Honda Odyssey vs. Toyota Sienna

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  • samnoesamnoe Member Posts: 731
    "But I just think it's amazing how Toyota can make the Sienna... just as fuel efficient (27mpg vs. 28mpg) without even using VCM...."

    "It's not that amazing. The Sienna weighs about 400 pounds less (almost 10% less) than the Odyssey. And by the way, the '05 Sienna is rated at 26mpg highway, unlike the '04 which was at 27mpg..."


    One more reason - the Sienna will give you the above numbers with premium fuel only. Sure, you can use regular with no problem, but it will slightly hurt mileage.

    And don't forget the 25 hp difference...
  • dannodanno Member Posts: 114
    The reduction in fuel efficiency for 2005 could be attributed to Toyota selling more of the XLE / AWD versions which tend to be heavier and less fuel efficient than the mix Toyota thought they would sell on launch (more CE / LEs). It's just a theory and yes, I did bring up that 3 letter acronym - (AWD)
    Therefore lower sticker numbers.
  • indy93indy93 Member Posts: 97
    Get real, let's hear from someone who has actually used these systems. The Titannic looked great on paper too! .... IBM products are not always fool proof. (or did you think voice rec was invented by Honda)
  • revitrevit Member Posts: 476
    Yeah, the rebates for the Toyota Sienna have probably already begun. Seems Honda is taking alot of Toyota's business...to bad Toyota didn't make safety standard in the Sienna.
  • donleungdonleung Member Posts: 22
    Danno:

    The AWD versions of the Sienna have their own EPA MPG estimates which are lower than the FWD versions.

    The same thing applies to Canadian ratings which are different for the FWD and AWD models.

    It seems all Sienna weights fall within a 55 lb window from low to high trim for each drive configuration (from 4120 to 4175 lbs for FWD models and from 4310 to 4365 lbs for AWD models).

    However, the 8 passenger CE/LE weighs 10 lbs more than the 7 passenger XLE in FWD trim. So selling an 8 passenger model would have more of a detrimental effect than selling an XLE if the weight difference lead to a different fuel economy.
  • hansiennahansienna Member Posts: 2,312
    Another Question: Why is the Kia Sedona the heavy weight but the smallest interior volume?
        Obviously the '05 Sienna EPA ratings are lower than the '04 because the '04 did NOT deliver the EPA ratings in the real world.
        Edmunds long term test Sienna was 16.6 MPG Average, GC ES 17.8 MPG, Quest 18.0 MPG, and THE BEST was the 99 Ody EX at 18.3 MPG.
  • samnoesamnoe Member Posts: 731
    The Sedona uses very much steel. On the upcoming '06 Sedona the curb weight will be reduced.

    http://www.edmunds.com/future/2006/kia/sedona/100458771/preview.h- tml?tid=edmunds.f.typemindex.content.num1.2.*
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,569
    It's cheaper to just add heavy steel pieces to add strenghth than it is to design a light weight component that will do the same job. Guess what Kia did.

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  • midwestfan1midwestfan1 Member Posts: 12
    Thanks for all the great information. For us, too, the choice between the 05 Odyssey and the Sienna was very close, but we took delivery of the 05 Odyssey a couple of days ago.

    Our kids are 9,11 and 13 - past the baby/toddler stage. After making ourselves almost crazy going between the two cars we finally loaded up the kids and took them for a drive in both cars. The cost between similarly equipped cars was tiny (I think $15/mo on a 39 month lease, which is right for us).

    Our kids, who are, like their friends, tall and getting taller, were more comfortable in the Odyssey seats and with the leg room in the second and third seats. I am not sure if there really is more room, if they are just configured differently or just a perception on their part, but that's how they felt!

    Even without the power lift gate (the Odyssey gate is easily lifted and they can do it themselves), there was plenty of "wow" factor in the Odyssey for them. They liked the bigger DVD screen that we will use for trips with the fold flat wireless head phones. Both cars have more cup holders than we will ever use. I ended up liking the front tray v. console. I put my purse under there when driving so it's not in the way.

    I do like the color choices of the Toyota better and there is some plug in the back (115v ?) in the Toyota that my son could plug in his laptop w/o his adapter. But I like the control locations on the Honda. I think the "lazy susan" is kind of weird, I can't imagine what I'd put in there that I wouldn't put somewhere else, but maybe something will come up...
     
    Our Honda salesman was not a jerk, the local Toyota dealer was, so we dealt with the internet Toyota salesman just across the river.

    I am a Toyota fan (I had been happily driving a 02 Sequoia), but am also very happy with the drive and features of the Odyssey. Neither van is perfect, both are nice. We chose seat comfort, leg room and handling over bells and whistles, but either is a good choice.

    Hope my 2 cents worth help!
  • rorrrorr Member Posts: 3,630
    "And don't forget the 25 hp difference..."

    Let's go over the numbers ONE more time, shall we?

    The Sienna XLE has a curb weight of approx. 4165 lbs. Therefore, each one of the 230 hp has to move along 18.1 lbs. (4165/230, otherwise known as a power to weight ratio.) It also has 242 ft.lbs. of torque, which works out to 17.2 lbs of mass to each ft.lb. of torque.

    Now, the Odyssey EX-L has a curb weight of approx. 4537 lbs. Therefore, each one of the 255 hp has to motivate 'only' 17.8 lbs. That is a SLIGHTLY better power/weight ratio. It also has 250 ft.lbs. of torque, which works out to 'hefty' 18.1 lbs. per ft.lb. of torque.

    Therefore, the Ody has a slight hp advantage (17.8 vs. 18.1), whereas the Sienna has a torque advantage (17.2 vs. 18.1).

    Both vehicles are PLENTY powerful enough. Both vehicles are essentially the SAME under real world conditions. Can we move on to another meaningless statistic like the fact the Ody standard tire is 10mm wider?
  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    I keep trying to visualize a mini-van drag race!
  • rorrrorr Member Posts: 3,630
    Next thing I know people will be timing how many seconds the power doors take to close. Or how many turns to tighten the gas caps. I wonder who has the longest wiper blade?
  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    I guess these forums tend to attract this.

    From my position, I find it just amazing what is of utmost importance to some can be of little or no value to others at all.

    What would have been "a nice feature to have" in the past, now becomes a MUST HAVE item.

    Interesting reading in any event...
  • hifisoftwarehifisoftware Member Posts: 69
    I agree.

    Let not talk about horsepower. This is a minivan... It will not handle well (not matter what Honda ads say). Even Accord (a plain vanilla family car) would handle much better then any minivan. If any vans had less then 120hp, then it would be a valid point.

    Let talk about cupholders again instead :-)
    So many cupholders and no lavatory, that's the issue
  • midwestfan1midwestfan1 Member Posts: 12
    Actually, for us, the extra leg room is really important. My husband is 6'4", my 13 year old son(and lots of his friends) is 5'8" and growing quickly. His brother is not far behind.

    So, I guess you are right, the extra leg room in the Odyssey, real, or perceived is a "must have."

    Besides, isn't this forum to compare the two vans?

    I would like to see that drag race, though. Us "soccer moms" (tennis in our case), like to have fun, too ;)
  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    Oh, I guess I meant some of the things that most people don't care about such as 25 cupholders, lazy susans and laser cruise control.

    Extra legroom doesn't fall into that catagory, at least for me because this IS important.

    Others will disagree I suppose.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,569
    both of these vans have ample power for all normal uses. We currently drive a '99 Quest, and both are noticably faster. Even so, the Quest is perfectly adequate to get the job done.

    My wife an I both preferred the Ody 3rd row. The seat belts fit her better, and my legs were jammed up in the Sienna (less head room too). The 2nd row was great in each one.

    I also found the drivers seat in the Ody to be more comfortable. The cushion felt longer (more thigh support), and the seat bottom tilt felt more natural to me. I just felt more comfortable, which is important since I normally drive it on the long trips.

    I also prefer the firmer ride and handling over the softer ride/handling set-up of the Sienna. But, I would drive a Maxima SE instead of a Buick too, so you can tell where my priorities lie.

    Bottom line, both are nice, loaded and will serve a family well. I could probably buy either one and the family will be very happy.

    Just decide what features are most important to you, and buy the van that fits your tastes (or budget) the best. To me, that's probably the Ody EX-L over the XLE #6, since it wins on both counts (what I want, and cheaper).

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • dgoughdgough Member Posts: 8
    I had a $500 deposit on an Ody. We were to take delivery yesterday. My husband and I decided to give Toyota a look. We had tried to purchase a Sienna in the Spring, but the dealer we went to was rude, obnoxious and gave us a rookie salesperson who couldn't manage to scrounge up plates for us to test drive the vehicle. So, we waited patiently for the new Ody.

    Went to another toyota dealer on Friday to give toyota another try and they had an XLE with Option package #8 (nav and DVD) sitting there. The inside looked much nicer than the Ody. The faux wood trim dresses the inside up nicely. Floor mats, cargo nets, cross bars, leather wrapped steering wheel and gear shifter, and fog lamps all were included and not charged extra for (unlike the Ody). The dealership was willing to deal. The ride was very nice. Didn't find it to be soooo inferior to the Honda. The power lift gate was awesome. Again, not on the EX-L trim of the Honda and if we went Touring, I'd have those not so fabulous, try and find them in real life-- PAX tires-- no thanks. I was wondering why at over $30k I was compromising for the Honda? No power lift gate, no leather wraps, first year bumps, dumb plus one seat to store, and no 110 outlets-- and the privilege of paying sticker (or nominally under it) for the Ody.

    No thanks! Bought the Toyota on Friday, love it. Probably would have loved the Ody, it's a nice van and I'm sure voice activated NAVI is cool, but would have missed the remote power lift gate! And since I've never had NAV to begin with, I'm thrilled with this version.
  • hifisoftwarehifisoftware Member Posts: 69
    I agree with you on Honda model mix. It's strange that Honda decided to stick PAX tires on Touring and at the same time remove the spare. Toyota has done it too, but for a reason. Apparently there is no space for a spare in AWD. In Honda case it is just... (I do not know.. madness?) Honda saved few hundred $ at most but made it much less appealing. I would definetly be in market for Touring if it had a spare tire and was few hundreds more expensive.

    I disagree with you on prices comment. Often people talk about prices in relationship to MSRP. Would you feel better if Honda set MSRP for Odyssey at 100k and dealers were offering 50k off MSRP? Of course not. Final cost would be 50k and that's what matters. It's not how much car is discounted from bogus MSRP, it's how much you have to pay to get items that are important to you.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    People either love or hate the faux wood trim.

    NAVI for some is a MUST HAVE and a power liftgate is something most people could care less about.

    The "dumb" plus one seat is a "great feature" to others. and most people would never use a 110 outlet.

    It's great to have choices!
  • keatingfamilykeatingfamily Member Posts: 3
    This has been a terrific forum for us.

    We have a little different priority - the need for an 8 passenger minivan. That restricts us to the Sienna LE (since 8 passenger is not available on the XLE or Ltd) and Odyssey EX. We like the Honda's window shades, 2nd power door, floor storage and little extra punch, but like the Sienna's real 8th seat, 3rd row vent windows and price (at least $2k less).

    We have a 2000 Sienna right now and love it but we have outgrown it with our 4th child. We don't care much about the luxuries - although Nav sounds great - and will probably buy an aftermarket DVD player with a bigger screen.

    We have found a Toyota and Honda dealer that we like and trust, and are torn on our next step. We probably have some time before we have to buy, but could cut the check tomorrow if we could actually make a decision.

    Thanks everyone for your input.
  • rorrrorr Member Posts: 3,630
    The problem comes when there are unique features that you like in BOTH vans. But blaming the manufacturers for not being able to read MY mind and giving me exactly what I want would be a bit self-centered.

    I've just got to figure out which features I care most about (hmmm, do I want that occasional use +1 seat or do I what a power liftgate? Do I want that in-floor storage or do I want a nice center console that I can place in either row?)

    Decisions, decisions, decisions.....
  • lghong67lghong67 Member Posts: 29
    Does anyone have any insights on the installation of an aftermarket dvd player on either vehicle? let me just say that in my limited experience, i've seen some pretty horrific results when the owner has had an aftermarket accessory.

    thanks, lh
  • dgoughdgough Member Posts: 8
    I guess I wrote a little fast. It's not about choices. These are all things Honda doesn't have that for less money I can get on a Toyota Sienna(except for the plus one seat that one published review said might fit a *keebler elf*-- I have kids in car seats that aren't supposed to be put on the plus one). Not to mention, I left out the headlamps that automatically turn on and off and the tire pressure sensor warning system (which, btw, will be required to be standard on all vehicles in 2007). And while it's true that it shouldn't matter about whether I pay "under MSRP" if both vehicles, in the end, end up costing me the same, but it's still the same amount of money for a van with less features than the Sienna.
  • baileybradbaileybrad Member Posts: 33
    We have an '02 Odyssey EX that we are going to trade. We, also, previously owned a '99 Odyssey that we traded in on the '02....that was really back in the days of MSRP.

    Anyways, I notice that the Toyota website now has up the 05 Sienna package information. On the XLE, that we are trying to get educated on...it only goes up to 12 packages, around 5 have of those have a DVD player that we do not need, and 1 of the packages is nothing more than safety items that really should be standard on a van of this stature/quality. Why not roll these features into the price of the vehicle ie., the Ody and just move on.

    One of my questions is on this site, the # of packages available for consideration on the XLE
    goes up to 15 but #'s 8/9/10/11/12 appear to be missing. Any idea, why? We have been talking to a Toyota representative who has not disputed any of my talking numbers ie., invoice pricing. This dealership has offered to sell at 3% over invoice on an '05 Sienna. I have a good feeling about the talks so far...the biggest problem I am having is getting the right match on the packages to then weigh the pricing vs. an Odyssey EX or EX-L.

    We purchased our Honda vans from 2 different dealerships and the one that lost out last time has intimated that MSRP is not a hard price with them. And just today the sales manager at the dealership where we purchased our current '02 van called me because I had mentioned to a service department rep that I was interested in the '05s "when the craziness calmed down". He said while their '05s are pretty much going for sticker that something could be done for us because they want to keep us as a customer.

    I am not an idiot. I know that the trade can spoil any deal. I have purchased enough vehicles to walk away from any potential purchase if I do not feel that it is in everyone's best interests. Buying a vehicle is a business decision and nothing more.

    Our biggest issue with the Honda van is the lack of room on front passenger side. With the Sienna, it is the higher MSRP once you equip the vehicle properly. The packages can force you to pay for things you do not want (moonroof, 17 inch wheels) to get something you do wish to have (rear disc brakes, leather seats). The gas issue with the Toyota worrys me a tad, too. As many others have mentioned there are pluses and some minuses on both vehicles. But for the money, these 2 "boxes with wheels" are, to us, the best available.
  • midwestfan1midwestfan1 Member Posts: 12
    Hope this helps.

    We looked at both models, too. With the features we wanted the leases were within $15 (both were below MSRP, the Honda dealer "got real" when he realized we were serious buyers.)

    We ended up in the Odyssey because my 6'4" husband was more comfortable in the passenger seat. He said the Sienna seat hit him mid-thigh and was uncomfortable. He also has trouble with head room, but even with the sunroof, he is comfortable in the Odyssey.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Thigh support/length was an issue with the Odyssey when the '99 model came out - some people complained about the lack of support in the front seats. Sounds like Honda redid the seats and got it right - anyone have before and after numbers, or numbers for the current Sienna and Ody?

    Steve, Host
  • hansiennahansienna Member Posts: 2,312
    BUT sitting in all seats, they seem as comfortable as the 2001 Ody EX my son owns. The Odyssey seats are the most comfortable of all minivans for me.
         The glove box of the 2005 does NOT seem to intrude into the front passenger knee space on the 2005 Ody as it does on my son's 2001 Ody EX.
         The 2nd row seats of the Sienna are not comfortable for me although the driver, front passenger, and 3rd row seats are.
  • donleungdonleung Member Posts: 22
    There is going to be an 8 passenger Sienna FWD XLE / Limited model in the very near future (as it's already in some Toyota production memos).

    Don
  • hpanhpan Member Posts: 61
    "One of my questions is on this site, the # of packages available for consideration on the XLE
    goes up to 15 but #'s 8/9/10/11/12 appear to be missing. Any idea, why?"

    Package #8 (and probably 9-12 as well) is available to 2005 XLE FWD but not AWD.
  • samnoesamnoe Member Posts: 731
    Good to hear that - and thanks to Honda.

    So Toyota can if they want, they just need competition! :-(
  • baileybradbaileybrad Member Posts: 33
    What I don't understand is on the new Toyota website(the dealership does not have '05 brochures at the present time) only 12 packages are shown for the XLE unless I am looking at something incorrectly. I just want to make sure that I have the correct information ie., the correct invoice pricing for the individual packages so I can deal knowledgeable at the dealership.
  • baileybradbaileybrad Member Posts: 33
    I sure hope that the passenger seat area has been modified from the '02. I am suppose to see an Ocean Mist colored van later this week. I want to see this color in person before making anymore decisions.
  • kxsomrkxsomr Member Posts: 4
    I think real hard about 8 seaters too. But in my case, I have only 2 kids, so most of the time I won't need the 8th seat. But from time to time, I need that 8th seat and I think Ody should give me a nice option to utilize the 8th seat when I need it although I have to say it look really UGLY. MY wife immedietly say no to the Ody EX when she saw the middle seat. After I convince her that we can fold down that seat when we don't need that she feel much better.
    Right now I'm torned between Odyseey EX and Sienna LE with Package#6. Ody is about 1.5K more expensive because I can get some discout on the LE but none on the EX. Any suggesstions?
  • gr5gr5 Member Posts: 3
    I was trying to decide between the BI and AP package of the Sienna LE. The BI has the front side air bags and the curtain air bags for 2,3 rows

    Are these bags really useful , or are they put there just for "competitive pressure". The salesman for some reason seemed to think that this was fluff

    We have a 2 year-old and hopefully 2 more on the way
    what do you think ?
  • minivandriverminivandriver Member Posts: 13
    Is the Honda Care extended warranty for the new Odyssey worth it? $1795 to extend the bumper to bumper from 3/36K to 7/100K. I am looking at the EX-L with DVD. They say it covers the DVD. Anyone have any experience with this?
  • lobsenzalobsenza Member Posts: 619
    I wouldn't buy a van without side curtain airbags or VSC (skid control). They definitely could save your life (or your kids). I was fortunate to drive a vehicle on a closed track (wet) first with VSC and then without VSC. It was unbelievable how much the VSC helped control the vehicle. I was thoroughly amazed and will not buy another vehicle without it. The VSC package on the Sienna includes rear disc brakes, another safety improvement.
  • indy93indy93 Member Posts: 97
    Got a chance to demo a loaded Touring finally... Overall ride was fine slightly firmer than Sienna XLE. Steering control is slightly different both sort of numb. (Sienna mediocre tires, Ody PAX not much feel)Large beam head lights do a good job of lighting things up but are not HID. Sound system good but not as sharp as JBL. Be careful with the front parking sensors there is no head on sensor so if you are inching up on an object in front of you the sensors will not pick it up. Front sensors are directed to the sides at an angle no head on. XLE has full aray sensors front and back. Information system about as useful as XLE both pretty useless. The highlight was the NAVI sort of.... great screen!... voice command good but not awesome. The voice com can understand clear simple english ie. its commands but does mess up or ignore you.. once the salesman tried to change FM stations and VC instead tired to locate XM radio. More likely the VC just did not respond if it did not understand. The VC will also repeat the command given to it before executing the instruction. Lag time is about 4 seconds somewhat longer than the driver or passenger turning a dial or moving a switch. Fun if your are into issuing orders and don't mind less than instant response. Problems, I heard the wind noise others have reported, starting at 40mph...also check out the AC when all three systems are in operation seem to lack cooling given it was 73F ambient and 7:00pm at night. Will give Touring another shot ..still considering it, wife is going to check out the colors (Sage,Black,Slate,Silver and Midnight Blue) Reeves has all 5 color in stock. Slate looks interesting. XLE Ltd. is a strong contender. ($35,900 vs. $38,310)
  • sepasepa Member Posts: 41
    Indy93 - Where are you (Reeves) located? And if you see it, could you post and let us know whether Slate looks like the brochure. Here in PA., the Sage looks like charcoal and some dealers are now calling it (on websites, etc.) "graphite." Thanks.
  • badgerfanbadgerfan Member Posts: 1,565
    "Buying a vehicle is a business decision and nothing more."

    But you buy a new minivan every three years, thus taking a big hit in depreciation, and likely trading in or selling a vehicle with many good miles left on it.

    Buying a new minivan every three years may be a business decision, but it is certainly not a good business decision.
  • racerx1racerx1 Member Posts: 35
    I would say they are a must. A recent study (either by govt or insurance institute) showed that side airbags for the head (most vehicles have ones for the torso) reduce fatalities in a side impact crash by 47%.

    That is a huge difference. While side impact crashes are infrequent, compared to rear-end and head-on collisions, there is less car (no engine or trunk space) to protect you. Side impacts are typical of someone running a red light or stop sign. And with more drivers talking on cellphone and not paying attention, more accidents are likely. Another study showed that the hands-free phone accessories do not help with driver in-attention.

    The IIHS has a few side impact tests for the same car with & without side curtain airbags. Those without were rated Poor as the occupant's head struck the window, possibly causing severe head injury. Vehicle with side curtain was rated Good (best rating).
  • andrewtran71andrewtran71 Member Posts: 840
    Does the memo mention anything about getting a better NAV+RES to compete with the Ody?
  • jsmath5jsmath5 Member Posts: 77
    The Odyssey Navigation system is sick, off the hook, the best currently. Over 600 voice commands, 9" screen. Very detailed and accurate maps, even in rural areas. You hit the button on the steering wheel and say, M-A-I-N; main street comes up, then you say the numbers. Oh yeah, with every Navigation system, you get the rear camera to let you see what's behind you before you smash into it. How fat is that Tran?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?

    Ok Toyota fans, let's hear about your NAV please.
  • jsmath5jsmath5 Member Posts: 77
    Toyota Sienna has 27 diffferent packages or combinations. Honda has 7. Now imagine if you were working at the factory making these things. Which would be easier and faster to make? Easier and faster in the plant equates to better quality and better price on the simpler van. Let's see, does this Sienna get rear disc brakes or not.....I know this Odyssey gets disc brakes all around, as well as standard VSA, 3 row curtain bags, dual stage front bags, side bags...Oh wait, that's standard safety equipment on ALL 05 Odysseys. Safety for everyone. Honda's Hybrid Civic comes 1 way, the Prius has 9 packages. Now if you want something different, you have to order it at the Toyota dealer. Bad for Honda if it isn't in their packaging, good for Toyota for selection, but that selection costs more to make per van. I can make 100 Hondas at $25 each, or I can make 100 Toyotas for $26.25 each. More time in factory = most cost to make/build.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,569
    Toyota isn't making all those 27 at the same time (if at all). They run batches through since it is more efficient.

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  • jsmath5jsmath5 Member Posts: 77
    Back to TMMI Princeton, I sold an Odyssey to a worker there, he said the recall on the gas tamk really screwed things up for a while. Once the van is made and Vin # is assigned, it leaves the plant and is out of production's system, it then goes to Logistics. So, they were putting them on the back Holding lot while waiting on new gas tanks (the tanks were left off every van and they had portable gas cans to move them around after production). Now when they bring the gas tankless van back into the plant to put a new one on, the computer system would not recognize the Vin number or the van, because it was already built and pooped out the back of the plant as finished, that was a Huge programming and interaction nightmare.

    But, in the end they got it all taken care of and things are peachy at Toyota Princeton. Just some info on how well Toyota operates and gets it done.

    Get er dun as the rednecks say.
  • andrewtran71andrewtran71 Member Posts: 840
    That's what I was trying to say before indy93 got pissed off and said:

    "Get real, let's hear from someone who has actually used these systems. The Titannic looked great on paper too! .... IBM products are not always fool proof. (or did you think voice rec was invented by Honda)"
  • jsmath5jsmath5 Member Posts: 77
    Now there is an issue with V E, M P. The system asks you W as in William, you then hit the button and say yes. So you may be doing some manual inputs on the touch screen on letters, it is just faster when the letters sound alike. One other issue is that every single address in the USA is not recognized, meaning your "GO HOME" address may actually have to be your neighbors address.

    Like my 8288 address wasn't recognized, I had to use 8300. But all in all I have played with it, it rocks. How cool is it when the kids friends are in the back, you hit the button....Play DVD....XM Radio Channel 144....Climate Control Balance...Find nearest chinese restaurant...You are a cool dad they go home to mom and dad saying that the Smiths 2005 Odyssey kicks our new Sienna's butt. Had to put that jab in there.

    Over 600, that's over 600 voice recognizable commands.
  • dexdex Member Posts: 42
    I had a chance to try out the NAV on a Touring model this past weekend. My understanding was that when you want to enter a new address, you cannot use voice but must manually enter into the system. However once you have an address entered into the system, you can then use voice commands to bring up that address. I asked my salesperson to confirm this but the look on his face showed he did not know and he answered that I was probably right. Where the NAV was awesome was that you could simply say 'nearest hotel' or 'nearest gas station' and it will provide a list for you and then give you directions once you select one. However my understanding again was that for a new address, you must manually type it into the system using the touch screen. Am I correct ? Regardless, it's still the best NAV system on the market today.
  • jsmath5jsmath5 Member Posts: 77
    You can put them in manually, or say the address. M-A-I-N, 1-2-0-0. That will get you 1200 Main St. Now you have to go to Address, Change State, and Change City, if it's different than your last address you looked for. So if you last address was 145 River Bend drive Ivor KY, you can go to address and put the 1200 Main street in, and it will get you 1200 Main Street in Ivor KY. You will have to go through the change state and city if you want something different.

    Also manually will be way faster that the voice address game. But if it is in already, you can say it and it will come up.....Hope this helps.
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