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Honda Accord Diesel????
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I'll investigate the Subaru for my next vehicle. :P
Don't hold your breath. I have wanted a small diesel PU truck since 1998. So far no company has brought one to the USA. VW is the only company that has been able to pass all the emissions to sell in all 50 states with a mid priced vehicle. Mercedes and BMW have passed the tests and will offer several pricey diesel rigs this year in all the states.
So your predictions will probably prove to be uncannily accurate gagrice - all the much-vaunted and well-advertised forays into diesel by the Japanese companies will come to naught, at least before 2010. And that's too bad. :-(
Word on the TSX is that they will now put a V-6 in instead of the diesel that failed certification with the automatic. You know, the manual passed - wouldn't it be cool if they sold TSX and Accord diesel manuals while they improved the emissions of the automatics?
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
I just read that. Does Honda think because gas prices are back down that we want another gas guzzling V6? I realize that is the only way they can get the torque of a 4 cylinder diesel. Maybe they should try a little harder instead of making excuses. Oh well I would not have been interested in anything smaller than a Pilot diesel anyway.
I wondered the same thing. They have all the test criteria. In fact they may have even done the testing. It is all pretty hushed up by Honda. I think it could be the exchange rate or any number of excuses.
OTOH, I don't understand how their 2.4L engine only gets 1-2 better MPG than the six which is a liter larger in displacement, but I'm getting off topic...
Vehicle Highlights
The 2010 Honda CR-V may receive a diesel engine. This five-passenger compact SUV should continue to be available with front-wheel drive or all-wheel drive. Trim levels should include LX, EX, and top-line EX-L with leather upholstery. All should have a 166-hp 2.4-liter 4-cylinder engine and a 5-speed automatic transmission. A new 2.2-liter diesel 4-cylinder would make 138 hp. Maximum towing capacity should be 1500 lb with the gasoline engine. Available safety features should include ABS, traction control, antiskid system, curtain side airbags, and front side airbags. A power driver seat and dual-zone automatic climate control should be standard on EX-L. A navigation system would also likely remain available on EX-L. Versions so equipped will be priced as separate models. This report is based on evaluations of the 2009 Honda CR-V.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
IMHO, we are seeing the effect of electing Mr. Obama -- they handed emissions controls to the states so instead of having one really good standard to run to, we can now have 50 different standards for the automakers to conform to. Just the thing automakers on the edge of bankrupcy need...
Emissions are still federal, but states can choose to have higher standards _ like California et all.
States have always had control over enforcing emissions. In SD there are no emissions inspections at all. No safety inspections either for that matter. In fact I don't have a single sticker on my windshield.
Even if they didn't sell a bunch they could have still beaten their chest about having such an efficient large car available (should beat Camry Hybrid - especially on the road). It certainly would have been as popular as the ill conceived Accord Hybrid
Tell me about it. And the irony is that diesels turn out less CO than gas engines, but they get no credit for that from the EPA.
2009 BMW 335i, 2003 Corvette cnv. (RIP 2001 Jaguar XK8 cnv and 1985 MB 380SE [the best of the lot])
I would hate to see this turn into a political debate. But the bullies that run this state have stomped on so many freedoms that the Honda diesel is just minute compared to all the rest. So don't get me started on the Soviet Socialist Republic of California as so many disgruntled residents like to call it.
If you're not familiar with it, the FR-V was a 6 seat 5-door hatch/SUV similar in size to the CR-V; just a little narrower; 2 rows of "smart" 3-abreast seats and lots of kit..............it just didn't sell too well, hence it was killed off.
A diesel Accord wagon would be an absolute segment buster. More interior space than most SUV's with better mpg than a Civic. All without clumsy SUV handling and braking. No brainer to me - just don't get how hardly anybody else sees this.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
Honda is not alone though. Mazda was pretty boneheaded with the 6 wagon only having a V-6. It was about the perfect vehicle for me but I did not consider it because the mpg was worse than my wifes V-6 minivan. Wound up with an Accord I-4 stick that has averaged 34.5 mpg over 76,000 miles (yes I figure every tank). A diesel wagon would be better than my vehicle in just about every way.
Lets see the innovation from the CVCC days Honda. Bring us a diesel and drop the overweight barges.
I think I should ask/negotiate for invoice for selling price, right now it is the MSRP.
Any help would be appreciated!
Thanks, John
selling price (actually MSRP) 22730
acq & cap fees 864
trade allowance 2700
cash cap reduction 1277.44
Net Cap cost 20186.68
MSRP 22730
residual 58%
lease end value 13183.40
money fact sell rate 0.00084
1st payment 222.56
amount due at start 1500
customer cash 1500
tax [window] 570.12
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