Project Cars--You Get to Vote on "Hold 'em or Fold 'em"

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 54,999
    It's a 64, which also happens to be final year MB used wide whites on mass market models. There are effectively no sheetmetal differences in fintails through the production run - a fender or door off a car built in 1959 will fit one built in 1967. The differences are primarily mechanical, with a few trim pieces most likely only noticed by an enthusiast.
    tjc78 said:

    @fintail I’m sure you have told us, but what year is it?

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 54,999
    Another time machine newspaper snippet - recently went back to roughly this day in 1983 - no vehicle images, but some fun stuff to read (should zoom). This also shows the "Dish Man" character that I didn't just see in a fever dream.

    What's most interesting here? Subaru "coupe" could be a real unicorn if one of the hardtops (even the 2 door sedan style is a hen's tooth), pink Caddy could be fun, Olds 98 diesel was probably rare even then:


  • bhill2bhill2 Member Posts: 2,310
    Apropos of absolutely nothing, that would mean that it came out about 2 weeks before my first date with the woman who would become my wife. The date went well. Now back to our regularly scheduled program.

    2009 BMW 335i, 2003 Corvette cnv. (RIP 2001 Jaguar XK8 cnv and 1985 MB 380SE [the best of the lot])

  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaMember Posts: 16,994
    I wonder how abused that poor '71 Monaco must have been to be advertised at $395.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTMember Posts: 17,482
    Freshened up the peanut butter in the traps before we left for about a week.
    Was rewarded with another mouse caught in a trap.
    No evidence of one up in the cowl area where I removed a nest a few weeks ago.
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  • gsemikegsemike Long Island, NYMember Posts: 2,169

    Freshened up the peanut butter in the traps before we left for about a week.
    Was rewarded with another mouse caught in a trap.
    No evidence of one up in the cowl area where I removed a nest a few weeks ago.

    Just saw in another thread that dryer sheets can be effective to keep them away. Guy had them stuffed in the tailpipes and around the engine bay
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 45,955
    I had no idea that the Pacer still had 3 on the tree. That would have to be changed!

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  • bhill2bhill2 Member Posts: 2,310
    stickguy said:

    I had no idea that the Pacer still had 3 on the tree. That would have to be changed!

    But stick; it has o/d. Isn’t that as good as, like, a 5-speed? I mean, you gotta think outside the box, right?

    2009 BMW 335i, 2003 Corvette cnv. (RIP 2001 Jaguar XK8 cnv and 1985 MB 380SE [the best of the lot])

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTMember Posts: 17,482
    A Pontiac Lemans wagon. Probably uncommon when new.
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  • gsemikegsemike Long Island, NYMember Posts: 2,169
    stickguy said:

    I had no idea that the Pacer still had 3 on the tree. That would have to be changed!

    Only car I ever drove w a 3 on the tree was a 55 Belair. Total deal breaker. The throws on that thing were so long I have to sit forward in the seat and put my shoulder into it
  • gsemikegsemike Long Island, NYMember Posts: 2,169

    A Pontiac Lemans wagon. Probably uncommon when new.

    Price as a restoration candidate is steep but could maybe work as a rat rod. At the least, a lot of good parts are there. It would be interesting to see what pieces are exclusive to the wagon or borrowed from an el camino
  • gsemikegsemike Long Island, NYMember Posts: 2,169
    What's happening on Long Island - searching 1960-90


    Chevelle SS Clone This looks decent given the current market for Chevelle's but whoever installed those fender badges should be fired. Presents as a decent car but you see sloppiness like that and the turn signal grilles and have to be concerned

    This eldo could be good if it really is just a head gasket and you are willing to deal with the guy

    Nice Lesabre w dear price Can get work as a movie car but still too much

    He's saying this is a factory package?

    Mercedes 280S Looks very nice. Not sure about the price

    Drag Nova What a time warp

    280ZX Stick is a big plus, but expect seller is ahead of the market

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTMember Posts: 17,482
    That Eldo looks like it has a bigger leak than just a head gasket. Just kidding, of course.
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 45,955
    I like that ZX, though up close pictures indicated it might need a lot more work than expected. But a cool car.

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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 20,141
    I like the guy with the blown head gasket Eldorado. “I don’t want to answer any question, come pick it up”

    What a salesman. :s

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 54,999
    280S was the basic S-class (carbureted), which doesn't help value. I assume it is really 112K and has been taken care of. Price is a few grand high, but if it is really good and has no needs, not insanely far off.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 54,999
    The 68 Fairlane my dad had in the 90s was a 3 on the tree (289). He loved it. I found it to be a real chore, especially as the car also had manual steering and manual brakes.

    Back in the day he also had maybe an 85 F150, I know it was the big I6, I swear it was a column shift manual too.
    gsemike said:

    stickguy said:

    I had no idea that the Pacer still had 3 on the tree. That would have to be changed!

    Only car I ever drove w a 3 on the tree was a 55 Belair. Total deal breaker. The throws on that thing were so long I have to sit forward in the seat and put my shoulder into it
  • sdasda Indian Land, SCMember Posts: 5,737
    The three on the tree on my 62 Galaxie had a precise feel to it. The only challenge could be downshifting back to first gear if the car wasn't fully stopped as it had a non-syncro first gear. I did learn to double clutch when necessary.

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  • gsemikegsemike Long Island, NYMember Posts: 2,169
    stickguy said:

    I like that ZX, though up close pictures indicated it might need a lot more work than expected. But a cool car.

    I'm thinking it probably is a 10 footer but in these parts, they mostly all rusted away decades ago
  • gsemikegsemike Long Island, NYMember Posts: 2,169

    I like the guy with the blown head gasket Eldorado. “I don’t want to answer any question, come pick it up”

    What a salesman. :s

    That's why I level set, if you want to deal with him

    Hey, can I have your address? No way!!!!
  • gsemikegsemike Long Island, NYMember Posts: 2,169
    fintail said:

    The 68 Fairlane my dad had in the 90s was a 3 on the tree (289). He loved it. I found it to be a real chore, especially as the car also had manual steering and manual brakes.

    Back in the day he also had maybe an 85 F150, I know it was the big I6, I swear it was a column shift manual too.

    gsemike said:

    stickguy said:

    I had no idea that the Pacer still had 3 on the tree. That would have to be changed!

    Only car I ever drove w a 3 on the tree was a 55 Belair. Total deal breaker. The throws on that thing were so long I have to sit forward in the seat and put my shoulder into it
    I think that was a 300 ci straight six
  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaMember Posts: 16,994
    sda said:

    The three on the tree on my 62 Galaxie had a precise feel to it. The only challenge could be downshifting back to first gear if the car wasn't fully stopped as it had a non-syncro first gear. I did learn to double clutch when necessary.

    I could neither forgive nor understand why Ford in that era left the column shift rod exposed on those cars so equipped rather than putting the mechanism inside a shift bowl cover like other makes had done.

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  • sdasda Indian Land, SCMember Posts: 5,737
    ab348 said:

    sda said:

    The three on the tree on my 62 Galaxie had a precise feel to it. The only challenge could be downshifting back to first gear if the car wasn't fully stopped as it had a non-syncro first gear. I did learn to double clutch when necessary.

    I could neither forgive nor understand why Ford in that era left the column shift rod exposed on those cars so equipped rather than putting the mechanism inside a shift bowl cover like other makes had done.
    You're right, it had a cheap unfinished look to it. The interior of the Galaxie (base) was nothing special.

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  • andres3andres3 Southern CAMember Posts: 13,149
    edited April 28
    Having my indy shop put on 034's specialty fixed camber kit plates to add an additional -1.4% camber on the front wheels/tires. Should make my TTS just THAT much faster in the twisties without wearing out the outside shoulder of sticky tires. Can't wait to test them out, because being super fast isn't fast enough. Will be realigned of course, along with fresh motor oil.

    They raised their hourly rate, because like everyone else, inflation. Should have had the work done before April.

    0304 has an excellent engineering reputation in the after-market go-fast world of VW/Audi.
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  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaMember Posts: 16,994
    andres3 said:

    Having my indy shop put on 034's specialty fixed camber kit plates to add an additional -1.4% camber on the front wheels/tires. Should make my TTS just THAT much faster in the twisties without wearing out the outside shoulder of sticky tires.

    Why do you think the added camber will not wear out the tire shoulders? Especially if they are soft, sticky tires, I dunno how you could avoid that.

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  • andres3andres3 Southern CAMember Posts: 13,149
    edited April 28
    ab348 said:

    andres3 said:

    Having my indy shop put on 034's specialty fixed camber kit plates to add an additional -1.4% camber on the front wheels/tires. Should make my TTS just THAT much faster in the twisties without wearing out the outside shoulder of sticky tires.

    Why do you think the added camber will not wear out the tire shoulders? Especially if they are soft, sticky tires, I dunno how you could avoid that.
    Negative camber. The tires under hard use naturally wear the outter edges more in this car with its current suspension geometry, but the added negative camber will help mitigate that.

    Under normal use I should get more inner tire wear, but that's never been an issue with the way I drive this Audi. But the main point isn't wear, it's improved handling and traction.
    '15 Audi Misano Red Pearl S4, '16 Audi TTS Daytona Gray Pearl, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 13,761
    edited May 8

    Rare to see an all black Mark V. Those usually either have grey or red interiors.

    The Savoy could turn some heads on the cheap.

    Maybe I’m nuts but $12,500 doesn’t seem too crazy for the IROC.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 45,955
    the red budget SL seems like a pretty good deal overall. Looks like a nice car.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 31,040

    Dang, I like that Jag quite a bit

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  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaMember Posts: 16,994
    stickguy said:

    the red budget SL seems like a pretty good deal overall. Looks like a nice car.

    I thought the same. Cars don't rust in Idaho, do they? At least not much.

    Both the Buicks are pretty good deals too I think.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 31,040

    This is great. We make fun of the “only needs…” ads, but this one tops them all.

    '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '21 WRX, '20 S90 T6, '22 4xE. 62-car history and counting! MB Sprinter and '92 Nissan Gloria on the way!

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 45,955

    Good news. The starter should be easy to get to, with no front end.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTMember Posts: 17,482
    I saw a video of the starter in a Sequoia being changed. It was under the intake manifold.
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 45,955
    Car wizard did that in a Lexus version. Weird place. At least they seem to last a long time.

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  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaMember Posts: 16,994

    I saw a video of the starter in a Sequoia being changed. It was under the intake manifold.

    Toyota taking lessons from the Cadillac Northstar.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 31,040
    Just imagine the life this has led in the hands of an owner who can't afford even just an oil change.


    '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c, '21 WRX, '20 S90 T6, '22 4xE. 62-car history and counting! MB Sprinter and '92 Nissan Gloria on the way!

  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaMember Posts: 16,994
    Soon to need a new engine.

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  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaMember Posts: 16,994
    My buddy with the 3 '71 Cutlasses and '87 Grand National who moved up-country has gone largely into radio silence with me and others here in town who used to be regular recipients of his communications. His '71 Cutlass SX convertible has been ensconced at a restoration shop for most of the last year and must be racking up bills approaching 6 digits by now. Meanwhile, after having a rather lavish 5-car garage/shop built shortly after moving up there, he added a large paved parking pad out back and at last communication was talking about building another garage-type structure. Not sure what the current status of that is. But yesterday we stumbled across a FB post showing his latest move.



    He had been making noises about '60s Chevys for a while now which none of us could quite understand, but to each his own. This one is a 283/Powerglide, drum brakes of course, and the usual early '60s steering and handling. His post says it does have power windows and seat which is always important to him. I don't understand it, but it's his money (he seems to have lots now) and I guess this makes him happy.

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  • sdasda Indian Land, SCMember Posts: 5,737
    I like the color of that Chevy and appears to be in nice shape and stock which I very much prefer.

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  • tjc78tjc78 South JerseyMember Posts: 13,761
    edited May 24

    That silver Vic is so clean and the mileage is believable.

    The Mark colors are just awful.

    I really like the 96 Olds. It’s like a grown up Grand Prix GTP with the 3.4. IMO Olds had the best interiors of the GM clones. They even had their own double din stereos and HVAC controls.

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  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaMember Posts: 15,868
    fintail said:
    This would be a solid buy, I think. I suspect the owner is spot on in his analysis of the steering issue (bad hose/s).
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  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 20,141
    xwesx said:

    fintail said:
    This would be a solid buy, I think. I suspect the owner is spot on in his analysis of the steering issue (bad hose/s).
    Makes you wonder why he didn’t replace them himself after being willing to do all the other work.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 45,955
    Gotta know when to fold ‘em.

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  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaMember Posts: 15,868

    xwesx said:

    fintail said:
    This would be a solid buy, I think. I suspect the owner is spot on in his analysis of the steering issue (bad hose/s).
    Makes you wonder why he didn’t replace them himself after being willing to do all the other work.
    As someone who has replaced such hoses, I don't wonder that at all. It is quite a pain in the butt, and "stiff steering" is something most people can live with, at least for a time.
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  • texasestexases Member Posts: 10,058
    I just wonder if it's actually hoses, or a bad pump.
    The high pressure hose on my ES300 was such a bear to replace I had the dealer do it. Not like old Detroit iron.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaMember Posts: 15,868
    edited May 27
    Well, that's the thing. You kinda wonder how it can be the hoses when they don't leak and they look fine from the outside. However, power steering fluid is fairly caustic on the hosing, and they can start flaking apart on the inside and basically clog up the ports on the ends of the hoses.

    I was talking with a guy about my old plow truck, telling him how I needed to replace or rebuild the rack because it didn't work even when everything indicated it should, and he said, "it's your hoses." I expressed doubt. He reiterated, "Don't even waste any more time on it! Replace your hoses. Trust me, you'll thank me later." Now, for this old beast, the hoses weren't cheap or easy to obtain, but I went ahead and did it, and, if I ever see him again, I'll surely thank him!

    After I collected all four hoses, I spent a few hours installing them (much easier on my plow truck than something like this Quest, but still a PITA) and, what do you know? The power steering worked perfectly (and has every since - no leaks, nothing. Just works).
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