Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous

tbirdmarco

@stickguy nice nice whats an few mor days! yes you should be good for that discount now!

fordfool

Michaell said:

Got an email from our Subaru dealer this morning informing me I could upgrade our 2015 Outback 3.6R to a 2017 Outback 3.6R and actually lower our payment!

Sure, but how many additional payments will there be?

tbirdmarco

so Honda dealer near me maby 2 miles has 4 2016 accords left 3 v6 and one 4 sil maby 2 so maby 5 in total and they have an tun of 2017 accord v6s left and 4 sil ones to! no 2018s yet looking!

stickguy

those pull aheads are pretty much just turning your loan into a lease, if the numbers make sense for you. If you want the new car, and depreciation is in your favor, go for it. But if the car is pretty much the same, might was well ride it out.

Though if this is a case where a 2 YO Subaru pretty much depreciated next to nothing, take advantage of that and jump to a new one and start the clock over.

Sandman6472

In Tennessee today, a brand new silver Elantra Sport drove by and I pointed it out to Mrs. Sandman...she approved and must admit it's a real nice vehicle! And what one gets for the price makes it that much more, think Hyundai's gonna sell a boatload of these puppies! A lot of bang for the buck!!
In Macon Georgia right now and so ready to go home!! Tomorrow's ten days of being on vacation and though it's been a ton of fun, time to go back to our life now. Did learn something though and that's that I can do car travel but just need to take it easy. As long as I don't push my body, I can go do things but just need to schedule appropriately. The wife's happy to see this because I want my, our retired life to include seeing America and doing it by automobile! As long as I do it in moderation, all will be good!!

The Sandman

stickguy

Sandy, the nice thing about retirement travel, is time does now matter. unlike vacation travel where you are on a schedule and have to be some place. When just wandering, if you don't feel like moving one day, don't.

You sound like you want an RV experience, but I really can't see you traveling around in one. Car and motel works too, just pricier (putting aside the cost of buying the RV rig!)

tbirdmarco

@sandman_6472 nice nice all good news so glad to hear! now what car to go and see Emerica with! have an safe rest of your trip home!

tbirdmarco

getting Tbird back from shop this week cumming up whall most likely week from today next Saturday! bit of work is done road wearthy!

Michaell

fordfool said:

Michaell said:

Got an email from our Subaru dealer this morning informing me I could upgrade our 2015 Outback 3.6R to a 2017 Outback 3.6R and actually lower our payment!

Sure, but how many additional payments will there be?

The way I figure it, about 30 or so.

Mentioned the email to the wife, and I couldn't even finish the sentence before she said "no".

nyccarguy

Marcothecarguy1986 said:

getting Tbird back from shop this week cumming up whall most likely week from today next Saturday! bit of work is done road wearthy!

Very cool @Marcothecarguy1986. You must be excited!

tbirdmarco

@nyccarguy yes I really am! has bin an long 6 weeks lol and menny phone calls every week! going to sound real good to now the way I want it!

kyfdx

Michaell said:

fordfool said:

Michaell said:

Got an email from our Subaru dealer this morning informing me I could upgrade our 2015 Outback 3.6R to a 2017 Outback 3.6R and actually lower our payment!

Sure, but how many additional payments will there be?

The way I figure it, about 30 or so.

Mentioned the email to the wife, and I couldn't even finish the sentence before she said "no".

What you really need is an accountant to do the math for you..

Unfortunately, the accountant you know best is @breld

breld

kyfdx said:

Michaell said:

fordfool said:

Michaell said:

Got an email from our Subaru dealer this morning informing me I could upgrade our 2015 Outback 3.6R to a 2017 Outback 3.6R and actually lower our payment!

Sure, but how many additional payments will there be?

The way I figure it, about 30 or so.

Mentioned the email to the wife, and I couldn't even finish the sentence before she said "no".

What you really need is an accountant to do the math for you..

Unfortunately, the accountant you know best is @breld

Yup - just tell me what you want the numbers to reflect and I'll make it happen.

stickguy

Michael, sounds like my wife. "but I like my car". So we will have the RDX most likely a long time. Or until the first time it breaks down and strands her, at which point she will take my car and it will be time to shop.

Breld, the want is a new car in the driveway. the numbers, just semantics! Making a like model upgrade even odder. It isn't even like getting something new.

kyfdx

Wife's new plate.

kyfdx

If she only had a Jag...

stickguy

guy near me used to have an S type Jag. plate was purr4u. he now has a lincoln MKS sedan and kept the plate. odd

ab348

That plate is probably worth something to a James Bond fan who owns a Jag XKR.

tbirdmarco

@kyfdx nice nice

carnaught

kyfdx said:

Wife's new plate.

So, I assume that this was totally random.

tbirdmarco

anyone see an new Acord on the road yet! no it has only bin 4 days!

stickguy

nope. haven't stopped by dealer yet either. probably won't be doing that for a while either.

carnaught

Possible punch alert, coming this week if the numbers crunch all right. Stay tuned...

nyccarguy

kyfdx said:

Wife's new plate.

Now YOU have to trade in the 330Ci ZHP.  This would be the greatest excuse for a punch.  The DMV sent me this plate, so I JUST HAD to go out and find a BRG XKR.

corvette

Marcothecarguy1986 said:

getting Tbird back from shop this week cumming up whall most likely week from today next Saturday! bit of work is done road wearthy!

Congrats, Marco!

roadburner

stickguy said:

guy near me used to have an S type Jag. plate was purr4u. he now has a lincoln MKS sedan and kept the plate. odd

I have BMW CCA on the 2 Series and M SPORT on the 318ti. I had GOJIRA on my MS3...

kyfdx

carnaught said:

kyfdx said:

Wife's new plate.

So, I assume that this was totally random.

It's not a personalized plate. I just asked for one that would be easy to remember. She asked if I wanted a "00" plate. I said sure. That's a standard format for KY

kyfdx

When I registered the TDI, last year, she pulled out a plate that started with 666. My son was with me, and said, "Don't do it", but I did.

Sandman6472

Got home at 9:45 and was a good ride. Costs us $88.00 to drive home, the cost of my airplane ticket! The 2017 Nissan Versa sedan was very very economical and we had so much room for our stuff. Nashville was great and we saw what I could manage to get to, a bit more walking in a short period of time. When we go back, will see what we missed!
Great trip otherwise. Now time to plan a wedding!!!

The Sandman

tbirdmarco

@corvette thank you Man!

Michaell

sandman_6472 said:

Got home at 9:45 and was a good ride. Costs us $88.00 to drive home, the cost of my airplane ticket! The 2017 Nissan Versa sedan was very very economical and we had so much room for our stuff. Nashville was great and we saw what I could manage to get to, a bit more walking in a short period of time. When we go back, will see what we missed!
Great trip otherwise. Now time to plan a wedding!!!

The Sandman

Sandy - glad the drive home was both fun and uneventful.

I was texting with my sister - her, my BIL and my mom flew from San Diego to Charlottesville, VA today. There is a wedding to attend tomorrow, and on Monday my BIL flies home to SD while my mom and sis drive 4+ hours to NE Tennessee so my mom can see one of her oldest friends.

They have a white Hyundai Sonata as their rental.

But, according to my sis, they almost didn't make it. They missed their original flight due to poor time management. Luckily, they were able to get booked as standby on a flight through O'Hare (the original flight was supposed to connect in Charlotte, NC), and got to town a few hours late. Tired, but in good spirits.

Wedding is at 4 tomorrow afternoon, so they are going to do some historical sight-seeing in the morning. I know UVA is there, and I hope they are able to visit Monticello as well.

tbirdmarco

@stickguy eventually when you get sum time in an few weeks cant wate to hear your take on the new Acord!

tbirdmarco

@sandman_6472 glad you had an nice time and trip!

tbirdmarco

@carnaught hoping that the numbers work out for you nd than you will have an punch recorded! can you give us sum hints in to what brand and car it is! we all want to no in hear!

stickguy

once I finally get the new car in and the Sonata returned, need to get tires on the RDX checked to see how the tread is doing. I think I should probably just bite the bullet and get them replaced before winter. Heck, last December the tire shop was trying to convince me it was time (though in the spring Acura dealer said had some life left) Just over 5 YO now, and at about 42K miles, so got good use out of them on a vehicle like this.

Still have it narrowed down to 2 choices. Pirelli Scorpion Verde plus, and Cooper CS5 ultra touring. like them both. Leaning slightly toward the Pirellis for some reason (probably brand name history). But the cooper's are a good value and well regarded too. Tough decision.

Michaell

stickguy said:

once I finally get the new car in and the Sonata returned, need to get tires on the RDX checked to see how the tread is doing. I think I should probably just bite the bullet and get them replaced before winter. Heck, last December the tire shop was trying to convince me it was time (though in the spring Acura dealer said had some life left) Just over 5 YO now, and at about 42K miles, so got good use out of them on a vehicle like this.

Still have it narrowed down to 2 choices. Pirelli Scorpion Verde plus, and Cooper CS5 ultra touring. like them both. Leaning slightly toward the Pirellis for some reason (probably brand name history). But the cooper's are a good value and well regarded too. Tough decision.

I replaced the OEM tires on both our VUEs (2005 and 2008) with Coopers. I really liked them. Likely to put Coopers onto the Outback when the time comes.

breld

@stickguy - the wife's GLC had Pirelli Scorpions on them, and when I took it in for the snow tire swap, they said the stock tires are done. That's at about 16k miles.

May want to go with the Coopers based on @michael's experience.

stickguy

OK, you sold me. Plus it seems right, since out late, and greatly missed, yellow lab was named Cooper. That and they are cheaper!

one thing about the Scorpions. Tire rack has a bunch of different versions, with treadwear ratings ranging from about 400-720. The best are the plus model. Some of the low life ones are listed as OEM for Porsche or another brand. The ones I saw at Mavis were the plus with longer rating.

breld

Yeah - I did figure there are a lot of different "versions" of the Pirelli Scorpions, and no doubt as OEMs, the ones on the wife's MB are the worst.

iluvmysephia1

I've had good fortune with Cooper tires on my Kia's, stick.

stickguy

I did some more review reading on both, and decided to go with the Coopers. Thanks all for the feedback. This group is always good for that!

An expensive month. Besides putting money down on a car (hopefully this week!) and tires soon, finally got a contractor out this week to replace a bunch of rotted trim would on the house (looks vastly better now), and we ordered a new stove from Lowes (arrives in a couple weeks since back ordered) since the old one is having some issues, including a dead burner, and wife is paranoid it will die when she is cooking Thanksgiving! So I think that all will wipe out the discretionary spending for this year.

Deferring new carpet for the 3 spare bedrooms and runner for the stairs until the spring. Along with a replacement shed if I can't nurse the old one along. Man, I need to sell this house soon and make this all someone else's problem, though by the time I finish getting it ready, won't be anything left to do!

iluvmysephia1

Reading your post above has me wondering whether I want to buy a house in Wenatchee or its surroundings or not, stick! There's always renting, though Wenatchee has been turned in to a microcosm of Seattle and doesn't quite mirror its housing prices, but they're really high. And landlords do not want renters with pets.

In 8 months when our lease is up, we're going to need to make a decision. We'll need to start looking early.

roadburner

I ren Cooper UHP all-seasons on my MS3 and X3; I was very happy with both their performance and their longevity.

au1994

breld said:

Yeah - I did figure there are a lot of different "versions" of the Pirelli Scorpions, and no doubt as OEMs, the ones on the wife's MB are the worst.

Scorpion Verdes are the OEM tire on our X6. A little over 18k now and there is no way they'll make it much past 20-22k.

stickguy

Iluv, rent/buy decision involves a lot of factors, each person getting a different result. Time you plan to spend there, housing prices vs. rent, what you think the market will do. Pets of course, kids is a biggie when you have them, and just your comfort level.

with the pets, if you can afford to buy where you want to be and expect to be there for a few years at least (and ideally retire there eventually), and you expect the prices to keep rising as the Seattle tide spreads out, then I would buy a place. Especially if rents will be nearly the same as a mortgage payment. Not without any risk, but if you are careful, with a little luck could be ahead of the game in a few years. Plus, no worries the landlord kicks you and your menagerie out, and can't find a replacement rental!

when we move (hopefully next year) I might rent temporarily (wife not a fan) buy we would intend to buy or build something soon after.

iluvmysephia1

Good advice, stick. Yeah, we're thinking we're gonna buy. The boss mentioned he might ship me to a new lab in Moses Lake, and if that happens, we'll be able to rent or buy. The rental market relaxes wonderfully an hour to the east. I would still buy - over there, we can buy a nice place and our payment will be more like I want it to be in retirement - which is around $675 a month. I have figured a new Kia payment in my retirement plans, though to pay off a 2018 Kia Rio5 or sedan completely would be smart, though, to not have a payment in retirement.

I'm planning on about 4 more years of working, Lord willing and the Columbia don't rise.

fintail

If you're going to ML or especially if you want to live in outlying areas, buy. That market seems very affordable to me, and might even be undervalued, as I think the region has a workable economic future. There are some issues especially related to crime, but it's still better than much if not most of the country. You get 4 real seasons too, that's for sure.

My uncle lives in Soap Lake, in a house that he says is worth maybe 180K (which there gets you a large lot and good sized brick house) - it would be a million in west Bellevue pretty easily. 150K will get you something decent in ML, too.

iluvmysephia1 said:

Good advice, stick. Yeah, we're thinking we're gonna buy. The boss mentioned he might ship me to a new lab in Moses Lake, and if that happens, we'll be able to rent or buy. The rental market relaxes wonderfully an hour to the east. I would still buy - over there, we can buy a nice place and our payment will be more like I want it to be in retirement - which is around $675 a month. I have figured a new Kia payment in my retirement plans, though to pay off a 2018 Kia Rio5 or sedan completely would be smart, though, to not have a payment in retirement.

I'm planning on about 4 more years of working, Lord willing and the Columbia don't rise.

tjc78

@stickguy
I hear you the spending.  My gosh I hear you.  Ours was just topped off with night in NYC and mini shopping spree for our 5th anniversary.   House should be done this week and Until Christmas shopping starts we are *done*

For the group.. if you are ever in NYC and like steak, you must try Keens.  Wow this was our third time there and I swear it’s the best I’ve ever had.   Funny thing we were last there on our first anniversary and we were sat in the exact same table.  What a coincidence. 

ab348

@stickguy - I was on the car lots this AM and saw the exact duplicate (I think) of the car you are getting - Elantra Sport turbo, white, automatic. Looked good, the wheels set it off nicely. Inside room looks about the same as my ATS so any back seat passengers should be either kids or very understanding adults. I noticed the red stitching on the seats.

stickguy

I found the back seat to be plenty room (6' tall). Lots of leg room behind my seat setting, and my head was not hitting. Not that I need much room, but it was plenty IMO. Not at cavernous as the Sonata, but the Elantra is just over a foot shorter, and the room had to come from someplace!