Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

benjaminh

tjc78 said:

Hey all! Punch is official!
2019 S60 T6 Inscription
Crystal White over Blond....

I'm guessing the msrp is c.$50k?

qbrozen

I’ll say $56k.

28firefighter

I abstain.

28firefighter

Something like this is intriguing.

https://www.audibeaverton.com/used/Audi/2015-Audi-A4-561ab8550a0e0adf62eced9eddc707fe.htm

sda

Tom, super sharp. My kind of car. Enjoy!

fintail

Congrats, fantastic looking interior in that S60.

stickguy

28firefighter said:

Something like this is intriguing.

https://www.audibeaverton.com/used/Audi/2015-Audi-A4-561ab8550a0e0adf62eced9eddc707fe.htm

I like the colors, seats, and pedal count! But seems pricey for a 5 YO model with 50K miles on it.

28firefighter

I’d be more interested if it were certified.

benjaminh

How long is the Audi CPO warranty?

Sometimes even cars that are 3 years old don't have AndroidAuto/CarPlay, which to me would be a deal-breaker.

laurasdada

Congrats on the S60, TJC!
Spent some time at local Porsche dealer this pm. Avoided temptation, again. Not hard with the prices! Big discounts on some new '18s, though. But still big $$$.

They had a great selection of snacks, but since I'm just a looky lou, I didn't partake.

marcogallo1986

@ The wrong Starbucks, take your time keep on looking I know you’ll make a punch sooner or later the time is right.

marcogallo1986

Wow he really butchered up his name to comments above went to the Porsche dealer to look today. Sorry about that man. Everyone else in here to tell you about how to put your their names ha ha.

breld

28firefighter said:

Something like this is intriguing.

https://www.audibeaverton.com/used/Audi/2015-Audi-A4-561ab8550a0e0adf62eced9eddc707fe.htm

Yes! I like this A4 a lot! The sport package and interior that’s not black is very nice!

marcogallo1986

@ Jay Monroe, I know I know I’m bringing in the Steelers in person ha ha Ha. Lol see I’m sticking to my usual plan of closing good trouble why not. That’s what we do around here Jay Monroe me and you.

breld

Congrats @tjc78! Beautiful S60!

laurasdada

Costco offering 8% off msrp on select Audi models this month... It's a start.

marcogallo1986

@ Jay Monroe, we have to keep everyone on their toes in here. lol

jmonroe1

marcogallo1986 said:

@ Jay Monroe, we have to keep everyone on their toes in here. lol

I understand that but some of our poster buddies might not want to tippy-toe all the time.

jmonroe

benjaminh

laurasdada said:

Costco offering 8% off msrp on select Audi models this month... It's a start.

Since that can be combined with all other incentives it sounds like a good deal. ++

nyccarguy

@tjc78 - mazel-tov! Great color combo!

xwesx

tjc78 said:

Beautiful! That interior looks more like a living room than a car! Just lovely.

tjc78

Thanks everyone!

@marcogallo1986
It’s pearl white

@benjaminh
The MSRP was just shy of 50k. It has the heated rear seat package, but no advanced (auto-pilot) or B&W audio otherwise pretty well equipped.

Thursday night I had gotten down to what was rock bottom on this car $465 / $465 down 36/10.

Three other dealers ranged from $10 to $50 a month higher. This was about a 19% discount from sticker.

I spoke with a broker from LH and his deal was similar just on a higher MSRP car. @28firefighter and I even chatted over PM and he sent me some deals that were pretty awesome but when structuring the lease the same as mine came to the same payment once I added in the broker fee.

So Friday around noon my wife calls me and says “did you pull the trigger”

“No, it’s been a killer day in here and haven’t had time to call the guy”

I get out of a meeting at 3:00 or so and the dealer is calling me with another offer. Same car I just got but loaner for $422 / month. Wow, I’m just about about ready to pull out the check book. He tells me the stock #, I look it up and it’s black over black. I just really dislike black interiors but with a black exterior it’s even worse.

So now I have a decision to make. I text my wife with the details and she basically said I’d never be happy with it and that if I’m getting this may as well get exactly what I want and not worry about the extra money in this case.

So that’s a wrap. I really never considered any Volvo’s until last year when I had a rental S90. As I drive it more I’ll let you guys know more of what I think of it.

Also.. the seats. Yes they are one of the best things about the car.

One more thing... yes I know nearly white interior with kids? They really won’t be in this one much. Come Sept I’ll have to take my daughter to school two days a week. Those two days I’ll take the Enclave and my wife will get some seat time in this (well all ten miles round trip)

qbrozen

T6 Inscription under $50k? Huh. Not sure I’ve seen that at my local dealers. Although I do only look at their loaner fleet.

roadburner

For those who don't check Cars and Conversations...
I took the M340i back today. I was reminded back in 1991 when I drove the then all new E36 325i. It was fast and fun, and when I got back behind the wheel of my 1987 535is it felt slow and ponderous. I was afraid that might happen again when I drove my M235i, but fortunately that was not the case. In fact, I still prefer the overall feel of the 2 Series. I'm sure it would be equally quick with the M Performance locking differential. Now, having said all that, there were a few things about the M340i that I liked better, but it was mostly down to some of the minor electronic features, such as the SiriusXM display, the layout of the home screen, and the glass cockpit.I'd also add that the M340i xDrive is one of only a few AWD cars that I could see owning as my "fun" car- the others being the M5, the X5M, the X3 M40i, and the STI.

stickguy

Tom, I had the same debate with myself last year when I was shopping. CH had one loaded S60 loaner (the standard length one I think but all the goodies. Tech, so fancy stereo, nannies, whatever they could throw on there. And their initial offer was really strong. But, it was also black over black and I just couldn't do it.

someone got a good deal on that. IIRC sticker was about 46K, and they offered to sell it (I think it was the BIN price, not a cap cost for a lease) of $28k. Talk about depreciation! This was right when the new models were about to land (or were already maybe hiding in the back).

marcogallo1986

@Jmonro. O man! Lol

marcogallo1986

@TJC you are welcomme!

tjc78

qbrozen said:

T6 Inscription under $50k? Huh. Not sure I’ve seen that at my local dealers. Although I do only look at their loaner fleet.

If it doesn’t have Advanced or B&W they come in at like 49,800 unless they have some accessories which pushes them over 50

suydam

I would not get black over black myself. Our Encore is black with a grey interior which I do like very much.

benjaminh

tjc78 said:

Thanks everyone!

@marcogallo1986
It’s pearl white
@benjaminh
The MSRP was just shy of 50k. It has the heated rear seat package, but no advanced (auto-pilot) or B&W audio otherwise pretty well equipped.
Thursday night I had gotten down to what was rock bottom on this car $465 / $465 down 36/10....

Seems like a great deal on an impressive car. I love the styling of the new Volvo S60. Every detail that I've seen inside and out looks great. For instance, the "Thor's Hammer" LED headlights are cool imho. And that interior is amazing. My guess is that using a slightly damp hand towel every month or so for touch up might be one way to keep it looking good. The white steering wheel is an unusual feature that I don't think I've seen on a car for quite a while.

What do you like best about your S60 so far? Built in South Carolina?

stickguy

had the daughter with us yesterday (the enabler!) working on the wife about picking a new car. Was showing some listings. Wife really is anti brown interior. But daughter and I agreed that the pearly white over espresso was really a popping color combo.

Need to get her out cruising the lots (can do on Sunday when they are closed) to see some color options in real light. Looking at pictures online, just doesn't cut it.

nyccarguy

We visited some friends yesterday in Bordentown, NJ. They have completely upgraded their fleet from the last time we saw them. Her car was a 2014 or 2015 Subaru Forester XT & his car was a 2015 Accord EXL V6. She now drives a Tesla Model S 75D & he bought a CPO Estoril Blue 440xi Drop Top M Sport.

Since I was the deciding factor that pushed him to a 440 over a 430, I was asked to test drive them both and give my impressions.

benjaminh

Some more on the Volvo S60.

https://www.volvocars.com/us/cars/new-models/s60/trims/inscription

"Modern luxury
The S60 Inscription lives at the intersection of modern Swedish luxury and intelligent performance. With distinctive exterior design features, such as an exclusive bright chrome grille, bright chrome window surrounds, and unique 18” and 19” wheel options, the S60 Inscription stands apart from the crowd. Inside, Scandinavian design combines with standard genuine wood and rich leather to create an opulent environment. Choose from a range of Inscription-exclusive colors and trims...."

Estimated 36 mpg on the highway. 250 hp 2-liter turbo. Edmunds has a very positive review....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZj8X5mH_XM

ab348

Sounds like your Bordentown friends have hit the financial jackpot.

stickguy

I was thinking, to make those upgrades, somebody had a good last few years.

28firefighter

Or their kids are out of daycare now. That’s like getting an $18-24k/year raise per kid around these parts.

tjc78

28firefighter said:

Or their kids are out of daycare now. That’s like getting an $18-24k/year raise per kid around these parts.

Bingo.... come Sept with just one out I picked up nearly $600 month!

jpp75

@tjc78 Congrats on the S60, that's a great car!! As @michaell mentioned we spent a few minutes at the Volvo dealer yesterday and really their entire lineup is very attractive. The V60 @michaell mentioned would be on my short list if I was shopping, the color combo was perfect and as others have noted the overall interior is top notch for the class.

Fortunately I still love the Tacoma and would regret getting rid of it. I had a chance to do some true off roading with it on vacation last month. It's amazing what the truck can do, especially given my very limited off roading skills. The C30 also continues to please me, for the money it was a great purchase for a fun car.

@pensfan83, hope it all works out with the Tacoma lease, love that color!

tjc78

benjaminh said:

tjc78 said:

Thanks everyone!

@marcogallo1986
It’s pearl white
@benjaminh
The MSRP was just shy of 50k. It has the heated rear seat package, but no advanced (auto-pilot) or B&W audio otherwise pretty well equipped.
Thursday night I had gotten down to what was rock bottom on this car $465 / $465 down 36/10....

Seems like a great deal on an impressive car. I love the styling of the new Volvo S60. Every detail that I've seen inside and out looks great. For instance, the "Thor's Hammer" LED headlights are cool imho. And that interior is amazing. My guess is that using a slightly damp hand towel every month or so for touch up might be one way to keep it looking good. The white steering wheel is an unusual feature that I don't think I've seen on a car for quite a while.

What do you like best about your S60 so far? Built in South Carolina?

There is a lot to like... but honestly the interior is what sold me the most. The tech is great, and the quality of materials is top notch.

It rides wonderfully and handles well enough for me. The Q or 3 are better handlers but I don’t think the interior is as nice.

suydam

I don’t know anything about Volvo’s. Do they make a plug in hybrid or an all EV in the US?

rny421

@tjc78 Congrats on the S60! I love the looks of it. I'm definitely the odd man out, and prefer black interiors over light interiors though - but to each their own!

I'm interested to know more about the ride quality and road noise. Our 2012 S60 T6 rode a little too rough for the roads in New York, but I don't have any experience with the newer SPA platform Volvos. I would definitely consider getting an S60 to replace my TLX in a few years.

benjaminh

rny421 said:

....I would definitely consider getting an S60 to replace my TLX in a few years.

Hey fellow TLX driver, what model do you have? Any pix convenient to post?

rny421

It's a 2015 4 cylinder base model, black on black (those are taboo words here ). I bought it a year and a half ago for $20K with about 30K miles as a CPO. Currently have 52K miles on it. I'm happy with it for the most part - the seats are very comfortable, it's quiet, reasonably quick, and gets good gas mileage. On a recent trip where I obeyed the speed limit I got 40 mpg!

graphicguy

tjc78 said:

Oh man....that’s purty! Big congrats!

nyccarguy

So as I stated before, my NJ friends have been working hard lately at their respective jobs and have purchased 2 very nice cars in the past year. I was afforded the opportunity to drive them both, back to back around Route 130 in Bordentown, NJ.

I was impressed with both cars, but one of them completely blew me away. First the Tesla. It’s a Model S 75D. The wife drives it back and forth to work (9 miles each way) and uses it to shuttle the kids around. They have 2 daughters 8 & 6. The Model is is the @stickguy color special. Dark blue with a light interior. It’s a beautiful color combination. Very subtle and sleek looking without the gargantuan sized wheels. The seats are incredibly comfortable. The rear view mirror is tiny. The car has the fixed glass roof and not a sunroof. Cabin is airy and light. AC does an incredible job at cooling the canine down on a very hot day. I start off accelerating normal just to get a feel for a car without an engine. The regenerative brakes take a bit of time to get used to. They start grabbing right when you take your foot off the “gas” pedal. I’m going about 40 in a 35 and my friend tells me to jump on it. No drama, no noise (still very strange as I like the noises my cars make), just an instantaneous blast of speed. We are pushed back into our seats as I’m waiting to make the jump to light speed. It’s that fast. Wow. I’m going over 80 mph, the car feels solid, stable, but feels like it can keep going. The rest of the way, I keep it at normal speeds. The car automatically opens its garage door as you pull into the driveway. I wasn’t expecting much, but will seriously consider a Model 3 once it comes time to replace my beloved Infiniti.

We pull the Tesla into the garage. And my friend goes inside and grabs the keys to his 440xi MSport Convertible. The car is beautiful. Estoril Blue over Black with M Sport package. As awesome as the Tesla was, this is what a car should sound & feel like. Push the start button and the Twin Turbo In-line 6 growls to life. I just love the way the car does everything just right. It is heavy and slower than the Tesla, but so damn sexy. The acceleration, braking, & precise handling that made me fall in love with BMWs many moons ago.

28firefighter

Great write ups!

tjc78

@28firefighter
Back seat pics as requested. Both front seats were set to fit me (6’ tall).

28firefighter

I should give one of these a test drive.

abacomike

tjc78 said:

Hey all! Punch is official!

2019 S60 T6 Inscription
Crystal White over Blond.

Ended up getting it at dealer about 90 minutes north of me for what I’m being told a pretty good deal.

Long story short, I negotiated with 4 different dealers over four days all by phone/email. Finally locked it in late yesterday. Completed the credit app and first payment last night. Dealer called right when they were closing and said all was good and to come in at 10:30 today.

Arrived at 10:30 and was out by 10 after 12.

Not bad at all and they apologized I had to wait a bit.

I’m so impressed with this car. Quick, nice firm but compliant ride. Great seats and the mid level Harmon Kardon sound system blows away the Bose in the Enclave. Bonus ... wife loves the look too.

When I get time there is more to the story that I’ll bore you all with.

Good luck with the new S60, tjc. Volvo has come a long way in terms of quality and design. Interiors are exquisite, IMO. Don’t forget the pics. 😛

abacomike

@tjc78

Just saw the pics - beautiful combo of exterior and interior colors. Enjoy!