I might actually pick the sport pack moonroof RWD car with the AT, over the Xi slicktop if I had to pick one, and everything else was equal. Really depends on what I think I would miss the most, and at this point, I'm used to the slushbox! And at least the BMW has a really good one.
Though at this point an E46 is getting into antique toy territory, so if I decide to do that, it better be exactly what I want (and makes more sense to hold out for a stick if the DD is a 2 pedal model)
I assume you have seen the M2 CS with increased horsepower and suspension changes and more carbon fiber.
Looks like Dinan offers even higher HP via tunes but not the adjustable suspension from the M3/4
Yes, but you really pay for the upgrades. I've entered several charitable car raffles. If I win a C8 it's going on the block immeditely and I'll be ordering a CS
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
and this, I loved these back in the days. Would not mind having one now, but might have trouble adjusting to how tiny it is! 1 owner and reasonable miles are bonuses, as is unmodified. But definitely needs some serious TLC.
You guys with your station wagons. Next you’ll be making Mini vans cool again.
That old Japanese iron continues to amaze me with the prices they bring. Are you sure you’d enjoy driving a car with 91 hp.? Maybe get a nice K car wagon and combine both.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
I assume you have seen the M2 CS with increased horsepower and suspension changes and more carbon fiber.
Looks like Dinan offers even higher HP via tunes but not the adjustable suspension from the M3/4
Yes, but you really pay for the upgrades. I've entered several charitable car raffles. If I win a C8 it's going on the block immeditely and I'll be ordering a CS
After you pay taxes on your winnings of course.🥵
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
and this, I loved these back in the days. Would not mind having one now, but might have trouble adjusting to how tiny it is! 1 owner and reasonable miles are bonuses, as is unmodified. But definitely needs some serious TLC.
You guys with your station wagons. Next you’ll be making Mini vans cool again.
That old Japanese iron continues to amaze me with the prices they bring. Are you sure you’d enjoy driving a car with 91 hp.? Maybe get a nice K car wagon and combine both.
Yup. I drive one when new. Quite zippy. Manual trans, and weighs very little. No, it won’t out drag your mustang, but it keeps up with traffic just fine.
Edit: looked it up. 8.5 seconds 0-60. So perfectly normal economy car of today range.
I remember my dad having a Fiat X19 that I learned to drive as my first car. I remember having a rubber mallet in it to smack the starter solenoid if it failed to start.
I also remember pulling up behind an Ashplund (?sp) tree truck that was towing a shredder behind it. The truck started to back up and I tried and tried to get it into reverse. The shredder made nice grooves up the hood of the x19. Awkward
The weather over the last week in Western WA has finally highlighted for me the two weak spots of the i3 in terms of handling as we've had some really nasty winds up north of the city (and more coming) as well as heavy, steady rain. Two things:
(1) The narrow tires that help with efficiency and handling normally are quickly overwhelmed by any substantive water on the ground. Not so much from a hydroplaning perspective, but rather just pulling the car off course.
(2) The narrow-and-tall nature of the design means that in gusty winds this thing blows all over the place - I'd say anything over 10 mph wind wise and you can really feel it.
Neither of these is fatal, but given the weather we've had over the last couple weeks I've certainly been preferring to drive the Outback when it is available. I went into this knowing it probably wasn't going to be the best all-weather vehicle.
2025 Jetta GLI Autobahn, 2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xE
The weather over the last week in Western WA has finally highlighted for me the two weak spots of the i3 in terms of handling as we've had some really nasty winds up north of the city (and more coming) as well as heavy, steady rain. Two things:
(1) The narrow tires that help with efficiency and handling normally are quickly overwhelmed by any substantive water on the ground. Not so much from a hydroplaning perspective, but rather just pulling the car off course.
(2) The narrow-and-tall nature of the design means that in gusty winds this thing blows all over the place - I'd say anything over 10 mph wind wise and you can really feel it.
Neither of these is fatal, but given the weather we've had over the last couple weeks I've certainly been preferring to drive the Outback when it is available. I went into this knowing it probably wasn't going to be the best all-weather vehicle.
When does the lease on the i3 end?
2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech
I think that Fiat is a great answer for what you and your wife are looking for. We drove them when they first came out - hard not to have fun with that small size. And it certainly has some character.
I had a 500 convertible as a rental car in Corsica a few years back. Fun car, easy to park, you sit up high like almost a tiny crossover. Perfect for the narrow roads there. It wasn't fast, however.
The drivetrain is just Chrysler stuff. I assume same as in a Dart?
Kind of. The Dart did not have the non-turbo 1.4. Would not have been well received in that application. The 500 is just 2400 lb, so they can get away with it. The Dodge used the turbo version from the Abarth.
I test drove a 500 when they first came out. It was a hoot whipping it around the little test track the dealer had.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
LOL, is that the price or the estimated first year repair costs? I’m ashamed to admit that when I was looking for convertibles I briefly considered a Fiat drop top.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
OK, in our effort to downsize we parted with our trusty 2003 Trail Blazer with 155,000 miles and traded in our 2007 Lexus ES 350 last week. Sitting side by side in out garage now is our 2016 CRV EXL with a whopping 15,000 miles....and.....Another CRV! this one is a white 2020 CRV EX...no leather! Hopefully I'll resist the urge to buy a third car that looks like fun. The Trailblazer was starting to nickle and dime us and so was the Lexus. Those nickles and dimes are more like 1000.00 every time something would happen. Last winter on a dry street, the TrailBlazer decided to throw itself into 4WD low range all by itself going 40 MPH! That was 1200.00! The Lexus dropped the passenger side window off it's track! Get this.....In order to fix this the entire glass and regulator need to be replaced! Lexus wanted 1000.00! I had them just disable it since I rarely lower that window anyway! Yes, I disclosed this to my old store where I traded it in. The 2020 CRV is MUCH different than the 2016 in a lot of ways. The technology is amazing and complex too! I'm still trying to figure it out. It has adaptive cruise control that is so spooky to use I doubt that I ever will. I was appalled to learn it has no CD player! How will I listen to my massive collection of over 300 CDS? It has Apple Play (whatever that is?) I have a newer I Phone. Oh man, I miss my 1952 Chevy!
The Fiat isn't for me, but if you have the means to fix it then the value proposition is hard to argue with for a little convertible.
No doubt! The car is practically new, and, in the photos anyway, it looks like it! Strange "convertible" top on it, but definitely unique. It's like a Tesla, but without the glass.
2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
OK, in our effort to downsize we parted with our trusty 2003 Trail Blazer with 155,000 miles and traded in our 2007 Lexus ES 350 last week. Sitting side by side in out garage now is our 2016 CRV EXL with a whopping 15,000 miles....and.....Another CRV! this one is a white 2020 CRV EX...no leather! Hopefully I'll resist the urge to buy a third car that looks like fun. The Trailblazer was starting to nickle and dime us and so was the Lexus. Those nickles and dimes are more like 1000.00 every time something would happen. Last winter on a dry street, the TrailBlazer decided to throw itself into 4WD low range all by itself going 40 MPH! That was 1200.00! The Lexus dropped the passenger side window off it's track! Get this.....In order to fix this the entire glass and regulator need to be replaced! Lexus wanted 1000.00! I had them just disable it since I rarely lower that window anyway! Yes, I disclosed this to my old store where I traded it in. The 2020 CRV is MUCH different than the 2016 in a lot of ways. The technology is amazing and complex too! I'm still trying to figure it out. It has adaptive cruise control that is so spooky to use I doubt that I ever will. I was appalled to learn it has no CD player! How will I listen to my massive collection of over 300 CDS? It has Apple Play (whatever that is?) I have a newer I Phone. Oh man, I miss my 1952 Chevy!
Congrats. For the music, just copy them all to a flash drive and leave it in the car.
Sitting side by side in out garage now is our 2016 CRV EXL with a whopping 15,000 miles....and.....Another CRV! this one is a white 2020 CRV EX...no leather! Hopefully I'll resist the urge to buy a third car that looks like fun.
Nice; congrats! You may need to update your handle from "isellhondas" to "ibuyhondas."
2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
I've searched and it seems most owners have had positive experiences with their 500s. Most naysayers don't even own them and are just repeating past biases they have heard.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
So, hive mind, thinking about potential replacements for the i3. Not really thinking of doing anything now, but definitely all over the place a la @stickguy.
Here is what I am thinking off the top of my head. (1) Buy an older daily driver something <$10k - thinking of that 2008 528xi 6MT I posted the other day. Downside to that is it is old, maintenance won't be cheap, and I imagine my running cost when all is said and done will still be in the 300-400 range. Anything I get here needs to have a little personality.
(2) Hack a lease on a BMW loaner of some kind - either a 330 or 540 (if I can find one). Downside here is that it will be considerably more than I pay now (everything is...) and they just don't get me all that excited.
(3) Pick up a Toyota Tacoma lease - my quick napkin math says if I can find a TRD Sport or Off-Road with Premium and Advanced tech at invoice, then I should be able to lease it for just under $300/month first month and MSDs at signing for 24 months. This is most intriguing for me because of the price point and I've always kind of wanted one in Cement or Army Green. Downside is that I really don't see myself using the utility of a pickup much, if ever, and it might annoy my wife as she isn't much of a pickup person.
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So, hive mind, thinking about potential replacements for the i3. Not really thinking of doing anything now, but definitely all over the place a la @stickguy.
Here is what I am thinking off the top of my head. (1) Buy an older daily driver something
3) SR V6 4WD Double Cab... Killer residuals. MSRP is $34,XXX.
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I really prefer the facelift E46 though (‘03 I think for the wagon? Maybe ‘02?)
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Though at this point an E46 is getting into antique toy territory, so if I decide to do that, it better be exactly what I want (and makes more sense to hold out for a stick if the DD is a 2 pedal model)
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
That old Japanese iron continues to amaze me with the prices they bring. Are you sure you’d enjoy driving a car with 91 hp.? Maybe get a nice K car wagon and combine both.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
They are coming in the morning and plans are to return it either that night or over the weekend.
That ends a 9 year run with Buick (2012 LaCrosse, 2015 Enclave, 2017 Enclave).
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https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/829653842/overview/
Talking with seller through email currently.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Edit: looked it up. 8.5 seconds 0-60. So perfectly normal economy car of today range.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
I remember my dad having a Fiat X19 that I learned to drive as my first car. I remember having a rubber mallet in it to smack the starter solenoid if it failed to start.
I also remember pulling up behind an Ashplund (?sp) tree truck that was towing a shredder behind it. The truck started to back up and I tried and tried to get it into reverse. The shredder made nice grooves up the hood of the x19. Awkward
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(1) The narrow tires that help with efficiency and handling normally are quickly overwhelmed by any substantive water on the ground. Not so much from a hydroplaning perspective, but rather just pulling the car off course.
(2) The narrow-and-tall nature of the design means that in gusty winds this thing blows all over the place - I'd say anything over 10 mph wind wise and you can really feel it.
Neither of these is fatal, but given the weather we've had over the last couple weeks I've certainly been preferring to drive the Outback when it is available. I went into this knowing it probably wasn't going to be the best all-weather vehicle.
2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2025 BRZ - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman
25 NX 450h+ / 24 Sienna Plat AWD / 23 Civic Type-R / 21 Boxster GTS 4.0 / 03 Montero Ltd
I test drove a 500 when they first came out. It was a hoot whipping it around the little test track the dealer had.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Plus, a little NA 4 banger is going to be pretty simple and easy to work on. Hopefully.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
I do that with a rental car or U haul also if I don’t walk out with a full check in receipt printed out.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
But who is counting?
@isellhondas
Congrats!
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It was not an easy task.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
It just puts me off of them.... I'm sure it's a hoot, otherwise.
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Here is what I am thinking off the top of my head.
(1) Buy an older daily driver something <$10k - thinking of that 2008 528xi 6MT I posted the other day. Downside to that is it is old, maintenance won't be cheap, and I imagine my running cost when all is said and done will still be in the 300-400 range. Anything I get here needs to have a little personality.
(2) Hack a lease on a BMW loaner of some kind - either a 330 or 540 (if I can find one). Downside here is that it will be considerably more than I pay now (everything is...) and they just don't get me all that excited.
(3) Pick up a Toyota Tacoma lease - my quick napkin math says if I can find a TRD Sport or Off-Road with Premium and Advanced tech at invoice, then I should be able to lease it for just under $300/month first month and MSDs at signing for 24 months. This is most intriguing for me because of the price point and I've always kind of wanted one in Cement or Army Green. Downside is that I really don't see myself using the utility of a pickup much, if ever, and it might annoy my wife as she isn't much of a pickup person.
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2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
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2012 Forester 2.5X w/manual transmission
125K miles.
Fairly well equipped... power everything... auto-dimming/compass mirror.
It really does look as good as the picture. Single owner, with the Carfax showing a ton of maintenance, including a new clutch at 97K miles.
$6315 + $250 doc fee + tax/title.
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