Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

Sandman6472

Decided to go with 50% tint this time around as I didn't want it to be too dark like I had but wanted to keep the interior a bit cooler. Used the same guy who took the old stuff off & glad I took a few weeks to try to live without it. The heat is particularly intense this summer so decided to just get it done. Earlier today, found the receipt from 2015 tinting for both vehicles on the refrigerator, not sure why I put it there. But the price was $150 for each vehicle which I'm guessing wasn't that bad since I paid $170 this time around. And the tint isn't that dark really which is just what I wanted. So am very pleased that I got rid of the old dark tint for this new stuff.

P.S. The tint is light enough where I can read the word "Trukfit" on the hat in the second picture. Have noticed that many vehicles have the darker tint down here but like what I got, so all is good.

Sandman6472

Looking like we'll be getting some rainy/windy weather come the beginning of next week. That disturbance seems to be traveling in a more west/northwest direction right now and could very well go over Cuba before it hits the gulf. So, we're basically in a wait and see position right now as the local weather is just showing rain for Monday, Tuesday & Wednesday at the present time. Living in the tropics always has the threat of hurricanes 6 months each year and I sure wish we would move a bit north to be honest. After so many years here, 55 this October, a change of scenery would do me the world of good!

stickguy

good thing I got the Acura in for state inspection this morning. Now that is out of the way for 13 months!

corvette

Looks like Ford put up a webpage showcasing the refreshed 2025 Maverick's features. AWD now available on the hybrid, and it looks like they've gone back to making the hybrid the standard powertrain, with the 2.0T available as an option. 4,000 pound towing capacity now available on the hybrid. Unsurprisingly, the small infotainment screen and the (relatively useless) storage bin adjacent to it are axed in favor of a larger infotainment screen. Based on the picture, I'm going to wager it's not easily retrofittable to 2022-24 Mavericks, as it looks like the dash trim has changed, as well. Available 360 degree camera and trailer hitch assist.

Horsepower and torque both down on the 2.0T models... Why? Unless they are deliberately under-rating it, that alone would make me not consider replacing my 2022 with a 2025 model.

Mine goes in for its second oil change tomorrow.

oldfarmer50

Sandman6472 said:

Decided to go with 50% tint this time around as I didn't want it to be too dark like I had but wanted to keep the interior a bit cooler. Used the same guy who took the old stuff off & glad I took a few weeks to try to live without it. The heat is particularly intense this summer so decided to just get it done. Earlier today, found the receipt from 2015 tinting for both vehicles on the refrigerator, not sure why I put it there. But the price was $150 for each vehicle which I'm guessing wasn't that bad since I paid $170 this time around. And the tint isn't that dark really which is just what I wanted. So am very pleased that I got rid of the old dark tint for this new stuff.

P.S. The tint is light enough where I can read the word "Trukfit" on the hat in the second picture. Have noticed that many vehicles have the darker tint down here but like what I got, so all is good.

Don’t visit NY. 30% is the legal limit. I drove a car the other day that must have come up from down south because the windows were virtually black. I was waiting for the po po to pull me over.

stickguy

you really don't need it up here. I don't like tint any darker than what comes on the back windows of a minivan or SUV, which is subtle. And really dislike (it's a personal thing) vinyl cling stuff. But Sandy's doesn't look bad at all.

Man, that garage is tiny. I spent way too much money getting an oversized one that just happens to have a house attached to it. At least the appraisal we just got for the HELOC came out to about 10% more than we will have in it once all the projects are done.

tjc78

My garage is a generous size… but if I had the house built to my specs it would be 5’ deeper at least

sda

corvette said:

Looks like Ford put up a webpage showcasing the refreshed 2025 Maverick's features. AWD now available on the hybrid, and it looks like they've gone back to making the hybrid the standard powertrain, with the 2.0T available as an option. 4,000 pound towing capacity now available on the hybrid. Unsurprisingly, the small infotainment screen and the (relatively useless) storage bin adjacent to it are axed in favor of a larger infotainment screen. Based on the picture, I'm going to wager it's not easily retrofittable to 2022-24 Mavericks, as it looks like the dash trim has changed, as well. Available 360 degree camera and trailer hitch assist.

Horsepower and torque both down on the 2.0T models... Why? Unless they are deliberately under-rating it, that alone would make me not consider replacing my 2022 with a 2025 model.

Mine goes in for its second oil change tomorrow.

And a huge price difference since you bought yours.

explorerx4

Peak torque is only down 2 ft/lbs(at same rpm).

corvette

sda said:

And a huge price difference since you bought yours.

Next month, I'll owe under $10k on it. And I think it's still worth close to $20k on trade, which isn't much less than I paid for it. MSRP inflation has really kept the values up on the older ones.

explorerx4 said:

Peak torque is only down 2 ft/lbs(at same rpm).

I think a MT article suggested that performance wouldn't be different, but I'll believe that when I see some instrumented testing. It'll also be interesting to see performance numbers on the AWD hybrid.

stickguy

an AWD hybrid with 4K towing would be perfect. Zero reason to get the Ecoboost at that point.

Sandman6472

Yep, garages down here are a bit small unless one goes for a three-car one. Since our house was a spec house, it was take what we got or...don't. Never really gave it a second thought and I always drove a smaller vehicle anyways. Our family vehicle was a '85 Olds Cutlass Supreme when we bought so it fit nicely on the left side. We did bring home an Olds 88 and it was just to darn big for even the left size, so the Cutlass was the next logical choice. ANd that was her last big vehicle.

nyccarguy

@tjc78 said:
My garage is a generous size… but if I had the house built to my specs it would be 5’ deeper at least

My garage (like the rest of my house) is not big enough. If I had no bikes, shelving, or a snow blower, it would be just wide enough for 2 cars. My staircase from the kitchen sticks out too much as well.

tjc78

@nyccarguy said:

@tjc78 said:
My garage is a generous size… but if I had the house built to my specs it would be 5’ deeper at least

My garage (like the rest of my house) is not big enough. If I had no bikes, shelving, or a snow blower, it would be just wide enough for 2 cars. My staircase from the kitchen sticks out too much as well.

Before I got the truck I was able to get a nice size workbench, mower and related, beer fridge and an XC90/S60 with no effort.

Problem now is the truck won’t fit with the workbench.. and to make matters worse the high shelving I have running down that side is more than high enough for an SUV but not a lifted pickup (can’t open the door)

So… when we get home for the fall I’m going re-do the entire garage to get the truck in and maintain as much storage as possible. The work bench will have to go though. I don’t really use it anyway and it collects junk

jmonroe1

tjc78 said:

@nyccarguy said:

@tjc78 said:

My garage is a generous size… but if I had the house built to my specs it would be 5’ deeper at least

My garage (like the rest of my house) is not big enough. If I had no bikes, shelving, or a snow blower, it would be just wide enough for 2 cars. My staircase from the kitchen sticks out too much as well.

Before I got the truck I was able to get a nice size workbench, mower and related, beer fridge and an XC90/S60 with no effort.

Problem now is the truck won’t fit with the workbench.. and to make matters worse the high shelving I have running down that side is more than high enough for an SUV but not a lifted pickup (can’t open the door)

So… when we get home for the fall I’m going re-do the entire garage to get the truck in and maintain as much storage as possible. The work bench will have to go though. I don’t really use it anyway and it collects junk

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There is NO WAY I could give up my tool bench. While I don’t use it like I used to I need it so when I want it I have it. It’s along the back wall and is 16 feet wide by 2 feet deep. That’s the size I’ve had in every house I’ve owned. I wouldn’t know what to do without it. Oh, and I have an 8 foot by 2 foot roll about work table with drawers that I build and that thing ain’t going anywhere either. You could say they’re as important to me as the kitchen is to Mrs. j.

jmonroe

roadburner

The 4xe goes in for an oil change and the defroster recall next Tuesday. It's been running great with no issues.

stickguy

I think my workbench is 4’ long. At least the one I just bought is. Old one could be 5’. Definitely need one for the basement but I always wanted one for the garage. Once I get the shed up garage will seem empty. Right now the workbench, a cabinet, 4 shelves, all the yard tools including beast of a snow blower and a mower, and assorted other crap is all out there but both cars fit with room to spare. Very happy about that!

stickguy

My dealer sent an email with the 2025 maverick build it site and an offer that they will take orders at invoice still. I built out a lariat (only come loaded up) with the AWD option and 4k tow (and moon roof). Pretty much everything except for the coach appearance trim package.

All in, sticker was about $40,200. Getting up there. Last I saw carvana I think they would give me $30k for mine. Maybe 28. But e en if dealer offered up 30k I would still need to come up with about 12 grand to trade up. Not really worth it right now.

tjc78

@jmonroe1 said:
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There is NO WAY I could give up my tool bench. While I don’t use it like I used to I need it so when I want it I have it. It’s along the back wall and is 16 feet wide by 2 feet deep. That’s the size I’ve had in every house I’ve owned. I wouldn’t know what to do without it. Oh, and I have an 8 foot by 2 foot roll about work table with drawers that I build and that thing ain’t going anywhere either. You could say they’re as important to me as the kitchen is to Mrs. j.

jmonroe

There was a time I would have 100% agreed with you. Bottom line is I don’t do much work in my house these days nor work on my cars so it’s just not a need.

andres3

mjfloyd1 said:

Why is the x3m40 already for sale?

Everything's for sale in CCBA for the right price right.

stickguy

I’ll sell anything I own for the right offer. House, cars, furniture. Make an offer.

jmonroe1

andres3 said:

mjfloyd1 said:

Why is the x3m40 already for sale?

Everything's for sale in CCBA for the right price right.

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Now you sound like a grubby capitalist. Whatever happened to the lovable guy who liked speedy cars?

jmonroe

jmonroe1

stickguy said:

I’ll sell anything I own for the right offer. House, cars, furniture. Make an offer.

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Another one. You must be related to @andres3.

jmonroe

corvette

Tried a different dealer[1] to have the Maverick's oil changed. They couldn't do the recall work because supposedly one of the updates takes three hours, and I had a late afternoon appointment. They upcharged me for full synthetic oil even though Ford specs synthetic blend for that engine, and as soon as I drove off, the CEL lit up. I got it home and hooked up the code scanner, which showed an intake air temperature sensor error. Opened the hood and realized they hadn't reconnected that sensor after checking my engine air filter. I give them about a 3 out of 10--at least they remembered to put oil in it. Thankfully, with two Ford plants in town, there are a plethora of dealers to choose from.

[1] James Collins Downtown Ford, since I know @roadburner will ask.

oldfarmer50

tjc78 said:

@nyccarguy said:

@tjc78 said:

My garage is a generous size… but if I had the house built to my specs it would be 5’ deeper at least

My garage (like the rest of my house) is not big enough. If I had no bikes, shelving, or a snow blower, it would be just wide enough for 2 cars. My staircase from the kitchen sticks out too much as well.

Before I got the truck I was able to get a nice size workbench, mower and related, beer fridge and an XC90/S60 with no effort.

Problem now is the truck won’t fit with the workbench.. and to make matters worse the high shelving I have running down that side is more than high enough for an SUV but not a lifted pickup (can’t open the door)

So… when we get home for the fall I’m going re-do the entire garage to get the truck in and maintain as much storage as possible. The work bench will have to go though. I don’t really use it anyway and it collects junk

You could always do what I did, build a barn for the second car.🚗

jmonroe1

corvette said:

Tried a different dealer[1] to have the Maverick's oil changed. They couldn't do the recall work because supposedly one of the updates takes three hours, and I had a late afternoon appointment. They upcharged me for full synthetic oil even though Ford specs synthetic blend for that engine, and as soon as I drove off, the CEL lit up. I got it home and hooked up the code scanner, which showed an intake air temperature sensor error. Opened the hood and realized they hadn't reconnected that sensor after checking my engine air filter. I give them about a 3 out of 10--at least they remembered to put oil in it. Thankfully, with two Ford plants in town, there are a plethora of dealers to choose from.

[1] James Collins Downtown Ford, since I know @roadburner will ask.

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You should have checked the oil before you left the dealers lot. I’ll bet you do that the next time if you go back to that dealer.

I’m sure I told this story before:

About maybe 5 years ago I took the Genny to the dealer to have an oil changed. I waited in the waiting area, it didn’t take too long for the SA to come tell me my car was ready. I paid them and they pointed to where they parked my car in their driveway . When I got to my car I opened the hood and before i had a chance to pull the dip stick the SA comes running out to see if there was a problem. I told him I was going to check the oil level, he said somethings like, “do you think we didn’t fill it up”? I just said, “I’m paranoid, I always check when I get an oil change. I even check lug nuts after a state inspection”. He gave me a weird look, said, “REALLY”?, shrugged his shoulders and went back inside. So far I’ve never left a lot before I check the easy stuff.

jmonroe

Michaell

@fintail - please come to the white courtesy telephone

tifighter

@jmonroe1 said:
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Now you sound like a grubby capitalist. Whatever happened to the lovable guy who liked speedy cars?

jmonroe

Seems like stickguy needs a, well, car with a stick.

ronsteve

corvette said:

Looks like Ford put up a webpage showcasing the refreshed 2025 Maverick's features.

Horsepower and torque both down on the 2.0T models... Why? Unless they are deliberately under-rating it, that alone would make me not consider replacing my 2022 with a 2025 model.

I wonder if they decided to base their official power numbers on regular fuel rather than premium?

sda

stickguy said:

My dealer sent an email with the 2025 maverick build it site and an offer that they will take orders at invoice still. I built out a lariat (only come loaded up) with the AWD option and 4k tow (and moon roof). Pretty much everything except for the coach appearance trim package.

All in, sticker was about $40,200. Getting up there. Last I saw carvana I think they would give me $30k for mine. Maybe 28. But e en if dealer offered up 30k I would still need to come up with about 12 grand to trade up. Not really worth it right now.

How much was yours originally? IIRC when they first came out a fully optioned Maverick was under $35k.

stickguy

I think the sticker on my current 2023 was about 35k. But it’s FWD and I didn’t get the co pilot plus package (ACC). Not sure since I paid below invoice and had private offers on top of it.

The 2022 Ecoboost lariat without luxury (also FWD) was maybe 30?

I have both stickers someplace. I’ll look later

ab348

tifighter said:

Seems like stickguy needs a, well, car with a stick.

Not so fast. It''s been so long since he's had one that he would need a few months of physical therapy to build up that left leg.

corvette

@ronsteve said:
I wonder if they decided to base their official power numbers on regular fuel rather than premium?

I thought about that, as well, but that would be a larger difference (about 10% IIRC). Ford’s specs say they used premium for the test.

stickguy

ab348 said:

tifighter said:

Seems like stickguy needs a, well, car with a stick.

Not so fast. It''s been so long since he's had one that he would need a few months of physical therapy to build up that left leg.

the left leg is the good one. Well rested after all these years driving a slushbox.

Sandman6472

Looks like the storm will pass south of us before it moves into the gulf. Though it does call for maybe 100% rain these next few days. Rain we can handle even though data shows we're above the normal amount for the year. Just not in the mood for a full blown hurricane right now and if I never see another one in my lifetime, I'll be better off!

mjfloyd1

https://www.carvana.com/vehicle/3197943

sda

mjfloyd1 said:

https://www.carvana.com/vehicle/3197943

It is pretty..achtung!

28firefighter

Caveat emptor…

ab348

28firefighter said:

Caveat emptor…

Or in German, Käufer aufgepasst. Seems appropriate for most Audis in my experience.

corvette

mjfloyd1 said:

https://www.carvana.com/vehicle/3197943

Did the check clear yet?

oldfarmer50

mjfloyd1 said:

https://www.carvana.com/vehicle/3197943

You wonder how many other cars are sitting at Carvana with similar surprises waiting.

corvette

My parents' 2020 Ranger is having issues shifting, which appear to be the subject of a TSB. They have an appointment next week to get it looked at. No CEL, but there may be stored codes. 44k miles, so still under the 60k powertrain warranty, but the first step of the TSB, if no codes are found, is to update software and reset the adaptation, without replacing any parts. Dad is (rightly) concerned that, if that is the ultimate "fix" for their vehicle, it may be temporary, and then the issues start recurring right after the powertrain warranty is up.

He mentioned buying a Tacoma, and I had to tell him that I just read about complaints of early transmission failures on the all-new 2024s, as well, plus the Tundra engine failures we've talked about here.

explorerx4

Here's a link to Granger Motors extended powertrain warranty. They supposedly have good prices on extended service plans.
Might be worth it to spend a few hundred bucks ranther than buy a new truck.
https://grangerfordextendedwarranty.com/powertrain.html

mjfloyd1

28firefighter said:

Caveat emptor…

Carfax doesn’t even show the 10 weeks in the shop and replaced cameras and wiring

mjfloyd1

corvette said:

mjfloyd1 said:

https://www.carvana.com/vehicle/3197943

Did the check clear yet?

I never said that it was my old car 😎

corvette

explorerx4 said:

Here's a link to Granger Motors extended powertrain warranty. They supposedly have good prices on extended service plans.
Might be worth it to spend a few hundred bucks ranther than buy a new truck.
https://grangerfordextendedwarranty.com/powertrain.html

Interesting, I'll look into that. Looks like they can purchase a comprehensive bumper to bumper for up to six years/75k miles despite being out of warranty. I think that would also cover the climate control blend door issue, if it were to occur, which is also a common problem on those and is very expensive to fix because the dash has to be disassembled.

roadburner

We took my elderly uncle out to dinner last night; because the restaurant's parking is limited I drove the X1, as it's the next-to-smallest vehicle in the fleet. It occurred to me that Car and Driver considers the C43, the Wrangler, and the X1 to have uncomfortable ride quality. My wife and I beg to differ. Methinks that the road tester at C/D have an issue with undiagnosed hemorrhoids.

fintail

roadburner said:

We took my elderly uncle out to dinner last night; because the restaurant's parking is limited I drove the X1, as it's the next-to-smallest vehicle in the fleet. It occurred to me that Car and Driver considers the C43, the Wrangler, and the X1 to have uncomfortable ride quality. My wife and I beg to differ. Methinks that the road tester at C/D have an issue with undiagnosed hemorrhoids.

I've found tire and wheel choice can do a bit for these cars. C&D recently tested a MB E350 which had 21" wheels. Why? Of course those will create some ride quality issues. I recall older AMGs could be pretty firm if not flinty - my W202 C43 was that way, the E55 a lot less harsh.

fintail

Not a chronic buyer, but impulsive maybe. My friend with the CT6 PHEV, bought as a CPO car in the summer of 21, dumped it today. After the sunroof leak (maybe not entirely the fault of the car), radar cruise quirks, and emergency braking that he claims engaged on its own, he was growing tired. It also became too large for him - his ex wanted it, and when they split, he was a pushover and took the Caddy. He recently got it to a point where payoff was effectively equal to trade in value, so it's gone. Replacement - a 2024 Elantra hybrid. He seems more than pleased with it, as such cars now come with a host of nanny and assist gadgets, but there still might be a refinement gap between a car that was ~90K new (I think he paid upper 40s for it) and one that is 27K. He told me there was a $1500 incentive and 1.99% financing, although I don't know if he got both, along with a small dealer incentive.

Most interesting thing, he said the CT6 variant was so rare that the dealer had a hard time finding a value, he said Carmax had similar issues.

explorerx4

mjfloyd1 referring to the Q7.
https://youtu.be/lLR-V2S0DC8