Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

nyccarguy

mb_enthusiast said:

I took my Audi Q8 into the dealer Monday after having trouble with some creaking in the left b pillar. I believe it is coming from seat belt adjuster. I hear the creaking all the time without the stereo loud enough. The dealer claimed that they couldn't replicate the issue. Are they deaf? This issue has been mentioned on AudiWorld and YouTube as well. It would be one thing if they said it was normal. It's another thing to suggest that I am imagining things.

I also mentioned that the tailgate doesn't always open using the remote. Sometimes it only unlocks and pops up slightly. Same claim. Not able to replicate the issue. The first time I try to open the tailgate after picking it up Tuesday evening, it does the same thing. I happened to catch it on video.

Did I mention that the car appeared to be parked at someone's residence for most of the day Monday? The service advisor had claimed that she would contact me Monday afternoon and that everything should be ready by the evening...she never did contact me. I contacted her that evening. It's obvious that they just never got to my car. I've not been pleased with Audi dealership customer service so far. My preferred dealership was booked out a month in advance for service.

Make sure you give em the big stick on the survey! I'd call Audi corporate to open a case as well. How's your Dad BTW?

nyccarguy

nyccarguy

tjc78

Why can’t I post a pic from my iPhone anymore?

Request desktop site, then it works.

Stinks about the bumper, it's always something!

nyccarguy

tjc78 said:

Why can’t I post a pic from my iPhone anymore?

Request desktop site, then it works.

Stinks about the bumper, it's always something!

I tried. There used to be something to click that said "go to full site." I can't find it.

stickguy

That might buff out! Though given you street park in the city, I would expect that kind of battle scar.

graphicguy

Thanks for the vid @benjaminh

Lots of exterior shots of the upcoming TLX S-Type. But, I’ve yet to see any of the interior. They have the cars right there, but no one has thought to stick a camera up against the window to take a shot of the interior?

Hope you’re right about the release being in the next 10 months. I’m just thinking they do this like they do their other rollouts. The “regular” redesigned TLX comes first, and the S-Type comes sometime thereafter. 2021 models should hit the showrooms next summer.

@nyccarguy ...looks like you buffed out most of the scrape. Just wondering if any of those “wonder scratch removers” like SCRATCHX would work on the rest?

pensfan83

I wonder if Acura would do something similar to BMW where you have the full M cars and M "light" such as the M340i, M550i with the A-Spec similar to M "light".

28firefighter

Jason Cammisa posted on his Instagram that his in-depth test of the GLI was mixed though landed on it being a great performance value for the money.

His biggest complaints seemed to be a DSG that behaved too much like an automatic, the lack of GTI seats, a very rattly interior (rattles with the radio off and then with the radio on and a little bass, sounded like the doors would fall off), and a silly Digital cockpit.

None of the above bothers me too much, except the rattling, It is my single biggest pet peeve in a car and would seriously kill it for me.

graphicguy

pensfan83 said:

I wonder if Acura would do something similar to BMW where you have the full M cars and M "light" such as the M340i, M550i with the A-Spec similar to M "light".

Well...from what I’ve read, the new TLX platform is all new and exclusive to Acura. That tells me they aren’t using the Accord platform for the new TLX.

S-Type has been strongly rumored to be getting a twin turbo V6.

So, what does that leave? Maybe a base version using a tweaked version of the 2.0T from the Accord? 275HP, maybe? An A-Spec TLX getting a single turbo V6 (which would matchup to the BMW M lite series?

I’m just speculating, but there are several different ways to go once you sit the TLX S-Type at the top of the ladder.

28firefighter

I could see the TLX dropping the NA 2.4 4 cylinder engine completely. TLX models would get the 2.0T accord engine at 252 HP with the TLX A-Spec getting the Type R version of that engine at 306 HP. TLX Type S would get the twin turbo V6.

tjc78

@28firefighter
That makes perfect sense. So I'm going to guess it won't happen that way!

breld

28firefighter said:

Jason Cammisa posted on his Instagram that his in-depth test of the GLI was mixed though landed on it being a great performance value for the money.

His biggest complaints seemed to be a DSG that behaved too much like an automatic, the lack of GTI seats, a very rattly interior (rattles with the radio off and then with the radio on and a little bass, sounded like the doors would fall off), and a silly Digital cockpit.

None of the above bothers me too much, except the rattling, It is my single biggest pet peeve in a car and would seriously kill it for me.

As infrequently as I drive my stepdaughter's Jetta, I do notice rattling that I attribute to the first year of the new model. That would certainly give me pause on pulling the trigger on a GLI.

pensfan83

I'd be perfectly happy with that setup.

au1994

28firefighter said:

Jason Cammisa posted on his Instagram that his in-depth test of the GLI was mixed though landed on it being a great performance value for the money.

His biggest complaints seemed to be a DSG that behaved too much like an automatic, the lack of GTI seats, a very rattly interior (rattles with the radio off and then with the radio on and a little bass, sounded like the doors would fall off), and a silly Digital cockpit.

None of the above bothers me too much, except the rattling, It is my single biggest pet peeve in a car and would seriously kill it for me.

Its one of mine too. I'd give them about 2 cracks to fix it or be looking to trade.

au1994

I saw a Gladiator in the wild this morning. Silver Sport S model, dealer tag but already had a mild lift and bigger tires on it. Nice looking rig, longer than I expected but that makes the bed a pretty useful size for most of us.

28firefighter

au1994 said:

28firefighter said:

Jason Cammisa posted on his Instagram that his in-depth test of the GLI was mixed though landed on it being a great performance value for the money.

His biggest complaints seemed to be a DSG that behaved too much like an automatic, the lack of GTI seats, a very rattly interior (rattles with the radio off and then with the radio on and a little bass, sounded like the doors would fall off), and a silly Digital cockpit.

None of the above bothers me too much, except the rattling, It is my single biggest pet peeve in a car and would seriously kill it for me.

Its one of mine too. I'd give them about 2 cracks to fix it or be looking to trade.

I'll give it another test drive, but if it's rattling during a test drive then I'm out. When I drove the Accord and the TLX, they were dead quiet. And the Accord had 4k miles on it, so any rattles would have surfaced by then.

I'd be more understanding in a cheaper car (e.g. a Jetta S), but in something that is supposed to be a higher end version? No way. Cheap plastic comes at a price...

stickguy

TLX is really solidly built. I assume the next one will just have the 4 cyl turbo engines. Maybe base 2.0, and upgrade the 2.3 from the RDX?

Much easier to engineer if not using a V6, but must be anyway if the S type has one. So maybe they keep the NA V6 too.

mb_enthusiast

nyccarguy said:

mb_enthusiast said:

I took my Audi Q8 into the dealer Monday after having trouble with some creaking in the left b pillar. I believe it is coming from seat belt adjuster. I hear the creaking all the time without the stereo loud enough. The dealer claimed that they couldn't replicate the issue. Are they deaf? This issue has been mentioned on AudiWorld and YouTube as well. It would be one thing if they said it was normal. It's another thing to suggest that I am imagining things.

I also mentioned that the tailgate doesn't always open using the remote. Sometimes it only unlocks and pops up slightly. Same claim. Not able to replicate the issue. The first time I try to open the tailgate after picking it up Tuesday evening, it does the same thing. I happened to catch it on video.

Did I mention that the car appeared to be parked at someone's residence for most of the day Monday? The service advisor had claimed that she would contact me Monday afternoon and that everything should be ready by the evening...she never did contact me. I contacted her that evening. It's obvious that they just never got to my car. I've not been pleased with Audi dealership customer service so far. My preferred dealership was booked out a month in advance for service.

Make sure you give em the big stick on the survey! I'd call Audi corporate to open a case as well. How's your Dad BTW?

Thanks for asking! He's making progress. He has some surgical consults upcoming. He's going to need some surgery on his large intestine and a total hip replacement. The latter is obviously a very major surgery. He's currently staying in a sub-acute rehab facility. Month in hospital > almost a month in acute rehab > now one week so far in sub-acute rehab.

nyccarguy

mb_enthusiast said:

nyccarguy said:

mb_enthusiast said:

I took my Audi Q8 into the dealer Monday after having trouble with some creaking in the left b pillar. I believe it is coming from seat belt adjuster. I hear the creaking all the time without the stereo loud enough. The dealer claimed that they couldn't replicate the issue. Are they deaf? This issue has been mentioned on AudiWorld and YouTube as well. It would be one thing if they said it was normal. It's another thing to suggest that I am imagining things.

I also mentioned that the tailgate doesn't always open using the remote. Sometimes it only unlocks and pops up slightly. Same claim. Not able to replicate the issue. The first time I try to open the tailgate after picking it up Tuesday evening, it does the same thing. I happened to catch it on video.

Did I mention that the car appeared to be parked at someone's residence for most of the day Monday? The service advisor had claimed that she would contact me Monday afternoon and that everything should be ready by the evening...she never did contact me. I contacted her that evening. It's obvious that they just never got to my car. I've not been pleased with Audi dealership customer service so far. My preferred dealership was booked out a month in advance for service.

Make sure you give em the big stick on the survey! I'd call Audi corporate to open a case as well. How's your Dad BTW?

Thanks for asking! He's making progress. He has some surgical consults upcoming. He's going to need some surgery on his large intestine and a total hip replacement. The latter is obviously a very major surgery. He's currently staying in a sub-acute rehab facility. Month in hospital > almost a month in acute rehab > now one week so far in sub-acute rehab.

ok, so he's making progress.

benjaminh

graphicguy said:

Thanks for the vid @benjaminh

Lots of exterior shots of the upcoming TLX S-Type. But, I’ve yet to see any of the interior. They have the cars right there, but no one has thought to stick a camera up against the window to take a shot of the interior?

Hope you’re right about the release being in the next 10 months. I’m just thinking they do this like they do their other rollouts. The “regular” redesigned TLX comes first, and the S-Type comes sometime thereafter. 2021 models should hit the showrooms next summer....

As you know, the TXL was introduced in the late summer of 2014 as a 2015 model. Counting the 2019 model year it's already been around for 5 years, which is why I'm guessing that the 2020 model year will be a short one. Because Acura is enhancing its performance DNA, I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that the Type S will be available at launch. Acura knows that only a tiny number will buy the Type S, but the press is likely to give it something of a splash, making it a halo car for the rest of the all-new TLX lineup. An Acura turbo 6 might have 400 hp....

benjaminh

28firefighter said:

I could see the TLX dropping the NA 2.4 4 cylinder engine completely. TLX models would get the 2.0T accord engine at 252 HP with the TLX A-Spec getting the Type R version of that engine at 306 HP. TLX Type S would get the twin turbo V6.

This sounds likely. ++

I would appreciate a hybrid as well, but I'm one of the very few who would.

My TLX 2.4 can get 35-40 mpg on the highway, plus since it isn't a turbo I feel like if I decided to keep it for ten years and 150,000 miles it would likely be reliable.

qbrozen

I’m curious to see how close to reality this is. I submitted my contact info. Advertised price is several grand below auction value.
https://www.koonsjeep.com/new/Dodge/2019-Dodge-Charger-Fairfax-VA-0f7d34470a0e0ae909e6074d2081abeb.htm

Michaell

qbrozen said:

I’m curious to see how close to reality this is. I submitted my contact info. Advertised price is several grand below auction value.
https://www.koonsjeep.com/new/Dodge/2019-Dodge-Charger-Fairfax-VA-0f7d34470a0e0ae909e6074d2081abeb.htm

Wow - $10K off does seem like a deal.

fintail

I like the $69 paint upcharge, what is this, 1970?

28firefighter

Looks like there is a $799 doc fee added on and the price includes all available rebates. I bet they also add a surcharge for being out of area.

ab348

Could be that they added up all of the possible incentives shown on the right to get close to that number. Odds of any one person qualifying for all of them is slim to none.

28firefighter

fintail said:

I like the $69 paint upcharge, what is this, 1970?

MB, BMW, Audi, etc. all charge WAY more than that for special paint colors and metallic paint upgrades. So no, just 2019.

tjc78

Volvo charged $645 for white.

pensfan83

I should have done the same for the Nissan @tjc78 lol

2017 Hyundai Elantra (for a little longer)

fintail

That was the joke - it's the 1970 price Which might fit as it is a 1970 car in a (not bad) way.

28firefighter said:

MB, BMW, Audi, etc. all charge WAY more than that for special paint colors and metallic paint upgrades. So no, just 2019.

28firefighter

I think I may have missed that part. Mea Culpa.

stickguy

qbrozen said:

I’m curious to see how close to reality this is. I submitted my contact info. Advertised price is several grand below auction value.
https://www.koonsjeep.com/new/Dodge/2019-Dodge-Charger-Fairfax-VA-0f7d34470a0e0ae909e6074d2081abeb.htm

aren't you stuck with the BMW for another 1+ years?

qbrozen

They claim no special incentives. I got a response with a breakdown and they are saying over $5k dealer discount and the $4850 factory rebate. I could also qualify for an additional $500 conquest, it seems. BUT, in addition to the aforementioned $799 doc fee, they have listed the $1495 destination fee on top of the sticker price that already includes destination. I have run into this scam before, at another dodge dealer, interestingly enough. I emailed back to call them out on it. No response yet.

28firefighter

stickguy said:

qbrozen said:

I’m curious to see how close to reality this is. I submitted my contact info. Advertised price is several grand below auction value.
https://www.koonsjeep.com/new/Dodge/2019-Dodge-Charger-Fairfax-VA-0f7d34470a0e0ae909e6074d2081abeb.htm

aren't you stuck with the BMW for another 1+ years?

Transfer that sucker out. It has been tarnished now that it was hit.

28firefighter

qbrozen said:

They claim no special incentives. I got a response with a breakdown and they are saying over $5k dealer discount and the $4850 factory rebate. I could also qualify for an additional $500 conquest, it seems. BUT, in addition to the aforementioned $799 doc fee, they have listed the $1495 destination fee on top of the sticker price that already includes destination. I have run into this scam before, at another dodge dealer, interestingly enough. I emailed back to call them out on it. No response yet.

So what you're saying is with that $2100 added in, they're basically at auction value for a used 2019? Doesn't seem so bad. That destination fee I think is what they charge to out of area consumers.

stickguy

I assumed that after the crash it was not going to be easy to dispose of. But, I guess when there is a will, there is a way.

nyccarguy

qbrozen said:

They claim no special incentives. I got a response with a breakdown and they are saying over $5k dealer discount and the $4850 factory rebate. I could also qualify for an additional $500 conquest, it seems. BUT, in addition to the aforementioned $799 doc fee, they have listed the $1495 destination fee on top of the sticker price that already includes destination. I have run into this scam before, at another dodge dealer, interestingly enough. I emailed back to call them out on it. No response yet.

Isn’t that available for the $10/horsepower rebate too?

qbrozen

So, yes, I could try transfer.
But I don’t mind extra cars, either. ;b
I dunno. I’m just playing with the idea. I have never even driven one. But I have extra cash now and couldn’t resist looking around. I did tell the wife we should pay off the solar panels, though, so I may squash the car idea for now. I should just try to finish the coronet. Time is not easy to come by, though.

tjc78

pensfan83 said:

I should have done the same for the Nissan @tjc78 lol

2017 Hyundai Elantra (for a little longer)

Ha ha. I just drove it. It’s definitely the red headed step child right now.

corvette

QX80’s interior is light years ahead of the Tahoe. Gas mileage seems to be worse, which I thought would be impossible. The automatic high beams err way too much on the side of caution.

stickguy

poking around looking at listings (hey, I was bored). I really, really like this one. Of course they would need to cut the price way down, but the car is nice.

https://www.ottosbmw.com/inventory/used-2019-bmw-x3-xdrive30i-awd-sport-utility-5uxtr9c57klp96034

28firefighter

Would recommend a broker or @qbrozen in your neck of the woods.

That said 16-18% off before incentives on a loaner is a reasonable target.

stickguy

spreading the wealth, not a bad deal on a V60 CPO. Though it is the old style interior and really want to avoid all black interior.

https://www.volvocarsprinceton.com/certified/Volvo/2018-Volvo-V60-02508ee30a0e0adf50b13c61278737a0.htm

looks good in black too. I like the 2 tone interior!

https://www.volvocarsprinceton.com/certified/Volvo/2018-Volvo-V60+Cross+Country-02508cf30a0e0adf50b13c61f28869a1.htm

stickguy

28firefighter said:

Would recommend a broker or @qbrozen in your neck of the woods.

That said 16-18% off before incentives on a loaner is a reasonable target.

I am fine with just sending QB in. Though they probably have his picture posted on the wall with a "broom this guy" note on it.

I am sure though that a broker would be able to get a deal I probably couldn't on my own, even factoring in the fee.

pensfan83

stickguy said:

poking around looking at listings (hey, I was bored). I really, really like this one. Of course they would need to cut the price way down, but the car is nice.

https://www.ottosbmw.com/inventory/used-2019-bmw-x3-xdrive30i-awd-sport-utility-5uxtr9c57klp96034

That's a really nicely equipped example for a loaner.

ronsteve

stickguy said:

spreading the wealth, not a bad deal on a V60 CPO. Though it is the old style interior and really want to avoid all black interior.

https://www.volvocarsprinceton.com/certified/Volvo/2018-Volvo-V60-02508ee30a0e0adf50b13c61278737a0.htm

looks good in black too. I like the 2 tone interior!

https://www.volvocarsprinceton.com/certified/Volvo/2018-Volvo-V60+Cross+Country-02508cf30a0e0adf50b13c61f28869a1.htm

Agreed on the 2-tone interior! That example would be enough to make me take a long look at a Cross Country. The white-over-black of the other one, I would definitely shy away from.

marcogallo1986

@ York cargo wow people are on believable he just walked away while roadway and then even answer you stinks on the minor damage there but you’re OK that’s the main thing.

marcogallo1986

@MB enthusiast I hate when the Steelers say that they could definitely clearly hear it. They just didn’t get to your car or they don’t care enough.

marcogallo1986

Thanks for the update on your dad also.