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  • sdasda Member Posts: 7,580
    Why must every 50's car have hanging dice from the interior review mirror? ugh

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  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    Yeah, put a motion hula dancer doll on the dash B)
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    That hilariously priced Caddy has a continental kit and fuzzy dice. What would make it a trifecta? Curb feelers? Driver wearing a Hawaiian shirt?
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,284
    fintail said:

    That hilariously priced Caddy has a continental kit and fuzzy dice. What would make it a trifecta? Curb feelers? Driver wearing a Hawaiian shirt?

    Spotlights drilled into the A-pillars, which I despise. Surprised this doesn't have them.

    I suspect the upholstery fabric used on this one is not the style it came with originally.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    Spotlights on both sides even. Maybe a windshield visor too (but sometimes I don't mind those). I'd wager an awful lot you are right about the upholstery. I suspect the seller isn't just trying to break even, but net a big ROI. Good luck.
    ab348 said:



    Spotlights drilled into the A-pillars, which I despise. Surprised this doesn't have them.

    I suspect the upholstery fabric used on this one is not the style it came with originally.

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    edited July 2019
    You know the drill, page one FSBO bounty from the land of old cars:

    Yeller

    Seldom-seen GT

    Has a look, maybe decent price

    Flipper

    Final run

    Picture it: High school parking lot, 1982

    Fins

    Another 80s-ified model

    Few survived so clean

    This has a time warp presence to it

    Proud price, funny damage claim

    Award for best pics of the day

    Shiny frankencar

    T-tops, maybe a fair deal

    Preservation piece

    Chopped sliced and diced

    Early AWD for brand

    Amazing YOM plate, funny spelling

    Coming or going

    Miles, we got em, also all of these seem to have ended up here
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,107
    They restored a 4-door Caddy of that vintage on FantomWorks a while back, spent biiig $$ ($80k?), it was a family memento.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    LOVE that VW'aru! Not $15k worth, but do love it.

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  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    I like that Dart and you're right, not a common sight. Sunbeams in general should really get more attention than just Maxwell Smart's TV drive.
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,685
    qbrozen said:

    LOVE that VW'aru! Not $15k worth, but do love it.

    Agreed. I am not sure what swaped is, but it sounds intriguing. :)
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,347
    I love the VW. Even better if it was a squareBack!

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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,107
    But no cover on that Subaru engine - NOISY!
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,347
    Can’t be any noisier than when the VW motor was in there. At least now you can outrun the noise!

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,284
    I don't see a radiator in that VWbaru?

    Lots of interesting stuff this batch. I like that '79 Chevy pickup. The Toyota PU also.

    The '67 Firebird convertible looks good but may be overpriced, not sure. The Dart GT is rare indeed and probably not a bad buy.

    I preferred the metal front-bumper mid-70s Camaros to the Leno-jaw urethane ones that came later. That one might be an OK buy.

    That's a lot of cash for a Karmann Ghia that "should" run.

    I am not allergic to yellow cars like some people are, but I don't understand the desire to paint them in retina-searing neon shades of yellow. Especially in '60s cars, yellows from the factory were often pastel and soft shades, which I prefer.

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  • OscarOscar Member Posts: 63
    I like that '51 Stude bullet nose and the price is not bad. The Sunbeam Alpines is another story. Nobody wanted these until the price of the Tiger version went nuts. Similar to the case of LeMans, Cutlass, Skylarks...etc. The basis for tribute cars or clones. In their time the motoring press described the Alpines more as cruisers than sport cars. The Tiger was described as having unusual driving dynamics due to the short wheelbase. But hey Carroll Shelby had his name on it so it must be great.
  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    I believe they were kind of a cross between European and American, and yeah, that can have compromises. At different times they included Ford and Chrysler power plants.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    Nice, uploading works again (pic taken Sunday):




  • OscarOscar Member Posts: 63
    berri said:

    I believe they were kind of a cross between European and American, and yeah, that can have compromises. At different times they included Ford and Chrysler power plants.

    The Sunbeam Alpine was a product of the Rootes Group of England. At some point in the mid 60's they contracted Carroll Shelby to do the Tiger which used the small block Ford Windsor. Starting with the 260 v8 engine and later the 289 engine. While the Tiger was still in production Mopar bought the Rootes Group. Mopar was not happy about one of their products being powered by a Ford engine so they killed the car. No Mopar engine was ever used in the Alpine or the Tiger.
  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    The Chrysler engine may have been used on some Alpine cars (perhaps not sold here?) according to Rootes Chrysler website below

    The Tiger ("Alpine V8"), essentially an Alpine with an American V8, was brought out in 1964, and was assembled by Jensen, which used Chrysler V8s in some of its cars.

    https://www.rootes-chrysler.co.uk/car-history/history-sunbeam.html
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,284
    berri said:

    The Chrysler engine may have been used on some Alpine cars (perhaps not sold here?) according to Rootes Chrysler website below

    The Tiger ("Alpine V8"), essentially an Alpine with an American V8, was brought out in 1964, and was assembled by Jensen, which used Chrysler V8s in some of its cars.

    https://www.rootes-chrysler.co.uk/car-history/history-sunbeam.html

    I think that is a case of poor wording on that website. Jensen did indeed use Chrysler V-8s on their own cars like the Interceptor. I think that is what it intended to convey, rather than that they installed some in Alpines.

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  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    You may well be right. Chrysler's involvement in Europe back in those days might best be described as "its complicated" :p
  • OscarOscar Member Posts: 63
    Jensen used Chrysler B and RB engines in the Interceptor. Jensen also did bodies for the big Healeys and Volvo P1800. The only other Rootes/Chrysler connection was that Chrysler sold Rootes cars here in the US including one model that looked like shrunken Barracuda that I think was also called the Alpine . These were what came to be known as captive imports. Around 1970 Chrysler had another line of captive imports and these were sourced from Mitsubishi.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,723
    Car Barn Finder gets a car brought back.
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/classic-cars/tom-of-barn-find-hunter-restores-a-junkyard-country-sedan/ar-AAEwfYC?li=BBnbfcL&ocid=DELLDHP
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  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    For awhile back then Chrysler and Simca were affiliated. Where did their first small import, the Plymouth Cricket come from? I'm pretty sure it was sourced from the UK vice the Dodge Colt's Mitsu roots.
  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    Nice wagon for its time. I think a few years later Ford referred to themselves as the "Wagonmasters".
  • OscarOscar Member Posts: 63
    berri said:

    For awhile back then Chrysler and Simca were affiliated. Where did their first small import, the Plymouth Cricket come from? I'm pretty sure it was sourced from the UK vice the Dodge Colt's Mitsu roots.

    Read about Chryslers adventure with Rootes:
    https://www.allpar.com/cars/adopted/rootes.html
  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    Interesting. I knew a guy in college who drove an old Hillman. It was reliable as far as starting and running, but had a few electrical glitches (Lucas perhaps?). For example, honking the horn made the wipers take an interval.

    The financial history of Chrysler in general is a bit of a trip. If you plotted their postwar financial performance it was a constant series of peaks and valleys. They almost headed into BK with the rushed to production 57's and subsequent 58 recession for example, had another near brush in the first half of the sixties. Iaccoca's bailout shouldn't have been surprising when you look back really.
  • steine13steine13 Member Posts: 2,825
    Here's one shifty would have liked. But everyone can appreciate the beauty of this listing.
    https://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/cto/d/dearborn-2000-porsche-boxster/6937426129.html

    There is so much to like here, starting with the beautiful streetscape, the lack of any mention of intermediate-shaft bearings, and then you get to the 'rebuilt' title. Pure Michigan ;)
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,685
    Vandalism? In Dearborn?! Say it isn't so! :(
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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,723
    Why would you need air fresheners in the dash vents in a convertible? :)
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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,284
    explorerx4 said:

    Why would you need air fresheners in the dash vents in a convertible? :)

    When driving past a sewage treatment facility, a meat or fish rendering plant or an oil refinery? :worried:

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 16,951
    Beans make you fart... you have a convertible
    (Movie reference)

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    Big multi-car crash up in Everett yesterday evening (caused by a drunk in a speeding pickup, IIRC) - sad end to a pretty old beast, although someone might piece it back together as a project car:

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    The Saab fared much worse. No fatalities, although some serious injuries.
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,284
    What a shame.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    I would imagine they had classic car insurance, in which case it will get repaired.

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  • gsemikegsemike Member Posts: 2,412
    qbrozen said:

    I would imagine they had classic car insurance, in which case it will get repaired.

    Even Hagerty will total a car if that's what the numbers dictate
  • gsemikegsemike Member Posts: 2,412
    1950-1990 on Long Island

    https://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/d/bay-shore-chevy-maibu-classic-1974-only/6940464077.html Nobody loves these but I guess it's a decent beater/cruiser for no money

    https://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/d/bellmore-1975-oldsmobile-delta-88/6939988978.html Seller clearly no longer finds old cars fun

    https://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/d/rocky-point-65-ford-galaxie-500/6938977361.html This vert needs mechanical work but looks much better

    https://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/d/miller-place-1977-mgb/6939568936.html Scary rust. If this was painted white instead of maroon, it would be haded to the crusher already

    https://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/d/east-islip-1977-mgb/6939125353.html Much better MG option

    https://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/d/ronkonkoma-1964-chevy-chevelle-malibu/6938904104.html Some wagon mania at play here, but pretty cool driver. Needs more pics.

    https://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/d/patchogue-1969-nova-custom/6937223117.html Put a lot of work into it, but many many weird decisions. Price is nuts

    https://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/d/saint-james-1964-chevy-4x4/6936323821.html Given old truck mania, this may be decent but wouldn't want to deal with the 6 cyl

    https://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/d/sag-harbor-classic-1972-bmw-2002/6935552191.html Looks very nice but prcey

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    gsemike said:

    qbrozen said:

    I would imagine they had classic car insurance, in which case it will get repaired.

    Even Hagerty will total a car if that's what the numbers dictate
    Of course. But I'm pretty sure that car ain't totaled, from what I can see.

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  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    The amount of chrome could become an issue maybe
  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    The last big Olds convertible
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    I suppose if the frame isn't bent on the Caddy, it might not be beyond redemption for a DIYer.

    Those Lawn Guyland cars make me thankful for the lack of rust here.
  • gsemikegsemike Member Posts: 2,412
    fintail said:

    I suppose if the frame isn't bent on the Caddy, it might not be beyond redemption for a DIYer.

    Those Lawn Guyland cars make me thankful for the lack of rust here.

    Really gotta see it from the drivers side which took the worst of it
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    edited July 2019
    A few spare minutes, a little menagerie from CL FSBO pre-2000 Page 1:

    Commemorative Edition

    Heavy

    Nice price

    Dedication and devotion

    Great colors, what a price

    Useful truck

    Stude optimism

    Cal look

    Radwood eligible

    Cool interior, these always seem to have questionable wheels

    Plush

    The Cadillac of minivans

    Two doors

    Nice looking beast
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    I could go for the 735.
    Price on that GMC 2500 is just silly.

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  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,284
    I'll take the GMC Camper Special, what a nice truck. It needs a steering wheel but they make repros now or any number of aftermarket ones would fit too.

    The little Datsun pickup is a screaming deal, I'd buy that in a second. You're so lucky to have those still around out there in the land of no road salt.

    The Chevelle SS convertible is gorgeous.

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  • gsemikegsemike Member Posts: 2,412
    I like the wheels on the Galaxie

    That GMC looks nice but how could he not do anything about that steering wheel. Stands out like a sore thumb
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,107
    edited July 2019
    How hard would it be to get a stock air cleaner for that Galaxie? Modern ones don’t look right.
  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,284
    texases said:

    How hard would it be to get a stock air cleaner for that Galaxie? Modern ones don’t look right.

    True for virtually any vintage car. I could do just fine without ever seeing another chrome Edelbrock or Moroso open element air cleaner.

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  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,685
    There is a very practical reason for those open air cleaners.... BREATHING! Some of those vintage ones constricted airflow so badly on those engines that it is a wonder then went anywhere at all. I cut gaps in the top side of my '69 C20's air prison, so that it looks somewhat like a tripod, and I swear it must have doubled the torque on the engine. The day after I did this, we drove it on I-90 over the Rockies in Montana, and it was able to pull/accelerate up every grade the highway could throw at it, whereas before it would struggle up those same grades.
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  • gsemikegsemike Member Posts: 2,412
    xwesx said:

    There is a very practical reason for those open air cleaners.... BREATHING! Some of those vintage ones constricted airflow so badly on those engines that it is a wonder then went anywhere at all. I cut gaps in the top side of my '69 C20's air prison, so that it looks somewhat like a tripod, and I swear it must have doubled the torque on the engine. The day after I did this, we drove it on I-90 over the Rockies in Montana, and it was able to pull/accelerate up every grade the highway could throw at it, whereas before it would struggle up those same grades.

    And also with the aftermarket carb, there could be fit issues with the stock air cleaner
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