Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous

qbrozen

Just for fun, I went to dodge.com and built a Charger SP again. This time, I managed to get certain things to line up and specced a Gold Rush (adds blacked out hood/roof/trunk) and matching gold/black alcantara seats. Also the plus and handling packages. Comes to $51.6k. Not cheap but compared to other fast big 4-doors, it is actually quite reasonable. After discount and taxes and fees, should be right around $50k.

Then got me thinking how many flips would I need to pay for it. Got $3500 on the LT1, then $5200 on the Jeep. I’m anticipating, if things hold up, at least $15k on the Ram and $7k on the Ford. Puts me at 30. MAYBE make some on another jeep. So let’s say 35. I could probably get close to the rest from my Daytona. Hmmmmmm….
Let’s call it 6-mo Plan A.

jmonroe1

@qbrozen said:
Just for fun, I went to dodge.com and built a Charger SP again. This time, I managed to get certain things to line up and specced a Gold Rush (adds blacked out hood/roof/trunk) and matching gold/black alcantara seats. Also the plus and handling packages. Comes to $51.6k. Not cheap but compared to other fast big 4-doors, it is actually quite reasonable. After discount and taxes and fees, should be right around $50k.

Then got me thinking how many flips would I need to pay for it. Got $3500 on the LT1, then $5200 on the Jeep. I’m anticipating, if things hold up, at least $15k on the Ram and $7k on the Ford. Puts me at 30. MAYBE make some on another jeep. So let’s say 35. I could probably get close to the rest from my Daytona. Hmmmmmm….
Let’s call it 6-mo Plan A.

I wish you luck but I think you’d have to sell the Daytona twice to get close to your numbers. But, doing that would land you in the slammer, so you better not do that.

jmonroe

qbrozen

@jmonroe1 said:

@qbrozen said:
Just for fun, I went to dodge.com and built a Charger SP again. This time, I managed to get certain things to line up and specced a Gold Rush (adds blacked out hood/roof/trunk) and matching gold/black alcantara seats. Also the plus and handling packages. Comes to $51.6k. Not cheap but compared to other fast big 4-doors, it is actually quite reasonable. After discount and taxes and fees, should be right around $50k.

Then got me thinking how many flips would I need to pay for it. Got $3500 on the LT1, then $5200 on the Jeep. I’m anticipating, if things hold up, at least $15k on the Ram and $7k on the Ford. Puts me at 30. MAYBE make some on another jeep. So let’s say 35. I could probably get close to the rest from my Daytona. Hmmmmmm….
Let’s call it 6-mo Plan A.

I wish you luck but I think you’d have to sell the Daytona twice to get close to your numbers. But, doing that would land you in the slammer, so you better not do that.

jmonroe

You mean $7500 for my daytona? Ha! Not a chance. There are folks out there looking specifically for a hemi orange Daytona. I obviously don’t know for sure, but I’d bet mine is in very limited company with its miles and condition.

qbrozen

Here ya go. 12k fewer miles than mine. Seems to be in similar condition. Only $20k.
https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/link/311770150

jmonroe1

@qbrozen said:

@jmonroe1 said:

@qbrozen said:
Just for fun, I went to dodge.com and built a Charger SP again. This time, I managed to get certain things to line up and specced a Gold Rush (adds blacked out hood/roof/trunk) and matching gold/black alcantara seats. Also the plus and handling packages. Comes to $51.6k. Not cheap but compared to other fast big 4-doors, it is actually quite reasonable. After discount and taxes and fees, should be right around $50k.

Then got me thinking how many flips would I need to pay for it. Got $3500 on the LT1, then $5200 on the Jeep. I’m anticipating, if things hold up, at least $15k on the Ram and $7k on the Ford. Puts me at 30. MAYBE make some on another jeep. So let’s say 35. I could probably get close to the rest from my Daytona. Hmmmmmm….
Let’s call it 6-mo Plan A.

I wish you luck but I think you’d have to sell the Daytona twice to get close to your numbers. But, doing that would land you in the slammer, so you better not do that.

jmonroe

You mean $7500 for my daytona? Ha! Not a chance. There are folks out there looking specifically for a hemi orange Daytona. I obviously don’t know for sure, but I’d bet mine is in very limited company with its miles and condition.

Being serious about this; how much do you think the Daytona will fetch? Also, refresh me about what you paid for it.

jmonroe

stickguy

that makes my little fledgling Maverick empire look like chump change.

I figure I can make a small profit on the flip, but probably not enough to cover the sales tax and doc fees to just sell it out. But, trading it in for something else could work!

qbrozen

Being serious about this; how much do you think the Daytona will fetch? Also, refresh me about what you paid for it.

jmonroe

All that matters is the here and now. I just checked Manheim and an “orange R/T” just crossed in NY. Had 72k miles but a very poor condition report. It fetched over $10k.

I honestly think 15 for mine is not crazy. And I would definitely put it on C&B.

xwesx

qbrozen said:

I don’t have a problem with driving. Makes a lot of sense with a family as opposed to flying. And, heck, now with the cost of rentals being what they are, you can save a bundle bringing your own vehicle. But, ya know, then you might blow a radiator on the way home. Whoops.

We all still talk about our 2 weeks driving all over the western US as our best trip to date. So there is something to be said for showing the kids the sights across 4 states in relatively slow motion.

There certainly is! My children liked to complain a lot while we were on the road, but as they get older, many of the memories they bring up relate to the various trips we've done over the years.

Our kids are very well-traveled (by car) at this point. They've criss-crossed the continent several times in their short lives.

jmonroe1

@qbrozen said:

Being serious about this; how much do you think the Daytona will fetch? Also, refresh me about what you paid for it.

jmonroe

All that matters is the here and now. I just checked Manheim and an “orange R/T” just crossed in NY. Had 72k miles but a very poor condition report. It fetched over $10k.

I honestly think 15 for mine is not crazy. And I would definitely put it on C&B.

So, when are you going to do it?

Jmonroe

28firefighter

The problem with the car game is once I cash out, I have a brain block about investing it in another car. Now it’s savings and I feel compelled to put it in the market.

Otherwise I’d be arbitraging my way to a Rivian R1T.

qbrozen

@jmonroe1 said:

@qbrozen said:

Being serious about this; how much do you think the Daytona will fetch? Also, refresh me about what you paid for it.

jmonroe

All that matters is the here and now. I just checked Manheim and an “orange R/T” just crossed in NY. Had 72k miles but a very poor condition report. It fetched over $10k.

I honestly think 15 for mine is not crazy. And I would definitely put it on C&B.

So, when are you going to do it?

Jmonroe

Gotta get through those other flips first, so it depends on when my orders come through. At this point, I’m hoping for the ram by Feb and the jeeps by March-April.

oldfarmer50

qbrozen said:

@jmonroe1 said:

@qbrozen said:

Just for fun, I went to dodge.com and built a Charger SP again. This time, I managed to get certain things to line up and specced a Gold Rush (adds blacked out hood/roof/trunk) and matching gold/black alcantara seats. Also the plus and handling packages. Comes to $51.6k. Not cheap but compared to other fast big 4-doors, it is actually quite reasonable. After discount and taxes and fees, should be right around $50k.

Then got me thinking how many flips would I need to pay for it. Got $3500 on the LT1, then $5200 on the Jeep. I’m anticipating, if things hold up, at least $15k on the Ram and $7k on the Ford. Puts me at 30. MAYBE make some on another jeep. So let’s say 35. I could probably get close to the rest from my Daytona. Hmmmmmm….

Let’s call it 6-mo Plan A.

I wish you luck but I think you’d have to sell the Daytona twice to get close to your numbers. But, doing that would land you in the slammer, so you better not do that.

jmonroe

You mean $7500 for my daytona? Ha! Not a chance. There are folks out there looking specifically for a hemi orange Daytona. I obviously don’t know for sure, but I’d bet mine is in very limited company with its miles and condition.

Just make sure you put in the ad: “no low ballers, I know what I got”.

mrwhipple311

Punch yesterday
Had not seen a Hyundai Santa Cruz in person; stopped by local dealer who had one that was marked with a 2.5k ADM sticker. Sat in it and found it to my liking, was offered a drive around the lot which I took. In the process of that I mentioned that I was just doing homework and I don't do ADMs; figured that would get me out quickly.
I let him get his manager and who comes over and says that he can drop the ADM today. I'm thinking oh crap this just got real. Decide to go ahead and run numbers and got 6800 for a 2011 Hyundai Elantra with hail damage. Crap getting really real. % for 48... dammit... I wasn't going to buy today.
So I unfreeze credit, get thru finance office in about 10 minutes (told him right off the bat I'm not buying anything, he gave it a shot but I stayed no).
So I now have a 2022 Hyundai Santa Cruz SEL Premium

stickguy

congrats. I sat in one at the dealer a while back and it was nice (did not drive it though). Good job getting the ADM off. Hopefully a lot of dealers are just using that for trolling.

qbrozen

@oldfarmer50 said:
Just make sure you put in the ad: “no low ballers, I know what I got”.

Well that is silly. You’ve got it all wrong. It is, “nO LoW BallerZ. I nO wHat I gOTz.”

explorerx4

You need to add 'Brah' on the end.

stickguy

and make sure to only take pictures in the dark. crooked and out of focus. Preferably buried in a garage.

stickguy

I kinda like this one. Nice looking car, in just about my favorite color combo. Nothing fancy, but for a spare car that isn't going to the track, probably would do a great job. Seems pricey but these days, everything does, so maybe not all that bad with only 50K miles on it. Still very attractive, no crazy rubber band tires, etc. Really just looks like a supersized 3 series. Could do worse for less than what a new Elantra (base trim) is going for now!

https://www.royalmotorsnj.com/details-2016-bmw-5_series-528i_xdrive-used-wba5a7c57gg152262.html

and no pictures, but from the blurb (1 owner with records) even with the miles, this could be a really good winter beater/haul the junk and dogs around 2nd car. And anything decent now for less than 10K seems like some kind of bargain. though fatal flaw, seems to be before backup cameras (so might have to look at the wireless unit I found for Driver!) A barge like this needs one of those.

https://www.royalmotorsnj.com/details-2008-acura-mdx-4wd_4dr-used-2hnyd28258h546173.html

28firefighter

That 528 is going to be very pokey power wise.

corvette

28firefighter said:

That 528 is going to be very pokey power wise.

Agreed. And I love that color combo, but the wheels are a little too small for my liking.

carnaught

Don’t know if I mentioned this before but I put a refundable deposit down on a Hyundai
Ioniq 5 for an eventual Prius replacement. This isn’t a commitment, rather first “dibs” rights. It looks to have a lot going for it. Problem is, with the current chip and other widespread supply problems, my dealer doesn’t have any idea when they’ll see them.

corvette

@stickguy - I'd definitely look into how integrated an aftermarket backup camera can get on that MDX. Not sure if you can replace the head unit with something with a color screen--I think that is after Acura went to the integrated dash. Also, they say all the regular scheduled maintenance has been performed, but I'd want to see either a sticker under the hood or an entry on the Carfax confirming that the timing belt was done.

stickguy

On something like a an mdx I would only do a stand alone system. Can’t swap out headunit on that.

5 series? I like 17” wheels with some sidewall. A bonus to me! And I doubt it’s any slower than our RDX.

mjfloyd1

@28firefighter said:
That 528 is going to be very pokey power wise.

I had a 528xi the body style before that one. It was an In-line 6. I put an intake from a 530 on it and the cable was already there to connect it up. It was not bad at all. Then a deer ran into the passenger front quarter panel right by the wheel. It did not end well for the deer - broken legs and a state trooper put it out of its misery.

28firefighter

When the 528 had a 6 it was better. Now it’s a turbo four and this is a big car for that.

sda

I really like the color combination on that 5 series. When did BMW replace the 6 with a turbo 4?

explorerx4

0-60 in 6.2, so not slow but not fast.

stickguy

fast to me.

roadburner

@stickguy said:
I kinda like this one. Nice looking car, in just about my favorite color combo. Nothing fancy, but for a spare car that isn't going to the track, probably would do a great job. Seems pricey but these days, everything does, so maybe not all that bad with only 50K miles on it. Still very attractive, no crazy rubber band tires, etc. Really just looks like a supersized 3 series. Could do worse for less than what a new Elantra (base trim) is going for now!

https://www.royalmotorsnj.com/details-2016-bmw-5_series-528i_xdrive-used-wba5a7c57gg152262.html

and no pictures, but from the blurb (1 owner with records) even with the miles, this could be a really good winter beater/haul the junk and dogs around 2nd car. And anything decent now for less than 10K seems like some kind of bargain. though fatal flaw, seems to be before backup cameras (so might have to look at the wireless unit I found for Driver!) A barge like this needs one of those.

https://www.royalmotorsnj.com/details-2008-acura-mdx-4wd_4dr-used-2hnyd28258h546173.html

If you like the 5er budget for 2-3 energy drinks per day to prevent falling asleep at the wheel.

mjfloyd1

28firefighter said:

When the 528 had a 6 it was better. Now it’s a turbo four and this is a big car for that.

I can't stand the sound of the idling turbo 4. Singer sewing machine.

corvette

qbrozen

qbrozen said:

Just for fun, I went to dodge.com and built a Charger SP again. This time, I managed to get certain things to line up and specced a Gold Rush (adds blacked out hood/roof/trunk) and matching gold/black alcantara seats. Also the plus and handling packages. Comes to $51.6k. Not cheap but compared to other fast big 4-doors, it is actually quite reasonable. After discount and taxes and fees, should be right around $50k.

Then got me thinking how many flips would I need to pay for it. Got $3500 on the LT1, then $5200 on the Jeep. I’m anticipating, if things hold up, at least $15k on the Ram and $7k on the Ford. Puts me at 30. MAYBE make some on another jeep. So let’s say 35. I could probably get close to the rest from my Daytona. Hmmmmmm….

Let’s call it 6-mo Plan A.

Talking to older son this morn. We kind of came to the conclusion that the '08 should stay with us. Formulated a possible Plan B: get the Coronet working over the winter and sell THAT instead of the Charger and, along with the flipping money, spend it on a '22 Challenger SP instead.

I can't, for the life of me, figure out a good color combo on one of those. I don't know why, but they allow gold guts with gold exterior on the Charger but not the Challenger. Oddly, it allows Hellraisin and gold guts. I'm really not sure how that would look in real life.

corvette

Do you really need both a Charger and a Challenger in the fleet? Or do you tentatively plan to sell the Charger once the Challenger arrives?

explorerx4

To paraphrase Jim Mora,
Need? We're talking about Need? You kidding me, Need?

tjc78

@qbrozen said:
Talking to older son this morn. We kind of came to the conclusion that the '08 should stay with us. Formulated a possible Plan B: get the Coronet working over the winter and sell THAT instead of the Charger and, along with the flipping money, spend it on a '22 Challenger SP instead.

I can't, for the life of me, figure out a good color combo on one of those. I don't know why, but they allow gold guts with gold exterior on the Charger but not the Challenger. Oddly, it allows Hellraisin and gold guts. I'm really not sure how that would look in real life.

I’ve seen an Army green that looks pretty good, but not sure if it’s a stock color or not.

stickguy

"Need" is a nebulous term.

and if you don't like the color, just wrap it.

carnaught

tjc78 said:

@qbrozen said:

Talking to older son this morn. We kind of came to the conclusion that the '08 should stay with us. Formulated a possible Plan B: get the Coronet working over the winter and sell THAT instead of the Charger and, along with the flipping money, spend it on a '22 Challenger SP instead.

I can't, for the life of me, figure out a good color combo on one of those. I don't know why, but they allow gold guts with gold exterior on the Charger but not the Challenger. Oddly, it allows Hellraisin and gold guts. I'm really not sure how that would look in real life.

I’ve seen an Army green that looks pretty good, but not sure if it’s a stock color or not.

Army green, ah, is an acquired taste IMHO 😐.

tjc78

@carnaught said:
Army green, ah, is an acquired taste IMHO 😐.

Normally I’d never…. But for some reason I like it on the Charger/Challenger

imidazol97

I saw one in that color within the last week driving on the interstate. It looks
good in that color.

corvette

Discount Tire to acquire Tire Rack

I hope they adopt TR's (superior) review and rating system.

stickguy

I am guessing, sadly, that the top notch service from Tire Rack is about to take a nosedive.

qbrozen

tjc78 said:

I’ve seen an Army green that looks pretty good, but not sure if it’s a stock color or not.

I'm guessing that is F8 green you saw. It is pretty good, but not great. Just doesn't give me that retro vibe the car deserves.

And ... need? seriously? None of us needs anything other than a Prius or Minivan or maybe pickup.

corvette

stickguy said:

I am guessing, sadly, that the top notch service from Tire Rack is about to take a nosedive.

I've received excellent customer service from Discount Tire, both online and in person.

Michaell

corvette said:

stickguy said:

I am guessing, sadly, that the top notch service from Tire Rack is about to take a nosedive.

I've received excellent customer service from Discount Tire, both online and in person.

Ditto.

imidazol97

I expect the prices at Tire Rack to go up. It has always been my reference source for tire info and pricing.

roadburner

explorerx4 said:

0-60 in 6.2, so not slow but not fast.

Even my wife's X1 is faster- so I vote s l o w...

stickguy

more than fast enough for any normal use.

roadburner

Normal is boring.

stickguy

well, doing 120 through the Target parking lot got me a lot of frowns and a few flashing lights, which I guess you could say is exciting.

Michaell

And, not everybody has a get out of jail free card, like you do…