Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

qbrozen

corvette said:

@qbrozen - might be tough to find, but I always thought the Isuzu Axium looked premium and upscale. You could also look for a VehiCROSS if you wanted something more expressive. Not sure about the towing capability of either.

I actually found an Axiom last night. I'll have to see if I can dig it up again. I know the seller said something like "you don't know what this is."

qbrozen

Oh, here it is. I passed it by because it is RWD.
https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicle/698211814

Dealer with the Rodeo has not responded to me. I used their website for an inquiry. I received an email saying "call or text us at ..." So I texted over an hour ago. Nothing.

xwesx

Huh. The Axiom might actually be a decent car for that money!

And, I don't want to throw too much shade at the Envoy, but I've ridden in a couple of them from that era (when they were MUCH newer than this one is now), and they are just horrific rattle traps. If this one rattles like those did, it would drive me crazy.

jmonroe1

xwesx said:

Huh. The Axiom might actually be a decent car for that money!

And, I don't want to throw too much shade at the Envoy, but I've ridden in a couple of them from that era (when they were MUCH newer than this one is now), and they are just horrific rattle traps. If this one rattles like those did, it would drive me crazy.

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Maybe he can sell it before anyone notices it’s a no-snooze model.

jmonroe

stickguy

that axiom does look like a nice car for the money. If you want something like that.

corvette

Axiom looks good for the price. From the photos, the rear bumper could use a respray. Hood appears to have a dent on the left side leading edge. I like the mustardy tan interior, and it looks like a low spec model, as you wish. Also, a matching set of tires, which is rare in that price range.

ab348

I had never seen an Axiom before. I don’t think they were sold in Canada.

The Wiki page for the Axiom blames its poor sales performance for Isuzu withdrawing from manufacturing in the US and its eventual disappearance from the US market. It also notes that the Axiom was later recalled for severe frame rust issues.

qbrozen

hmmm... interesting one.

2011 Sierra 1500 4x4 SLE 5.3 w/125k miles.
No bad lights on dash. Filthy interior. The report states rust in several places, but the pics don't fully agree. I mean, I see it has some, and most definitely the tailgate is rusted. But the rockers look serviceable and the frame looks great. Yes, I can see they threw some undercoat on it, but I don't see flaking under the finish, and given the condition of the other components, it seems like it would be pretty solid.

I think I could get it for less than $6k. Manheim shows units with these miles are more like $10k.

Any thoughts?

tjc78

For 6k you could clean it up, drive it a year and still make a few bucks.

5.3 in that era is pretty solid too.

I’d make a play on it.

nyccarguy

Does that year have the active fuel management?

The Car Wizard specifically recommends against any Chevy/GMC 1500 after 2007.

qbrozen

nyccarguy said:

Does that year have the active fuel management?

The Car Wizard specifically recommends against any Chevy/GMC 1500 after 2007.

Car Wizard recommends against many vehicles that people have driven hundreds of thousands of miles without problems. He is a wuss. lol.

I had to do some digging, but, yes, this has AFM. Like my Charger, it is easily disabled with a tune. Worst case, you can buy a kit that replaces all the affected components for $500.

stickguy

Frame looks fantastic for a NE truck

nyccarguy

@qbrozen - I was checking out GXs on your behalf yesterday. Good god are they expensive no matter what the year or mileage!

28firefighter

@qbrozen said:
hmmm... interesting one.

2011 Sierra 1500 4x4 SLE 5.3 w/125k miles.
No bad lights on dash. Filthy interior. The report states rust in several places, but the pics don't fully agree. I mean, I see it has some, and most definitely the tailgate is rusted. But the rockers look serviceable and the frame looks great. Yes, I can see they threw some undercoat on it, but I don't see flaking under the finish, and given the condition of the other components, it seems like it would be pretty solid.

I think I could get it for less than $6k. Manheim shows units with these miles are more like $10k.

Any thoughts?

Buy at 6k. Clean it up, paint the rockers, etc.

qbrozen

Got it. $5898 delivered.

qbrozen

And, yes, title is already present on this one!

tjc78

Smart buy! Congrats

corvette

Are those fender flares screwed into the sheet metal? There might be rust under them. The rest of it (other than the tailgate) looks solid, though. That's a great deal for a full size 4WD truck.

nyccarguy

qbrozen said:

And, yes, title is already present on this one!

2 keys?
Original Engine?

qbrozen

Clean history

Doubt it has 2 keys. That’s almost unheard of at auction.

oldfarmer50

qbrozen said:

nyccarguy said:

qbrozen said:

nyccarguy said:

@qbrozen - Listing says it is a 5-Speed Manual, it isn't. Pics show it parked in front of an Autozone which can't be a good thing. 2007 Saab 9-5 Wagon

hmmm... I have a feeling you aren't seeing the right thing. Should be a 2008 Envoy. Definitely says 4-spd auto and it definitely is NOT in front of an autozone.

I posted a different listing for you to look at

OH. I thought you were commenting on mine and then posting an alternative.

The Saab is cool but can't tow worth a damn.

You call that Envoy crusty? And you live in NY? Damn, I consider that super clean. Like surprisingly so. You should see the stuff at auction!

In upstate NY the undercarriage wouldn’t look that good new.

nyccarguy

qbrozen said:

Clean history

Doubt it has 2 keys. That’s almost unheard of at auction.

Well done and a good buy! I think it will serve you better than the TrailBlazer you posted. I can't wait to see when you get it and your journey to make it yours!

oldfarmer50

qbrozen said:

hmmm... interesting one.

2011 Sierra 1500 4x4 SLE 5.3 w/125k miles.
No bad lights on dash. Filthy interior. The report states rust in several places, but the pics don't fully agree. I mean, I see it has some, and most definitely the tailgate is rusted. But the rockers look serviceable and the frame looks great. Yes, I can see they threw some undercoat on it, but I don't see flaking under the finish, and given the condition of the other components, it seems like it would be pretty solid.

I think I could get it for less than $6k. Manheim shows units with these miles are more like $10k.

Any thoughts?

Sometimes they throw paint on the frame to cover up the bondo patches.

au1994

Needs meatier tires but otherwise, given your mechanical ability, I don’t see a dang thing wrong for sub-$6k.

Thats like $3k back in the olden times. You know, 2020.

stickguy

I would be tempted to get one like that for winter beater/truck duty, and cash out the Maverick.

ab348

corvette said:

Are those fender flares screwed into the sheet metal? There might be rust under them.

A good reason not to touch them and leave them there.

ab348

qbrozen said:

nyccarguy said:

Does that year have the active fuel management?

The Car Wizard specifically recommends against any Chevy/GMC 1500 after 2007.

Car Wizard recommends against many vehicles that people have driven hundreds of thousands of miles without problems. He is a wuss. lol.

Agreed. His ship has sailed for me.

stickguy

I believe someone who has seen a ton of them with problems. And he does it from the standpoint of people that are taking their car to a mechanic and paying to have everything done.

sb55

corvette said:

Are those fender flares screwed into the sheet metal? There might be rust under them. The rest of it (other than the tailgate) looks solid, though. That's a great deal for a full size 4WD truck.

I see a lot of those up here in VT, as VT will not pass inspection with rust perforation. The fender flares will cover the rust so that it will pass.

ab348

stickguy said:

I believe someone who has seen a ton of them with problems. And he does it from the standpoint of people that are taking their car to a mechanic and paying to have everything done.

I assume you are referring to the Wizard? He does it from the standpoint of making videos that need eyeballs. Plus he is in league with that master documentarian, Hoovie, who makes videos that have very little credibility. Nobody could have as many surprises and ill fortune as that guy. The Wizard ranting about plastic parts reminds me of this ancient meme:

au1994

When does the (Run)GMC arrive?

qbrozen

No idea. I haven’t gotten word that a driver has been assigned yet.

But their habit had been to surprise me. They’ll call the day of arrival.

jmonroe1

sb55 said:

corvette said:

Are those fender flares screwed into the sheet metal? There might be rust under them. The rest of it (other than the tailgate) looks solid, though. That's a great deal for a full size 4WD truck.

I see a lot of those up here in VT, as VT will not pass inspection with rust perforation. The fender flares will cover the rust so that it will pass.

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I swear I’ve seen the same model vehicle with different sizes of these thingies, so they must be offered in small, medium and large. Even if I’m wrong about this it supports the belief of, “out of sight…out of mind”.

jmonroe

greg128

JD Power 2024 dependability study of 3 year old (2021) vehicles ranking by brand

qbrozen

I’m not gonna bust out the ruler but does anybody else think they made that final 35-pt jump to Chrysler appear larger than, let’s say, 135 to 170?

Also, I did the math and found the average of what is shown to be 207, not the 190 noted. What’s up with that?

explorerx4

The average might be taking sales volume into account but that doesn't work out because most of the volume sellers are above the average.

explorerx4

Interesting video series. This one starts with the 'after' vehicle and then shows the 'before'.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oyu0zhcYl5I

breld

Ended up getting a Mustang after all this fine holiday weekend. Had to put a little work into it but kept me busy in an otherwise slow weekend. ..

Probably doesn’t count as a punch 😀

breld

roadburner

The new Lego BMW M4 and Mercedes-AMG are being released on 3/1. Can't wait!

au1994

Mustang looks great!

Jr and I made the Lego McClaren a couple of years ago. It was surprisingly intricate.

oldfarmer50

greg128 said:

JD Power 2024 dependability study of 3 year old (2021) vehicles ranking by brand

What happened to Honda, they’re way down.

tjc78

@breld I like that one.

I’m 2/3 of the way with my Titanic. Can’t wait until it’s done.

My son is getting the BTTF DeLorean for his birtbday in March. I’m sure he will enjoy that build.

tifighter

I think the M2C needs a new home.

Since our son arrived in July, I think I’ve maybe put 200 miles on it. And I don’t see that changing anytime soon. Right now I daily the MDX-S, and it does the job it’s designed to do well. But 5 days out of 7, it’s just me and the baby, going to daycare, or me to the office. So the 3 row SUV is overkill, and parking it at the garage near the office isn’t fun. Anyhow, a more practical fun car that can accommodate a car seat, thus getting more use than the M2C is my thought. I know I’ll miss it, but it’s hard to justify it when it just sits there. Am I crazy? Do I just have CCBA coming in? Why are you all nodding?

au1994

tifighter said:

I think the M2C needs a new home.

Since our son arrived in July, I think I’ve maybe put 200 miles on it. And I don’t see that changing anytime soon. Right now I daily the MDX-S, and it does the job it’s designed to do well. But 5 days out of 7, it’s just me and the baby, going to daycare, or me to the office. So the 3 row SUV is overkill, and parking it at the garage near the office isn’t fun. Anyhow, a more practical fun car that can accommodate a car seat, thus getting more use than the M2C is my thought. I know I’ll miss it, but it’s hard to justify it when it just sits there. Am I crazy? Do I just have CCBA coming in? Why are you all nodding?

M Sedan?

qbrozen

@tjc78 said:
@breld I like that one.

I’m 2/3 of the way with my Titanic. Can’t wait until it’s done.

Hate to be the one to break it to you, but you are just wasting your time. The ship is doomed.

corvette

That reminds me of one of my computer science professors in undergrad, a very serious German lady. We were programming Lego robots, and she asked the class generally how it was going. I told her there was a problem in that they didn’t float. “Wait, corvette, what? Did you get water in the robot?!?”

corvette

Purged the Volt of the old fuel and gave it a tank of premium Shell to try to clean the fuel injectors (it’s supposed to have a lot of detergents). Of note, it seems to have a gas cruising range of around 300 miles, and the “fuel remaining” range just says “low” once you’re down to about 25 miles remaining. My favorite hiking spot was made a bit more enchanting by a dusting of snow:

tjc78

@qbrozen said:

@tjc78 said:
@breld I like that one.

I’m 2/3 of the way with my Titanic. Can’t wait until it’s done.

Hate to be the one to break it to you, but you are just wasting your time. The ship is doomed.

Sinks every time!

laurasdada

greg128 said:

JD Power 2024 dependability study of 3 year old (2021) vehicles ranking by brand

Wow, Lotus at the top of the list! Oh, wait.....Lexus. Never mind.

And speaking of the other end of the list, my Audi warranty is through 3/25, we'll see if I'm a gambler. Worked for the '13 Jag XF, 3.25 years out of warranty with no issues.
If not, perhaps a punch in '25!