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OK, let me see if I understand this correctly, you pay INFLATED DEALER PRICES for maintenance, only to have them give you a "Free" set of tires what---every 35,000 to 40,000 miles? If you pencil this out it is not going to make much sense. This is not to mention all the "service" that the dealer comes up with that is not even printed in the owner's manual.
STAY AWAY.....STAY AWAY.......
This is what i found!
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The Website you found!
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Toyota Camry 6cyl... nice ride, but there is an annoying hesitation between the time you press the gas and the car actually moves. I can't believe Toyota let this car out of design stage with this hesitation problem. The Camry isn't a bad car, but it's interior and styling are kind of plain-jane looking to me. Again... I hate the small tires.
Ford 500.... I test drove a Ford 500 Limited and the dealer even let me drive it home over night without me even asking! The 500 cruises well on the highway, but is not as quiet as it should be. It is a little under-powered, but it will get a 250hp engine in 2007. A navigation system and a few other options will be offered in 2006. The 500 is a nice car, but there were too many things I didn't like about it to buy one right now.
Hyundai Sonata.... (2006) WOW...Is this a Hyundai? I would have never considered a Hyundai until I saw the new Sonata. I drove the V6 last night and was very impressed with the car. It was almost closing time when we got to the dealer to look at the Sonata. We talked to a salesman about the Sonata and were about to leave. The more I looked at the car, the more it said "drive me!!" We went back into the dealership to ask if it was possible to take a test drive even though it was closing time. They paged the salesman who was already in his car leaving when he heard the page. He came back and took us for a test drive. I like the way the Sonata drives and I like the large tires. I think if Hyundai would have been offering some incentives right now, we would have brought the Sonata home with us. I'm still pushing for an overnight test drive, which the salesman told me was "possible". The salesman said one reason they aren't offering incentives on the '06 Sonata is because they still have a lot of '05 models to unload, so that's were the incentives are right now. I hope Hyundai doesn't wait too long because they will lose sales on the '06. I want to get rid of my Pontiac Grand Am ASAP! Come on Hyundai... I want a new car... give me a reason!
YOU ARE A CAR SALESMAN'S WORST NIGHTMARE. Have some consideration for the poor guy! Customers can be so inconsiderate!
We were not being inconsiderate! I told the sales manager that I understood they were about to close and that if it was too late for a test drive... that was OK! He insisted that is wasn't too late and got another salesman to help us when our original salesman came back into the showroom. The test drive took less than ten minutes of his time. I don't think that was being inconsiderate if he gets a sale in the end for staying ten minutes after hours.
Sometimes I have to stay after hours at my job too.... that's life!
He probably could have been halfway home and turned around and came back if he wanted to make the money bad enough.
LOL
Yes, IF he gets the sale. Odds are you will go somewhere else if you can save a few bucks. . . He will get nothing for staying late for a test drive after the store had closed!
Just like with any job, you do what you must to make ends meet....espeically if Joe Bob @ Anywhere Hyundai was having a slow month.
It will be interesting to find out. I hope it is mine, but we will see.
The person has posted nothing to substantiate that statement ... calm down, please, personal attacks are not appropriate.
what a horrible job that was . .
Once I took delivery of my Dark Cinnamon LX, I got a whole different impression of it. It is uncluttered, all controls are easily accessible. The radio controls on the steering wheel are great. I unlike you, prefer the woodgrain trim over the silver trim.
I traded in a 02 Sonata GLS.
1. the ripped off the back end from the new accord............
2. the resale value. nobody keeps their cars for more than 5-6 years nowadays............if you go with the toyota/honda you get 1/2 of your money back after that time......b/c they actually hold their value................with hyundais......you end up getting 5000 dollars less than the honda/toyota. so where's the value?? even if it's cheaper in the beginning, you still don't know about it's long term durability, prestige factor, and quality/engineering.
so in reality, you'd be a fool to buy the sonata unless you are going to keep it for more than 8 or 9 years.
The Sonata is an awesome car. Things I liked:
- Engine power
- Quiet cabin
- Decent handling
- Trip computer
- Multi-link hinges for the trunk lid
- Exterior styling
- Standard ABS, traction control, stability control and curtain airbags
- Driver's side window anti-pinch protection (should be standard on all windows)
- HUGE trunk
- Very good brake modulation and control
- Shiftronic 5 speed transmission
- Hood held open with a gas strut
- NO, I repeat, NO squeaks or rattles of any kind!
Things that need improvement:
- Steering wheel audio controls need a bi-directional seek or scan button
- Interior styling is so-so. Maybe it was all the fake wood.
- Enough with the yellow/green back lighted instruments! Sonata needs to offer the kind of instrument back lighting that the Accord has.
- No nav availability (yet)
- Some exterior colors are too dark. Deepwater Blue looks almost black. Dark Cinnamon lives up to its name (at least the dark part). I was expecting Aquamarine to be more of a light blue, instead it is medium to dark blue.
For the money, I think Hyundai has a winner on its hands. It's definitely on my short list to replace the 2002 Elantra I am currently driving sometime in the next 6-8 months.
He confirmed that the '06 models weren't moving very well in our market, but he said they are selling well in the southern markets. Time will tell.
Anyone have any experience with custom work like this?
Not true. Not everyone has financial myopia and/or insatiable car lust.
so in reality, you'd be a fool to buy the sonata unless you are going to keep it for more than 8 or 9 years.
This is a kind of ridiculous assertion in my opinion. Basically you're saying that a Sonata has no merits over its competition other than starting price, which you say is easily negated by its competitors' superior retained value, which is assumed. You should consider that some people might actually prefer the styling, interior, driving dynamics, etc of the Sonata over its competitors. Some people might feel comfortable with the Sonata's durability and engineering. Perhaps you should consider, in reality of course, that some people might actually think the Sonata is the better car. From that perspective, choosing the Sonata doesn't seem so foolish, does it?
Believer
$1750 for buying a 2005 Sonata and upto $3400 (New Graduate + Hyundai loyalty)
What other cars at this price have the feature standard?
It would be nice if Hyundai was offering a $1500+ owner loyalty discount if/when I decide to trade in my Elantra and buy a Sonata.
Believer
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Could you tell me the name of dealer ship
TIA
I have an elantra 02 and I am happy with the car, but not with HYUNDAI.
I moved to new place after I bought the car and I sent hyundai an address updating form and made a call as well. But I did not get 3 recall letters .
I asked the reason for that and they told me that the mail was bounced. It turns out they still use the old address,(when I buy the car) even though they have my new address.
I also did not get the horse power related mails. For someone who never moves, hyundai is a good choice.