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Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)
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Glad the trip went OK, it's dicey weather this time of year. Watch out for those Texas fires!
(aren't those fires on the news in Texas?)
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
I like dark green cars too, some of the Toyota trucks/SUVS have had a nice dark green option over the years.....
That Accord--high miles, old tires, *lots of scratches and dings in the paint, and the alloys are totally scuffed to heck*. I totally don't know the prices, but if "retail" is $8800,
I'd be thinking $6K-ish--maybe-- to take on a 100K miles, 8-9 y.o. Accord. And I'd start deducting from that for the tires, paint, etc. I think if you paid $8K for this gem they'd do cartwheels all the way to the bank, & then hold their breaths until the check cleared.
The LTD 4WD with only 44K would be a raging bargain in my area at $14K. It would go for around $17K in a private sale, and probably $20K or so properly prepped and sold by a dealer.
The new one got huge, too big for my purposes, and for those of many 4Runner devotees over the years. OTOH, Toyota did pull in a whole DIFFERENT crowd of buyers (a slightly bigger crowd) by supersizing it, and it didn't hurt that they superengined it at the same time. The upcoming FJ is the proper successor to the 2002 4Runner, not the 2003 4Runner.
As for the Accord, well, this is why I don't usually go to dealers for used cars...I am a sucker! But I did like the looks of it, and it drove without a hiccup or any funny sounds or smells. To me, it seems that if average retail is $8800, they should take $7000-7500 without a protest, and I don't know that they won't because I haven't even tried yet. But I am not sure there is any point making a $7000 offer on a car stickered at $10,9. Am I just wasting my time?
BTW, I hear you on the $6K-ish offer, but I certainly feel like the car would be worth it if I could get it for $7K. It is a nice car with CARFAX and a 3-month B2B warranty included at that price. I figure with a little care it will give me five or six years without a problem, and besides, by then I will probably have gotten bored and traded anyway! :-P
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
My brother lives in Dallas and really likes Texas. When I do my drive from Tennessee, I'll stop in Dallas to see my brother. Once I leave Dallas towards El Paso, it's a mighty long stretch from Dallas to El Paso, you drive all day and haven't even left the state!
Mark
He says they use KBB to govern their purchase price, and so use KBB to price them on the lot. I asked him why their car was $1000 over Kelly, he had no answer. Yup.
I told him a $7500 price would prevent me from looking anywhere else, knowing he would say "go look elsewhere", which is exactly what he did! He hinted they would probably take an offer in the $9K range. I dunno, at $9K I would take a pass. At $8K, it would still be in the running.
For now, I am going to go look at a couple of much newer, lower-miled, gas-sipping Corollas. I am not fussed about having leather and all that stuff - I would rather get 38 to the gallon as long as my car has A/C, CD, and cruise. I just really liked the color.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
But that gives me two more days here........
nippononly: I can't help but think that Accord is overpriced. Especially compared to what I have seen them go for around here. I know Cali is a different market but WOW. A friend of mine bought a 2000 Accord EX V6 with 80,000 miles for $9500. It was in a minor accident before but it looked and drove great.
Well I bought a car. I will leave it up to you all to guess what we did.
Still, I can understand the allure of an attractive color.
Sometime the right color can make or break a car. Chrysler has this Patriot Blue that looks good to me on anything,even the wife's minivan. On a minivan the color needs to be good because that's alot of paint.
I say that you and Gee traded the ole Lexus in for a new TL now that the Lexus has been all fixed up! So now you have a driveway full of new cars... the MDX, the Accord and the new TL.
Mark
If not, then you went ahead and got the IS250 stick shift.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
My money is also on the TSX 6-sp.
You are going to have to think outside the box on this one.
Hint: Gee owned one before.
Ok, an RX-8, brother to the RX-7.
My next guess was going to be a Mazda6speed, but no one has owned one of these before.
1991 Toyota MR2
1987 Toyota Corolla FX16 GTS
1988 Toyota Corolla FX16 GTS
1990 Toyota Tercel
1982 Toyota Tercel
1987 Toyota Celica GTS
1997 Toyota RAV4
1993 Acura Vigor
1990 Acura Integra
1991 Acura Integra
1992 Acura Integra
1994 Acura Integra
2000 Chevrolet Silverado
2001 Mazda Protege
1991 Nissan 300ZX TT
1989 Honda Civic wagon
1993 Honda Civic EX
1996 Honda Civic EX
1998 Honda Civic EX
2000 Honda Civic Si (black)
2000 Honda Civic Si (blue)
2002 Honda Civic Si
2002 Honda Civic SI
2003 Honda Civic Si
1991 Honda Accord EX
1993 Honda Accord EX
1999 Honda Accord EX
2001 Honda Accord EX V6
2003 Honda Accord EX
2004 Honda Accord EX-L (automatic)
2004 Honda Accord EX-L (manual)
2004 Honda Odyssey EX-RES
1994 Lexus LS400
1995 Lexus GS300
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1976 Toyota Corona
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1986 RX-7
1988 RX-7 Anniversary Edition
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2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
Yeah, right. Take a 100K, 8 y.o. Accord with dings & scuffed alloys to them & see what they'll pay--I bet their whole attitude changes drastically. Suddenly, it'll be a $5K car, they're not worth as much as used Accords in Michigan, or Lithuania, yada yada.
I think you're lucky they turned down your $7500. You can buy a brand new base Accord for what, $18K (I think), or brand new Civic for around that. So $7500 for a 100K, 8 y.o. one just doesn't compute somehow.....
P.S. Don't just go on what the books say. Ask Terry on the RWTIV board, or there are other people here who seem to know the values of cheaper, older cars. I really overpaid for a used Honda once 'cause I bought it on a whim, then it needed shocks, & had paint issues, & I think I ate about $2.5k when I sold it a year or 2 later.....for something I paid $5.6K for......
Kind of as I figured, the Mrs. letting me go car shopping was a little bit of a tease. I had all sorts of cool things on my short list to choose from. But not to be at the immediate moment. I'm going to be all grown up and responsible and pay down the Home Eq Line of Credit some with the spare cash.
BTW, my bet is on a new Civic Si as well, if it wasn't a TL of TSX.
-Jason
Actually Anony ended up buying.....
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Our Accord. She paid off the lease and we are gonna drive it a least until the 08's come out. We are coming up on our mileage cap pretty quickly so we decided we might as well go ahead and buy out the lease before interest rates climb any further.
Those Civic Si guesses were pretty good though. The only problem is that I can't drive the new Civic. That funky parking brake lever digs into my leg.
I don't really follow Honda's and I had to take a second look at the black beauty that was before me. I would have never thought that was a Civic.. it looks a lot bigger than past Civic's.
Mark
The new Si is awesome. It makes the 01-05 Civic look just plain boring. Even more boring than it was before. Honda brought the Civic line up to the standards the 93-95 and the 96-00 generations set.
Can't wait to see what you guys get next!
Mark
I looked at HandA, and they had a nice package listed for ~$450 (springs/shocks I think), but it said for the V6 only.
Might not do anything, but I figure that customizing it a bit will keep me interested, and help us become as one.
I will probably get the lip spoiler when it warms up, assuming installation isn't going to be too much, just to give it some flavor.
Amazingly nice car to drive, but it wouldn't hurt to be firmed up a bit.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
BTW, you do have a pretty nice collection of cars there already.....
How do you like the Accord so far? Do you miss the Scion?
Did use it for shopping trip yesterday. It drives nice, and is growing on me. Can't wait to get it out on some open roads to let it stretch the old legs.
Washed and waxed it today (finishing the prep job the dealer should have done), and discovered that the tries were a bit low (ditto about the prep job), so that firmed up the handling a bit. Real comfortable ride, and a great interior.
Love the XM too. Don't miss the Scion at all really.
I think I will throw on the spoiler, but I doubt I will do anything with the suspension (took much effort, and not really cheap). Handles well enough fro normal around town use, and I don't plan to auto-X with it!
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
I don't think you're sick. Car shopping/buying can become a stressful (& expensive!) drag sometimes.......btw, how's Texas?
I ebayed a set of 20's for the MDX. A set of Gianelle Flush 10's. I got em for $600. Not bad for a set of new wheels. The tires are gonna cost more than the wheels.
The Lexus is purring like a kitten now. I need to get a few suspension bits replaced and she'll be good as new.
Mark
For a little payback, I saw in Car & Driver the Accord 6 speed came in second in one of their comparisons.It beat out the TSX and Mazda6Speed.The only cat to beat it was the Jetta GLI. :confuse:
Since you have title in hand , maybe you can live with the new tail lights.Just trying to help.
I made it thru 2005 with only one car purchace. If I can make it thru 2006, I may reward myself with that back up car I have been wanting.
Terry.
The old style is growing on me now that I see it everyday, and actually doesn't look too bad. Actually, the '05 was a big improvement over the 03-04, because it is all red (with a clear square for the back up light), instead of having a band of clear across the bottom. That little change helped the looks quite a bit.
Not that I spend much time thinking about this stuff or anything...
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Actually, it might be a good thing for my son. He can learn to drive in 1.5 years, so it could be my excuse to start shopping again, or at least bottom feeding the used car market (I'm getting all tingling thinking about it).
I have been working on my mother to give us her '95ish Saturn when it is time, but I need a fall back position. About time she got a new car anyway.
Just to show the bug is genetic, she is 73, still drives a stick (and won't give it up), and really wants a Mini for a new car.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.