Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

andres3

oldfarmer50 said:

henryn said:

https://www.thecarconnection.com/news/1138935_high-interest-rates-car-prices-lead-to-record-loans-debt

New car shoppers continue to pay record levels, and many are funding their purchases with record-level loan amounts that teeter into delinquencies and eventually, negative equity, or owing more than the car is worth. Recent reports from Edmunds and Bloomberg found that high interest rates coupled with high new car prices and cooling used car values have found many Americans upside down on their car loans.

The average new car interest rate rose to 6.5% in Q4 of 2022, up from 4.1% a year earlier, according to data from Edmunds. The confluence of high new car prices and higher interest rates means that borrowers owe more and are taking out longer, more expensive loans to finance their purchase.

The average term limit of a new car loan is 70 months, which has stayed relatively even for the past few years. The difference now is the monthly payment has ballooned to $717 per month in Q4 of 2022, up from $659 a year ago. Nearly 16% of new car borrowers are paying more than $1,000 per month—a record—due to the double whammy of high new car prices and high interest rates.

I just don’t understand the mindset of going deep into debt on a depreciating asset. I get that sometimes you NEED a car to get to work but there are cheaper alternatives to buying a $70k SUV. It’s as if you have children who can’t control themselves running wild in the toy store.

In my poor days I went strictly used and didn’t buy a new car for 22 years. Instead I bought hand me downs from relatives who I knew took good care of their cars. Drove them into the ground and then looked for another cheapo. Never had to take out a loan because I put money aside for the next one.

The behavior some people display seems almost self destructive.

Used cars are not for everyone. A dead battery or blown motor would freak many people out.

andres3

Test Drove an '18 TTRS too the other night.

GREAT CAR! Now that's a car. Fast, quick (but not lightning as compared to a Stage 1 TTS with APR intake it's closer than you might think). Handled great on the "fixed RS suspension" option, but when the road gets bumpy; not as fun. It was on 20's though.

I like the car, but it's not worth double my TTS, and the numbers coming in are indicating that's what the market is saying. $30+K delta isn't justified, but here's what I loved and might throw some value to:

1. 5 Cylinder Motor = $5K (vs. Stage 1 TTS)
2. Exhaust Sound of that Motor = $5K (what a sports car should sound like without artificial support)
3. 7 dual clutch gears vs. my 6 = $5K
4. RS Label without up-badge shaming = $1K
5. RS' depreciate slower = $2K
6. 26K Miles vs. my 59K miles = $10K?
7. 2018 vs. my 2016 = $5K

So I can get to 33K using the above..... do the deal if they agree (think they probably will)????? They started around $40K at first but that was their first numbers.

Well, not so fast.

8. Risk of TTRS after warranty (bought used with mostly unknown history) vs. TTS that has been stellar and maintained to the hilt = - $10,000

So I can justify a $23K delta; maybe 25. Don't think they are doing that deal.

I've already upgraded the TTS brakes to be as good or better, so I just can't get to $30K +.

stickguy

you have some interesting math if 2 model years is worth the same amount of $ as 1 extra gear in the tranny.

stickguy

I actually did the same basic analysis though to see if the wife wanted to upgrade to the 2023 X3. Depending on how close the BMW dealer came to Carmax offer that delta was probably in the $16 (pushing it) to $19k range. Probably not worth it to her, though I am sure she would really like the BMW. She just also likes her car.

Hey, I tried to upgrade her. If she wants to stand pat, I will just get stuff for me!

andres3

stickguy said:

you have some interesting math if 2 model years is worth the same amount of $ as 1 extra gear in the tranny.

That's what I call Audi's BIGGEST flaw in the early MK3 TTS'; the lack of the optimal 7-speed DSG.
I did value the mileage at a whopping 10K already; so went light on the years.

On my revised second take I lowered the engine/exhaust/tranny to $4K each.

roadburner

My wife and I were preparing to spend most of the day cutting up the fallen trees when a friend from our church showed up with his 15 year old son(in his immaculate TJ Unlimited Rubicon. He and his son had showed up early this morning and had already cut and moved the trees. We couldn't thank them enough!

xwesx

jmonroe1 said:

That black job that's still standing between the 2 downed trees looks like it should get a quick pass with the chainsaw while you're out there cleaning up the downed trees.

jmonroe

It might be better to just let nature take its course like it did with the others. That's a dangerous shape for a typical chainsaw cutting; those aren't called widowmakers for nothing. When you cut them, they have a reasonable chance of landing such that they can spring backward toward the stump... which is in the immediate area of where the cutter is standing!

I have a cousin who was struck by such a tree when he cut it, and he barely lived to tell the tale (and has said on multiple occasions that he wished he wouldn't have survived).

xwesx

stickguy said:

you have some interesting math if 2 model years is worth the same amount of $ as 1 extra gear in the tranny.

You must consider that the want is strong here, so he's being pretty generous to at least have a place to negotiate.

roadburner

@xwesx said:
It might be better to just let nature take its course like it did with the others. That's a dangerous shape for a typical chainsaw cutting; those aren't called widowmakers for nothing. When you cut them, they have a reasonable chance of landing such that they can spring backward toward the stump... which is in the immediate area of where the cutter is standing!

I have a cousin who was struck by such a tree when he cut it, and he barely lived to tell the tale (and has said on multiple occasions that he wished he wouldn't have survived).

I agree, even when a tree is on the ground it might roll or snap in an unexpected manner.

imidazol97

roadburner said:

My wife and I were preparing to spend most of the day cutting up the fallen trees when a friend from our church showed up with his 15 year old son(in his immaculate TJ Unlimited Rubicon. He and his son had showed up early this morning and had already cut and moved the trees. We couldn't thank them enough!

The black one is still there, upright.

Sandman6472

Worked from 8:45 to 4 today and we were sure busy. Moved like 25 vehicles in all & ended up at Palm Beach International. All in all, a good day and this week I will have just over 36 hours which will make up for those ten days I missed in February. Hate missing work when I'm not feeling well but some times, it's just unavoidable. But getting a few days to make up those hours helps. Taking off the 13th as the kid has jury duty & some how, I got volunteered to drive her to downtown Ft. Lauderdale. Hoping hat when she calls up at 5 on the 12th that they'll say they don't need her service anymore so I can just go to work & not use those 8 hours of PTO.

henryn

xwesx said:

jmonroe1 said:

That black job that's still standing between the 2 downed trees looks like it should get a quick pass with the chainsaw while you're out there cleaning up the downed trees.

jmonroe

It might be better to just let nature take its course like it did with the others. That's a dangerous shape for a typical chainsaw cutting; those aren't called widowmakers for nothing. When you cut them, they have a reasonable chance of landing such that they can spring backward toward the stump... which is in the immediate area of where the cutter is standing!

I have a cousin who was struck by such a tree when he cut it, and he barely lived to tell the tale (and has said on multiple occasions that he wished he wouldn't have survived).

That's one of those jobs that I just won't do anymore. I don't climb ladders as my sense of balance sucks these days, and I don't use a chainsaw on anything serious as I am no longer agile or quick on my feet. I will trim off smaller branches (3 or 4 inches), and cut up medium sized branches on the ground, but nothing big that might require fast reactions.

Paying one of the local handymen a few dollars is a lot cheaper than an extended stay in the hospital.

And speaking of the hospital, I just today received the statement from my BlueCross Medicare supplement for the recent stay in the hospital. That was for implanting a pacemaker, with an overnight stay in the hospital, bottom line $76k. Cost to me, zero. That was fairly cheap, compared to the heart ablation a year ago which ran nearly $100k, and was outpatient, no overnight stay.

I've said it before, I really like Medicare. As long as you can afford a good supplement plan, it is truly marvelous.

cdnpinhead

In case you're wondering how things are paid for by those who either can't/won't pay or who don't have insurance. Those colossal amounts are absorbed by someone, be it tax payers, those who actually pay for insurance, or others.

Ain't no free lunch.

qbrozen

Oh boy.

https://carvanaauction.com/

28firefighter

How can a company like carvana offer a 14 day guarantee on anything? They could be gone by day 2…

explorerx4

I saw a YT video about their auctions. In the one I watched the vehicles were packed so tight you couldn't even open the doors on them.

stickguy

they barely look at them when purchasing. Go over more thoroughly afterwards. and almost all are under warranty. I assume they work on the "we disclose the inspection report so trust us) plan.

if you watch the real auctions, most of the people bidding barely have looked at the cars either.

jmonroe1

xwesx said:

jmonroe1 said:

That black job that's still standing between the 2 downed trees looks like it should get a quick pass with the chainsaw while you're out there cleaning up the downed trees.

jmonroe

It might be better to just let nature take its course like it did with the others. That's a dangerous shape for a typical chainsaw cutting; those aren't called widowmakers for nothing. When you cut them, they have a reasonable chance of landing such that they can spring backward toward the stump... which is in the immediate area of where the cutter is standing!

I have a cousin who was struck by such a tree when he cut it, and he barely lived to tell the tale (and has said on multiple occasions that he wished he wouldn't have survived).

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That being the case maybe @roadburner could have suggested to his lumberjack buddy and son that they do it.

jmonroe

jmonroe1

cdnpinhead said:

In case you're wondering how things are paid for by those who either can't/won't pay or who don't have insurance. Those colossal amounts are absorbed by someone, be it tax payers, those who actually pay for insurance, or others.

Ain't no free lunch.

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In a way I agree but for those that don’t have insurance, for whatever reason, they’ll always get a free lunch.

jmonroe

kyfdx

Didn't Carvana buy Adesa? They are already in the auction business. It's likely just a rebrand.

explorerx4

At auction, the cars are usually looked at ahead of the actual auction to see which one's they want to bid on.

kyfdx

@henryn Medicare with a supplement is the best deal you can get in health insurance. Between Part B, supplement and Part D, my wife pays less than $300/mo., and other than the $2XX deductible at the beginning of the year, her out of pocket costs are just about zero.

My current health insurance is $1220/mo, with a $2300 annual deductible. But, just until June.

stickguy

that is one of the bigger concerns to us about just packing it in and retiring early. how expensive it is to cover health insurance. At least for the first year when the income basis (I believe it is a look back year?) takes ACA out of the picture.

ab348

henryn said:

And speaking of the hospital, I just today received the statement from my BlueCross Medicare supplement for the recent stay in the hospital. That was for implanting a pacemaker, with an overnight stay in the hospital, bottom line $76k. Cost to me, zero. That was fairly cheap, compared to the heart ablation a year ago which ran nearly $100k, and was outpatient, no overnight stay.

I've said it before, I really like Medicare. As long as you can afford a good supplement plan, it is truly marvelous.

Those prices are mind-boggling. I wonder how they go about determining them.

kyfdx

stickguy said:

that is one of the bigger concerns to us about just packing it in and retiring early. how expensive it is to cover health insurance. At least for the first year when the income basis (I believe it is a look back year?) takes ACA out of the picture.

18 months of COBRA should get you past the income issue.

henryn

kyfdx said:

@henryn Medicare with a supplement is the best deal you can get in health insurance. Between Part B, supplement and Part D, my wife pays less than $300/mo., and other than the $2XX deductible at the beginning of the year, her out of pocket costs are just about zero.

My current health insurance is $1220/mo, with a $2300 annual deductible. But, just until June.

Medicare Part B, Supplement, and Part D (RX) total out at $436 for me, but I get $99 a month from Chevron as a part of my retirement package to help cover that. When I first signed up for Medicare, I was paying around $400 a month just for Part B, and that has now dropped to $165 thanks to my much lower income. The supplement plan has gone up, from $189 to $247, but the RX plan has stayed fairly steady, hovering around $20 to $25.

I don't have the $226 deductible at the beginning of the year, as I am on the older Plan F supplement which covers the deductible. I would like to switch to a Plan G as the lower premiums would save me about $600 per year, but they won't let me.

oldfarmer50

andres3 said:

oldfarmer50 said:

henryn said:

https://www.thecarconnection.com/news/1138935_high-interest-rates-car-prices-lead-to-record-loans-debt

New car shoppers continue to pay record levels, and many are funding their purchases with record-level loan amounts that teeter into delinquencies and eventually, negative equity, or owing more than the car is worth. Recent reports from Edmunds and Bloomberg found that high interest rates coupled with high new car prices and cooling used car values have found many Americans upside down on their car loans.

The average new car interest rate rose to 6.5% in Q4 of 2022, up from 4.1% a year earlier, according to data from Edmunds. The confluence of high new car prices and higher interest rates means that borrowers owe more and are taking out longer, more expensive loans to finance their purchase.

The average term limit of a new car loan is 70 months, which has stayed relatively even for the past few years. The difference now is the monthly payment has ballooned to $717 per month in Q4 of 2022, up from $659 a year ago. Nearly 16% of new car borrowers are paying more than $1,000 per month—a record—due to the double whammy of high new car prices and high interest rates.

I just don’t understand the mindset of going deep into debt on a depreciating asset. I get that sometimes you NEED a car to get to work but there are cheaper alternatives to buying a $70k SUV. It’s as if you have children who can’t control themselves running wild in the toy store.

In my poor days I went strictly used and didn’t buy a new car for 22 years. Instead I bought hand me downs from relatives who I knew took good care of their cars. Drove them into the ground and then looked for another cheapo. Never had to take out a loan because I put money aside for the next one.

The behavior some people display seems almost self destructive.

Used cars are not for everyone. A dead battery or blown motor would freak many people out.

Haha for most of my life that would be the rule not the exception.😩

kyfdx

@henryn My wife's supplement is through United Healthcare, which has the AARP brand. But, I'm not well versed on the rules, etc.. Her Part D is through another company, and is really cheap ($10/mo). That said, we each only have one prescription, so not sure how great the coverage is on that part of it.

oldfarmer50

roadburner said:

@xwesx said:

It might be better to just let nature take its course like it did with the others. That's a dangerous shape for a typical chainsaw cutting; those aren't called widowmakers for nothing. When you cut them, they have a reasonable chance of landing such that they can spring backward toward the stump... which is in the immediate area of where the cutter is standing!

I have a cousin who was struck by such a tree when he cut it, and he barely lived to tell the tale (and has said on multiple occasions that he wished he wouldn't have survived).

I agree, even when a tree is on the ground it might roll or snap in an unexpected manner.

Not as dangerous as changing your own oil.

henryn

oldfarmer50 said:

roadburner said:

@xwesx said:

It might be better to just let nature take its course like it did with the others. That's a dangerous shape for a typical chainsaw cutting; those aren't called widowmakers for nothing. When you cut them, they have a reasonable chance of landing such that they can spring backward toward the stump... which is in the immediate area of where the cutter is standing!

I have a cousin who was struck by such a tree when he cut it, and he barely lived to tell the tale (and has said on multiple occasions that he wished he wouldn't have survived).

I agree, even when a tree is on the ground it might roll or snap in an unexpected manner.

Not as dangerous as changing your own oil.

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I don't follow that one, you're going to have to explain it to me. If you put the car up on ramps, or jack stands, the danger of it falling on you is very close to nil. What other dangers are you thinking of?

oldfarmer50

cdnpinhead said:

In case you're wondering how things are paid for by those who either can't/won't pay or who don't have insurance. Those colossal amounts are absorbed by someone, be it tax payers, those who actually pay for insurance, or others.

Ain't no free lunch.

Not always. When my wife had a stroke we had no insurance because we couldn’t afford it. The $50k bill was padded an extra 10% by NYS to (get this) pay for people who had no insurance. I asked them why I didn’t qualify and was told “sell you house”. I didn’t mind paying for my lunch just not somebody else’s.

oldfarmer50

qbrozen said:

Oh boy.

https://carvanaauction.com/

Sounds like they want to avoid auction fees.

ab348

henryn said:

I don't follow that one, you're going to have to explain it to me. If you put the car up on ramps, or jack stands, the danger of it falling on you is very close to nil. What other dangers are you thinking of?

When I had my Cutlass I always did the annual oil change in my garage without ramps or stands. I could just shimmy under the front of the car to get at the drain plug and filter pretty easily. Oddly enough the last time I did it the front springs must have settled as it was noticeably tighter down there to the point where my head barely fit, though the car didn’t seem to look lower in front but I suppose it happened gradually enough for me to not notice.

jmonroe1

ab348 said:

henryn said:

I don't follow that one, you're going to have to explain it to me. If you put the car up on ramps, or jack stands, the danger of it falling on you is very close to nil. What other dangers are you thinking of?

When I had my Cutlass I always did the annual oil change in my garage without ramps or stands. I could just shimmy under the front of the car to get at the drain plug and filter pretty easily. Oddly enough the last time I did it the front springs must have settled as it was noticeably tighter down there to the point where my head barely fit, though the car didn’t seem to look lower in front but I suppose it happened gradually enough for me to not notice.

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When folks gain weight it’s done slowly. Nobody gains 30 pounds overnight.

jmonroe

oldfarmer50

stickguy said:

that is one of the bigger concerns to us about just packing it in and retiring early. how expensive it is to cover health insurance. At least for the first year when the income basis (I believe it is a look back year?) takes ACA out of the picture.

Good question. I don’t think NYS Family Health Plus has a look back provision except when you want Medicaid for nursing home care but the state websites are frustratingly vague on that subject. Might be worth looking into if your income had dropped enough.

Sandman6472

In 2018 when I had my gall bladder taken out, I was too young for Medicare, by just one year. The total bill came to around $178K and I did try to negotiate with the hospital for my part, which was like 15% I think. I was told they wouldn't negotiate at all since I had a health plan for ex-federal employees. I offered to pay 50% right then & there but again was told no. Guy kind of snickered when I asked if I were poor, what would happen. He told me that since I wasn't, didn't really matter. My total bill was around $4900. I asked what was the lowest amount I could pay monthly and he said $125.
I just could've written a check for the whole amount but figured I'd pay as slowly as I could which is what happened. Definitely sucks when this kind of stuff happens. We've never asked for any kind of government assistance of any kind as we're basically just a middle class family. So, thought this kind of sucked as I wanted to pay the bill but just at a lower rate after some folks told me they had negotiated the fee. Took me till the end of 2022 to pay this bill off which I did.
Now, with Medicare and our secondary federal health plan, I never pay my co-pay at the pain doctor as it's all covered plus I didn't have to pay a co-pay at the eye doctor in February since I met whatever we had to for the year already. This getting older is great...if one is healthy it seems. If not, totally sucks getting old! Having he bars put on in the shower Wednesday so I'll have something to grab onto getting in & out plus another long one to hold on to when I'm in there It has some kind of covering that's a bit grainy for better grip. And that should solve this issue for good. Keep the walker by the bed for my nocturnal jaunts into the bathroom and still taking the meds for the vertigo as I feel it most when getting in or out of bed right now. Continuing the 3 days at work for the time being & holding off on going down to 2 as I had wanted. The new schedule seems to be a better compromise here though I did end up working yesterday again. But it won't be every weekend as it's just too much for my body right now.

tjc78

Thought I may have been doing a little shopping. Wife has expressed interest in another S60 for her. I’m not totally happy they no longer have the T6 option, but I really thought she would have liked this unit. She typically loves the blacked out look. This one also has Polestar.

https://www.cherryhillvolvocars.com/new/Volvo/2023-Volvo-S60-near-philadelphia-pa-598fae790a0e0a99348688427229cc4d.htm

tjc78

Oh… forgot why she said no. Her comment was the wood inside (same as what my S60 had) doesn’t look right with the black.

Sandman6472

Worked at the Manheim auction during 2018 in West Palm Beach. Was very quick paced for those few hours and I'd drive some nice vehicles but also some that weren't so nice either. Folks would ask me questions which I was told never to answer since I really had no correct answer for them. Had to stop due to my gall bladder surgery and never went back once I recovered. It was fun just to try it but, not long term.
Same thing with working at Toyota last year. Wanted to try it since I was always turned down years ago. Proved to myself that I could do the job but doing just those two afternoons each week proved to be more than my body could handle. Think if my Enterprise gig ever ended, they'd welcome me back without question. But like the current work situation right now & don't think things will change for a long while. My new crew is working out nicely & that one driver I really don't care for, I keep it light & am cordial. The others are nice gentlemen who I get along with very nicely. Think it was the right move at the right time as I was ready for a change of crews anyways.

Sandman6472

Turned out to be a longer then expected work day yesterday. We ended up going to PBI at the end of the day anyways so worked an extra hour till 4 o'clock. It was employee appreciation day on Friday so we had a special breakfast at 7:15 which was very nice. Since the computers were down yesterday, went in this morning to the closest open office to clock out for yesterday and saw that I worked just shy of 37 hours last week. So, this next paycheck will be a bit extra which is fine by me. Once I'm there, I'd rather stay all day if possible. Friday turned out to be a bit slow in the afternoon so having yesterday on this check helped. Unlike Hertz where we got paid weekly, back to bi-weekly now at Enterprise which is still o k. I've also started to bring my lunch with the new crew so we'll see how long this will last. Means me getting up 5 minutes earlier in the morning to make & then pack the lunch. Some of the guys have these really big lunch pails but holding off buying another one just to see if I can sustain this new lunch routine. Will have to get a bit creative as know I'll get tired of sandwiches in due time. Having chicken legs tonight so if I have any left over, that could work.
I don't eat that much anymore though some of the others eat a whole lot. My kid was making me take too much food last week so think I'll cut back now that she went home. Have gained a few pounds which I don't like to be honest. So will just pack a bit less and all will be fine. The girls think I passed out due to not eating enough which is totally possible but really think I tripped on the floor mat with my cane. Happens to many & just clumsy on my part.

sda

The nonsense continues. (https://us.v-cdn.net/5021145/uploads/editor/yh/xcwyq3lxic1m.jpg "")

Michaell

I think @breld saw an Si with a $45K price on it.

mjfloyd1

TTRS for @andres3

https://www.mbofwalnutcreek.com/used/Audi/2018-Audi-TT+RS-near+San+Francisco-ef2c229a0a0e0a992a434bb3799cdb94.htm

au1994

“How about no?” - Dr Evil.

Sandman6472

Have seen a lot of the new Civic's on the road down here and like them. Did drove one about 6 months ago that we bought used from a local Honda store. Had relatively low miles on it but bet we paid a high price for it. Drove very nicely and just wish I had the room for one to be honest. Would go for a Touring model in a light color with a mid level of top of the line model. Just don't get why Toyota has still not done something with the Corolla yet to raise the bar a bit. Current model is old & tired looking.
After lunch the other day while waiting for our chase van to pick us up, saw a Corolla hatch waiting to be rented. It was in a color I'd not seen before, a light rust color and had a black interior. Got inside & liked what I felt & touched. Ergonomically, everything was where it needed to be. Seats were comfortable and had decent side bolsters and felt I wouldn't need to sit on my special cushion if I had these seats. Only thing I didn't like was it was a bit low and egress/ingress was a bit difficult for me. Really needed to be raised a few inches but that's where the new Corolla Cross comes in. Just wish they hadn't made it longer to be truthful here. But, as others have duly noted, think I'd be bored after a few weeks with one. And the more I look at the Kona, liking the Limited version better than the N-Line due to the better Harman Kardon audio system it has plus the additional two speakers. Like the gray color but my first choice would be the white pearl paint even if they charged a bit more for it. It just shimmers in the sunlight when clean. Do prefer the N-Line steering wheel with the orange stitching, the shifter and the seats better than those in the Limited though. So, it really comes down to do I prefer the better audio system over the N-Line extra features if I were to end up with one. Plus, the Limited model does cost more money but not enough more to make it even matter much.
Should be very interesting when I do decide to pull the damn trigger finally. But thinking now that 2024 is definitely going to be the year I do something and just be done with it all. Just hope I get to drive a few more at work going forward. We've been getting in more Hyundai/Kia products recently which is a good thing.

Sandman6472

Noticed this morning my left front tire is wearing a bit more than the right one is. Think I'm due for a 4-wheel alignment but need to buy another 3-year policy again as mine ran out this past November. They do allow a one time change on the policy if one does get a new vehicle unlike the lifetime alignment policy which has to stick with the vehicle it was bought for. They did let me move it from my 2006 Civic to my 2014 Tucson at the time and since my friend worked there at the time, got the last year thrown onto my current Golf. But think the time has come to buy another. Don't really want to put anymore tires on the Golf & definitely going to a Goodyear company owned store as the closest one is just too far away. And Tires Choice won't honor their road hazard policy. So guess it's back to Tires plus the next time I buy tires. I can even go to a Firestone location & be taken care of & since there are so many of both locations near me, I'm happy.
Discount Tire has come to South Florida but stops in Palm Beach County. Their nearest store is on 441 just south of Southern Blvd. which is a drive from our house. Their other location on Lake Worth Rd. is farther east from us but probably the same amount of miles. So I think I'd use their 441 store since we live by that road down here in Broward County. But do I really want to be so far away from either location is the big question here? I know many folks in these forums use them & swear by them so maybe, it just might be worth the extra drive & hassle if something goes wrong.
But, first thingI need to do is go purchase the 3-year policy & have it done.

Just did a duck duck go search and turns out there's a Discount Tire in Weston FL, close to where I bought the Goodyear tires from. Might try there.

tjc78

How often do you all need your car aligned? I haven’t had an alignment issue for years and it’s not like our roads are great here.

kyfdx

tjc78 said:

How often do you all need your car aligned? I haven’t had an alignment issue for years and it’s not like our roads are great here.

Almost never..

oldfarmer50

henryn said:

oldfarmer50 said:

roadburner said:

@xwesx said:

It might be better to just let nature take its course like it did with the others. That's a dangerous shape for a typical chainsaw cutting; those aren't called widowmakers for nothing. When you cut them, they have a reasonable chance of landing such that they can spring backward toward the stump... which is in the immediate area of where the cutter is standing!

I have a cousin who was struck by such a tree when he cut it, and he barely lived to tell the tale (and has said on multiple occasions that he wished he wouldn't have survived).

I agree, even when a tree is on the ground it might roll or snap in an unexpected manner.

Not as dangerous as changing your own oil.

==============end quoted material===================

I don't follow that one, you're going to have to explain it to me. If you put the car up on ramps, or jack stands, the danger of it falling on you is very close to nil. What other dangers are you thinking of?


It’s an inside joke. Ask roadburner.

qbrozen