Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

stickguy

Just got an email from Acura. Integra release is 11/11. Technically the prototype, but at this point, has to mean basically final production version.

stickguy

Saw some thinking interesting pop up on marketplace, in my town. 2007 Pontiac Solstice. Red, 5 speed. Picture looked clean. And only $4,500.

Then read the detail. 220,000 miles. On about the least practical car ever, with zero cargo capacity. Did have a lot of new parts, just a pesky CEL on. Seller did say it was a P0420, so likely needs a cat.

No longer feeling the love on this one.

oldfarmer50

Michaell said:

Nissan is now offering an 18 month lease on the 2022 Frontier.

Pro 4X RV is 94% for 10k

I guess that’s not one you’ll be buying at the end of the lease. Maybe that’s the point so there’s a vehicle to put on the used lot at the end.

oldfarmer50

stickguy said:

Saw some thinking interesting pop up on marketplace, in my town. 2007 Pontiac Solstice. Red, 5 speed. Picture looked clean. And only $4,500.

Then read the detail. 220,000 miles. On about the least practical car ever, with zero cargo capacity. Did have a lot of new parts, just a pesky CEL on. Seller did say it was a P0420, so likely needs a cat.

No longer feeling the love on this one.

On an orphan car that miled up I’d be worried about getting parts when the inevitable break downs occur. I bought a low production Lincoln that was 18 years old and found no one carried some of the parts I needed. Used parts were never satisfactory.

tifighter

It's $4500 during the carpocalypse. What were you expecting, a sandwich and a massage?

Michaell

tifighter said:

It's $4500 during the carpocalypse. What were you expecting, a sandwich and a massage?

LOL

28firefighter

tifighter said:

It's $4500 during the carpocalypse. What were you expecting, a sandwich and a massage?

Don't hold back, tell us what you really think.

roadburner

@stickguy said:
Do the event, drive through the night!

Now there’s a rumor that the entire HHI Concours is in jeopardy since 2” of rain are expected. The event is held at a golf course and if the ground is too saturated cars won’t be allowed on it.

xwesx

roadburner said:

Now there’s a rumor that the entire HHI Concours is in jeopardy since 2” of rain are expected. The event is held at a golf course and if the ground is too saturated cars won’t be allowed on it.

You had some fun. Might just be time to call it a day and head home.

ab348

xwesx said:

roadburner said:

Now there’s a rumor that the entire HHI Concours is in jeopardy since 2” of rain are expected. The event is held at a golf course and if the ground is too saturated cars won’t be allowed on it.

You had some fun. Might just be time to call it a day and head home.

“A man has got to know his limitations.”

stickguy

Ford teased me this week. Last I heard on Maverick #1, about 2 weeks ago they bumped me back to production the week of 11/8, and unlike the prior times where they pushed it at least a week early, I heard nothing. Until a few minutes ago. Just got an email that I was rescheduled to week off 11/22. So even if no more delays, unlikely it arrives before Christmas (or maybe the week just before, which coincidentally is the same week I bought my last car). Though at the pace they are going, it could easily get delayed again.

maverick #2 might arrive at the same time (not really, that one is probably May timeframe). But the Civic Si may beat it. Heck, the Integra might give it a run for it's money.

Sandman6472

Yep, that $3995 charge is a "Market Adjustment Fee" which I flat out refuse to pay on any vehicle! I'm lucky in that I can wait out this chip shortage, I only wanted to treat myself to something new since I don't smoke or drink and have been working going on 8 years come January 13th. I retired back in 2012 officially but was home starting in October of 2010, thinking I'd never be employed again. I remember my wife saying I should do something & found a part time gig the next day in the rental car business. And here I am, still working it which I still enjoy.

oldfarmer50

Sandman6472 said:

Yep, that $3995 charge is a "Market Adjustment Fee" which I flat out refuse to pay on any vehicle! I'm lucky in that I can wait out this chip shortage, I only wanted to treat myself to something new since I don't smoke or drink and have been working going on 8 years come January 13th. I retired back in 2012 officially but was home starting in October of 2010, thinking I'd never be employed again. I remember my wife saying I should do something & found a part time gig the next day in the rental car business. And here I am, still working it which I still enjoy.

Boy, talk about lack of transparency. $1k doc + $4k market adjustment? You might as well tear the Mulroney sticker off and just put: Cost=whatever we feel like.

Up here we’ve got drivers who’ve been “retired” 20 years still working into their 80s. The rental car biz is like the fountain of youth.

sda

Browsing online our local dealers have minimal new volume like everywhere else. The local Cadillac dealer that normally has an extensive inventory has 5 new vehicles. Subaru about the same. The only dealer showing fair inventory is the local VW store where I’ve done business, showing 61 units. No Jettas, GTIs. Mainly Atlas and Taos. They have 6 Passats that haven’t moved forever. I have no idea what type of markup they have on them but I suspect it’s not pretty.

stickguy

@oldfarmer50 said:
Boy, talk about lack of transparency. $1k doc + $4k market adjustment? You might as well tear the Mulroney sticker off and just put: Cost=whatever we feel like.

Up here we’ve got drivers who’ve been “retired” 20 years still working into their 80s. The rental car biz is like the fountain of youth.

Free market economy! Just supply and demand.

Hey, nobody complained when they paid less than sticker.

Michaell

stickguy said:

Hey, nobody complained when they paid less than sticker.

Other than the dealers, that is.

jmonroe1

stickguy said:

Ford teased me this week. Last I heard on Maverick #1, about 2 weeks ago they bumped me back to production the week of 11/8, and unlike the prior times where they pushed it at least a week early, I heard nothing. Until a few minutes ago. Just got an email that I was rescheduled to week off 11/22. So even if no more delays, unlikely it arrives before Christmas (or maybe the week just before, which coincidentally is the same week I bought my last car). Though at the pace they are going, it could easily get delayed again.

maverick #2 might arrive at the same time (not really, that one is probably May timeframe). But the Civic Si may beat it. Heck, the Integra might give it a run for it's money.

The way things are going for you, I might be getting a punch before you and I’m not even in the market right now.

jmonroe

rny421

Punch to report!! Any guesses? I'll give you a hint that it's a manual convertible.

roadburner

@xwesx said:
You had some fun. Might just be time to call it a day and head home.

We are headed home tomorrow morning; there’s a CCA dinner tonight which we already paid for. We are going to try and get a refund for Legends but I don’t hold out much hope.

roadburner

BMW did bring an i4, but I still can’t get past the grille:

ab348

Looks like a genetically-modified beaver.

stickguy

rny421 said:

Punch to report!! Any guesses? I'll give you a hint that it's a manual convertible.

I will guess one of the TTs.

jmonroe1

oldfarmer50 said:

Sandman6472 said:

Yep, that $3995 charge is a "Market Adjustment Fee" which I flat out refuse to pay on any vehicle! I'm lucky in that I can wait out this chip shortage, I only wanted to treat myself to something new since I don't smoke or drink and have been working going on 8 years come January 13th. I retired back in 2012 officially but was home starting in October of 2010, thinking I'd never be employed again. I remember my wife saying I should do something & found a part time gig the next day in the rental car business. And here I am, still working it which I still enjoy.

Boy, talk about lack of transparency. $1k doc + $4k market adjustment? You might as well tear the Mulroney sticker off and just put: Cost=whatever we feel like.

Up here we’ve got drivers who’ve been “retired” 20 years still working into their 80s. The rental car biz is like the fountain of youth.

I wouldn’t call that “lack of transparency”. That looks like “full transparency” to me. However, I fully agree about the Mulroney sticker.

Now, as for being in your ‘80s and working for minimum wages, those guys have to REALLY love that work. There is no way in hell I’d be doing that when I’m that age.

jmonroe

jmonroe1

roadburner said:

BMW did bring an i4, but I still can’t get past the grille:

I totally agree with you. That falls into the category of, “what were they thinking”?

jmonroe

au1994

jmonroe1 said:

roadburner said:

BMW did bring an i4, but I still can’t get past the grille:

I totally agree with you. That falls into the category of, “what were they thinking”?

jmonroe

Ruined a perfectly good looking car.

qbrozen

@rny421 said:
Punch to report!! Any guesses? I'll give you a hint that it's a manual convertible.

I really don’t know you, so it is wide open. Can you at least hint if new or used, and if used, how old?

rny421

Used, 2016, soft top, German.

stickguy

went newer than the 3 series I looked at for you. I will stick with a TT.

2nd choice is a 2 series BMW convert.

oldfarmer50

“ Now, as for being in your ‘80s and working for minimum wages, those guys have to REALLY love that work. There is no way in hell I’d be doing that when I’m that age. ”

Most of my coworkers admit that they would do the job for free. Where else can a car guy try out dozens of different cars with pretty much zero supervision or interference?

roadburner

Before the deluge(Thursday):

jmonroe1

roadburner said:

Before the deluge(Thursday):

That guy ruined a perfectly good looking car.

jmonroe

corvette

Here is the Prius in Bonaventure Cemetery in Savannah (popularized by the book Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil):

qbrozen

@stickguy said:
went newer than the 3 series I looked at for you. I will stick with a TT.

2nd choice is a 2 series BMW convert.

No love for the z4?

qbrozen

Now I gotta make a roadside repair on the van. Either he didn’t install a clamp right or it somehow came off.

stickguy

if this was my wife's car, I would already have been told that I need to get her a new one ASAP and she is not driving the old one again.

mjfloyd1

I had not seen one of the Nissan Murano cross cabriolets for years and someone posted a pic. I pulled in to a restaurant on the square in Greencastle IN and parked right next to one. OH-IO plates

tjc78

@qbrozen said:
Now I gotta make a roadside repair on the van. Either he didn’t install a clamp right or it somehow came off.

Ugh, what a trip!!

tjc78

@stickguy said:
if this was my wife's car, I would already have been told that I need to get her a new one ASAP and she is not driving the old one again.

Yep, same here

corvette

Both Hoovie and the CDJR salesman pronounce the Wrangler model as "4 x e" and not "4 by e," at around the 9 minute mark of this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyfanU76mVg

28firefighter

@tjc78 said:

@stickguy said:
if this was my wife's car, I would already have been told that I need to get her a new one ASAP and she is not driving the old one again.

Yep, same here

+3

stickguy

I got the wife the new RDX when the old one was just about to turn 8 years with us. Still very reliable, so I can look at the upgrade as "preventive maintenance" in a way. But if we had not gotten the new one and that old one stranded her, we would have been out shopping.

Michaell

28firefighter said:

@tjc78 said:

@stickguy said:

if this was my wife's car, I would already have been told that I need to get her a new one ASAP and she is not driving the old one again.

Yep, same here

+3

+4

mjfloyd1

@corvette said:
Both Hoovie and the CDJR salesman pronounce the Wrangler model as "4 x e" and not "4 by e," at around the 9 minute mark of this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyfanU76mVg

Why is a 4x4 not a 16?

jmonroe1

corvette said:

Here is the Prius in Bonaventure Cemetery in Savannah (popularized by the book Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil):

So, you’re looking at a plot for it already.

jmonroe

jmonroe1

stickguy said:

I got the wife the new RDX when the old one was just about to turn 8 years with us. Still very reliable, so I can look at the upgrade as "preventive maintenance" in a way. But if we had not gotten the new one and that old one stranded her, we would have been out shopping.

The bright side of this is now you know how to get her to walk the lots with you.

jmonroe

jmonroe1

Michaell said:

28firefighter said:

@tjc78 said:

@stickguy said:

if this was my wife's car, I would already have been told that I need to get her a new one ASAP and she is not driving the old one again.

Yep, same here

+3

+4


You guys have to learn how to put your foot down.

jmonroe

tifighter

qbrozen said:

@stickguy said:

went newer than the 3 series I looked at for you. I will stick with a TT.

2nd choice is a 2 series BMW convert.

No love for the z4?

Z4 no tiene un softtopo. Solamente un topo rigido retracto.

As for the car, it has to be a 2 series.

explorerx4

I know better than to put my wife in that situation(putting her in a hooptie for a long trip).

Michaell

jmonroe1 said:

Michaell said:

28firefighter said:

@tjc78 said:

@stickguy said:

if this was my wife's car, I would already have been told that I need to get her a new one ASAP and she is not driving the old one again.

Yep, same here

+3

+4


You guys have to learn how to put your foot down.

jmonroe

Of course, my wife doesn't really drive anymore - either she's chauferred by her daughter, or by me. So, not likely that she'd be in a position to be stranded on the side of the road.

corvette

explorerx4 said:

I know better than to put my wife in that situation(putting her in a hooptie for a long trip).

The T&C isn't old enough to be a hooptie, IMO, plus it has a lifetime warranty. I could see it becoming a beater for @qbrozen if the missus doesn't want it anymore.