2016 Infiniti Q70 Lease Questions

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  • jhcsjhcs Member Posts: 26
    Hello. I would like to get the
    MF
    Residual%
    current incentives offered
    Should maintenance be covered for term of the lease?

    for a39month 15k mile year Q70 lease.
    MSRP is $54,260, Selling price is $46,575 and Net Cap price is $48,170. I am putting no money down.

    Also, is there anything else that I should consider as I look at this lease?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 263,018
    jhcs said:

    Hello. I would like to get the
    MF
    Residual%
    current incentives offered
    Should maintenance be covered for term of the lease?

    for a39month 15k mile year Q70 lease.
    MSRP is $54,260, Selling price is $46,575 and Net Cap price is $48,170. I am putting no money down.

    Also, is there anything else that I should consider as I look at this lease?

    SWB or LWB?
    V6 or V8?
    RWD or AWD?

    Infiniti does not cover maintenance.
    We don't have incentive information for Infiniti.

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  • jhcsjhcs Member Posts: 26
    it is a base model, RWD V6 thanks
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 263,018

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  • nicksmu17nicksmu17 Member Posts: 187
    whats money factor and residual for q70L and q70. 39/10k months if thats the sweet spot. AWD both engines in IL? Thanks.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 260,505
    nicksmu17 said:

    whats money factor and residual for q70L and q70. 39/10k months if thats the sweet spot. AWD both engines in IL? Thanks.

    V6 - .00003 and 50%
    V8 - .00035 and 46%
    V6L - .00006 and 51%
    V8L - .00076 and 48%

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  • lkorty_lkorty_ Member Posts: 27
    Hello,
    What is MF and residual on AWD V6 short, 24mo/12k and 24mo/15k?
    Thank you
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 260,505
    lkorty_ said:

    Hello,
    What is MF and residual on AWD V6 short, 24mo/12k and 24mo/15k?
    Thank you

    .00011 and 54% / 52%

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  • alfstinky1alfstinky1 Member Posts: 92
    What is MF and residual on AWD V6 short, 39/10K. Thank you!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 263,018

    What is MF and residual on AWD V6 short, 39/10K. Thank you!

    .00011 MF and 49% residual

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  • kdubdub30kdubdub30 Member Posts: 7
    Hello,

    2016 Q70L (3.7)
    Sticker: $54,280.00
    Sale Cost: $49,154

    Residual: 51%
    Money Factor: 0.00064
    CA

    Proposed Lease:
    0 Down
    36 months
    Prepaid Maintenance Included (1500)
    12K miles per year

    Lease cost: 657.00 + Tax

    Thanks again for analysis/feedback!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 263,018
    kdubdub30 said:

    Hello,

    2016 Q70L (3.7)
    Sticker: $54,280.00
    Sale Cost: $49,154

    Residual: 51%
    Money Factor: 0.00064
    CA

    Proposed Lease:
    0 Down
    36 months
    Prepaid Maintenance Included (1500)
    12K miles per year

    Lease cost: 657.00 + Tax

    Thanks again for analysis/feedback!

    V-6, RWD, right?

    You can get the same MF and residual for 39 months.
    That would save you $47/mo.

    Otherwise, the numbers look about right.

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  • kdubdub30kdubdub30 Member Posts: 7
    Yes on V6 and RWD. How much more do you think I can push on this approaching year's end. Any other approaches on reducing the monthly outside of going to 39 months? Truly looking for a spectacular deal. Thanks again!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 263,018
    kdubdub30 said:

    Yes on V6 and RWD. How much more do you think I can push on this approaching year's end. Any other approaches on reducing the monthly outside of going to 39 months? Truly looking for a spectacular deal. Thanks again!

    Have no idea on pricing, but when was the last time you saw one of these on the road? I have to believe it's a tough sell. Bargain hard.

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  • kdubdub30kdubdub30 Member Posts: 7
    Good point. Here is the new Natl Offer that just came out. 39 months


    Excludes, taxes, title & license. Retailer participation required. $4,799 initial payment required at consummation (includes $4,320 consumer down payment, $479 first month payment). 2016 Q70L 3.7 with Premium Package subject to availability to well-qualified customers who finance their lease through Infiniti Financial Services. Subject to credit approval. MSRP $52,255 includes destination charge. Net capitalized cost of $44,091 includes a $700 non-refundable acquisition fee. Retailer contribution may affect actual price set by retailer. Monthly payments total $18,681. At lease end, purchase for $27,173 plus $300 purchase option fee (except KS & WI) plus tax, or pay excess wear & use plus $0.25/mile for mileage over 10,000 miles/year. Lessee is responsible for maintenance and repairs. Disposition fee due at termination of lease. No security deposit required. Must take delivery from new retailer stock. See participating retailer for details. Offer ends 01/03/2017. Supplies of vehicle may be limited in some regional areas. Retailer inventory varies. Subject to residency restrictions.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 260,505
    kdubdub30 said:

    Good point. Here is the new Natl Offer that just came out. 39 months


    Excludes, taxes, title & license. Retailer participation required. $4,799 initial payment required at consummation (includes $4,320 consumer down payment, $479 first month payment). 2016 Q70L 3.7 with Premium Package subject to availability to well-qualified customers who finance their lease through Infiniti Financial Services. Subject to credit approval. MSRP $52,255 includes destination charge. Net capitalized cost of $44,091 includes a $700 non-refundable acquisition fee. Retailer contribution may affect actual price set by retailer. Monthly payments total $18,681. At lease end, purchase for $27,173 plus $300 purchase option fee (except KS & WI) plus tax, or pay excess wear & use plus $0.25/mile for mileage over 10,000 miles/year. Lessee is responsible for maintenance and repairs. Disposition fee due at termination of lease. No security deposit required. Must take delivery from new retailer stock. See participating retailer for details. Offer ends 01/03/2017. Supplies of vehicle may be limited in some regional areas. Retailer inventory varies. Subject to residency restrictions.

    The $4320 down payment equates to $111/mo, so the true payment is $590/mo, which doesn't seem all that great on a $52K vehicle

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  • kdubdub30kdubdub30 Member Posts: 7
    Hi there,

    Looking to a deal on this car tomorrow. Below was my previously negotiated deal that I'm looking to improve on. To help my negotiations, since we're at the point of "Ok, what do we need to do to earn your business" and "name your number"….I was hoping if you could rate the below? i.e. Fair, Good, Great, Exceptional etc. My goal of course is to get an coming up with an exceptional lease number, so you're help would be greatly appreciated in helping get to an exceptional number


    2016 Q70L (3.7)
    Sticker: $54,280.00
    Sale Cost: $49,154

    Residual: 51%
    Money Factor: 0.00064
    CA

    Proposed Lease:
    0 Down
    36 months
    Prepaid Maintenance Included (1500)
    12K miles per year

    Lease cost: 657.00 + Tax

    Thanks again for analysis/feedback!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 263,018
    kdubdub30 said:

    Hi there,

    Looking to a deal on this car tomorrow. Below was my previously negotiated deal that I'm looking to improve on. To help my negotiations, since we're at the point of "Ok, what do we need to do to earn your business" and "name your number"….I was hoping if you could rate the below? i.e. Fair, Good, Great, Exceptional etc. My goal of course is to get an coming up with an exceptional lease number, so you're help would be greatly appreciated in helping get to an exceptional number


    2016 Q70L (3.7)
    Sticker: $54,280.00
    Sale Cost: $49,154

    Residual: 51%
    Money Factor: 0.00064
    CA

    Proposed Lease:
    0 Down
    36 months
    Prepaid Maintenance Included (1500)
    12K miles per year

    Lease cost: 657.00 + Tax

    Thanks again for analysis/feedback!

    The 39 month program has the same lease variables, and would probably drop the payment by $50/mo.
    I'd start there.

    We don't track pricing. You can use the Make/Model/Year tabs at the top of the page to get Edmunds TMV price, and see how that matches up.

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  • needmorespeedneedmorespeed Member Posts: 3
    edited March 2017
    Can you tell me the residual value/money factor for the 2016 q70 and q70l v6 awd with premium/tech package for 24 mos/10k miles? Thanks in advance.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 263,018

    Can you tell me the residual value/money factor for the 2016 q70 and q70l v6 awd with premium/tech package for 24 mos/10k miles? Thanks in advance.

    .00189 MF and 49% residual
    50% for LWB

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  • daves_q70daves_q70 Member Posts: 9
    Got an offer on a 2016 Q70L Premium w/ Nav, V6 RWD, $5k down, $497/month which includes taxes/fees, $22,845 residual. So its a leftover but seems like a good deal.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 260,505
    daves_q70 said:

    Got an offer on a 2016 Q70L Premium w/ Nav, V6 RWD, $5k down, $497/month which includes taxes/fees, $22,845 residual. So its a leftover but seems like a good deal.

    What does the $5000 at signing cover?

    What is the MSRP and adjusted cap cost?

    What state and tax rate?

    RWD or AWD?

    Without that information, we can't tell you if it's a good deal or not.

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  • daves_q70daves_q70 Member Posts: 9
    In TX, 6.25%, RWD V6. MSRP on the car was $53,130, dropped it down to $38,800. The $5k total down covers TT&L. So with lease payments, $5k down minus $2425 taxes I am into it for $44,837. (497.88 x 39 mos., 10,000 miles per year, total lease payments + $5k down = $24,417.32, then that minus $2425 taxes = $21,992.32, then that plus $22,845 = $44,837.32 I would actually pay for the car if I kept it after 39 months.) So I guess in reality I am putting down $5k - $2425 in tax which is $2575.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 260,505
    Michaell said:

    daves_q70 said:

    Got an offer on a 2016 Q70L Premium w/ Nav, V6 RWD, $5k down, $497/month which includes taxes/fees, $22,845 residual. So its a leftover but seems like a good deal.

    What does the $5000 at signing cover?

    What is the MSRP and adjusted cap cost?

    What state and tax rate?

    RWD or AWD?

    Without that information, we can't tell you if it's a good deal or not.
    daves_q70 said:

    In TX, 6.25%, RWD V6. MSRP on the car was $53,130, dropped it down to $38,800. The $5k total down covers TT&L. So with lease payments, $5k down minus $2425 taxes I am into it for $44,837. (497.88 x 39 mos., 10,000 miles per year, total lease payments + $5k down = $24,417.32, then that minus $2425 taxes = $21,992.32, then that plus $22,845 = $44,837.32 I would actually pay for the car if I kept it after 39 months.) So I guess in reality I am putting down $5k - $2425 in tax which is $2575.

    2016 Q70 V6 RWD - .00189 and 42% for 39/10.

    Using $53,130 as the MSRP and $38,800 as the cap cost, I get $538/mo. If I back out the $2575 of cap reduction, the payment drops to $467/mo.

    Confirm the adjusted cap cost with the dealer. We'd also recommend not making a cap reduction - that money would be lost if the car is stolen or totaled.

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  • daves_q70daves_q70 Member Posts: 9
    Interesting, thanks, will do! And sorry, I wasn't clear, its the Q70L but that is only a $1500 option. Seemed worth getting the extra room.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 260,505
    daves_q70 said:

    Interesting, thanks, will do! And sorry, I wasn't clear, its the Q70L but that is only a $1500 option. Seemed worth getting the extra room.

    Add 1% to the residual for the long wheelbase version.

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  • daves_q70daves_q70 Member Posts: 9
    And so that MF of .00189 is really 4.5% if I am reading the lease calculations correctly. Which doesn't seem all that great. And where could the $30 extra per month or $1170 total over lease life coming from?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 263,018
    daves_q70 said:

    And so that MF of .00189 is really 4.5% if I am reading the lease calculations correctly. Which doesn't seem all that great. And where could the $30 extra per month or $1170 total over lease life coming from?

    Verify the CAP cost with the dealer. It seems you are guessing or trying to reverse engineer it. Find out the actual number.

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  • daves_q70daves_q70 Member Posts: 9
    Well, I am an engineer, so yes, admittedly that is what I was trying to do. Especially how we get from $38,800 to $44,837 if I purchased it at lease end. Thanks again for the info. Definitely need more info from the dealer.
  • daves_q70daves_q70 Member Posts: 9
    So they calculate residual on MSRP, not sales price? That seems wrong. But that is the difference I find in buying outright vs. leasing.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 260,505
    daves_q70 said:

    So they calculate residual on MSRP, not sales price? That seems wrong. But that is the difference I find in buying outright vs. leasing.

    Yes, the residual value is based on the bottom line number of the factory window sticker (base MSRP + options + destination).

    And, it works better for you that way. If the MSRP is $60K, the residual is 50%, and you negotiate $6K off the sticker, then your depreciation is only $24K.

    If the residual was 50% off the negotiated price, the depreciation would be $27K

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  • daves_q70daves_q70 Member Posts: 9
    Got it for the $467. Thanks for your help!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 260,505
    daves_q70 said:

    Got it for the $467. Thanks for your help!

    Congrats!

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  • infiniteeuphinfiniteeuph Member Posts: 18
    Could I get the MF/RV for the 2016 Infiniti Q70 5.6 RWD?

    Is the best term length 39 months?

    15k miles for 39m/36m/24m

    Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 263,018

    Could I get the MF/RV for the 2016 Infiniti Q70 5.6 RWD?

    Is the best term length 39 months?

    15k miles for 39m/36m/24m

    Thanks!

    .00189 MF and 35%/37%/44% residual

    39 months is best. Better hope for some monster incentives.

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  • infiniteeuphinfiniteeuph Member Posts: 18
    @kyfdx, I was hoping for a better residual... yah the incentives are nice, but not that nice.
  • stevenmen18stevenmen18 Member Posts: 11
    May I please know 2017 Infiniti Q70 3.7 AWD 39/10 MF & Residual as well incentives/lease bonus cash.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 263,018

    May I please know 2017 Infiniti Q70 3.7 AWD 39/10 MF & Residual as well incentives/lease bonus cash.

    .00003 MF and 50% residual
    We don't have the incentive information.

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  • abhutaabhuta Member Posts: 20
    Hi. Does anyone have the latest lease info for 3.7 Q70 standard wheel base RWD with base package for 39/12? Anyone know the lease and loyalty incentives?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 263,018
    abhuta said:

    Hi. Does anyone have the latest lease info for 3.7 Q70 standard wheel base RWD with base package for 39/12? Anyone know the lease and loyalty incentives?

    .00003 MF and 47% residual.

    We don't have the incentive info.

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  • abhutaabhuta Member Posts: 20
    Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 263,018
    abhuta said:

    Thanks!

    I didn't realize we were in the 2016 discussion.

    I gave the numbers for 2017 model, is that what you wanted?

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  • abhutaabhuta Member Posts: 20
    Thanks. That was the year I am interested in. Is there another thread for 2017?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 260,505
    abhuta said:

    Thanks. That was the year I am interested in. Is there another thread for 2017?

    Actually, there isn't. :disappointed:

    Guess that shows how frequently folks are looking for lease numbers on the Q70.

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  • aaielloaaiello Member Posts: 12
    can you provide me the August 2017 Residual and money factor for 39 month 12k per year lease. I live in Florida 
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 260,505
    aaiello said:

    can you provide me the August 2017 Residual and money factor for 39 month 12k per year lease. I live in Florida 

    V6 or V8?

    Short or long wheelbase?

    There are lease numbers for the 2016 Q70, but they aren't all that good.

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  • aaielloaaiello Member Posts: 12
    Q70 Long with 3.6
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 260,505
    aaiello said:

    Q70 Long with 3.6

    .00234 MF

    Whoops, one last question - RWD or AWD?

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  • aaielloaaiello Member Posts: 12
    Rwd
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 260,505
    aaiello said:

    Rwd

    38%

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