Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

Michaell

qbrozen said:

Michaell said:

Hey, you lease hackers, any chance of scoring a deal on a GT3? Just had a guy get a quote of almost $3400/mo.

MF is marked up .00100, and the dealer tacked on an extra $15k to the sticker.

The "deal" is to buy one. A 2016 is worth $120k now. A new 2019 is $145k.

$3400/mo is $122k over 36 mos. That makes absolutely no sense on a $145k car. Was it one that was loaded up with a full other 911 worth of options?

Actually, I may have screwed up the math. MSRP was $145k, marked up to $171k. So, $25k plus

28firefighter

Handed off the keys to the Stelvio tonight. Took 3 weeks with some significant diligence required.

Ally is slooow.

marcogallo1986

@28FF nice glad it went to an new home!

marcogallo1986

Lol nice on all of the Porsha. Stuff. Above

breld

graphicguy said:

@breld. Could you tell what the equipment level was on that 340i?

I didn’t take a close look, and to be honest, not being all that familiar with the new 3-series, I’m not sure I’d be able to tell what features and packages it has over standard.

28firefighter

I dropped that M340 into a Vin Decoder - Looks like it has, I think:
M Sport
M Sport Suspension
Executive Package
Premium Package
Driving Assistant Professional Package

tjc78

That's more or less Fully loaded

breld

Hmm...maybe they'd take the Q7 back in exchange for the m340.

I don't need the third row anymore.

fintail

BMW option names amuse me: "Executive", "Professional" etc.

I'm waiting for a car with package names like "Amateur", "Hobbyist", "Entry Level".

Michaell

fintail said:

BMW option names amuse me: "Executive", "Professional" etc.

I'm waiting for a car with package names like "Amateur", "Hobbyist", "Entry Level".

Poseur?

tjc78

fintail said:

BMW option names amuse me: "Executive", "Professional" etc.

I'm waiting for a car with package names like "Amateur", "Hobbyist", "Entry Level".

Reminds me of Lincoln in the 80s and 90s.. Executive Series and Signature Series

Like what does that really mean?

28firefighter

You could buy new for what they're asking.

ab348

Don't forget the Pontiac Executive.

fintail

Surprised BMW doesn't have a "VIP" trim level (ala 1966 Plymouth) - might go well with the ego of so many local drivers. A "Bill Blass" or "Cartier" trim level would be cool too.

28firefighter

To USAA's major credit, they're handling this swiftly. Opened claim on Saturday, saw their adjuster yesterday, and they're issuing payment today along with setting me up with a rental. No argument yet, though I'm waiting to hear from my preferred shop what they'll do the work for.

mb_enthusiast

qbrozen said:

nyccarguy said:

Mazel-Tov! Beautiful! Best of luck to you! The board has got some Audi Fever.

A visit to the service technician should clear that right up.

I was really happy with how my Q8 had no problems...

Now, 2000k miles on the odometer, something is loose in the left B pillar. I hear a clicking and squeaking noise while I am driving. That is very irritating. I have to blast the stereo to not hear it.

The MMI system froze yesterday, and I had to restart the car three times in order for it to work. Audi has set up the system so that basically nothing with the car works without those two screens working.

Today, I noticed that the tailgate latch does not always let go completely, so it gets stuck until you pull it by hand a little.

The first available appointment at my dealer is over two weeks out. :@

mb_enthusiast

Michaell said:

Hey, you lease hackers, any chance of scoring a deal on a GT3? Just had a guy get a quote of almost $3400/mo.

MF is marked up .00100, and the dealer tacked on an extra $15k to the sticker.

They talk a good game at the Semersky dealerships a.k.a. The Exchange Audi and Porsche in Highland Park, Illinois. Might try them. They are the biggest in the Midwest, and they have some in stock. Napleton Porsche Westmont (Illinois) goes down to buy rate easy. Didn't even have to negotiate. Asked them what it was, the salesman said, 'There is a markup here, but we are willing to go to the buy rate.'

tjc78

Thoughts on this deal?

Q50 Signature Edition which has the styling of the Sport 400 with the 300 HP motor.

MSRP $44645 / sell $36250
$396 39/10 all in with nothing DAS (not even first month) except a $499 broker fee.

I know the infotainment is antiquated with no CarPlay but it does have NAV.

kyfdx

tjc78 said:

Thoughts on this deal?

Q50 Signature Edition which has the styling of the Sport 400 with the 300 HP motor.

MSRP $44645 / sell $36250
$396 39/10 all in with nothing DAS (not even first month) except a $499 broker fee.

I know the infotainment is antiquated with no CarPlay but it does have NAV.

Seems like a good deal, relative to MSRP

300 HP is nothing to sneeze at.

stickguy

Bite your tongue. Some people around here think that it’s dangerous to be driving around in something that underpowered.

marcogallo1986

@breld. Call treating your servant get that BMW you talk about the ball rolling here to support you. Because that’s what we do in here

marcogallo1986

@TJC Go for it!

marcogallo1986

I know all these names at somebody’s order manufacturers use make me laugh at that they’ve used in the past to wake mentioned above.g I know all these names it’s on these or do manufacturers use make me laugh at that they’ve used in the past to wake mentioned above.

au1994

tjc78 said:

Thoughts on this deal?

Q50 Signature Edition which has the styling of the Sport 400 with the 300 HP motor.

MSRP $44645 / sell $36250
$396 39/10 all in with nothing DAS (not even first month) except a $499 broker fee.

I know the infotainment is antiquated with no CarPlay but it does have NAV.

Seems to be a pretty good deal to me, good value for the money. 300hp is fine in everyday driving. We'd all like to have more but...

CarPlay is nice but I don't use it everyday in the Subaru and even then I just use it for Google maps. The X1 doesn't have it, didn't come out till the 18's. I'm less concerned with the infotainment but would want to make sure there some safety nannies aboard. I've become so used to blind spot and a good camera now.

kyfdx

Our AWD G37 was a fat pig with 328 HP, and it was fast enough to make your eyes water..

graphicguy

tjc78 said:

Thoughts on this deal?

Q50 Signature Edition which has the styling of the Sport 400 with the 300 HP motor.

MSRP $44645 / sell $36250
$396 39/10 all in with nothing DAS (not even first month) except a $499 broker fee.

I know the infotainment is antiquated with no CarPlay but it does have NAV.

Sounds like a great deal. But, do yourself a favor and drive one in a spirited way (is there any other way?) to see what you think of the steering. I found it extremely “wonky” and at times, I had no idea what the car was doing (nor the steering wheel).

They may have fixed that. But, drive it to confirm.

Said it before, if an Infiniti is your want. Get the G/M...or anything with the 3.7 drivetrain and switchgear.

28firefighter

I’d say drive it to make sure you can tolerate the infotainment. It is pretty horrendous.

Also there is a trim of the 3.0t running around that has no carplay and no Nav. Just triple check it isn’t this trim.

tjc78

Not rushing into anything. Vacation next week, and then the following week two nights away (one business/one pleasure) so not much time to car shop.

I’ve driven that car when it was still a “G”. I really liked it.

The Signature does have Nav, the nicer seats and most of the safety nannies except BLiS. Not sure why that’s omitted.

tjc78

kyfdx said:

Our AWD G37 was a fat pig with 328 HP, and it was fast enough to make your eyes water..

Considering both my cars are slow, 300 HP in the Infiniti will feel like a rocket.

The 2012 LaCrosse I had was 300HP but it such a porker it didn’t feel like it

28firefighter

The G was and is very nice. The Q is quite different.

qbrozen

mb_enthusiast said:

2000k miles on the odometer

2000k translates into 2,000,000 miles. Pretty sure you got your money's worth. ;b

So, really, do you mean 2k miles? 20k miles?

qbrozen

Just for fun, I checked carvana and vroom on my bimmer again today. WOW! The depreciation is staggering. Their offer has dropped $5k in just a few months. $30.3k from carvana, and $29k from vroom. My residual 16 mos from now is around $33k.

28firefighter

The offer on the X1 is ~$21k. My residual is $26k in 5 months. And now, with a smack to the rear and the original damage on it from when it was a loaner, this thing has to be worth in the high teens.

A lot of car for that money though for whomever gets it.

ab348

Sorry to hear of members being upside-down. Some of you may remember Oscar Koveleski, founder of the Polish Racing Drivers of America back in the late '60s/early '70s. IIRC they issued stickers proclaiming the existence of the "Upside-Down Club". Their slogan was "Always on Top!".

au1994

28firefighter said:

The offer on the X1 is ~$21k. My residual is $26k in 5 months. And now, with a smack to the rear and the original damage on it from when it was a loaner, this thing has to be worth in the high teens.

A lot of car for that money though for whomever gets it.

Last time I checked thats about what ours was worth vs what we owe.

Michaell

The MINI is paid off, and probably worth $8-12K, the Subaru is positive by $6-7K and the Jetta goes back in 3 weeks.

It's been years since I've been able to say that.

tjc78

Positive equity? What’s that lol

I’m buried in both for sure. Elantra will be cheaper just to pay the 3 payments if I wanted to get out

Michaell

tjc78 said:

Positive equity? What’s that lol

I’m buried in both for sure. Elantra will be cheaper just to pay the 3 payments if I wanted to get out

Trust me - I've lived that story for years. Frequent trading out of the wife's car was not good for our financial health, auto-wise.

Getting the Outback was the best thing for us to break that cycle, especially here in CO.

qbrozen

the only thing on the positive side of the loan in my driveway is the minivan, of all things. It is possible, as long as good leasing deals exist, this may be our last financed vehicle ever.
I believe it will be paid off in the next few months.

xwesx

If I could find a buyer for the Q7, I would be free and clear again. As it is, lots of equity in that one, despite the fact that it has suffered about 50% depreciation since I bought it. I should probably just keep it at this point, but I would really like to send it on down the highway.

After driving the 08 Forester and Focus for most of the summer (when not riding my bicycle), I can certainly say that the Q7 is buttery smooth and wonderfully quiet, though. You lose sight of those qualities when you use a vehicle every day.

I get about 500 mile a tank, and I filled it up on May 19.... then not until June 30, and I don't think I have put a hundred miles on it since then. I have more miles on my bicycle (about 650 as of this morning) during that same period.

thebean

Kudos to you for riding your bike. The only time we can reasonably ride a bike here Texas in the summer is between the hours of 6 and 9 am.

xwesx

thebean said:

Kudos to you for riding your bike. The only time we can reasonably ride a bike here Texas in the summer is between the hours of 6 and 9 am.

I felt that way last night. Temp was around 90 when I went home at 6pm, with wildfire smoke in the air (air quality index noted it as "moderate"). It felt oppressing. This morning's ride, with temp around 65 and AQI at about 90 (still moderate, but more smoke than last night), was much more comfortable.

I had to skip two weeks ago altogether, though, because we had really thick smoke and temps that were about 90 all that week. I could handle the temp, but I still need to breathe!

kyfdx

Positive equity in my BMW, since the day I paid cash for it..

Wife's BMW has a 72 month, 0% note, and with $9400 trade-in, might be even. (after 22 months).

Tacoma lease is way under water, with 11 months to go, mostly due to the crazy 82% residual for 36/12. But, we'll just turn it back in, so we'll be even in 11 months.

tifighter

All titles, no notes here. As a wise scholar once said:

"That's the way, uh-huh uh-huh, I like it..."













"...uh-huh uh-huh."

fintail

BMW obsessed old co-worker just dumped his ~13 M3 (which he picked up maybe 2 years ago after having a ~12 550i for under a year, I think he lost his shirt on that one) for a 16 M6 Gran Coupe competition. I suspect his resale hits are like a lease payment in themselves. I give it 2 years tops.

I just make sure I like the car before I sign, then no worries about red ink as I won't want to sell. Maybe next time I'll get off the lease carousel.

Davercee

That car looks amazing, andres3!

stickguy

RDX is our little nest egg! I assume upside down in TLX but that’s not an issue until lease end and I decide to buy out or return. Likely return, or I will be buying 2 cars!

sda

I hope what I experienced today is not indicative of future interactions. When I was in the process of buying the Audi, I asked if it had two keys. I also noticed someone swiped the volume knob from the console. They indicated the car had two keys and would replace the knob. As I was getting ready to commit to buying the Audi I asked that they confirm it had two keys. It didn’t. Knowing they can be expensive I asked that they provide it. We came to an impasse and I walked. Well, who knew, on my drive home, after disappointing my wife telling her the deal fell thru, they called back and said they would get a second key. The rest of the transaction went well and they have been good to the agreement.

Today the salesman called and said the key and volume knob were received and they confirmed with the Audi dealer that they will pay for the programming cost when I take the car to them on Saturday. All good, my experience with the selling dealer is positive.

I call the Audi dealer to confirm my appointment and that the selling dealer is paying for the key programming. The attitude by the service advisor was somewhat condescending but confirmed the appointment. I asked if they could confirm all recalls were completed which they said the would and also asked that they reset the Service reminder as VW did the service but don’t have the tool to reset the reminder. I got a curt, that will be $70 as we didn’t do the service and you are taking up a technician’s time. Now that’s a good way to impress a potential repeat service customer. We’ll see how it goes.

By the way, if I had to pay for the key, it is $252 for the transmitter, $75 for the internal key and $140 to program plus tax, about $500!

corvette

Sometimes a local locksmith can do that type of work cheaper but that may not be an option with VW/Audi since I think they have laser cut keys.

Can you reset the service reminder yourself without a tool?

The cool thing about the Nissan/Infiniti smart keys is that you can get a used one and reprogram it to a different car. They just have to cut a key blank for the emergency key. I think it was around $150 to do that on my G37.

nyccarguy

kyfdx said:

Our AWD G37 was a fat pig with 328 HP, and it was fast enough to make your eyes water..

That’s a fair assessment