Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

Michaell

rayainsw said:

Punch.
2020 BMW M340i - delivered today.
- Ray
[ happy dance ]

Congratulations!

@corvette, can we get an updated count of punches?

It seems like it has been a busy month, with @breld, @kyfdx, @pensfan83 and @28firefighter all getting new whips in the past couple of weeks.

tjc78

rayainsw said:

Dark blue over dark brown.
Michelin Pilot Sports.
- Ray
Until I can post pics...

If on your phone “request desktop site” usually gets picture posting fixed

oldfarmer50

28firefighter said:

2010 generation Ford Fusion a la what @steine13 bought? Pretty sure he is the grand poobah of cars in this pricepoint.

Fusion it is...and from a dealer.

https://www.listingallcars.com/srp/?l=92127&d=50&co=u&yl=2009&yh=2013&m=Ford&mo=Fusion&ph=5000&mih=120000

I’d prefer this if you can stand the no tech.

https://www.listingallcars.com/vdp/-8574407585552819711/Used-2005-Honda-Accord-EX-for-sale-in-San-Marcos-CA-92078-by-Bavarian-Master-Care

stickguy

Fusions are from auto auction. Unless you mean the manual trans one?

Accord looks nice. Excellent option.

explorerx4

Have to see if the belt/water pump is doe on Accord.
2 door could cost more for insurance.

stickguy

Did not even notice it was a V6. So less desirable. The 4 has a chain too.

rayainsw

'If on your phone “request desktop site” usually gets picture posting fixed '
Thanks, but I am actually on a desktop...

rayainsw

Switched from Firefox to Chrome...

benjaminh

pensfan83 said:

My RV is around $26.5K I believe. After this Friday 6 payments left.

Are you tempted to buy it out? Pretty nice car for that price.

ab348

Congrats @rayainsw ... was the 2016 turned back as a lease expiry or did you own it and trade it in?

benjaminh

rayainsw said:

Wow! Congratulations!!

0-60 time in that?

tjc78

Congrats! Great color!

28firefighter

@rayainsw - That is one beautiful looking car. Congrats and don't get a speeding ticket!

andres3

I'd be more worried about being rear ended by a Toyota or garbage truck than a speeding ticket.

28firefighter

Spoken like someone who gets a lot of speeding tickets.

rayainsw

0-60: 3.8
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a29833923/2020-bmw-m340i-by-the-numbers/

rayainsw

Lease ended on the 2016.
New lease on the M340i
- Ray
Updated Profile - but I do not see the update here ???

pensfan83

Love the color. Enjoy!

qbrozen

rayainsw said:

0-60: 3.8
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a29833923/2020-bmw-m340i-by-the-numbers/

Good god. No way in heck it is “only” 382 hp.

rayainsw

' No way in heck it is “only” 382 hp.'
Shhhhhhh.
That is the worst kept secret in automotive-dom...
- Ray
Acceleration addict

corvette

@Michaell 11 punches so far in 2020, counting mine which hasn't happened yet, but will this month.

pensfan83

I was only banking on one but now there will be 2 for us. I blame @kyfdx

stickguy

I am working hard on it. Will see what happens. With us (the wife) it usually takes a while to get going on the looking but the buying happens when we finally drive something that she immediately falls in love with. And it isn't always what I am expecting. Could be something like a CRV Hybrid. Or a Volvo. Just hopefully it's something that does not blow the budget completely!

I actually think the CRV could do it. We did like the style, and room, seats, etc. She just did not like the CRV in that one for some reason, and I had some concern over the gas in oil issue. Neither of which will apply with the hybrid. Plus the high MPG rating will be intriguing.

benjaminh

The CR-V hybrid should be impressive, because not only will it be by far the most efficient CR-V, it will also be the most powerful and fastest. Unlike your Acura RDX you won't need to worry about premium fuel, and because the CR-V hybrid should get about 40 mpg city and hwy, it's a good guess that you might save $1000 a year on gas if you drive c. 12,000 miles a year or so. One catch is that discounts and lease incentives will likely be low to non-existent for the first few months it's out. But maybe in a few months discounts will be available.

(But when got my TLX Tech with a list price of $37,650, one of the cars I cross-shopped was the Accord hybrid EX, which was all-new at the time. Even though the Accord had a lower msrp, the lease price was much more a month for the Accord hybrid. In fact, the price was so much more a month that it was clear that gas savings would never get close to making up the difference. That, plus the fact that I liked nearly everything about the TLX much better than the Accord sealed the deal.)

Sandman6472

Drove a Dodge Durango, regular engine, was quite fun actually! Guessing it must be outrageous with the hemi engine. Then a couple of Hyundai Kona's back to back. Suffice it to say I'm over the Kona and it has been taken off the short list. I like low end torque, let's be honest here, and as a co-worker has said, I won't be happy with anything non-turbo going forward...and I have to agree with him here. I like low end torque so it can get out of it's way quickly, when needed. The Kona's today just showed me that they are nice small vehicles but just don't get up and go for me. So, next up will to be to try the Kia Seltos SX with the turbo and see how that works. Also, the interior of the Kona was a bit bland, shall we say. Want something more fun, inside and out. While at Nissan, sat in a Kicks with added leather seats and that I liked. Perfect size and the after market leather was wonderful but, no roof and no fancy audio system. So it moves down the list. Enjoyed the Bose system in the Suburban I drove and the top of the line Seltos has that Bose set-up, a plus in that vehicles column.
But, still waiting on word if VW plans to bring the 2020 Golf over to America and will it have the Beats audio? Feel I need to wait and see before I do anything going forward. The changes it's supposed to get make me want to wait. Also might have to consider getting a GTI if in fact VW doesn't send the Golf SE over here to the states, not my first choice but need to drive one to see if I could live with one. But one good thing, the short list is getting shorter!

stickguy

we aren't leasing it so that doesn't matter. At least the MSRP is not in the stratosphere. How long until some modest discounts, probably depends on gas prices so hopefully they are still low when it comes out! I honestly have no clue how popular it is going to be. Could be the hottest thing ever, or they could pile up on the back lots. Just hopefully there is enough supply that some dealer will want to sell bad enough to knock 10% off!

stickguy

Sandy, just try the GTI. Will tell you what you need to know about the styling in and out, technology, radio. Only real difference to the regular model when (if) it finally arrives is likely a little less scoot, a little softer ride, and different seats.

benjaminh

A preview of the CR-V hybrid....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unoIkaKGP7M

stickguy

that is a nasty color. why would they pick that one to display?

benjaminh

What might that color be called? The milk of magnesia special?

stickguy

nice review but I think he is way off on price ($3-5K upcharge). It basically has the Accord hybrid system, and that is a $1,600 add on in the Accord so seems logical will be the same on the CRV. And that is $400 LESS than the 2.0t motor costs. So seems reasonable to me! Will get some $ back on gas, but I will look at it as paying for more HP!

an EXL MSRP would be about $34,200 most likely. Competitive for what you get.

stickguy

I always called that battleship gray.

28firefighter

The Cement color is definitely in right now, but not a fan on that particular vehicle...

corvette

I can't see a $3 to $5k upcharge, either. I don't think they charge that much on the RAV4. Also interesting to see that you don't get hood struts even with the upgraded powertrain. I thought, at one time, Honda included them on V6 Accords but not the four bangers?

corvette

28firefighter said:

The Cement color is definitely in right now, but not a fan on that particular vehicle...

Yes, probably would've gotten my upcoming punch in a similar color if the dealer had one in stock.

stickguy

well, at least without struts, no worries about them failing when you keep it a long time! That is one thing that never meant that much to me. More symbolic than anything maybe.

if they add $4k for the hybrid, they will grow moss on the far reaches of the back lot because that will not sell.

benjaminh

Yeah, I agree it'll be c. $1600 extra for the hybrid. Gas prices are already low, and might go lower if the economy slows down this year. If gas goes to c. $2k a gallon, hybrids even with a low upcharge might languish on the lots and eventually be discounted.

stickguy

works for me. That is when you want to buy one!

ronsteve

stickguy said:

that is a nasty color. why would they pick that one to display?

stickguy said:

I always called that battleship gray.

Almost looks more like no-sale blue.

breld

Sonic Gray. It’s been available on the Civic Sport hatch for awhile, on the Type R since 2019, and now newly available in the 2020 CRV.

I like it.

suydam

I call it “invisible in a parking lot”. Although white is such a popular color in California that it can be difficult to find my Volt in the mall sometimes.

xwesx

28firefighter said:

The Cement color is definitely in right now, but not a fan on that particular vehicle...

Yeah, that's what we had on our Charger rental last fall. It worked okay on that car, but I certainly would not buy one that way unless it was one of those "the stars aligned" deals.

oldfarmer50

benjaminh said:

The CR-V hybrid should be impressive, because not only will it be by far the most efficient CR-V, it will also be the most powerful and fastest. Unlike your Acura RDX you won't need to worry about premium fuel, and because the CR-V hybrid should get about 40 mpg city and hwy, it's a good guess that you might save $1000 a year on gas if you drive c. 12,000 miles a year or so. One catch is that discounts and lease incentives will likely be low to non-existent for the first few months it's out. But maybe in a few months discounts will be available.

(But when got my TLX Tech with a list price of $37,650, one of the cars I cross-shopped was the Accord hybrid EX, which was all-new at the time. Even though the Accord had a lower msrp, the lease price was much more a month for the Accord hybrid. In fact, the price was so much more a month that it was clear that gas savings would never get close to making up the difference. That, plus the fact that I liked nearly everything about the TLX much better than the Accord sealed the deal.)

When I was looking at used Ford Fusions I noticed the hybrid versions were priced less than the gas-only powered ones. Is there something wrong with them?

qbrozen

breld said:

Sonic Gray. It’s been available on the Civic Sport hatch for awhile, on the Type R since 2019, and now newly available in the 2020 CRV.

I like it.

I’m definitely a fan of the cement color, when done right on the right car, of course. I think it looks fine on the civic, I love it on the Charger, Challenger, and any pickup truck. Saw a Grand Cherokee just a couple of days ago with it and could not take my eyes off it. Great choice.

I saw one pedestrian sedan with it... I think a hyundai?... but the shade was off. It was too pale. Looked pretty bad.

stickguy

Farmer, it’s all about what’s selling. But the MSRP is almost always higher for a comparable hybrid.

Leasing on this one is not really an issue. Unless a Lease deal of the century falls into my lap, The wife really prefers buying her car and keeping it, with none of the lease term worries. Fine by me.

ab348

That paint color depends on the car it is used on. On a low-end econobox it would be depressing. But I saw a Stinger (I think) in that shade and I thought it looked good on it.

stickguy

I’ve discovered that we need to see cars outside to decide. Pictures on a computer just don’t translate well.

tjc78

The Cement color works on the Charger/Challenger but that's about where it ends for me.

It's pretty popular on the Tacoma and Tundra too.

I'll say this it is better than the Khaki color.

oldfarmer50

stickguy said:

Farmer, it’s all about what’s selling. But the MSRP is almost always higher for a comparable hybrid.

Leasing on this one is not really an issue. Unless a Lease deal of the century falls into my lap, The wife really prefers buying her car and keeping it, with none of the lease term worries. Fine by me.

I was looking at older models (circa 2013). It seems with comparable miles they were not asking similar prices to gas versions. The fact that a hybrid started out at a higher price when new makes me wonder even more if they don’t age well.

I’ve driven some Fusion hybrids and other than not knowing they are running because they’re so quiet they seems to drive as well as other models.

ab348

I know some hybrid vehicles take a beating in the used market because of fears the battery will eventually need replacing, which costs many thousands of dollars. Though I would be surprised if the same fears do not also depress the prices of used Nissans with the problematic CVT.