Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,467
    I forked out the 2K for my sons first car (then traded that almost even for the Acura he still has). Technically it is still mine, but if he can make it last until next spring when he graduates college, we are just going to turn it over to him. Will be his call if he wants to keep driving that, or sell and get something new or newer. Assuming of course he lands a job!

    he says he will keep driving it for a while, but that might last until the first paycheck comes in, and he drives past a BMW dealer.

    considering we paid 2K for the Acura in December of 2008, I think I have amortized it enough to let it go.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,477
    My first car technically wasn't mine either - wasn't in my name, couldn't legally be in my name as far as I know. A 66 Galaxie wasn't terribly expensive back in 1993 however - not even worth a whole lot now. When it got hit, I didn't get the settlement either. First car I fully funded and had in my name was the fintail, didn't happen til I was 18.
  • ronsteveronsteve Member Posts: 1,234
    No pictures yet, but good miles, close to budget, and at least it would be a great winter car. And it has some personality, unlike those other appliances.

    Outback Sport... with those miles, could be damn good. Sadly, I live in the wrong part of the country, and the only Impreza seats I ever got along with were the leather ones in the WRX Limited.
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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,751
    The mazda would be OK, but the AT will make it a dog. Now, a 5 speed EX, that would be a winner.

    AT?? No, no. That's a manual.

    Problem with that DX is it seems to be missing the front and back tilt of the seat.

    Yeah, i've been keeping my eye on that outback, too, since you first pointed it out. Waiting on pics. He's certainly been taking his time with them. Problem is, it is a bit over budget (and we know he is non-negotiable). Not really willing to do that for a 10-year-old car.

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  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,038
    I chatted with a friend last night, who's up to around 231,000 miles on his '04 Crown Vic LX. It's been a pretty good car for him, and is actually holding up quite well for its age, with the exception of some HVAC issues that he was quoted about $1800 to fix.

    Well, he got the new(er) car itch, and is planning on replacing it with a 2011 Grand Marquis LS that he found at CarMax. I think it has around 31,000 miles, and they want $15,500 for it.

    Sounds like a decent deal IMO. Although I'd think that after 222,000 miles of this '04 (he bought it slightly used), and about 121,000 of a '95 Grand Marquis before that (bought used in 1999), you'd think he'd be in the mood for something different!

    Oh, here's a kick in the slats...they're only giving him $300 in trade. :sick: I was tempted to offer to buy it from him, and use it as a beater, since it would get better fuel economy than most of the cars I have, and seems like it has plenty of life left. But, he's the type of guy that would feel guilty as heck if I bought it and then something broke on it, so maybe it's for the best that I don't.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,467
    edited July 2012
    Somewhere on that a I know it said AT. Will have to go back and check.

    and yes, a DX is a penalty box. I love the seats in that vintage, at least the EX and P5 with the front and rear individual adjusters (I detest the ratchet lift they went to on the 3, and that was a big reason I did not get one of those).

    Edit: OK, I see why. Detail says (and pics confirm) stick, but I only read the title.

    USED 2002 Mazda Protege 4dr Sdn DX Auto

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,467
    Man, put that baby on Craig's for $1,999 and someone will snatch it up for a whole lot more than $300.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,467
    if you can get past the styling, this is a lot of car for the $300/mo, with nothing at lease signing. Even has 12K/year miles.

    and for $30 more, you can move up to a V6.

    http://automobiles.honda.com/current-offers-detail.aspx?ModelName=Crosstour&Offe- rID=62198&ModelID=TF1H3CJW

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  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    edited July 2012
    you'd think he'd be in the mood for something different!

    Maybe his first, uh, experience, was in one of those, and he wants nothing else now?

    Or maybe he likes the cop car factor.
  • ronsteveronsteve Member Posts: 1,234
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    They stopped making the manual, too.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,477
    Doesn't get any rarer than this, I'd wager under 10 units sold in the US with that color combo.
  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,937
    Well, we went in over lunch today to see if we could do anything with that A4 Avant, but it's basically sold (buyer is coming in this afternoon to close the deal). If it falls through, they'll call, but can't say there wasn't a little relief that we just keep what we have (for now :) )

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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,332
    edited July 2012
    It's not an EX-L. The reviews I've read indicate the Crosstour has a lot of extra sound insulation that is missing in the Accord. No way would I want something as big/heavy as the Crosstour without the V6, though.
  • jayriderjayrider Member Posts: 3,602
    The Crosstours aren't great sellers. I think they would have been more successful by taking the existing Accord and giving it a hatchback option. But we won't buy hatchbacks so what do I know.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    All Crosstours are V6's/ I think you meant 4WD?

    These are actually cool cars that drive quite well.

    Styling is subjective. Some actually like them.

    They have NOT been good sellers for Honda and it looks like they are trying to dump inventory. A great lease deal for sure!
  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,794
    All Crosstours are V6's/ I think you meant 4WD?

    Not anymore, 4cyl and 6cyl available...

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,467
    Have to cut Craig some slack, he's out of touch now that he sells Kias :P

    the lease deal listing specifically said they were all FWD, but the more expensive one was a V6.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,751
    deposit received.
    agreed price=$6500

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  • akanglakangl Member Posts: 3,282
    I give it 2 months, tops. You are a bad influence on him.

    Nah, he tends to hang on to a car if its paid off. The last one he bought new and paid off was his 1988 F-150 2WD reg cab 6-cyl manual trans, he drove that in Alaska for nearly 10 years and 150k. I see the Civic sticking around a while.

    The only car he's trying to talk me into selling is the Escort, yes, its still here. :blush: We've been at odds about that one, our son isn't taking it, so its either sell it or take it when we move (which is who knows when, all depends on that job front). I want to keep it, hubby says sell it. We'll see who wins that battle.... :mad:
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,467
    Dang. I really thought I was going to snag it for 6!

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,467
    keeping it lying around is not really a big deal, if it is cheap on insurance. But you would be insane to waste GVW moving it!

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,751
    i would have sold it to you for that.

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  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,038
    well, my friend went ahead and pulled the trigger. But, instead of getting the 2011 LS he was looking at, he went with a 2009 LS Ultimate, with 52000 miles, which was around $13,500. So, 2 years older, 21K more miles, but it was about $1500 less. He ended up going with the 2009 because it was better-equipped. Although oddly, it's a bit de-contented compared to the 2004 Crown Vic he traded. First things he noticed were no radio controls on the steering wheel, and no compass, both of which the Crown Vic had.

    I guess as the years went by, these cars were kept around mainly for police/taxi use, and the occasional senior citizen on a fixed income, so they started deleting things here and there to keep the prices reasonable?

    And, alas, he did this transaction before I had a chance to suggest trying to sell his old car on his own. But, I think he just wanted to get it done with as quickly as possible.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    At $45k Buy-it-now isn't the owner hallucinating? It's an '07.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Cost cutting comes and goes. I bet there are a few things under the skin that were upgraded, too, maybe TPMS or EBD or something.

    They add required safety stuff but then remove options to keep prices level.
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,038
    edited July 2012
    They add required safety stuff but then remove options to keep prices level.

    True. I think his '09 has side curtain airbags, whereas the '04 just had the two front airbags. There's also something under the hood that runs for a few seconds after he starts the car...sounds like a small compressor or motor or something. I'm guessing it has some kind of air leveling suspension? His '04 didn't do that.

    It was dark when he came by the house last nite. And hot and muggy, so we didn't bother to open the hood.

    I kinda wish he hadn't bought this car, because now it's giving me the new car itch...
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Hmm, could be a lot of things. Maybe a new ABS pump? Fuel pump?

    I don't think it has an air suspension, does it?
  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,332
    The features I most wish my rental-fleet Altima had are stability control and steering wheel radio controls. It's really nice to be able to adjust the volume without taking your hands off the wheel.
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,038
    I just looked it up on Edmunds and yup, in 2009 it looks like rear air suspension was standard on the Grand Marquis. So, I guess that's what that noise was.

    Oh, and in looking around locally, I found this 2009 LS Ultimate with only ~30000 miles. Nice bluish silver color that would just have matched the hair in Grandma's wig.

    Hmm, maybe I should go check it out. It's pretty close by, although I've never heard of Nissan of Bowie. I think I might have known it as Walker Pontiac, though. My grandparents bought a new '49 Pontiac from them, and for whatever reason, Grandmom felt like they got screwed over. Been so long now though, that I think she's finally forgotten.
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,038
    It's really nice to be able to adjust the volume without taking your hands off the wheel.

    I didn't think those controls were any big deal at first. But, after getting used to them on my 2000 Park Ave, yeah, I agree it's a really nice thing to have.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    As if those needed more isolation than they had already. ;)
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,467
    it is like a keyless entry fob. Once you have it, you can never go back.

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  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Funny how easy it is to be spoiled.

    I remember wanting a manual with a tachometer.

    Next car I wanted A/C and a cassette player (LOL).

    Now we have more tech than NASA had when I bought my first car.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,477
    It's being sold by a Porsche-Audi dealer, so yeah. Needs to be around 40K flat at most.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I bet they gave the guy $25k trade in value. 48k miles isn't a lot, at least.
  • mbh001mbh001 Member Posts: 1
    For those of you buying Nissan 2013 model impressed by mpg and CVT technology, think twice. We bought a brand new model few days ago and we have taken it to service twice already. It initally made metal on metal rubbing noise when we were driving between 30 -40 mph. After we took it to dealer it made a jingle bell like noise when we drove slowly (probably its making that noise in higher speeds but just can't hear!) Again took it to the dealer. But still makes that noise when we drive slowly at random though not consistent. We can hear it on rough surface at some instances. I wish we had not bought this car.My husband fell for the extra 15% gain mpg..We regret this decision now :( :mad:
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    This is exactly why people should take longer test drives.
  • jayriderjayrider Member Posts: 3,602
    Wrong forum for this issue.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,477
    edited July 2012
    Maybe more, but not a huge amount more...demand for the thirsty 6.2 engine is set to fall off a cliff with the amazing new twin turbo V8 being on the market now. That wagon is also not fully loaded.
  • akanglakangl Member Posts: 3,282
    keeping it lying around is not really a big deal, if it is cheap on insurance. But you would be insane to waste GVW moving it!

    Right now its on storage insurance which is $38 for 6 months. It still has studded tires on it which aren't legal on the road until September 15th, I didn't want to spend the $$$ to put summer tires on it since I wasn't sure it was going to be driven much past May 1st (date the studs have to come off). Insurance after the storage insurance comes off is dirt cheap.

    As for getting it out of Alaska, I had planned on having someone drive it out to Bellingham where hubby is meeting me, then I'll get it from there and he can take the truck/trailer. The Civic will go into the trailer, he would never let anyone else drive his beloved Honda. Will cost me about $500 to get the Escort through Canada if I can find someone who is looking to drive out anyway (lots of people want to do it but don't have a car). I think I trust the Escort to make it 1800 miles through Canada and then the rest of the way to where we are going.

    I feel a battle coming over my plan though, he really wants the car gone. He doesn't have the fondness for the rabid little beast that I do. :sick:
  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    I've been out if it for two years now and I didn't know Honda was making 4 cyl Crosstours.

    I wouldn't be surprised if they go the way of the element.
  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,937
    edited July 2012
    Fun day of car browsing today ended in a purchase. I won't actually complete the transaction until Monday, but we agreed on pricing to trade our GTI for this:

    Audi A5

    We ventured out to look at some A4s, but when I mentioned how much I like the look of the A5's, my wife suggested I go that route, considering we have other more practical cars in the garage. The backseat on these is actually pretty usable for kids on short trips (meaning I can take my boys to school and still enjoy the car the rest of the day - something I couldn't do in my previous Miata the GTI replaced).

    While not quite as usable/practical as the GTI, I'm excited about picking up an A5 which I've lusted after for quite awhile. I expect the automatic to be a welcome change for our long work commute (we'll hold on to the 530i so we still have a stick) and the AWD makes it feel a bit more planted than the GTI.

    Not having owned an Audi before, I'm also excited about the CPO warranty. :)

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,751
    so how long did you have the GTI? I think it was a shorter time than I had mine!

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  • rayainswrayainsw Member Posts: 3,192
    Looks very nice.
    Enjoy!
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  • jayriderjayrider Member Posts: 3,602
    Congrats on your new ride. A real beauty. I'm jealous of everything but the costs -- getting old has it's benefits. Chasing cars is not part of my present but I totally understand your passion. Good luck.
  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,937
    Just about exactly one year on the GTI. :blush:

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,751
    yup. i was about 17 mos.

    and we both replaced with german coupes. go figure.

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  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 26,038
    Congrats on your new ride. A real beauty.

    I concur. I've always considered Audis (and most German cars) a bit too blue for my blood, but will confess that I find the A5 coupe, and A8 sedan to be very attractive cars.

    I'm jealous of everything but the costs -- getting old has it's benefits. Chasing cars is not part of my present but I totally understand your passion.

    I find I'm starting to get that way, too. With cars I'm starting to take sort of a grandparent mentality, I guess. I enjoy going to the new car shows, and classic car shows, looking at them and enjoying them for the day. But, like a grandparent, I'm content to hand them back over to the "parent" at the end of the day, and let them deal with the hassles, messes, and expenses.
  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,847
    My mom has a 2011 A5 Premium Plus Coupe equipped exactly as yours is, just in Deep Blue over Cinnamon interior. It is an absolutely wonderful car, and I can attest to the backseat being comfortable - even for my 6'1 frame.

    Enjoy!
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