Mazda3 Maintenance & Repair

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  • mdaffronmdaffron Member Posts: 4,421
    We forgot to debate whether rear disc vs. rear drum brakes are better for parking-brake performance!!!

    :O
  • zzz350zzz350 Member Posts: 44
    Always remove all the wheels and put your car on blocks whenever you park on a hill.
  • edgaremedgarem Member Posts: 58
    And remove the battery, in some neighborhoods.
  • mdaffronmdaffron Member Posts: 4,421
    It ain't worth the worrying! Buy a new one when you need to drive again.

    :D
  • mdaffronmdaffron Member Posts: 4,421
    Another detailed response to a reader's question. I applaud my fellow Edmundians for your thoroughness.

    Next?
  • mtlsatmtlsat Member Posts: 3
    I find that the interior door panels and dash get dirty real fast and I am having trouble finding something to clean the interior without leaving residue all over the black interior panels.
    Can anybody suggest a good method to clean these panels?
  • firstmazdafirstmazda Member Posts: 16
    I got this tip from a friend,
    what i do is keep a box of SWIFFER wipes in the huge glovebox.

    that way i can always wipe down the car without making it glossy like Armour All and all the other products do. (Good on the leather too, don't have to buy special 'leather wipes')

    My gf and I are smokers and like you said, this interior picks up every little speck of dust and ash but at a red light, i just reach in the box and do a quick wipe and it's like I just drove it off the lot again! The wipes pick up everythig REALLY well 'cause of that "static cling" thing.

    Try it out, I think you'd like it.
  • mtlsatmtlsat Member Posts: 3
    I'll try that, I tried baby wipes but they leave a bit of residue and I didn't like that. I'll have the wife buy some swiffer wipes and let you know how it plays out.
    Thanks
  • drdoowopdrdoowop Member Posts: 5
    Actually, if y'all will read your owner's manual:
    Don't use the parking brake in freezing weather as the parking brake may freeze."See page 4-9, "Winter Driving".
  • roger341roger341 Member Posts: 59
    Anyone know whether Mazda has a fix yet for the brakes?

    Seems to be lots of confusion about this. According to my dealer, they are not aware of anything from Mazda about a TSB or even a memo.

    After 3,000 miles the brake dust is almost gone but rear rotors have slight grooves. Fronts are totally smooth.
  • edgaremedgarem Member Posts: 58
    "Actually, if y'all will read your owner's manual:
    Don't use the parking brake in freezing weather as the parking brake may freeze."See page 4-9, "Winter Driving"."

    This Southern Canadian knows that one never uses a parking brake in winter - slush may freeze on the linkage. It is annoying dragging a wheel home on dry pavement.

    In winter, if on hills, y'all must park facing downhill, with the front wheels pointing to a light standard or hydrant. Up hill, I suppose you could use the tie-down hook if you came equipped with a chain or something.
  • edgaremedgarem Member Posts: 58
    I realize that this is off-topic but note that I keep changing my flag back to Canada, and it keeps reverting back. Consequently, the prior post may confuse my fellow parking experts if they think I am posting from Florida. My wife is US though, so maybe this is aManifest Destiny thing?
  • zzz350zzz350 Member Posts: 44
    Does anyone know where I can buy this wrench so that I can do my own oil changes? I understand that a special wrench is required to change the cartridge-type oil filter on this engine.
  • guestguest Member Posts: 770
    Once changing your flag, are you clicking on "set preferences"?
  • edgaremedgarem Member Posts: 58
    Thank you, KarenS. Periodic bouts of senility...............
  • flight13flight13 Member Posts: 47
    While test driving a Mazda3, the a/c was performing below average. After about 20 minutes though the A/C was blowing very cold. Was this just a break-in period or will it take that long every time the car has sat for awhile? It wasn't the intermitent temperature change previously discussed...I noticed that, but it wasn't an issue for me.
  • mdaffronmdaffron Member Posts: 4,421
    That's a very common occurrence with owners of new 3s and Proteges -- we long-timers here at Edmunds go through this every spring.

    Make sure the outside air/recirculate switch is on recirculate. Otherwise your system will be trying to cool and dehumidify 90-degree (or whatever) air all the time. In recirculate, the air it's cooling is getting progressively cooler. After four years (May 24) and 74,500 miles, my Protege's air conditioning is still working wonderfully. We've had a week of 90+ temperatures and high humidity here, and it's performing great even while I'm wearing a business suit.

    Meade
  • flight13flight13 Member Posts: 47
    I had it on recirculate, power level 4, A/C on...even the salesman that went on the drive with us said it was unacceptable. When we got back we had the service manager test the temperature. By the time he came out is when it was blowing cold...50 degrees. The car only had 4 miles on it when we took it out so that's why I was hoping it's just a breaking-in situation and not something that will take that long every time.
  • zzz350zzz350 Member Posts: 44
    Anyone know where I can buy the special wrench required for doing my own oil changes? I understand the the cartridge oil filter needs a non-standard oil filter wrench, is that correct?
  • zoo7374zoo7374 Member Posts: 1
    I just bought my Mazda 3 and the first thing i noticed during that first week of driving was the large amount of brake dust from the rear brakes. I now am going to have them check my pads out since you have had the same problem.
  • rlm111rlm111 Member Posts: 2
    I just bought my mazda3 a few days ago, and had problems starting it up while the dealer was giving me the run-through before I drove it off the lot (I shrugged it off at the time...) It's continued almost ever since. It's definitely embarrassing- brand new car, lots of $$$, can't start it- how dumb. I will try the "temporary fix" which my father also suggested- he turns the key to the on position and waits for a few seconds before starting the ignition on his diesel truck. So you all suggest attempting to get a new fuel pump? Even if the shop can't "reproduce the problem" I guess at least the dealer will have to vouch for me.
  • edgaremedgarem Member Posts: 58
    Your father's diesel is designed to start with a pause. Your 3 should start immediately - after four months, mine has always started on the first crank - immediately.

    The problem is almost surely the pump - a number of posts describe it. Any dealer who says it is normal to start this way is lying, because they must have encountered it before. If they don't respond, call Mazda - they are aware of it.
  • creakid1creakid1 Member Posts: 2,032
    In addition to using synthetic Mobil-1 0W-40 on newer engines & Castrol Syntec 5W-50 on older engines, I also want to share my "additive" experiences:
    creakid1 "Mazda3" May 16, 2004 12:46am
  • conallconall Member Posts: 91
    Anyone had problems with cloth seats wearing or know what to do about it? I've put Scotchgard on them, but only after the unusual wear on the back and seat surfaces of the driver's seat. I'm a welter-weight so it has nothing to do with my weight.
  • conallconall Member Posts: 91
    Anyone had problems with cloth seats wearing or know what to do about it? I've put Scotchgard on them, but only after the unusual wear on the back and seat surfaces of the driver's seat. I'm a welter-weight so it has nothing to do with my weight.
  • flight13flight13 Member Posts: 47
    I have not yet purchased the Mazda3 but noticed the A/C issue while test driving. I posted on this board about it but no real responses. It was about 87 degrees during my test drive and I had the A/C on high and on recirc. My wife, salesperson and I all agreed the temperature blowing was probably around 70 degrees. We drove for around 15 minutes with no improvement. When we got back we took the car to service to have it inspected. It sat running for probably 10 minutes before the service manager came out with a temperature sensor. By this point the air was blowing very cold and registered 50 degrees. Since it was now blowing the way it should, I figured it was just the car breaking in. I was hoping current owners could verify if they get cold air immediately or do they get cool air for the first 20-30 minutes. My car is supposed to arrive some time this week so please post your experiences. Thanks!
  • creakid1creakid1 Member Posts: 2,032
  • z71billz71bill Member Posts: 1,986
    Let me guess - the car was in the shade when the car finally got cool.

    The AC is a problem - IMO a major problem - if you live in an area that gets hot - Do not buy the Mazda3 until this issue gets fixed. Unless of course you like sweating while you drive. The AC will cool the car - if it is in the shade like if the sun is behind a cloud or at night. But when above 85 degrees & in the sun the car never cools down.

    I put a digital meat thermometer in the center vent - when I first start the car the air temp drops all the way down to 40 degrees - for about 5 seconds - then the air temp quickly jumps to around 48 - and stays between 54 and 59 degrees (depending on outside temperature). Some days it will hold between 48 and 54. Even with this cold of air the car stays sweaty hot.

    This will be my 1st and last Mazda product - Having customer service tell me to go see the states attorney general as a way to get rid of me without solving my AC problem is reason enough for me to never buy another Mazda product. This is in some ways more of a problem then the AC issue. If a company will at least work with you to solve an issue - I could live with that.
  • conallconall Member Posts: 91
  • npaladin2000npaladin2000 Member Posts: 593
    Dude, I realize the A/C is a problem. I'm a little worried about it too, because it can get pretty steamy up here in NY. But what EXACTLY do you expect them to do? Fix it? That's why they're having their engineers research it, so they can figure out exactly HOW to fix it! You have to remember that to fix something, you have to KNOW HOW TO FIX IT. They have to find out if it's a compressor capacity issue, or if there's a leak in the A/C coolant system or something...you know, product defect versus misassembly? Then figure out what they can put in that will make it better, then either make or obtain the parts, then start distributing them.

    Just take some comfort in the fact that they ARE working on it. Technically, they could just say it's "working as designed" and leave you to sweat, while quietly making a modification for the next model year vehicle. So give them some time to figure out exactly what's wrong with the system and come up with a fix. It's not like they can wave a magic wand and give you instant arctic temperatures you know.

    I'll tell ya, if someone asked me what I'm gonna do about their computer not working right, I'd tell them I'd have a look at it and try and figure it out so i can fix it. If they asked "well, what are you going to do for me in the meantime?" I'd probably flip out on them. Which is what Mazda did. Give them a chance to look at the problem and figure out what's going on. They're not trying to get rid of you, they're trying to tell you to give them time to work on it. That "work with you" bit works BOTH ways...you have to be willing to work with them too, not just start demanding a solution that doesn't even exist yet.

    2 other things. 1: So far I'm not having any AC trouble. It's been up above 85 here, and sunny.

    2: "Specialist, Customer Assistance E-Business" is a euphemism for "e-mail help desk answerer." She's just giving you the Mazda line she got through her chain of command. It is NOT her personally that's going after you. And it would be wrong to take out your frustrations with Mazda on her.
  • z71billz71bill Member Posts: 1,986
    OK - I understand your point - but if you have a defective computer do you keep selling them while you try and figure out what the problem is?

    Do you think they have even told the dealerships that they have a problem?

    How many people will buy a Mazda3 this week only to find out that the AC is underpowered?

    What we don't know is how long Mazda has known about the problem - could be a few days or a few months. But telling a customer to go see the Attorney General is - by any measure of customer service - a poor business practice. It leads me to think that they already know what the problem is & that the cost to fix it is high enough that they are planning on NOT fixing the problem.

    Mazda could have (at least)offered to get back to me once the engineers have determined what the problem is. If they have a solution to put me at the front of the line to get my car fixed.

    OR

    Even if they determine that the AC is "good enough" - that they are not going to provide any repair - they could have at least gotten back to me and told me that.
  • npaladin2000npaladin2000 Member Posts: 593
    "Mazda could have (at least)offered to get back to me once the engineers have determined what the problem is."

    They did. That was the point of the first e-mail they sent you. When you sent another one (likely intended as a genuine request for additional information, I admit) it probably came off as they weren't working fast enough and it should be fixed yesterday...you know, the kind of pushy customer no one wants to put up with. So I bet the poor lady answering your e-mail got a bit annoyed. ;) I would have, if I was her.

    Incidentally, I WOULD immediately start using different parts in the computers to fix the problem...as soon as I figured out which ones were the cause, through a rigorous testing process (see "Engineers researching").

    Believe it or not, by continuing to sell the Mazda3, they may be ACCELERATING finding the cause and coming to a solution. It means more examples of the thing are out there, so more data can be gathered on exactly what circumstances are causing the failure, etc. It MAY only be limited to a specific production run of Mazda3s. Or it MAY be limited to a specific production run of A/C compressors that were put into Mazda3s.

    Speaking of which, do you know what the production date of your car was? I've heard the ones from 10/03 tend to be more trouble-prone than others.
  • z71billz71bill Member Posts: 1,986
    My manufacture date is 10/03.

    I see this situation completely differently. I was direct in my request for action - but not rude or profane.

    What a good customer service person should do is ask the unhappy customer what they can do to solve the problem - many times what the customer wants can be provided. Once in a while the customer will ask you for something that is not possible - and you need to tell them - no I can't do that - but I CAN DO THIS. Just saying we are aware of the problem does nothing. Telling a customer to go to the attorney general is a horrible excuse for good customer service.
  • npaladin2000npaladin2000 Member Posts: 593
    Basically, in her position, all she could say is that it's being worked on and when they have a solution they'll make it available. It's broke, they know it's broke (you have the e-mail as proof, in case you DO decide to pursue legal action). They have people working on the problem. I realize you're unhappy about the A/C, and if it's getting that hot in there, I don't blame you. But what exactly do you want them to DO?? Other than "fix it" which, like I said, they're working on. A month from now, if you e-mail them and get the same bit about engineers working on it, then you probably have a good case to take to the attorney general, by the way.

    Come to think of it, what have YOU done? Did you put a sunshade in the car while it's parked to reduce the effects of the sun while the car sits? How many times have you taken it to the dealer to fix the A/C issue? If the dealer's DON'T know about it, you have an advantage, and then you might want to examine the lemon laws in your state. Usually they're similar to a "3 strikes and you're out" thing...if the dealer can't fix it after 3 tries, then they're supposed to exchange it for a different vehicle of the same model. Tends to be easier said than done, but it's an option.

    And like I said, I seem to hear about a comparitively greater amount of trouble with the 10/03 run of cars...if you get a newer one it might not have the same issue.

    Sorry if I seem to be making a major point of this, but I work with call center guys a lot, and I work in support, only it's PCs and networks rather than cars. I know how the other side of your problem can feel. They're doing the best they can, and it can get very frustrating. If you want to take it out on anyone, take it out on the engineers who are "working on it" who probably aren't giving her enough information to give you a clearer answer.
  • z71billz71bill Member Posts: 1,986
    I took it to the dealer - they checked the system - when they called to tell me my car was done - and could find any problem - I talked to the service manager - he had the car checked a second time - still no problem. It is working as designed. They gave me the Mazda 800 number.

    I did plan on taking the car back to the dealer -on a nice hot sunny day so that I could take a sweaty test drive with the service manager. But have not had the time to do this yet.

    Have not used a sun shade, but I park in a garage most of the time - so I am not even in the sun - it does not make any difference - the AC still does not cool.

    I have tried all the little tricks to get the car to cool better - they help - but do not solve the problem - The temperature has not even been over 90 degrees - I should not need to do anything except turn the AC on -
     
    Lemon law in Texas is 2 strikes (same problem) in 12 months / 12,000 miles - then 2 more strikes (same problem)within 12 months 12,000 miles of the second problem - but Mazda is not part of the BBB car problem program. That means in order to use the Lemon law with Mazda you need to get an attorney. Like I have said before - by the time you pay for an attorney you would be money (and time & trouble) ahead to just go trade it in.
  • rinebirdrinebird Member Posts: 83
    I have a lot of black greasy brake dust on my back hub caps .I called the dealer, she told me on this is normal for the car. I have 300 miles on a the i sedan? How did you make out?
  • aric214aric214 Member Posts: 20
    I have a 3i that I bought in january and i've still been noticing a lot of brake dust in the rear. The car has about 5400 miles on it. I called my dealership and informed them of the problem and they said they are aware of it and have already checked out 7 or 8 of them. He said they have found nothing wrong, and, for some reason, it is typical and nothing to be alarmed about (apparently, it's not messing up the pads or anything).

    I'm not sure if I buy that, but the next time I go have checkup, I'll definitely ask about it again. And that damn Airbag light near the shift knob. It keeps going on and off, and recently hasnt turned off. I'm sure people have had problems about that, any news? thanks.
  • rinebirdrinebird Member Posts: 83
    Thanks for the reply. Is your brake dust real greasy and black like soot?
    The airbag light .It is to go on while starting the car but should go off. Not good is it doesn't.If there is any weight put on the seat under 65 pounds(passenger seat) that may make it go on.I was told that yesterday.My dealer was to check it but mine goes off. I emailed mazda about the brake dust ( I call it grease) How do you clean it?
  • gdzlla13gdzlla13 Member Posts: 14
    Can anyone confirm that this is something that only happens with the earlier production models? Just curious.
  • redpr5redpr5 Member Posts: 23
    Our new 3 hatchback has the brake dust problem on the rear wheels too. They must use a different types of pads for the rear and front. Our 2002 Tribute had this brake dust problem on the front wheels. Cleaning with car wash soap and water will take the dust off, however it will be back within a few days. Our Tribute, which we traded in on the 3, had 35,000 miles on the brakes with about 50% life left and were still continuing to put out dust. So I don't think this problem is going to go away until you put new pads on the back.
  • z71billz71bill Member Posts: 1,986
    Based on what Mazda is telling me - they have not made any changes in the AC system. So at this point all models are the same.

    Yesterday the afternoon temperature was between 88-89 degrees - and it was mostly sunny - The heat index was 100. I expected to suffer in a hot car - but for most of the day the AC worked good. At times I even turned the fan down to level 2. For a while I thought that maybe whatever was wrong with my AC had somehow fixed itself. But then later in the day I experienced two situations where the AC was back to blowing barely cool rather than cold air. So whatever the problem is I still have it.

    In my experience this is the worst type of problem - some times it works - sometimes it doesn't. I would rather have it just break and not cool at all - then I could at least get it fixed.

    I have owned the Mazda3 for 4 months / 3,700 miles - I have had 4 trips to the dealer

    1 for AC & brake problem
    1 for brake problem and check engine light
    1 for check engine light - only talked about AC
    1 for check engine light and oil change

    Also - 2 calls to Mazda's 800 number and 3 E-mails from customer service.

    The strange thing is even after all of these problems I still really like the Mazda3 - but if you must have a new car that is (mostly) problem free I would wait until the next model year - maybe by then they will have worked out some of these bugs.
  • aric214aric214 Member Posts: 20
    Like redpr5, I just wash them when I wash my car with soap and water. It comes off rather easy, but yeah, comes back on within a few days. I would say mine probably matches your description of the dust. It doesn't look so nice but at least it isn't doing major harm to our brakes.
  • gazelle2gazelle2 Member Posts: 38
    I now have 7700 miles on my hatchback and have been driving on some somewhat hot NJ spring days. The AC has been fine. In fact I find that I have to turn it down to level 1 after starting on level 2, because it begins to feel too cool. I notice that adjusting the vents to blow directly has a big effect on my comfort level. I wouldn't damn the MZ3 on the basis of this problem anyway. It's been a fabulous car for me so far. If there is indeed a serious issue with a major component, I'd imagine they'd issue a recall and provide a fix. they're trying so hard to capture a bigger chunk of the market from Honda and Toyota that they'd be crazy to allow an issue like this drive away potential buyers.
  • cdnp5cdnp5 Member Posts: 163
    I know on some long hwy trips (the only time I actually use my air) I've had the a/c feel like it stopped blowing cold air. I would just turn off the a/c switch for approx 2 mins and then turn it back on again and the cold air would return. I've heard this happens with other new cars also and wonder if this could be your problem also? I don't know what its called but its like the a/c "freezes" up from all of its own cold air.
  • solidsnake007solidsnake007 Member Posts: 13
    I believe the Mazda6i has the same type of Cartrdige oil filter that the Madza3s has. But I may be mistaken. The Mazda3i has a much easier to change spin-on/screw-on type. I think you can actually convert 3s cartridge oil filter to a spin-on type. Take a look at this link, it shows how to convert a cartridge filter on a Mazda6i to a spin-on filter. If the 3s does have the same type of layout as in the link I will provide, then I would recommend that you 3s owners do this.

    http://www.mazda6tech.com/index.php?option=content&task=view&- amp;id=47&Itemid=57
  • mz3ctmz3ct Member Posts: 23
    I have 2,300 miles on my titanium gray 5-door, build date 03/04. With the exception of the airbag sensor coming on with somebody in teh passenger seat, I have had no problems whatsoever with the MZ3. I love it - it's the best car I've driven and owned. I sold my v-6 accord and the 3 outperforms it in every way, even the engine. Even loaded up, there's no drag like other "compacts". I have to young kids who fit great, front and rear-facing. There is lots of room in this vehicle, particularly hip, side and head. Even the rear seats are roomy with tons of toe room to extend your legs. Mazda really has won me over - the interior matches the exterior in class and looks. I have noticed a slight vibration in the door and a few rattles from the passenger seat, but nothing worth taking it in for. I think this is one of the best new cars ever made, designed, etc...it's unequaled for the price! p.s. AC is great - I agree with gazell2
  • ksargentksargent Member Posts: 31
    Hi all,

    I am also having an inordinate amount of brake dust on the rear wheels as well as early rotor wear. I had the dealer check it yesterday and they agreed that the rotor wear was not acceptable and offered to install new rotors. After some discussion, I elected to hold off on the rotor replacement and give Mazda some time to get to the root of the problem. My thinking - if the root problem is not fixed, then the new rotors will wear as well. The service manager told me that they could replace the rotors anytime up to the the first 12K miles. So I decided to wait it out for a while - knowing that I have the option of having them replaced at any time.

    Regarding the A/C - I live on the Gulf Coast of Florida and don't find the A/C to be any less effective than my Protege5. It's not the best I've ever had, but it is adequate. The points of about using Recirculate to cool the car are correct - however, I would drive for a bit with the A/C on fresh and the windows down when the car has been sitting in the sun. After the hot air has exchanged out of the car, then raise the windows and turn on Recirc. My experience is that you don't have to leave it all the time - once the car has cooled down, the regular fresh setting is fine. And I should add that I am very warm-natured. My build date is 03/04 - 700 miles so far.

    Ken
  • ksargentksargent Member Posts: 31
    I should add to the above post - some have speculated that the rear dust/rotor wear is attributable to ABS/EBD. I have 4 wheel disc brakes, so it apparently is unrelated to EBD.

    Ken
  • z71billz71bill Member Posts: 1,986
    You could be right about the AC problem - the worst performance was on a 50 miles highway trip - the car got so hot we actually turned the AC off and opened the windows for a few miles. Every other car I have ever owned the AC performance was better at highway speeds.
  • flight13flight13 Member Posts: 47
    I test drove a 3rd 3 yesterday and it had the same A/C problem. I mentioned it to the salesman and he too agreed with me. He actually said his wife owns one, they all say that for some reason, and that he noticed it on her's and that he was planning on bringing it in to service to see if there was something they could do. We grabbed a temperature gauge from service and stuck it in the vents and went for a drive. Averaged around 54 degrees...which seems to me like it should feel very cold but it didn't. It was about 79 degrees outside and the car was not that hot inside but the air only felt cool coming out of the vents. Unfortunately I think this is enough to kill the deal for me.
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