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When I spoke to local Toyota dealers they said they didnt even have anything yet, but should soon after Frankfurt Auto Show.
Also what are the trannies avaialble and the official Cdn. mpg or litres per hundred K etc if you have handy?
5-speed manual, 4-speed automatic Super ECT (Electronically Controlled Transmission) I haven't found out how the auto differs from the current ECT, but it is NOT a CVT, and almost certainly (98%+ not a "manumatic"). I think it is just an upgrade of the current electronics.
Ratings manual: 6.9/5.5 L/100 km, 41/51 mpg Imperial
Automatic: 7.1/5.8 L/100 km, 40/49 mpg Imperial
If there is anything else, feel free.
The bad news, is that like the Echo almost everything is optional.
I think that was the death of the Echo. Even power steering was optional.
The Scion xA is a great deal when you factor the "extras" in.
Have to wait and see what the dimensions and weight of the Yaris are. The xA looks a lot more upmarket at this point...I was hoping for a little larger xA, but this doesn't look like it.
Length: 150.6"
Height: 60.0"
weight: 2300-2385 lbs.
Now I love the look of the new Yaris. It's got a sleek, athletic look that's both cute and fun, and I'm sure it will be built as solid as a vault, but 32 mpg? Come on! The Larger Corolla and Civic both get better than that!
Someone please tell me that the Yaris will get more that 32 mpg! Does anyone have any other info on this second most important of subjects, the first being build quality and reliability. I would greatly appreciate some good news, because I know that that 32 mpg will haunt my dreams and destroy me.
Does anyone know the expected Canadian mileage for the upcoming Honda Fit (Jazz)???
The manual Echo hatchback was 42/54, but the auto was 40/51, so not MUCH change considering that the Yaris is almost 200 lbs heavier and larger in all dimensions.
It looks like the US version for sure won't have a tachometer, which is somewhat unfortunate. I read somewhere that the Canadian version might have a tach.
As for the options.. yeah, it can make it pricey, but you know I wouldn't mind a car without power steering... as light as that car is it shouldn't be too much of a problem and it would certainly help road feel.
You are right about the wheelbase (I thought it was shorter) but the listed vehicle weight is 2035 lbs for the two door.
Possibly you got your figure from a different source, or that is a "wet" weight. I have noticed weight discrepancies between published figures and Consumer Reports numbers (knowing them, they probably take their cars to truck scales!). I know my 2004 Scion xA was heavier than the Echo, and to good advantage in crosswinds.
How is pricing on Yaris vs. Scion in Canada? Down here, if you are going to option up an Echo, it's cheaper to buy a Scion, even with fixed pricing.
"A model of space-efficiency, the Yaris is a three- or five-door hatchback that boasts about 35 inches of space between front and rear occupants, which is equal to cars, such as the Corolla, in the next biggest segment. There is also up to 26 cubic feet of cargo space available. Like its sibling, the RAV4, the Yaris also has Toyota's "Easy Flat" split/folding/reclining/sliding rear seats that flop flat at the pull of a lever.
The center-mounted instrument panel will probably draw some barbs, but it does allow three gloveboxes to be fitted to the dash, including one directly ahead of the driver. As with the Prius, the Yaris offers the Smart Entry and Start system that allows you to enter the vehicle and start it without removing the key from a pocket or purse.
Big safety features come on this little car. Side-impact airbags are standard, as is ABS with BrakeAssist. Curtain airbags and even a driver knee bag are available as well.
Although no information was available regarding U.S.-specification power, an inline four of 1.5 liters or so generating roughly 100 horsepower is a safe bet. Transmission choices include a five-speed manual and Toyota's Multi-Mode Manual with automatic clutch. A rarity in this segment, the latter can function as an automatic or be shifted sequentially by the driver.
What's Edmunds' Take?
After fielding something of a joke in this segment, the well-rounded Yaris puts Toyota back in the small car game. — John DiPietro"
That's really funny.
Also, has anybody confirmation on this:
"Transmission choices include a five-speed manual and Toyota's Multi-Mode Manual with automatic clutch. A rarity in this segment, the latter can function as an automatic or be shifted sequentially by the driver."
That automatic transmission sure seems like it would be cool. I hope it will be available in Canada.
But if here in Canada we at least get the automatic/clutchless semi-manual, I'll be happy. That, and a tach (which seems to be the case according to people here - I'm curious to know what is their sources, though)...
I wonder why they didn't bring the CVT here, though. I hope Honda will keep it in the Jazz/Fit when it appears in Canada..
I am hoping that Toyota offers the CVT on the four-door sedan version of the Yaris.
By the way, Honda will definitely use the CVT-7 automatic on the FIT/Jazz model for the US market, since that's the only automatic transmission Honda ever used on that model.
I guess they create the illusion of sportiness, but in reality, it's just another automatic that allows you to control when the car shifts. I say just suck it up and learn how to use a clutch and save yourself the cost, weight and technical complexity of the full-on automatic.I've been driving a stick since I got my license and when I have to drive an automatic, I feel like the driving experience is very much dumbed down. Not to mention that on a little engine you're only sapping power with an auto. People always tell me, "oh but in traffic it must be horrible!" Umm... no, actually you don't even realize you're shifting. It becomes a reflex.
CVT is a nice idea but lack of driver education causes companies to do things like put in artificial shift points (how ridiculous). I guess people are thrown off because the car never actually "shifts" and they think something is wrong. My god there are too many stupid people.
Oh by the way, do Canadian cars get those annoying upshift lights like we get here on manual transmissions? What a waste of a light-bulb (and it's distracting).
None of this is really Yaris related is it? Oops :-) Umm... I'm bummed about the lack of 4 door hatch in the US. I guess we're lucky to get a hatch at all.... Ok now it's Yaris related.
I really wonder why we don't see TV and magazine ads explaining CVTs in simpler terms. It would be so easy and solve the problem.
"It never shifts to give you a smoother ride, faster acceleration and better fuel economy. Say hello to the next generation of transmissions!"
Or whatever slogan they come up with...
I'd really have liked a Yaris with CVT...
"Anti-lock brakes, Electronic Brake Distribution and Brake Assist are all standard on Yaris as are dual front and side. Side curtain airbags are available as an option."
"All engines are available with Toyota’s Multi-mode Manual Transmission (M-MT), which utilizes an automatic clutch with a choice of automatic or manual modes."
As for the airbags, it's possible.. But my thinking was that they couldn't let Koreans beat them for too long at having standard side airbags. Similar reasoning with the ABS brakes; since the previous generation Echo Hatchback in Canada had ABS standard, they couldn't very easily make it optional on the Yaris - regressions are usually avoided.
http://www.canadiandriver.com/news/05images/07yaris_3.jpg
No tach.
Interior looks cheap.
Option list contains what is pretty much standard on mine.
However, regardless, its a fresh look and it has more personality than the Echo. It also comes in Red. LOL
The official Toyota Canada announcement went on at great length about improved safety, but made NO mention of side curtains which leads me to believe they are NOT going to be available as they did mention some trivial changes.
" Advanced safety features include outstanding protection for both
occupants and pedestrians. The body was created using Toyota's
Minimum Intrusion Cabin System (MICS) that provides excellent impact
force absorption and dispersion to minimize cabin deformation during
a collision. In addition, the pedestrian-injury-lessening body
structure is designed to reduce head injuries to pedestrians. In
Europe, the Yaris achieved an outstanding Euro NCAP four star rating,
earning 29 out of a maximum of 34 points, making it the safest car in
its class. Yaris is also equipped with Whiplash Impact Lessening
seats, standard airbags and available ABS."
I have the spec sheet in front of me as I type. ABS is standard ONLY on the RS model in Canada. It is also part of the "B package" on the CE/LE models. My spec sheet is current as of today at 4 pm. I too was initially surprised, but that is the official information available to the dealers as of now.
More and more this looks like an Echo replacement not an xA clone (but with the better wheelbase etc.).
Guess we'll have to wait for the next iteration of the Scion xA for something "micro-premium."
The interior and exterior details on the xA were so sharp, the first time I saw it, I traded in my 2003 Civic Couple LX on the spot....
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do you like the re-design of the Scion xA for 2006? Small front and rear detail changes on the body. Stereo controls added to the steering wheel I believe, too.
Very much so. I have to keep reminding myself of the car's shortcomings:
weak aircon;
hard ride;
very weak engine (and I had a stickshift!)
Impeccable build quality and good soundproofing, though. I keep hoping to see a stronger engine in there - it's not even 108 hp anymore, it got re-rated to 103. Despite the fact that there is a lot of technology in that little motor....
Honestly, I was hoping the Yaris would be one size bigger, and the xA would follow....
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
I was there on Saturday and the car was up on a stand and kept locked. Too bad. The blue-ish paint wasn't the most striking either -- the electric blue on the current Echo hatch is far more impactful. Styling is entirely subjective, and to me the Yaris looks more sophisticated/grown-up, the Echo hatch looked more spunky.
http://www.canadiandriver.com/news/050919-3.htm
Keep in mind both the xA and xB are on the same Yaris platform (the first generation platform) but differ about 6" in wheelbase...so it looks like Toyota could expand the wheel base if they wanted to. But I don't think they will, based on the US website previewing the Yaris for the American market. They are apparently keeping the Yaris a little down-scale. Sigh. I like the basic looks much more than the Corolla/Matrix, and was hoping for something with those looks but closer to Corolla in size - at least with a longer wheelbase for a less choppy ride.