Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

tjc78

High range trade in is $43,760 and payoff is $42716 so most likely a wash. I was expecting it to be much worse.

tjc78

@breld said:
I can offer you a better deal on a short-term Polestar 2 lease.

Haha no lease transfers on Volvo!

nyccarguy

I forgot to mention this, but last Wednesday night I dropped my Jeep off at the dealership to have them take care of the recall, the service bulletin, oil change, tire rotation, the electrical connection that unsoldered itself so the rear defroster doesn't function, and to have them put in a warranty claim for the Gorilla Glass. I dropped it off because they told me they needed it for a few days. I figured it was a good time to do so because my 14 year old son had a hockey tournament in Lake Placid, NY. They called me at 12:30 pm to tell me they are just taking a look at the car. Said theyd take care of everything, but "I don't understand what you mean by file a warranty claim with Gorilla Glass. You have to go through your insurance company for that." So I'll have to try to get that resolved somewhere else. Anyway, they called back late in the afternoon and said it was ready. So I got it back with everything taken care of as well as a new rear flip up glass window.

breld

tjc78 said:

@breld said:

I can offer you a better deal on a short-term Polestar 2 lease.

Haha no lease transfers on Volvo!

Not for lack of trying though!

laurasdada

I like being able to store music on my Apple watch; good for running (now walking)...

au1994

Love my Apple watch. I’m addicted to closing my rings! Got it for Christmas in ‘19 and never had an issue with it not displaying time. I turn my wrist towards me and it pops up. Seems simple.

I’ve got a really nice TAG in a drawer that I never wear but just can’t bring myself to sell. It was a reward to myself for a nice bonus one year. After other more responsible stuff and the rest of the fam was taken care of first of course.

roadburner

jmonroe1 said:

roadburner said:

laurasdada said:

My watches charge by simply wearing them. Of course, all they do is tell the time and date (and, some , chronograph).
Now, get off my lawn!

(Full disclosure, I have two Apple watches; one died as the back of the case mysteriously shattered. A shame, it was a beauty)

Smart watches don't interest me.

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Why? Do you feel threatened?

jmonroe

Nope- just prefer my two Tag Heuers.

laurasdada

I'm slowly building a collection; like cars, I've always had a thing for watches.
I need more wrists.

Seiko (45 years, graduation gift!)
Tag Heuer (29 years)
IWC (22 years old, may have died, so replaced with the Hamilton)
Omega (19 years)
Shinola (4 years, souvenir from Aruba)
Baume & Mercier (2 years, in memory of my late father)
Hamilton (new!)
Invictas! (Because I'm addicted to the ShopHQ watch show. Some big, ugly stuff. And, nice to have a couple of throw/donate aways)

And, I've bought a few as gifts for relatives.

Currently intrigued by Tudor, Omega Speedmaster and, as an independent Swiss brand, Oris (got a free Oris hat and coffee mug at the last Greenwich Concourse I attended, so I feel I should buy an Oris)

explorerx4

Kids are talking numbers with a dealer.
The Escape they went to look at first, sold yesterday.
It had a 3 cylinder, so it would not have been my first choice.
I found a Titanium model close by so they looked at that one and are taking it to the next step.

stickguy

dealer by me seemed to have a decent supply on the lot of escapes and Bronco sports back in January when I got my oil changed (which in retrospect, I should not have bothered to do!)

I don't think I could convince myself to get the 3 pot engine. I would spend the extra and stick with the 2.0t. That was nice in my Maverick.

explorerx4

The one they are looking at(TI) has the 4 cyl.
Can get 0% for 48 months or .9% for 60 months.

breld

If you're flexible on purchase options, those promotional financing offers are enticing.

au1994

stickguy said:

dealer by me seemed to have a decent supply on the lot of escapes and Bronco sports back in January when I got my oil changed (which in retrospect, I should not have bothered to do!)

I don't think I could convince myself to get the 3 pot engine. I would spend the extra and stick with the 2.0t. That was nice in my Maverick.

I think the Bronco Sport is nice looking, but like yourself, I can’t bring myself to do a 3 banger. My mind just screams Geo Metro!!!

kyfdx

au1994 said:

stickguy said:

dealer by me seemed to have a decent supply on the lot of escapes and Bronco sports back in January when I got my oil changed (which in retrospect, I should not have bothered to do!)

I don't think I could convince myself to get the 3 pot engine. I would spend the extra and stick with the 2.0t. That was nice in my Maverick.

I think the Bronco Sport is nice looking, but like yourself, I can’t bring myself to do a 3 banger. My mind just screams Geo Metro!!!

Isn't the new Corolla GR a turbo 3? 300 hp

corvette

Agree, the 2.0T is a great powertrain. Not sure how it's bundled on the Escape, I know on the Bronco Sport you have to belly up to a trim level that's $40k+, if I recall.

jmonroe1

tjc78 said:

@breld said:

I can offer you a better deal on a short-term Polestar 2 lease.

Haha no lease transfers on Volvo!

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His quick turnaround dealership license circumvents that.

jmonroe

jmonroe1

nyccarguy said:

I forgot to mention this, but last Wednesday night I dropped my Jeep off at the dealership to have them take care of the recall, the service bulletin, oil change, tire rotation, the electrical connection that unsoldered itself so the rear defroster doesn't function, and to have them put in a warranty claim for the Gorilla Glass. I dropped it off because they told me they needed it for a few days. I figured it was a good time to do so because my 14 year old son had a hockey tournament in Lake Placid, NY. They called me at 12:30 pm to tell me they are just taking a look at the car. Said theyd take care of everything, but "I don't understand what you mean by file a warranty claim with Gorilla Glass. You have to go through your insurance company for that." So I'll have to try to get that resolved somewhere else. Anyway, they called back late in the afternoon and said it was ready. So I got it back with everything taken care of as well as a new rear flip up glass window.

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Sounds to me like your Jeep would qualify for the Lemon Law program.

jmonroe

andres3

jmonroe1 said:

nyccarguy said:

I forgot to mention this, but last Wednesday night I dropped my Jeep off at the dealership to have them take care of the recall, the service bulletin, oil change, tire rotation, the electrical connection that unsoldered itself so the rear defroster doesn't function, and to have them put in a warranty claim for the Gorilla Glass. I dropped it off because they told me they needed it for a few days. I figured it was a good time to do so because my 14 year old son had a hockey tournament in Lake Placid, NY. They called me at 12:30 pm to tell me they are just taking a look at the car. Said theyd take care of everything, but "I don't understand what you mean by file a warranty claim with Gorilla Glass. You have to go through your insurance company for that." So I'll have to try to get that resolved somewhere else. Anyway, they called back late in the afternoon and said it was ready. So I got it back with everything taken care of as well as a new rear flip up glass window.

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Sounds to me like your Jeep would qualify for the Lemon Law program.

jmonroe

Chrysler still owns Jeep right?

stickguy

explorerx4 said:

The one they are looking at(TI) has the 4 cyl.
Can get 0% for 48 months or .9% for 60 months.

If Ford is offering that up again in May/June on the Maverick I might take them up on it again. Though I was planning to just pay cash instead.

stickguy

kyfdx said:

au1994 said:

stickguy said:

dealer by me seemed to have a decent supply on the lot of escapes and Bronco sports back in January when I got my oil changed (which in retrospect, I should not have bothered to do!)

I don't think I could convince myself to get the 3 pot engine. I would spend the extra and stick with the 2.0t. That was nice in my Maverick.

I think the Bronco Sport is nice looking, but like yourself, I can’t bring myself to do a 3 banger. My mind just screams Geo Metro!!!

Isn't the new Corolla GR a turbo 3? 300 hp

it does, but I would make an exception for that.

My son texted recently that he saw one in person. Seems like a cool car but way to expensive for what I could do with it.

oldfarmer50

andres3 said:

jmonroe1 said:

nyccarguy said:

I forgot to mention this, but last Wednesday night I dropped my Jeep off at the dealership to have them take care of the recall, the service bulletin, oil change, tire rotation, the electrical connection that unsoldered itself so the rear defroster doesn't function, and to have them put in a warranty claim for the Gorilla Glass. I dropped it off because they told me they needed it for a few days. I figured it was a good time to do so because my 14 year old son had a hockey tournament in Lake Placid, NY. They called me at 12:30 pm to tell me they are just taking a look at the car. Said theyd take care of everything, but "I don't understand what you mean by file a warranty claim with Gorilla Glass. You have to go through your insurance company for that." So I'll have to try to get that resolved somewhere else. Anyway, they called back late in the afternoon and said it was ready. So I got it back with everything taken care of as well as a new rear flip up glass window.

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Sounds to me like your Jeep would qualify for the Lemon Law program.

jmonroe

Chrysler still owns Jeep right?

Yeah but who owns Chrysler? Stellantis?

Michaell

oldfarmer50 said:

andres3 said:

jmonroe1 said:

nyccarguy said:

I forgot to mention this, but last Wednesday night I dropped my Jeep off at the dealership to have them take care of the recall, the service bulletin, oil change, tire rotation, the electrical connection that unsoldered itself so the rear defroster doesn't function, and to have them put in a warranty claim for the Gorilla Glass. I dropped it off because they told me they needed it for a few days. I figured it was a good time to do so because my 14 year old son had a hockey tournament in Lake Placid, NY. They called me at 12:30 pm to tell me they are just taking a look at the car. Said theyd take care of everything, but "I don't understand what you mean by file a warranty claim with Gorilla Glass. You have to go through your insurance company for that." So I'll have to try to get that resolved somewhere else. Anyway, they called back late in the afternoon and said it was ready. So I got it back with everything taken care of as well as a new rear flip up glass window.

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Sounds to me like your Jeep would qualify for the Lemon Law program.

jmonroe

Chrysler still owns Jeep right?

Yeah but who owns Chrysler? Stellantis?

Yes; includes the following brands:

Abarth
Alfa Romeo
Chrylser
Citroen
Dodge
DS Automobiles
Fiat
Jeep
Lancia
Maserati
Opel
Peugeot
Ram
Vauxhall

jmonroe1

andres3 said:

jmonroe1 said:

nyccarguy said:

I forgot to mention this, but last Wednesday night I dropped my Jeep off at the dealership to have them take care of the recall, the service bulletin, oil change, tire rotation, the electrical connection that unsoldered itself so the rear defroster doesn't function, and to have them put in a warranty claim for the Gorilla Glass. I dropped it off because they told me they needed it for a few days. I figured it was a good time to do so because my 14 year old son had a hockey tournament in Lake Placid, NY. They called me at 12:30 pm to tell me they are just taking a look at the car. Said theyd take care of everything, but "I don't understand what you mean by file a warranty claim with Gorilla Glass. You have to go through your insurance company for that." So I'll have to try to get that resolved somewhere else. Anyway, they called back late in the afternoon and said it was ready. So I got it back with everything taken care of as well as a new rear flip up glass window.

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Sounds to me like your Jeep would qualify for the Lemon Law program.

jmonroe

Chrysler still owns Jeep right?

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As far as I know they do. It’s a downright abomination to the laws of car manufacturing what they did to the Jeep name.

jmonroe

explorerx4

It's a top of the line Titanium model(has 2.0) and papers are supposedly being signed.
They tried to knock 3K off the trade for a damaged rear bumper cover and a fender scrape.
Son in law called me to ask if I thought the repair # was too high.
I told him it was. Then I looked up and texted him the price for the factory bumper cover, $580.

au1994

“Then I looked up and texted him the price for the factory bumper cover, $580“

Games people play…or rather car dealers…

tjc78

@Michaell said:
Yes; includes the following brands:

Abarth
Alfa Romeo
Chrylser
Citroen
Dodge
DS Automobiles
Fiat
Jeep
Lancia
Maserati
Opel
Peugeot
Ram
Vauxhall

Speaking of Dodge… has anyone seen a Hornet in the wild yet?

explorerx4

Stopped over for a visit.

xwesx

The apple didn't fall far from that tree!

Michaell

That's a sharp looking unit. Congrats to the happy new owners.

nyccarguy

The Escape is a nice looking SUV. I’ll echo some of the others’ comments that I am a fan of the Bronco Sport Styling.

roadburner

@explorerx4 said:
It's a top of the line Titanium model(has 2.0) and papers are supposedly being signed.
They tried to knock 3K off the trade for a damaged rear bumper cover and a fender scrape.
Son in law called me to ask if I thought the repair # was too high.
I told him it was. Then I looked up and texted him the price for the factory bumper cover, $580.

In 2015 I was looking at a CPO Mustang GT at Andy Mohr Ford outside Indy. The UCM valued my trade at 75% of auction price due to “scratches on the rear bumper.” The “scratches” were In actually strings of chewing gum that had been been thrown up by the rear wheels. We walked. Later that day the lady in charge of internet sales emailed me wanting to accept my initial offer and offering to deliver the car to my house. I told her that once someone tries to screw me it’s Game Over.

stickguy

the Sport does give you more useful space in the cargo area. being a big square box.

jmonroe1

tjc78 said:

@Michaell said:

Yes; includes the following brands:

Abarth

Alfa Romeo

Chrylser

Citroen

Dodge

DS Automobiles

Fiat

Jeep

Lancia

Maserati

Opel

Peugeot

Ram

Vauxhall

Speaking of Dodge… has anyone seen a Hornet in the wild yet?

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Well, if this Summer is anything like last Summer there will be a few Hornets flying around wildly in my back yard. Want a pic to prove that?

jmonroe

roadburner

Meanwhile, in Chronic Model Car Buyers news, I now have 105 model cars on display in my office- and two more cars are incoming.

corvette

That sounds like a much less spendy habit than 1:1 scale model car collecting, or even watch collecting.

jmonroe1

corvette said:

That sounds like a much less spendy habit than 1:1 scale model car collecting, or even watch collecting.

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If those were real cars I can only imagine how much noise they’d make sitting at a starting line somewhere.

jmonroe

explorerx4

Escape has more 2nd row room than the Bronco Sport because the 2nd row seat can slide back.
My son in law could not fit a car seat in the 2nd row of a Bronco Sport with the front seat where he needed it to be.

breld

Well…speaking of Fords. It would seem our current Bronco order will likely slip into 2024 and thus not be a Heritage Edition, so I decided to do a similar search like last year. Wouldn’t you know it, found another dealer in the midwest with a unit in inventory happy to sell at sticker…

stickguy

I thought you already did the Bronco thing? why another one? other than the obvious "why not" reason.

Michaell

stickguy said:

I thought you already did the Bronco thing? why another one? other than the obvious "why not" reason.

Door count. And, this one has the 2.7T V6.

Michaell

Michaell said:

stickguy said:

I thought you already did the Bronco thing? why another one? other than the obvious "why not" reason.

Door count. And, this one has the 2.7T V6.

And, the empty spot in the garage was crying out to be filled....

stickguy

I filled my empty spot with a Cub Cadet!

I do like the 2 door Bronco though. 4 door is too big and doesn't look right.

breld

stickguy said:

I thought you already did the Bronco thing? why another one? other than the obvious "why not" reason.

My wife was surprisingly attached to her Bronco and when we traded it, it was with the knowledge that we had another one on order. So it was at least in the cards to get another one at some point.

We do like the 2 door proportions. We wanted the hardtop (which comes standard on the 2 door). And we were missing the “mid package” on the first one, which comes with niceties such as keyless access, heated seats, BLIS, etc. This one has that and the V6 is a bonus.

corvette

Congrats, that looks good! I guess I'm old school, but I'd have to go for the iconic solid white paint color on any two door Bronco.

xwesx

All the cool kids around here have a Bronco now. I see three of them in the parking lot outside of my building nearly every day.

tifighter

I do think the 2 door Bronco is about 300% better looking than the 4 door. The proportions are much better. And like @jpp75 , I feel the same way about the Defender. Extra passengers can take an Uber.

tjc78

Congrats Breld. Love it.

sb55

It's a long story, but the Silverado had an 2-1/2 month and many trip to the dealer for an electrical problem caused by a mechanic. It was to the point where I didn't trust it. So, put me in for a punch. I traded my 2017 Silverado for a barely used 2022 Ram 2500. It's my first ever Chrysler (Stellantis) vehicle, but I have 4 more years of factory warranty so will give it a go. Now I have to learn how to use all of the tech. The 12" Uconnect screen is bigger than my first B&W TV!

stickguy

Congrats. That thing got a Hemi I assume?

qbrozen

@jmonroe1 said:
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As far as I know they do. It’s a downright abomination to the laws of car manufacturing what they did to the Jeep name.

jmonroe

Inquiring minds want to know: what do you think they did to Jeep that was so bad? Save them from going down with the AMC ship?