Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous

Michaell

au1994 said:

Nobody has stated the obvious. @breld is at a dealership with (practically) $15k in his pocket. How is this going to end???

I was at the sister MINI dealership picking up the Countryman - didn't coordinate with @breld, so we missed each other.

I think he will pocket the profit from the Supra and survey the field. I'm starting to notice more, er, maturity in his car buying process. Notice he didn't jump right into either of the M2's he was stalking? A few years ago, he'd have pulled the trigger pretty quickly.

oldfarmer50

Michaell said:

au1994 said:

Nobody has stated the obvious. @breld is at a dealership with (practically) $15k in his pocket. How is this going to end???

I was at the sister MINI dealership picking up the Countryman - didn't coordinate with @breld, so we missed each other.

I think he will pocket the profit from the Supra and survey the field. I'm starting to notice more, er, maturity in his car buying process. Notice he didn't jump right into either of the M2's he was stalking? A few years ago, he'd have pulled the trigger pretty quickly.

Well, that’s disappointing!

breld

FWIW, that 2018 M2 manual was still sitting there available. I thought it had sold - I'll be curious to see if it goes through a price reduction, but it would have to get quite low to tempt me.

xwesx

dad23 said:

The grill's growing on me, actually love the color. There's something to be said about driving a vehicle that doesn't match every other one on the road!

That's a helluva green!

corvette

This is certainly a look:
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/832979187/overview/

qbrozen

@breld , how about having carvana drop something off for the free 30-day test drive? You could get several out of your system that wAy. I do wonder how many before they cut you off.

Other route for you is Turo or just regular rentals. Gotta find the high end stuff, of course. Drive your Leaf to where renting from and leave it there. Haha.

28firefighter

corvette said:

This is certainly a look:
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/832979187/overview/

Oy.

stickguy

nasty. I just read the listing, and not only do they want the moon for it $ wise, they don't even mention the wrap.

nyccarguy

That green & that grill on the M3. There needs to be a vomit button here on Edmunds in addition to the flag, quote, like, & lol

nyccarguy

I think the M3 Competition press car is black or very dark grey. The dark color hides that hideous grille well.

explorerx4

I'm thinking the wide euro style license plate kind of bisects the grilles.

tjc78

nyccarguy said:

I think the M3 Competition press car is black or very dark grey. The dark color hides that hideous grille well.

Same thing on some Toyota models. The dark colors hide the grill much better.

pensfan83

Was it @roadburner who said there are already aftermarket front clips for the M3/4 and 4 series?

tjc78

Should I do it?

qbrozen

If you have to ask ....

corvette

"Loyal customers?" How many cars have you bought from them?

oldfarmer50

corvette said:

This is certainly a look:
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/832979187/overview/

Don’t let your kids play with crayons near your truck.

tjc78

corvette said:

"Loyal customers?" How many cars have you bought from them?

Zero. They gave me a stupid expensive quote on an XT6... that was the level of interaction. LOL

oldfarmer50

explorerx4 said:

@oldfarmer50,
Seems like a great number.
Try Vroom, too.
I have a feeling their offer will be lower.
They just went through a well published fiasco with TFL.

I thought that was an insane offer on a six year old car but what would I replace it with in a hyper-inflated market?

oldfarmer50

tjc78 said:

Should I do it?

Yes, we love spending other people’s money.

explorerx4

@oldfarmer50,
Just another easily obtained data point.

graphicguy

breld said:

At the dealership getting my X3 serviced. I was pleased that it was no problem to “refresh” the maintenance plan into my name, so this 20k service essentially cost me $100. It’ll be the last included maintenance since the car turns 3 years old next month, but obviously worth it just for this single service.

This is in the showroom...

I can’t even........oh....never mind!

carnaught

Hard pass on the new Hummer.

tifighter

tjc78 said:

corvette said:

"Loyal customers?" How many cars have you bought from them?

Zero. They gave me a stupid expensive quote on an XT6... that was the level of interaction. LOL

I read this as a Subaru XT6 from the 80's and thought, man we're going way back.

stickguy

Now this I want to see in person. I’ve been waiting for an actual compact, compact truck to come out again!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOqL2fdjJFs

Michaell

Posted on a Slack thread at work - thought it might be appropriate here.

oldfarmer50

stickguy said:

Now this I want to see in person. I’ve been waiting for an actual compact, compact truck to come out again!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOqL2fdjJFs

So many questions. How does it compare in size to the Ranger? Isn’t Ford afraid that this truck will cannibalize Ranger sales? How about prices, this video mentions $27k while I think the Ranger starts in the upper $20s.

I wouldn’t mind a 2 door with a longer bed.

explorerx4

Think Bronco Sport(Escape) based pickup. Smaller than a Ranger.

ab348

Yes, more the size of the old Ranger though not quite as small. A unibody pickup like the Ridgeline I believe. They will sell a bunch if priced right.

corvette

ab348 said:

They will sell a bunch if priced right.

That's the tricky part--hard to justify a Ranger/Colorado/Canyon when the real-world selling prices are so close to a full-size.

stickguy

I saw another video with clear pictures and more detail. Unibody, IRS, and about 2 feet shorter than a ranger. And smaller engine.

stickguy

Oh, and estimated to start about $20k, with FWD.

stickguy

corvette said:

ab348 said:

They will sell a bunch if priced right.

That's the tricky part--hard to justify a Ranger/Colorado/Canyon when the real-world selling prices are so close to a full-size.

Some people just don’t want a behemoth like that though. We might be a minority, but we exist!

Trucks like this are huge in S. America.

stickguy

I’d absolutely get something like this.

https://soloautos.mx/noticias/detalle/ram-1000-mexico/ED-LATAM-19321/

roadburner

My three least favorite Fords were the Bronco, Maverick and Tempo. Just one more nameplate to resurrect...

oldfarmer50

corvette said:

ab348 said:

They will sell a bunch if priced right.

That's the tricky part--hard to justify a Ranger/Colorado/Canyon when the real-world selling prices are so close to a full-size.

Out of curiosity I went on Ford’s site. There really is no stripper Ranger. Doesn’t even have a manual tranny option in the XL model. I found I could get a real, at the dealer, model with no options except a $500 tow hitch for about $25k after incentives. Less than I thought.

Of course you can really load them up. Some of the higher trim levels topped out close to $45k. I suppose if that was your only vehicle and drove it to the club with your rich friends that might make sense but if, like me, you’d be hauling junk to the dump it just wouldn’t fly.

In fact, I don’t even like the idea of a “new” truck. I see a truck as purely utilitarian and it should have some dings and blemishes along with a lower price. The trouble is, there are no cheap trucks any more. Even the junkers go for obscene prices.

tifighter

I like that Maverick. While it will get compared to the Ranger for customers, I bet it also gets compared to the Transit Connect for fleet buyers. Good hedge if the dollar goes awry; the Transit is still imported from Spain, right?

But I agree with RB, there has to be a better name...

breld

Wish there were more pics, but this looks nice and clean overall...

https://denver.craigslist.org/cto/d/broomfield-1995-bmw-318-ti/7287759269.html

corvette

That 318ti is the super rare front wheel drive model. Better act quick before the seller realizes what they've got!

oldfarmer50

breld said:

Wish there were more pics, but this looks nice and clean overall...

https://denver.craigslist.org/cto/d/broomfield-1995-bmw-318-ti/7287759269.html

The seller needs to take a course in photography. There’s not one clear picture of the whole car.

Now I know that I’m a low mile fanatic but how would you know that at 129k miles that car wasn’t all used up and waiting to slap you with expensive repairs? I mean, my cargo van has about the same mileage and it’s a wreck.

xwesx

corvette said:

This is certainly a look:
https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/832979187/overview/

Hahaha. I like how they say the exterior color is "black." "Ignore the wrap, it's black underneath. Trust us."

roadburner

breld said:

Wish there were more pics, but this looks nice and clean overall...

https://denver.craigslist.org/cto/d/broomfield-1995-bmw-318-ti/7287759269.html

"highly desired ice cold A/C"?
A/C was standard, you imbecile.

roadburner

corvette said:

That 318ti is the super rare front wheel drive model. Better act quick before the seller realizes what they've got!

That would give me pause; much like the brain dead morons who advertise V6 5 Series- I'm a bit hesitant to buy a car from a dimwit who doesn't know the engine or drivetrain configurations of the car he is selling.

roadburner

oldfarmer50 said:

breld said:

Wish there were more pics, but this looks nice and clean overall...

https://denver.craigslist.org/cto/d/broomfield-1995-bmw-318-ti/7287759269.html

The seller needs to take a course in photography. There’s not one clear picture of the whole car.

Now I know that I’m a low mile fanatic but how would you know that at 129k miles that car wasn’t all used up and waiting to slap you with expensive repairs? I mean, my cargo van has about the same mileage and it’s a wreck.

in 1990 I bought an E28 535is with 90k miles on it with no warranty. I look at service history over miles. An e36/5 is extremely simple mechanically and very durable.

xwesx

stickguy said:

Now this I want to see in person. I’ve been waiting for an actual compact, compact truck to come out again!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOqL2fdjJFs

Wow! That's the one that was here in Fairbanks. It looked just like that, down to the camo. I don't think it's really all that small. Maybe "mid-size" from the early '00s. It may not be longer than the old Ranger, but I think it is most definitely wider. And, honestly, that's good. If this thing can hold a 4' sheet of plywood, etc., flat in the bed, then it's a winner.

xwesx

oldfarmer50 said:

In fact, I don’t even like the idea of a “new” truck. I see a truck as purely utilitarian and it should have some dings and blemishes along with a lower price. The trouble is, there are no cheap trucks any more. Even the junkers go for obscene prices.

Yep! That's why I bought my truck for $500 24 years ago... and it's still my truck!

dad23

I thought I found one for you @breld, but it’s an automatic...

corvette

Haven't been here since 2007... Should I take the Tundra? *scratches chin*


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFoFPHsc8Vc

oldfarmer50

corvette said:

Haven't been here since 2007... Should I take the Tundra? *scratches chin*


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFoFPHsc8Vc

All fun and games until you meet somebody doing the same thing coming the other way.

au1994

xwesx said:

stickguy said:

Now this I want to see in person. I’ve been waiting for an actual compact, compact truck to come out again!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOqL2fdjJFs

Wow! That's the one that was here in Fairbanks. It looked just like that, down to the camo. I don't think it's really all that small. Maybe "mid-size" from the early '00s. It may not be longer than the old Ranger, but I think it is most definitely wider. And, honestly, that's good. If this thing can hold a 4' sheet of plywood, etc., flat in the bed, then it's a winner.

I too would be in on the Maverick. Looks like the perfect size to me along with the upcoming Hyundai El Camino. The name escapes me at the moment but probably a desert or mountain range.