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  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 3,806
    What is this “paid time off” that you speak of? I have only unpaid time off
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,237
    breld said:

    It’s a sunny day here so I wanted to take the Supra out and do some browsing.

    Took another look at the 2018 Long Beach Blue M2 that I drove a few weeks ago. Figured I could take a look at the color in the daytime this time. I’d prefer white, but I like the blue too. It’d be nice to get into a manual again, but it’s way overpriced (as are pretty much all manual M2s it seems).

    Stopped by an Audi dealership that has had an X4 M40i for months now. Price keeps getting lowered and it’s probably a pretty decent buy at this point. But I didn’t see it on their lot and didn’t want to bother anyone to ask.

    Finally, figured I’d check this out...

    https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/833660111/overview/

    That was striking in person. And actually seems to be priced pretty well, though more than I’m comfortable spending. But did seem like a decent deal compared to the pricing of used M2 Comps.

    And all that driving around made me appreciate the Supra and the price I paid for it. Which was part of the point of getting out.

    Wow, that 3 year old M3 is $56,000? What did it sell for new?

    M2 manuals are overpriced? I guess they are counting on true enthusiasts to be competing for them whereas most regular cars with manuals are tough to sell. I guess BMW dealers know their market.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,313
    corvette said:

    Hoovie's latest video--he's just like a kid in a candy store. I think he brought Weezard along to be the voice of reason, but he ended up being an enabler like we all are with each other here. :p

    Who are these people of whom you speak, and why should I care? Are they members here? B)

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,237
    pensfan83 said:

    I'm pretty content with the current fleet so it's unlikely there's going to be any changes until August. Even those cheap Camaro lease deals didn't really motivate me to finally scratch the V8/RWD itch, albeit there were also extraneous factors involved

    Sit in a Camaro before you buy it.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,237
    stickguy said:

    pensfan83 said:

    I'm pretty content with the current fleet so it's unlikely there's going to be any changes until August. Even those cheap Camaro lease deals didn't really motivate me to finally scratch the V8/RWD itch, albeit there were also extraneous factors involved

    I am holding out with my fleet of 1. I mentioned while out walking with the wife and daughter yesterday about hoping things open up a bit so can more easily stop and browse. Wife's feedback was, "why do we need another car anytime soon?" I had mentioned the 4/1 target date. Guess she missed that! I will take me at least that long to decide what I want anyway. Though I do plan to start monitoring used cars soon, just in case something I can't resist falls into my lap!
    It must have been tough walking home after she cut the legs out from under you. At least my wife would follow up that statement with “do what you want, you always do anyway”.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,237

    I shot my shot but the dealer didn’t bite. We ended $2k apart.

    I did that once and they called me 3 days later.

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  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 3,806

    breld said:

    It’s a sunny day here so I wanted to take the Supra out and do some browsing.

    Took another look at the 2018 Long Beach Blue M2 that I drove a few weeks ago. Figured I could take a look at the color in the daytime this time. I’d prefer white, but I like the blue too. It’d be nice to get into a manual again, but it’s way overpriced (as are pretty much all manual M2s it seems).

    Stopped by an Audi dealership that has had an X4 M40i for months now. Price keeps getting lowered and it’s probably a pretty decent buy at this point. But I didn’t see it on their lot and didn’t want to bother anyone to ask.

    Finally, figured I’d check this out...

    https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/833660111/overview/

    That was striking in person. And actually seems to be priced pretty well, though more than I’m comfortable spending. But did seem like a decent deal compared to the pricing of used M2 Comps.

    And all that driving around made me appreciate the Supra and the price I paid for it. Which was part of the point of getting out.

    Wow, that 3 year old M3 is $56,000? What did it sell for new?

    M2 manuals are overpriced? I guess they are counting on true enthusiasts to be competing for them whereas most regular cars with manuals are tough to sell. I guess BMW dealers know their market.
    That M3 is a Shortline Virus Free car. Nice selling point.
  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,237

    Happy New Year everyone. Please, stay safe this year and hopefully this pandemic will come to an end sooner than later.
    OF, heard from my lead today as he was asked to work with two other guys. Wasn't that busy at all, they left at 2:15! We were busy on Wednesday but Tuesday, not so much. Took 8 hours of PTO for today since I've never used any so far except when they gave us what we had in March when we were furloughed. Decided I wanted a somewhat regular check for these two weeks and my boss had no issues with it. I did volunteer to work today bu the one group that didn't work last Thursday was worked today which was fair. I still do not want to be a lead driver as of yet, just want to be given a set of keys and told where to go! Unlike Hertz, they get no extra pay for it, as far as I know, so would just rather be a regular crew member. That might change one day as the boss did want me to do it though I respectfully declined since I wanted to wait a bit longer. Still having a bit of trouble learning all the location numbers as there's about 30 of them, give or take. I'd rather be told an address as I find that easier, probably due to my letter carrier brain. Have found that after a couple of times going to a new location, give or take, I can get my way back there with no problem. A few times I've been told just the location number, naturally, and have gone to the wrong one! They just laugh about it but having a slight mental block learning them all. I've got a list I carry with me and also put the pic of them all in my phone so it's easy just to look either place. But after remembering a few that we frequent, I draw a blank on the rest. Just best I don't lead at this point!
    One thing I did notice, people are traveling right now! All the rental lots at PBI have a minimal amount of extra vehicles in their lots and most locations are about the same. And I've seen at our lot at PBI, a line of folks getting off the shuttle buses and getting in line to pick up their reservations. But it is season down here in South Florida so its expected for the next few months. And folks will start a mass exodus back home later on today and all weekend. Schools open up on Monday and life gets back to our new normal.

    We had an easy day Thursday, a few longish runs and lunch at one of our many favorite delis. More like a vacation than work but isn’t that every day. People must be renting more or dealers are buying less because we’re putting wholesale inventory back into service to rent.

    To top it off we got a government mandate raise to $12.50/hr. In NY that probably won’t cover the taxes on the rest of my income.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,237
    mjfloyd1 said:

    What is this “paid time off” that you speak of? I have only unpaid time off

    At our rate of pay you could probably find more money in your couch cushions. :'(

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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,314
    ab348 said:

    corvette said:

    Hoovie's latest video--he's just like a kid in a candy store. I think he brought Weezard along to be the voice of reason, but he ended up being an enabler like we all are with each other here. :p

    Who are these people of whom you speak, and why should I care? Are they members here? B)
    Nope, part of the Wichita YouTube car mafia.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,517
    pensfan83 said:

    I'm pretty content with the current fleet so it's unlikely there's going to be any changes until August. Even those cheap Camaro lease deals didn't really motivate me to finally scratch the V8/RWD itch, albeit there were also extraneous factors involved

    If they put the same lease deal on a Mustang GT, that would be hard to pass up.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,430
    hopefully later in Q1 some too good to pass up deal pops up, on something I actually want. Maybe one of the EVs, or a PU, or a Mustang GT would be fine! Or something else fun. The Leaf offer (don't think that applied in NJ?) was good. The Bolt offer from the fall was killer. Even a couple years back, Rodo had a deal listed on a Fusion hybrid (Titanium, or the 2nd tier trim) for about ~210 down, $210/month with a whopping 18K miles/year.

    At least being carless makes it a lot easier to pull the trigger on a whim!

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,515
    Happy New Year everyone! I too am eager to see the 2020 punch list and what the total was for 2020.

    Before we start blindly guessing, let’s see who has a lease that ends during CY 2021.

    Put me down for a 2021 punch. The lease is up on my 2019 Tacoma in September. I’m most likely going to replace it with a full size pickup. I’ll have to test drive, then keep my eyes on the lease programs. I’ll look at the Tundra, F150, RAM 1500, & even a Silverado. I also want 4 full doors. I think if I do that, then I could get away with the standard size bed.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,430
    I'm sure I guessed way low again this year. Tradition!

    Bradd, isn't a standard (short) bed 1/2 ton at least as big as the bed on the Tacoma?

    I know I will get a punch next year. Hard to imagine not doing it.

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,351
    breld said:

    It’s a sunny day here so I wanted to take the Supra out and do some browsing.

    Took another look at the 2018 Long Beach Blue M2 that I drove a few weeks ago. Figured I could take a look at the color in the daytime this time. I’d prefer white, but I like the blue too. It’d be nice to get into a manual again, but it’s way overpriced (as are pretty much all manual M2s it seems).

    Stopped by an Audi dealership that has had an X4 M40i for months now. Price keeps getting lowered and it’s probably a pretty decent buy at this point. But I didn’t see it on their lot and didn’t want to bother anyone to ask.

    Finally, figured I’d check this out...

    https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/833660111/overview/

    That was striking in person. And actually seems to be priced pretty well, though more than I’m comfortable spending. But did seem like a decent deal compared to the pricing of used M2 Comps.

    And all that driving around made me appreciate the Supra and the price I paid for it. Which was part of the point of getting out.

    Still more than I want to spend, but this CPO M2 Comp seems to be a decent deal.

    That M3 does have the Competition Package- but I'd sure want to get a look at the service history and get a PPI while I'm at it. M cars get a service at 1,200 miles; and I'd want to verify that this car received it. It's an LCI(facelift) model, so it's a bit nicer to drive than the earlier cars.

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  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 3,806
    edited January 2021
    Carfax shows two owners - one for 19 months and one for 13 months. No 1200 mile service record on carfax. I only see a service at 15200 ish miles by second owner.
  • pensfan83pensfan83 Member Posts: 2,767

    breld said:

    It’s a sunny day here so I wanted to take the Supra out and do some browsing.

    Took another look at the 2018 Long Beach Blue M2 that I drove a few weeks ago. Figured I could take a look at the color in the daytime this time. I’d prefer white, but I like the blue too. It’d be nice to get into a manual again, but it’s way overpriced (as are pretty much all manual M2s it seems).

    Stopped by an Audi dealership that has had an X4 M40i for months now. Price keeps getting lowered and it’s probably a pretty decent buy at this point. But I didn’t see it on their lot and didn’t want to bother anyone to ask.

    Finally, figured I’d check this out...

    https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/833660111/overview/

    That was striking in person. And actually seems to be priced pretty well, though more than I’m comfortable spending. But did seem like a decent deal compared to the pricing of used M2 Comps.

    And all that driving around made me appreciate the Supra and the price I paid for it. Which was part of the point of getting out.

    Still more than I want to spend, but this CPO M2 Comp seems to be a decent deal.

    That M3 does have the Competition Package- but I'd sure want to get a look at the service history and get a PPI while I'm at it. M cars get a service at 1,200 miles; and I'd want to verify that this car received it. It's an LCI(facelift) model, so it's a bit nicer to drive than the earlier cars.
    There's one near Youngstown with roughly a third of the miles for the same price.

    https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/823143622/overview/?aff=share_text
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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,918
    I think, for 2021, we need to have two categories....

    One for the total number of punches for the whole group

    And a second guess specifically for the @breld punches

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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,931

    breld said:

    It’s a sunny day here so I wanted to take the Supra out and do some browsing.

    Took another look at the 2018 Long Beach Blue M2 that I drove a few weeks ago. Figured I could take a look at the color in the daytime this time. I’d prefer white, but I like the blue too. It’d be nice to get into a manual again, but it’s way overpriced (as are pretty much all manual M2s it seems).

    Stopped by an Audi dealership that has had an X4 M40i for months now. Price keeps getting lowered and it’s probably a pretty decent buy at this point. But I didn’t see it on their lot and didn’t want to bother anyone to ask.

    Finally, figured I’d check this out...

    https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/833660111/overview/

    That was striking in person. And actually seems to be priced pretty well, though more than I’m comfortable spending. But did seem like a decent deal compared to the pricing of used M2 Comps.

    And all that driving around made me appreciate the Supra and the price I paid for it. Which was part of the point of getting out.

    Still more than I want to spend, but this CPO M2 Comp seems to be a decent deal.

    That M3 does have the Competition Package- but I'd sure want to get a look at the service history and get a PPI while I'm at it. M cars get a service at 1,200 miles; and I'd want to verify that this car received it. It's an LCI(facelift) model, so it's a bit nicer to drive than the earlier cars.
    I figured and hoped you’d chime in. What year was the LCI for the M3 and what changed?

    For my purposes and the way I drive, a 2016-2018 M2 would be just fine. For that matter, a nice M240i would as well. Basically, if I’d like something like my Supra but with a manual, a 2-series is an obvious choice. I do like the aesthetic improvements on the Comp - seats and new grill and mirror caps.

    A lot of the Comp’s appeal is value driven actually - this local Ford dealer is asking $48k for a 24k mile 2018 M2. That may be a little high, but it’s not all that much more than what similar ones are listed at on Carvana, Carmax and Vroom...and those listings don’t seem to last long (not that I stalk those listings :) ). So...$4-5k more for a 2019 or 2020 Comp seems to be well worth it. I suspect they will hold their value better.

    I’m also thinking I’ll end up in another Miata RF at some point. For my driving habits, nothing gives the same thrill of revving up to the 7,500 redline and working that slick Mazda shifter...and finding yourself at a very legal 50 mph. :p

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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,931
    pensfan83 said:

    breld said:

    It’s a sunny day here so I wanted to take the Supra out and do some browsing.

    Took another look at the 2018 Long Beach Blue M2 that I drove a few weeks ago. Figured I could take a look at the color in the daytime this time. I’d prefer white, but I like the blue too. It’d be nice to get into a manual again, but it’s way overpriced (as are pretty much all manual M2s it seems).

    Stopped by an Audi dealership that has had an X4 M40i for months now. Price keeps getting lowered and it’s probably a pretty decent buy at this point. But I didn’t see it on their lot and didn’t want to bother anyone to ask.

    Finally, figured I’d check this out...

    https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/833660111/overview/

    That was striking in person. And actually seems to be priced pretty well, though more than I’m comfortable spending. But did seem like a decent deal compared to the pricing of used M2 Comps.

    And all that driving around made me appreciate the Supra and the price I paid for it. Which was part of the point of getting out.

    Still more than I want to spend, but this CPO M2 Comp seems to be a decent deal.

    That M3 does have the Competition Package- but I'd sure want to get a look at the service history and get a PPI while I'm at it. M cars get a service at 1,200 miles; and I'd want to verify that this car received it. It's an LCI(facelift) model, so it's a bit nicer to drive than the earlier cars.
    There's one near Youngstown with roughly a third of the miles for the same price.

    https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/823143622/overview/?aff=share_text

    How’d you know that is already on my “saved” list on cars.com? :)

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,351
    pensfan83 said:

    breld said:

    It’s a sunny day here so I wanted to take the Supra out and do some browsing.

    Took another look at the 2018 Long Beach Blue M2 that I drove a few weeks ago. Figured I could take a look at the color in the daytime this time. I’d prefer white, but I like the blue too. It’d be nice to get into a manual again, but it’s way overpriced (as are pretty much all manual M2s it seems).

    Stopped by an Audi dealership that has had an X4 M40i for months now. Price keeps getting lowered and it’s probably a pretty decent buy at this point. But I didn’t see it on their lot and didn’t want to bother anyone to ask.

    Finally, figured I’d check this out...

    https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/833660111/overview/

    That was striking in person. And actually seems to be priced pretty well, though more than I’m comfortable spending. But did seem like a decent deal compared to the pricing of used M2 Comps.

    And all that driving around made me appreciate the Supra and the price I paid for it. Which was part of the point of getting out.

    Still more than I want to spend, but this CPO M2 Comp seems to be a decent deal.

    That M3 does have the Competition Package- but I'd sure want to get a look at the service history and get a PPI while I'm at it. M cars get a service at 1,200 miles; and I'd want to verify that this car received it. It's an LCI(facelift) model, so it's a bit nicer to drive than the earlier cars.
    There's one near Youngstown with roughly a third of the miles for the same price.

    https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/823143622/overview/?aff=share_text
    I saw that one- the problem is that it’s white; I want either Hockenheim Silver or Sunset Orange.
    I’m old, crotchety, and I don’t want to settle when it comes to my next car.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,430
    before even clicking on the link, I knew that white one (which I like on that car) would have a boring black interior. I really hope to avoid cave like guts on the next car I get.

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,841
    This is what I offered on yesterday:
    https://www.audiseattle.com/new/Audi/2020-Audi-S3-437f0c670a0e0ae72d5a47119c3c0a80.htm

    I offered $2k DAS (first month, registration, taxes and fees) plus MSD and $440/month including tax and Audi care.

    They bottomed out at $507/month.

    It’s a strong deal for Seattle (11% effective discount before incentives) but I just don’t see the value at that price.
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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,454
    The latter number might be half of the former B)

    Likely no punches for me in 2021, unless something unforeseen comes my way. I'll technically be eligible for a pull forward by the end of the year, but I can't imagine I'll be taking that route unless there's a big change of circumstances/insane offer.
    Michaell said:

    I think, for 2021, we need to have two categories....

    One for the total number of punches for the whole group

    And a second guess specifically for the @breld punches

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,430
    I liked my son's A3. Great seats, nice tidy size.

    I saw a Q3 yesterday in that color blue. Striking. But black interior lets that S3 down. I would have to get the brown, or at least tan, interior with that. For me, a Q3 makes more sense.

    one total deal breaker on that S3, for me, is the tires. No way 235/35s would survive around here with our bomb crater roads. I think my son's was riding on 225/40s, and he had to use his tire/wheel protection package something like 3 times in 2 years. At least the sporty CUVs still tend to have at least some sidewall!

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  • pensfan83pensfan83 Member Posts: 2,767
    edited January 2021
    @breld that's about 45 minutes from the PIT Airport too.
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  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 3,806
    breld said:

    breld said:

    It’s a sunny day here so I wanted to take the Supra out and do some browsing.

    Took another look at the 2018 Long Beach Blue M2 that I drove a few weeks ago. Figured I could take a look at the color in the daytime this time. I’d prefer white, but I like the blue too. It’d be nice to get into a manual again, but it’s way overpriced (as are pretty much all manual M2s it seems).

    Stopped by an Audi dealership that has had an X4 M40i for months now. Price keeps getting lowered and it’s probably a pretty decent buy at this point. But I didn’t see it on their lot and didn’t want to bother anyone to ask.

    Finally, figured I’d check this out...

    https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/833660111/overview/

    That was striking in person. And actually seems to be priced pretty well, though more than I’m comfortable spending. But did seem like a decent deal compared to the pricing of used M2 Comps.

    And all that driving around made me appreciate the Supra and the price I paid for it. Which was part of the point of getting out.

    Still more than I want to spend, but this CPO M2 Comp seems to be a decent deal.

    That M3 does have the Competition Package- but I'd sure want to get a look at the service history and get a PPI while I'm at it. M cars get a service at 1,200 miles; and I'd want to verify that this car received it. It's an LCI(facelift) model, so it's a bit nicer to drive than the earlier cars.
    I figured and hoped you’d chime in. What year was the LCI for the M3 and what changed?

    For my purposes and the way I drive, a 2016-2018 M2 would be just fine. For that matter, a nice M240i would as well. Basically, if I’d like something like my Supra but with a manual, a 2-series is an obvious choice. I do like the aesthetic improvements on the Comp - seats and new grill and mirror caps.

    A lot of the Comp’s appeal is value driven actually - this local Ford dealer is asking $48k for a 24k mile 2018 M2. That may be a little high, but it’s not all that much more than what similar ones are listed at on Carvana, Carmax and Vroom...and those listings don’t seem to last long (not that I stalk those listings :) ). So...$4-5k more for a 2019 or 2020 Comp seems to be well worth it. I suspect they will hold their value better.

    I’m also thinking I’ll end up in another Miata RF at some point. For my driving habits, nothing gives the same thrill of revving up to the 7,500 redline and working that slick Mazda shifter...and finding yourself at a very legal 50 mph. :p
    https://www.bmwblog.com/2017/01/25/bmw-f80-m3-gets-second-facelift-march-2017/
  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,931

    This is what I offered on yesterday:
    https://www.audiseattle.com/new/Audi/2020-Audi-S3-437f0c670a0e0ae72d5a47119c3c0a80.htm

    I offered $2k DAS (first month, registration, taxes and fees) plus MSD and $440/month including tax and Audi care.

    They bottomed out at $507/month.

    It’s a strong deal for Seattle (11% effective discount before incentives) but I just don’t see the value at that price.

    Boy, that’s a pretty S3. I haven’t paid too much attention to them since my wife had hers (whatever the first year was that they were available here - 2015?). I like the facelift and that color is gorgeous.

    So they got to less than 1% of MSRP - doesn’t seem too bad? How much is the difference in cap cost between the $440 you targeted and their $507?

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,841
    edited January 2021
    Net of $2200. They were $1000 apart on sale price and marked up the MF.

    I offered to meet them in the middle but they didn’t bite.
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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,351
    breld said:

    breld said:

    It’s a sunny day here so I wanted to take the Supra out and do some browsing.

    Took another look at the 2018 Long Beach Blue M2 that I drove a few weeks ago. Figured I could take a look at the color in the daytime this time. I’d prefer white, but I like the blue too. It’d be nice to get into a manual again, but it’s way overpriced (as are pretty much all manual M2s it seems).

    Stopped by an Audi dealership that has had an X4 M40i for months now. Price keeps getting lowered and it’s probably a pretty decent buy at this point. But I didn’t see it on their lot and didn’t want to bother anyone to ask.

    Finally, figured I’d check this out...

    https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/833660111/overview/

    That was striking in person. And actually seems to be priced pretty well, though more than I’m comfortable spending. But did seem like a decent deal compared to the pricing of used M2 Comps.

    And all that driving around made me appreciate the Supra and the price I paid for it. Which was part of the point of getting out.

    Still more than I want to spend, but this CPO M2 Comp seems to be a decent deal.

    That M3 does have the Competition Package- but I'd sure want to get a look at the service history and get a PPI while I'm at it. M cars get a service at 1,200 miles; and I'd want to verify that this car received it. It's an LCI(facelift) model, so it's a bit nicer to drive than the earlier cars.
    I figured and hoped you’d chime in. What year was the LCI for the M3 and what changed?

    For my purposes and the way I drive, a 2016-2018 M2 would be just fine. For that matter, a nice M240i would as well. Basically, if I’d like something like my Supra but with a manual, a 2-series is an obvious choice. I do like the aesthetic improvements on the Comp - seats and new grill and mirror caps.

    A lot of the Comp’s appeal is value driven actually - this local Ford dealer is asking $48k for a 24k mile 2018 M2. That may be a little high, but it’s not all that much more than what similar ones are listed at on Carvana, Carmax and Vroom...and those listings don’t seem to last long (not that I stalk those listings :) ). So...$4-5k more for a 2019 or 2020 Comp seems to be well worth it. I suspect they will hold their value better.

    I’m also thinking I’ll end up in another Miata RF at some point. For my driving habits, nothing gives the same thrill of revving up to the 7,500 redline and working that slick Mazda shifter...and finding yourself at a very legal 50 mph. :p
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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 262,918
    breld said:

    This is what I offered on yesterday:
    https://www.audiseattle.com/new/Audi/2020-Audi-S3-437f0c670a0e0ae72d5a47119c3c0a80.htm

    I offered $2k DAS (first month, registration, taxes and fees) plus MSD and $440/month including tax and Audi care.

    They bottomed out at $507/month.

    It’s a strong deal for Seattle (11% effective discount before incentives) but I just don’t see the value at that price.

    Boy, that’s a pretty S3. I haven’t paid too much attention to them since my wife had hers (whatever the first year was that they were available here - 2015?). I like the facelift and that color is gorgeous.

    So they got to less than 1% of MSRP - doesn’t seem too bad? How much is the difference in cap cost between the $440 you targeted and their $507?
    $67/mo * 36 months = $2400, give or take.

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  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 3,806
  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,931
    edited January 2021
    Michaell said:

    I think, for 2021, we need to have two categories....

    One for the total number of punches for the whole group

    And a second guess specifically for the @breld punches


    There’s no way I match my number for 2020 or even come close. I know...famous last words. But I cringe a bit at the number of moves we made this year - I blame the pandemic and having too much time on my hands. :)

    It’s extremely likely I swap out the fun car. So that’s one almost guaranteed. On the SUV, I think the only thing that would get me to make a move is the availability of a nice electric. Like...if the Mach E actually starts being available at reasonable prices. I do have a refundable deposit on the Rivian, but I’m starting to think that may be larger than we want...having the X3 will give us a good idea on how a compact SUV works for our needs (I suspect it will be more than fine). And for that matter, the Rivian probably wouldn’t be available to me until 2022 anyway.

    I think there’s a reasonable chance my wife sticks with her JCW for the entire year.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,430
    I think I would be happier overall with a Miata than an M2. Assuming I fit in the current generation.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 266,517
    I’ve only driven the M2 on an autocross course. But, I liked it. Kind of a throwback feel with a regular handbrake. Interior and size reminded me of my ZHP.

    The one I drove was a DCT, but I’d get a stick. At this point, I’d rather have a Cayman, though.

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,351
    edited January 2021
    If the Miata had a fixed roof and about 50 more hp I would give it a hard look. I already have a momentum car, and the only convertible I want is the Wrangler.

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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,931
    The Miata RF was actually one of my longer owned vehicles of late. That was a nice buy - a 2017 Club with the Brembo/BBS package with super low miles for $25k. I’d definitely go for a 2019 or 2020 at this point with the increased hp and higher redline...plus a telescoping steering wheel!

    At around $30k or less, it strikes a lot of notes for me for that fun car.

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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,696
    edited January 2021
    Well, happy new year, all!

    I'm sure I'll be low, but I'm going with 35/7 this year (2020 total was 46, unless there were any after @breld's X3 that corvette has yet to enter). And, @breld had a relatively light 8 punches this year, so maybe we're all in for a shock in 2021 if his total this year was inflated due to extra coronavirus time! :D
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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,841
    I’ll say 32 and 5 for 2021.
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,430
    40/4

    being optimistic.

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  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 3,806
    edited January 2021
    Do I get a special badge if my purchases are half of @breld??😂
  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,351
    30 and 7

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  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,593

    pensfan83 said:

    breld said:

    It’s a sunny day here so I wanted to take the Supra out and do some browsing.

    Took another look at the 2018 Long Beach Blue M2 that I drove a few weeks ago. Figured I could take a look at the color in the daytime this time. I’d prefer white, but I like the blue too. It’d be nice to get into a manual again, but it’s way overpriced (as are pretty much all manual M2s it seems).

    Stopped by an Audi dealership that has had an X4 M40i for months now. Price keeps getting lowered and it’s probably a pretty decent buy at this point. But I didn’t see it on their lot and didn’t want to bother anyone to ask.

    Finally, figured I’d check this out...

    https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/833660111/overview/

    That was striking in person. And actually seems to be priced pretty well, though more than I’m comfortable spending. But did seem like a decent deal compared to the pricing of used M2 Comps.

    And all that driving around made me appreciate the Supra and the price I paid for it. Which was part of the point of getting out.

    Still more than I want to spend, but this CPO M2 Comp seems to be a decent deal.

    That M3 does have the Competition Package- but I'd sure want to get a look at the service history and get a PPI while I'm at it. M cars get a service at 1,200 miles; and I'd want to verify that this car received it. It's an LCI(facelift) model, so it's a bit nicer to drive than the earlier cars.
    There's one near Youngstown with roughly a third of the miles for the same price.

    https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/823143622/overview/?aff=share_text
    I saw that one- the problem is that it’s white; I want either Hockenheim Silver or Sunset Orange.
    I’m old, crotchety, and I don’t want to settle when it comes to my next car.

    You aren’t old. I can’t speak to the rest.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,237
    fintail said:

    The latter number might be half of the former B)

    Likely no punches for me in 2021, unless something unforeseen comes my way. I'll technically be eligible for a pull forward by the end of the year, but I can't imagine I'll be taking that route unless there's a big change of circumstances/insane offer.


    Michaell said:

    I think, for 2021, we need to have two categories....

    One for the total number of punches for the whole group

    And a second guess specifically for the @breld punches

    If the van blows up I might purchase a small pick up and if the 21 year old convertible bites the dust I could be in the market for another but otherwise I have no more room.

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  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,841
    I’m not old but I am crotchety.
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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,005
    32 and 3

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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,314
    Happy 2021, folks! Here is the list I have for 2020. Please let me know if I've missed anything!

    2020 punch list (total 46):
    01/02/20 graphicguy 2019 Kia Stinger GT2 3.3
    01/10/20 qbrozen 20xx Hyundai Ioniq plug-in hybrid 2/24 lease
    01/27/20 breld 2019 Mercedes GLC Coupe 4k
    01/27/20 breld 2014 BMW 228i RWD M-Sport 45k
    02/12/20 steine13 2012 Ford Fusion SEL V6 93k
    02/14/20 pensfan83 2006 BMW 330Ci ZSP 126k
    02/18/20 JustinS 2007 Acura TL Type-S 123k
    02/17/20 kyfdx 2018 VW GTI SE 14k
    02/19/20 28firefighter 2004 BMW 330Ci ZHP 125k
    02/21/20 akangl 2019 Jeep Compass Trailhawk xxk (used?)
    02/25/20 rayainsw 2020 BMW M340i lease
    02/28/20 corvette 2020 Toyota Tundra Crewmax SR5 TRD Sport (2/24k lease)
    03/14/20 stickguy 2020 Acura RDX Tech SH-AWD
    03/14/20 michaell’s sister and nephew 1998 Toyota 4Runner SR5 RWD 160k
    03/15/20 dad23 2007 Toyota 4Runner SR5 4WD 158k
    04/27/20 abacomike 2020 Mercedes E450 4MATIC
    05/19/20 graphicguy’s sister 2017 Kia Soul+ 11k
    05/20/20 venture 2020 Subaru Legacy Touring XT
    05/20/20 tifighter 2011 BMW Z4 3.0 24k
    06/05/20 breld 2020 Toyota GR Supra 3.0 Premium
    06/06/20 28firefighter’s parents 2017 Audi SQ5 15k
    06/07/20 oldfarmer50 2010 Ford Fusion SEL 29k
    06/29/20 nyccarguy’s MIL 2020 Ford Edge (lease)
    07/09/20 JustinS 2020 Lexus ES350
    08/07/20 28firefighter’s dad 2007 BMW 530xi Touring 6MT SP 100k
    08/07/20 pensfan83 2020 Acura RDX A-Spec (lease?)
    08/10/20 akangl daughter 2019 Ford Escape xxk
    08/10/20 akangl husband 2018 Ram 2500 xxk
    08/15/20 breld 2020 Mini Cooper S (3/36k lease)
    08/19/20 akangl 2020 Ford Explorer ST (lease)
    08/29/20 au1994 2008 Toyota Land Cruiser 135k
    09/10/20 mjfloyd1 2020 Honda CR-V Touring
    09/13/20 breld 2019 Porsche Cayenne
    10/10/20 sda 2018 VW Passat SE (CPO 19k)
    11/11/20 steine13’s postdoc 2012 Chevrolet Cruze LS 100k
    11/14/20 tjc78 2020 Volvo XC90 T6 Momentum (lease)
    11/17/20 isellhondas 2020 Honda CR-V EX
    11/17/20 kyfdx 2012 Subaru Forester 2.5X MT 125k
    11/20/20 breld 2020 Mini Cooper S JCW 2k (Carplay)
    11/21/20 qbrozen 2013 Fiat 500C Lounge 19k
    11/24/20 andres3 2015 Audi S4 Prestige 32k
    12/05/20 breld 2020 Nissan Leaf SV (2/10 lease)
    12/11/20 28firefighter’s BIL/SIL 2018 BMW X5 35d CPO
    12/13/20 xwesx 2018 Subaru Crosstrek Premium 37k
    12/19/20 mjfloyd1 2020 BMW X3 m40i 7.2k
    12/24/20 breld 2018 BMW X3 m40i 18k

    @roadburner was closest with a guess of 47. @ab348 guessed 44.
  • mjfloyd1mjfloyd1 Member Posts: 3,806
    Wow. 8 punches for @breld
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,313
    Shoot! Missed it by*that* much.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,430
    yeah, I wasn't close.

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