I have been all over the place. had OEMs shot at 30k, and replacements on the same car with deep tread left with 40K on them. other new cars that easily went 50k+. and some of the worst were OEM Michelins.
If the Tacoma is like my Tundra and Prius, the light just comes on every 5,000 miles, regardless of time or operating conditions. I think Honda and Acura’s system has a more sophisticated algorithm, similar to BMW, GM, and Ford.
Chronic Tire Buyer here. I use age as my guide more than miles. It's not all tread depth. Heat cycles, UV, driving style etc. factor in for me. But again, I am a CTB member.
Yes, Honda and Acura have a system based on speed, miles driven, etc., etc. My light just came on for my Acura to get an oil change, and I looked it up and my last oil change was about 9000 miles back. Just made an appointment to get it changed in a few days. Price with my coupon for full synthetic, filter, etc. will be $55.
And actually there are some safety margins with the Maintenance Minder, because it bases its calculations on a synthetic oil blend, not full synthetic. Plus Honda and Acura strangely say to change the oil filter only every other time, but every place I've ever been to changes the filter every time.
After that I need to make an appointment with Costco for my free tire rotation.
Car inventories are climbing back up in my area. My local Acura dealer had 0 vehicles in stock when I checked a few months ago, and now they have 22. My local Honda dealer has about a hundred vehicles in stock or coming soon.
And maybe more surprising is Tesla, which has gone from having a wait of six months or so after you put your order in, to saying they'll deliver a vehicle in weeks—plus throw in a rebate and free charging for 10,000 miles. Wow, that's a change. Someone said to me recently that they'd never own a Tesla, even though they want an EV for their next car, simply because they find the CEO to be too controversial.
Car inventories are climbing back up in my area. My local Acura dealer had 0 vehicles in stock when I checked a few months ago, and now they have 22. My local Honda dealer has about a hundred vehicles in stock or coming soon.
And maybe more surprising is Tesla, which has gone from having a wait of six months or so after you put your order in, to saying they'll deliver a vehicle in weeks—plus throw in a rebate and free charging for 10,000 miles. Wow, that's a change. Someone said to me recently that they'd never own a Tesla, even though they want an EV for their next car, simply because they find the CEO to be too controversial.
———————————————— I don’t think I could trust a car that doesn’t have a recommended oil change interval shown in its manual. Too much room for interpretation to suit me.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis Ultimate just like jmonroe's. '18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
I now get free rotations with my Tires Plus credit card. Running Goodyear Eagle GT's since September of 2019 with two already swapped out with the road hazard policy. There's no Goodyear owned store near me and the local Tires Choice, though having the Goodyear logo up top, refuse to do warranty work or even do the free rotations for some odd reason. And where I bought them is a good 24 miles from the house so glad that Tires Plus will now do it for free for me. Usually like to do it every 6 months or so as I'm only changing the oil & filter once a year as my mileage doesn't warrant me doing it sooner. Use synthetic and would just be a waste to do it more often. Personally, I like my tires to have good tread so tend to swap them out maybe a bit too soon. But the thought of having a flat or blowout on the road is not something I want. And since we get rain frequently down here, like good tread between me & the road. Am finding these Goodyear's wearing very evenly to be honest and it has improved the ride/handling of the Golf a bit. And with the rebates they were offering at the time, was the right time to purchase new sneakers. Have 17" rims & tires right now but got a feeling my next vehicle will be going up to 18" ones. Looked online last night, and seems there's a lot more vehicles in-transit to the brands I'm scoping out, a good thing as I'm not quite ready to pull that trigger yet. Shooting for a 2024 model right now.
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2025 VW GTI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
Now that I'm at a keyboard, I can elaborate further on the maintenance minders, going from memory here:
BMW's intervals used to be based on fuel consumption, time, or a hard mileage cap, whichever came first.
GM's system was based on the number of engine revolutions plus a penalty for cold starts, or a hard mileage cap. Newer versions have incorporated a one year time limit, and I think the hard mileage cap got reduced to 7,500 miles on at least some models.
Honda and Acura's algorithm was similar to GM's, although I'm not sure they incorporated a time limit.
Chrysler's system used to observe driving behavior during the first few hundred miles after an oil change, and then pre-select either a 4,000 mile or 8,000 mile interval based on that.
Ford's system, for quite some time, is condition based (there isn't much information on which specific conditions are monitored), but has had a hard cap of 10,000 miles or 12 months since the last change. I remember the system in my old Mustang clicking off 2% per week like clockwork, regardless of how little I drove it. I also think there is some sort of heuristic to prevent it from dropping suddenly if you have driven fewer miles than expected since the last oil change and drive a lot in a shorter interval. I'm not sure whether mine was reset when the Maverick was delivered, but it now shows 86% oil life remaining with 1,653 miles on the clock. I think it was 97% or so after driving it the ~700 miles home.
Toyota's system on the Tundra I had and the Prius gives you a brief warning at 4,500 miles and a constant reminder after 5,000 miles. On the Prius, that means it's time for an oil change, but on the Tundra, only a tire rotation was needed at 5,000 miles, and the oil was good for 10,000.
Why are you trying to use physics to support these extended oil change intervals.
jmonroe
When it comes to extended intervals, it is best to run used oil analyses (UOA) on the oil to establish a "safe" threshold under the conditions you run. For most oils running in sound engines, the acid buffering capacity is the most important oil property to monitor.
Even under local driving conditions, if the vehicle is running for long periods, I can see it doing okay with good oil and a 20,000 mile interval. However, if the owner is just guessing (basing the interval on the "claims" of the manufacturer), then the owner may be unknowingly doing a little damage to the engine through increased wear metals and/or acid corrosion.
The only way to know for sure is UOA.
I can say that I've confidently run intervals as high as 16,000 miles between changes. Just this past summer, I did the oil change on our Crosstrek during AMW. It then did the round trip to Ohio, and I didn't change the oil again until the second week of October (after we arrived home). We put about 13,500 on it during that interval, if I recall correctly.
2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
looks like Ford still does the time counter. I just looked at my Fordpass app, and it shows 53% at 2,600 miles since last oil change, which I think was done on 7/3. So sounds about right for counting down to 12 months max (obviously well under miles).
My Acuras (the old ones for sure and I think the 2020) only works on condition algorithm, but won't trigger based on time even though you are supposed to do by 12 months regardless of miles. I know with the 2013 RDX, I used to usually hit 12 months before it got down to calling for a change (driving less than 5k/year will do that!). So you needed to remember.
the bigger hassle was, until the wrench came on at 15%, it wouldn't tell you what was required so needed to guess. The 2020, I don't think I have run that out to a full year yet to know about the 12 months, but it does show already what the next service required is going to be.
I’ve used tread depth as a reason to trade. But who hasn’t 😀
My classic move has been to have new tires and the car serviced then trade it. 🙄Thankfully I haven’t done that recently and hopefully won’t again. Actually that’s what prompted me to trade the Accord as it was due for an extensive 100k service. I knew if I spent the money on that I would need to commit keeping it for another year or so and having the car an eternity for me, 7 years, I had the itch.
2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech
I don’t know if there are other factors that influence the maintenance minder in the Audi and VW. It doesn’t show a percentage but will tell you Service needed in ‘x’ days, xxxx miles. It starts reminding you with a message service is needed within 30 days of the designated service interval.
2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech
Car inventories are climbing back up in my area. My local Acura dealer had 0 vehicles in stock when I checked a few months ago, and now they have 22. My local Honda dealer has about a hundred vehicles in stock or coming soon.
And maybe more surprising is Tesla, which has gone from having a wait of six months or so after you put your order in, to saying they'll deliver a vehicle in weeks—plus throw in a rebate and free charging for 10,000 miles. Wow, that's a change. Someone said to me recently that they'd never own a Tesla, even though they want an EV for their next car, simply because they find the CEO to be too controversial.
I wonder if we are reaching market saturation for that particular aesthetic (not EVs in general) or if people are tiring of Elon's deplorable shtick and don't want to be associated with it.
I don’t know if there are other factors that influence the maintenance minder in the Audi and VW. It doesn’t show a percentage but will tell you Service needed in ‘x’ days, xxxx miles. It starts reminding you with a message service is needed within 30 days of the designated service interval.
I think Audi and VW are based on time/mileage only and not driving conditions.
I've done the same thing as your other post, put an expensive set of new Michelins on a car and then promptly traded it in.
one of the reasons we traded the 2013 RDX for the 2020 was the old one was coming due within the year for some pricey stuff. T Belt and all the ancillary stuff. And probably tires in that range. combine that with the higher than expected buy offer from Carmax and the numbers seemed too good to pass up.
though we were looking in the first place because the wife had changed jobs and had a nastier commute with some scary highway portions, and wanted the upgrade on the safety features that my cars had (BLIS, etc. and Navi/car play).
put that all together, combine to a killer offer through cars.com (or one of those buying services), and the numbers made too much sense not to!
of course, with my sense of impeccable timing, we bought in on Friday May 12(?) 2020. and the world shut down the following Monday, and my wife became a permanent WFH person. so the new car went to her office maybe 10 times total since then.
If the Tacoma is like my Tundra and Prius, the light just comes on every 5,000 miles, regardless of time or operating conditions. I think Honda and Acura’s system has a more sophisticated algorithm, similar to BMW, GM, and Ford.
My Ford’s oil change light comes on every year even if I’ve only driven 1000 miles. I’m pretty OCD on oil changes but I’m not changing synthetic oil at 1000 mile intervals.
Strangely the oil monitor on my old Chevy cargo van seems more sophisticated. The first time it lit up was after 5000 miles and the second time was at 4000 miles. It must use something other than mileage or time.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
I wonder if we are reaching market saturation for that particular aesthetic (not EVs in general) or if people are tiring of Elon's deplorable shtick and don't want to be associated with it.
You can color me in that second group. Generally speaking, I will not do business with or help support someone whom I find deplorable. That includes Steve Jobs and Apple, and more recently, Elon Musk and Tesla. Which is a shame, because I am a strong supporter of space exploration and used to really like Space-X.
I know that Chevron (and other majors) have done extensive internal testing on engine oil life. Most of that has not been publicized, after all they WANT you to change your oil. But their internal testing indicates that engine oil lasts a lot longer than most believe.
I myself change the oil in my cars more frequently than I have to, just because it gives me a certain degree of confidence. I also replace spark plugs (and plug wires where they exist) more frequently, once again as it makes me feel more confident. Radiator hoses, fan belts, other items as well.
The Model 3 and Y may become eligible for the federal tax incentive at the beginning of the year. Whereas Tesla used to allow you to push off a delivery a time or two, they have become more stringent with that policy, and apparently many buyers have been outright canceling their orders, with the hope of getting the $7,500 tax credit starting in January.
So, Tesla figured they’d provide half the credit upfront to entice buyers to take delivery now.
@oldfarmer50 said:
I’m guessing the weight. I seem to remember my 1980 Dodge Omni which was very light being easy on tires and brakes.
The wife got over 60k miles on her Town & Country’s OEM tires. I was on pace to need new ones on my Honda Fit at about 10k. It is all about the driver, IMHO.
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I’ve used tread depth as a reason to trade. But who hasn’t 😀
I've used "good tires" as an excuse to car shop. When I was looking to dump my 2015 Legacy, I had just put a new set of winter tires on it. I said to myself, "If I can find a car that has the same size tires as the Legacy, I will trade it in so I can get a few more seasons out of the new winter tires."
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
The Model 3 and Y may become eligible for the federal tax incentive at the beginning of the year. Whereas Tesla used to allow you to push off a delivery a time or two, they have become more stringent with that policy, and apparently many buyers have been outright canceling their orders, with the hope of getting the $7,500 tax credit starting in January.
So, Tesla figured they’d provide half the credit upfront to entice buyers to take delivery now.
Interesting.
But the bottom line seems to be that the EV price war has already just begun, sooner than I thought it would.
Tesla Austin is now making 3000 EVs a week, or 12,000 a month.
But by the end of 2023, if things goes well, Tesla Texas should be making 50,000 EVs a month, and by the end of 2024 that one factory might be making about 80,000 EVs a month. Meanwhile Tesla Freemont is already at full capacity and making about 600,000 EVs a year.
The Federal Tax subsidy should mean that every EV produced will be sold fairly quickly, but with the numbers of EVs available exploding from Tesla and everyone else prices will almost certainly fall. There might be some EV deals by 2024, at Tesla and elsewhere.
I only got 27K out of the OEM Bridgestones on my 06 Avalon and if I would have kept the 09 Genesis for the entire term I would have needed tires around 30k in that as well.
I’ve used tread depth as a reason to trade. But who hasn’t 😀
My classic move has been to have new tires and the car serviced then trade it. 🙄Thankfully I haven’t done that recently and hopefully won’t again. Actually that’s what prompted me to trade the Accord as it was due for an extensive 100k service. I knew if I spent the money on that I would need to commit keeping it for another year or so and having the car an eternity for me, 7 years, I had the itch.
I wonder if we are reaching market saturation for that particular aesthetic (not EVs in general) or if people are tiring of Elon's deplorable shtick and don't want to be associated with it.
You can color me in that second group. Generally speaking, I will not do business with or help support someone whom I find deplorable. That includes Steve Jobs and Apple, and more recently, Elon Musk and Tesla. Which is a shame, because I am a strong supporter of space exploration and used to really like Space-X.
No surprise, I am too. I'm not against EVs at all, but I know one brand I will stay away from, for that very reason. Dangerous character, and maybe a decision made easier, as IMO the edgy egg design is getting stale now.
Mine is fine. Turns 1 year old in 11 days. time flies!
on the oil question, a reason I am changing early is because the engine (well, both of them) are DI turbos, and are known to have more issues with condensation in the oil (oil dilution). The oil itself might still have additives but don't want the water in there.
I just received this in my email. Very interesting, it sounds like the good old days are back (almost). $10,000 off MSRP, that is almost exactly the deal I got on my 2018 F150. Except somehow I don't really trust this offer. And what's with "PRE-ORDER", are they still taking orders for 2022 models?
And, lest we forget, $10k off of $54k isn't nearly as enticing as $10k off of $44k.
The Model 3 and Y may become eligible for the federal tax incentive at the beginning of the year. Whereas Tesla used to allow you to push off a delivery a time or two, they have become more stringent with that policy, and apparently many buyers have been outright canceling their orders, with the hope of getting the $7,500 tax credit starting in January.
So, Tesla figured they’d provide half the credit upfront to entice buyers to take delivery now.
Interesting.
But the bottom line seems to be that the EV price war has already just begun, sooner than I thought it would.
Tesla Austin is now making 3000 EVs a week, or 12,000 a month.
But by the end of 2023, if things goes well, Tesla Texas should be making 50,000 EVs a month, and by the end of 2024 that one factory might be making about 80,000 EVs a month. Meanwhile Tesla Freemont is already at full capacity and making about 600,000 EVs a year.
The Federal Tax subsidy should mean that every EV produced will be sold fairly quickly, but with the numbers of EVs available exploding from Tesla and everyone else prices will almost certainly fall. There might be some EV deals by 2024, at Tesla and elsewhere.
The US fleet penetration for EVs is only at something like 3%. There will be plenty of market opportunity for everyone. Well, everyone who has battery production capacity, that is.
Mine's good. I'm still getting used to the different layout for the steering wheel buttons after installing cruise control (the volume and fast forward/rewind are different, and those are ones I use frequently for my podcasts). I've also had a few issues with Bluetooth failing to pair with my phone (or it taking an inordinate amount of time) for wireless audio streaming. I'm hopeful that there will be a software update for that.
Other than that, it's comfortable, powerful, the ride quality is good, and as I've mentioned before, the transmission is perfect in that it always seems to pick the correct gear. I can't really complain, because I can't think of a new vehicle in the same price range that would be better.
I just received this in my email. Very interesting, it sounds like the good old days are back (almost). $10,000 off MSRP, that is almost exactly the deal I got on my 2018 F150. Except somehow I don't really trust this offer. And what's with "PRE-ORDER", are they still taking orders for 2022 models?
And, lest we forget, $10k off of $54k isn't nearly as enticing as $10k off of $44k.
Whenever I read "Lone Star" I can only think of Rick Moranis as Dark Helmet saying it.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Currently the Tesla Model Y by itself has 33% of the EV market. The Model 3 has 27%. And so those two models alone have 60% of the EV market. The Ford Mustang Mach-E is at 5%. The VW ID.4 is currently at 2%.
I just received this in my email. Very interesting, it sounds like the good old days are back (almost). $10,000 off MSRP, that is almost exactly the deal I got on my 2018 F150. Except somehow I don't really trust this offer. And what's with "PRE-ORDER", are they still taking orders for 2022 models?
And, lest we forget, $10k off of $54k isn't nearly as enticing as $10k off of $44k.
$10k off a year old model? Isn’t that about how much it would have deprecated by now but you still have to wait for them to build it? Odd.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Mine's good. I'm still getting used to the different layout for the steering wheel buttons after installing cruise control (the volume and fast forward/rewind are different, and those are ones I use frequently for my podcasts). I've also had a few issues with Bluetooth failing to pair with my phone (or it taking an inordinate amount of time) for wireless audio streaming. I'm hopeful that there will be a software update for that.
Other than that, it's comfortable, powerful, the ride quality is good, and as I've mentioned before, the transmission is perfect in that it always seems to pick the correct gear. I can't really complain, because I can't think of a new vehicle in the same price range that would be better.
What is an inordinately long time? It's between -30 and -45F here the last couple days, and my audio system on the Q7 takes about five minutes to try doing stuff, failing, resetting itself, then loading back up before actually working. Each time I shut the car off.
Oh, and I have no heat in the cabin.
Sorry; I'm just trying to help y'all feel better about your vehicles' little niggles.
2018 Subaru Crosstrek, 2014 Audi Q7 TDI, 2013 Subaru Forester, 2013 Ford F250 Lariat D, 1976 Ford F250, 1969 Chevrolet C20, 1969 Ford Econoline 100
I’ve used tread depth as a reason to trade. But who hasn’t 😀
My classic move has been to have new tires and the car serviced then trade it. 🙄Thankfully I haven’t done that recently and hopefully won’t again. Actually that’s what prompted me to trade the Accord as it was due for an extensive 100k service. I knew if I spent the money on that I would need to commit keeping it for another year or so and having the car an eternity for me, 7 years, I had the itch.
Mine's good. I'm still getting used to the different layout for the steering wheel buttons after installing cruise control (the volume and fast forward/rewind are different, and those are ones I use frequently for my podcasts). I've also had a few issues with Bluetooth failing to pair with my phone (or it taking an inordinate amount of time) for wireless audio streaming. I'm hopeful that there will be a software update for that.
Other than that, it's comfortable, powerful, the ride quality is good, and as I've mentioned before, the transmission is perfect in that it always seems to pick the correct gear. I can't really complain, because I can't think of a new vehicle in the same price range that would be better.
What is an inordinately long time? It's between -30 and -45F here the last couple days, and my audio system on the Q7 takes about five minutes to try doing stuff, failing, resetting itself, then loading back up before actually working. Each time I shut the car off.
Oh, and I have no heat in the cabin.
Sorry; I'm just trying to help y'all feel better about your vehicles' little niggles.
I hope you have a wood stove at least!
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
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2017 BMW X1 Jet Black over Mocha
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I'm guessing that living in the northern part of the country helps.
If the Tacoma is like my Tundra and Prius, the light just comes on every 5,000 miles, regardless of time or operating conditions. I think Honda and Acura’s system has a more sophisticated algorithm, similar to BMW, GM, and Ford.
25 NX 450h+ / 24 Sienna Plat AWD / 23 Civic Type-R / 21 Boxster GTS 4.0
We must be related. That’s about what my average is. Maybe we should be buying Civic’s.
jmonroe
'18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
And actually there are some safety margins with the Maintenance Minder, because it bases its calculations on a synthetic oil blend, not full synthetic. Plus Honda and Acura strangely say to change the oil filter only every other time, but every place I've ever been to changes the filter every time.
After that I need to make an appointment with Costco for my free tire rotation.
That never helped me. I guess I’m a lost cause.
Before anyone has any comments about that…DON’T.
jmonroe
'18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
And maybe more surprising is Tesla, which has gone from having a wait of six months or so after you put your order in, to saying they'll deliver a vehicle in weeks—plus throw in a rebate and free charging for 10,000 miles. Wow, that's a change. Someone said to me recently that they'd never own a Tesla, even though they want an EV for their next car, simply because they find the CEO to be too controversial.
I don’t think I could trust a car that doesn’t have a recommended oil change interval shown in its manual. Too much room for interpretation to suit me.
jmonroe
'18 Legacy Limited with 3.6R (Mrs. j's)
Personally, I like my tires to have good tread so tend to swap them out maybe a bit too soon. But the thought of having a flat or blowout on the road is not something I want. And since we get rain frequently down here, like good tread between me & the road. Am finding these Goodyear's wearing very evenly to be honest and it has improved the ride/handling of the Golf a bit. And with the rebates they were offering at the time, was the right time to purchase new sneakers. Have 17" rims & tires right now but got a feeling my next vehicle will be going up to 18" ones.
Looked online last night, and seems there's a lot more vehicles in-transit to the brands I'm scoping out, a good thing as I'm not quite ready to pull that trigger yet. Shooting for a 2024 model right now.
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2025 VW GTI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
BMW's intervals used to be based on fuel consumption, time, or a hard mileage cap, whichever came first.
GM's system was based on the number of engine revolutions plus a penalty for cold starts, or a hard mileage cap. Newer versions have incorporated a one year time limit, and I think the hard mileage cap got reduced to 7,500 miles on at least some models.
Honda and Acura's algorithm was similar to GM's, although I'm not sure they incorporated a time limit.
Chrysler's system used to observe driving behavior during the first few hundred miles after an oil change, and then pre-select either a 4,000 mile or 8,000 mile interval based on that.
Ford's system, for quite some time, is condition based (there isn't much information on which specific conditions are monitored), but has had a hard cap of 10,000 miles or 12 months since the last change. I remember the system in my old Mustang clicking off 2% per week like clockwork, regardless of how little I drove it. I also think there is some sort of heuristic to prevent it from dropping suddenly if you have driven fewer miles than expected since the last oil change and drive a lot in a shorter interval. I'm not sure whether mine was reset when the Maverick was delivered, but it now shows 86% oil life remaining with 1,653 miles on the clock. I think it was 97% or so after driving it the ~700 miles home.
Toyota's system on the Tundra I had and the Prius gives you a brief warning at 4,500 miles and a constant reminder after 5,000 miles. On the Prius, that means it's time for an oil change, but on the Tundra, only a tire rotation was needed at 5,000 miles, and the oil was good for 10,000.
Even under local driving conditions, if the vehicle is running for long periods, I can see it doing okay with good oil and a 20,000 mile interval. However, if the owner is just guessing (basing the interval on the "claims" of the manufacturer), then the owner may be unknowingly doing a little damage to the engine through increased wear metals and/or acid corrosion.
The only way to know for sure is UOA.
I can say that I've confidently run intervals as high as 16,000 miles between changes. Just this past summer, I did the oil change on our Crosstrek during AMW. It then did the round trip to Ohio, and I didn't change the oil again until the second week of October (after we arrived home). We put about 13,500 on it during that interval, if I recall correctly.
My Acuras (the old ones for sure and I think the 2020) only works on condition algorithm, but won't trigger based on time even though you are supposed to do by 12 months regardless of miles. I know with the 2013 RDX, I used to usually hit 12 months before it got down to calling for a change (driving less than 5k/year will do that!). So you needed to remember.
the bigger hassle was, until the wrench came on at 15%, it wouldn't tell you what was required so needed to guess. The 2020, I don't think I have run that out to a full year yet to know about the 12 months, but it does show already what the next service required is going to be.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech
2021 VW Arteon SEL 4-motion, 2018 VW Passat SE w/tech, 2016 Audi Q5 Premium Plus w/tech
I've done the same thing as your other post, put an expensive set of new Michelins on a car and then promptly traded it in.
though we were looking in the first place because the wife had changed jobs and had a nastier commute with some scary highway portions, and wanted the upgrade on the safety features that my cars had (BLIS, etc. and Navi/car play).
put that all together, combine to a killer offer through cars.com (or one of those buying services), and the numbers made too much sense not to!
of course, with my sense of impeccable timing, we bought in on Friday May 12(?) 2020. and the world shut down the following Monday, and my wife became a permanent WFH person. so the new car went to her office maybe 10 times total since then.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Strangely the oil monitor on my old Chevy cargo van seems more sophisticated. The first time it lit up was after 5000 miles and the second time was at 4000 miles. It must use something other than mileage or time.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
https://dtsc.ca.gov/dtsc-website-archive/etc-extended-oil-change-intervals/
I know that Chevron (and other majors) have done extensive internal testing on engine oil life. Most of that has not been publicized, after all they WANT you to change your oil. But their internal testing indicates that engine oil lasts a lot longer than most believe.
I myself change the oil in my cars more frequently than I have to, just because it gives me a certain degree of confidence. I also replace spark plugs (and plug wires where they exist) more frequently, once again as it makes me feel more confident. Radiator hoses, fan belts, other items as well.
YMMV
So, Tesla figured they’d provide half the credit upfront to entice buyers to take delivery now.
2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2025 BRZ - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman
The wife got over 60k miles on her Town & Country’s OEM tires. I was on pace to need new ones on my Honda Fit at about 10k. It is all about the driver, IMHO.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
But the bottom line seems to be that the EV price war has already just begun, sooner than I thought it would.
Tesla Austin is now making 3000 EVs a week, or 12,000 a month.
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-hits-3000-cars-week-berlin-austin-later-than-planned-2022-12-19/
But by the end of 2023, if things goes well, Tesla Texas should be making 50,000 EVs a month, and by the end of 2024 that one factory might be making about 80,000 EVs a month. Meanwhile Tesla Freemont is already at full capacity and making about 600,000 EVs a year.
The Federal Tax subsidy should mean that every EV produced will be sold fairly quickly, but with the numbers of EVs available exploding from Tesla and everyone else prices will almost certainly fall. There might be some EV deals by 2024, at Tesla and elsewhere.
I only got 27K out of the OEM Bridgestones on my 06 Avalon and if I would have kept the 09 Genesis for the entire term I would have needed tires around 30k in that as well.
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Cars are traded before service is needed😎
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on the oil question, a reason I am changing early is because the engine (well, both of them) are DI turbos, and are known to have more issues with condensation in the oil (oil dilution). The oil itself might still have additives but don't want the water in there.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
And, lest we forget, $10k off of $54k isn't nearly as enticing as $10k off of $44k.
25 NX 450h+ / 24 Sienna Plat AWD / 23 Civic Type-R / 21 Boxster GTS 4.0
Other than that, it's comfortable, powerful, the ride quality is good, and as I've mentioned before, the transmission is perfect in that it always seems to pick the correct gear. I can't really complain, because I can't think of a new vehicle in the same price range that would be better.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
https://electrek.co/2022/10/18/us-electric-vehicle-sales-by-maker-and-ev-model-through-q3-2022/
Currently the Tesla Model Y by itself has 33% of the EV market. The Model 3 has 27%. And so those two models alone have 60% of the EV market. The Ford Mustang Mach-E is at 5%. The VW ID.4 is currently at 2%.
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
Oh, and I have no heat in the cabin.
Sorry; I'm just trying to help y'all feel better about your vehicles' little niggles.
2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee L Limited Velvet Red over Wicker Beige
2024 Audi Q5 Premium Plus Daytona Gray over Beige
2017 BMW X1 Jet Black over Mocha
2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible
Here is a great deal if you like lemon buy back with 3 accidents on the carfax. Looks like they have had it for over a year too.
https://www.motorwerks.com/inventory/used-2019-mercedes-benz-s-class-s-63-amg®-4matic®-4d-sedan-wddug8jbxka479493/
Worst one I’ve seen was when I was chasing Land Cruisers and found one with 7, yes 7, accidents on the CarFax.
2024 Jeep Grand Cherokee L Limited Velvet Red over Wicker Beige
2024 Audi Q5 Premium Plus Daytona Gray over Beige
2017 BMW X1 Jet Black over Mocha