destination Fee and Negotiations

I'm close to buying my 2016 Mazda CX-5 and I'm a bit confused about the base/sale price that people put on these boards.
Do you include the destination fee in the base/sale price of the vehicle?
It seems like some people get deals that are well below invoice and I am wondering if that price includes the destination fee. It seems like the number to throw at the dealer is at least $500 below invoice. Thanks!
Do you include the destination fee in the base/sale price of the vehicle?
It seems like some people get deals that are well below invoice and I am wondering if that price includes the destination fee. It seems like the number to throw at the dealer is at least $500 below invoice. Thanks!
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