BMW X5 40e - Lease Question

lisat91403lisat91403 Member Posts: 165
edited November 2017 in BMW
- Can I please have the MF and RV (36/15) for this particular model?

- I understand there is a $3000 rebate, correct? Does that go to cap cost reduction?

- Is there also a $1500 loyalty credit, and if so, what model year BMW do you need to have to qualify? And do you need to trade it in in order to get the credit?

- Would I also be able to use a $1000 fleet (employer) discount on top of the others?

- Any idea what the fleet/corporate MF discount might be?

Thanks!

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 238,609

    - Can I please have the MF and RV (36/15) for this particular model?

    - I understand there is a $3000 rebate, correct? Does that go to cap cost reduction?

    - Is there also a $1500 loyalty credit, and if so, what model year BMW do you need to have to qualify? And do you need to trade it in in order to get the credit?

    - Would I also be able to use a $1000 fleet (employer) discount on top of the others?

    - Any idea what the fleet/corporate MF discount might be?

    Thanks!

    .00138 and 56%
    $3000 lease credit is available
    No information on loyalty incentives
    I think the fleet discount can be added to the lease credit
    No information on fleet / corporate discounts to MF

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  • lisat91403lisat91403 Member Posts: 165
    Thank you! I found a lease credit online...looks like it might be for those who have a lease or loan ending. I will research further. Thanks!
  • bluetincanbluetincan Member Posts: 16
    edited September 2016
    Seems like BMW is trying to move all remaining 2016 40e's.

    Do you have the latest MF and RV's? Also, do you have the latest incentives? Looking at 15k/yr mileage.

    Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 238,609

    Seems like BMW is trying to move all remaining 2016 40e's.

    Do you have the latest MF and RV's? Also, do you have the latest incentives? Looking at 15k/yr mileage.

    Thanks!

    .00136 and 56%. $2000 option allowance and $3500 lease credit.

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  • budjevinbudjevin Member Posts: 9
    Hello, and thank you for your help.

    Looking for MF and RV on 2016 40e for November in NY/NJ on a 10k/12k lease for 36mos
    Any incentives or lease cash or rebates?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 233,481
    budjevin said:

    Hello, and thank you for your help.

    Looking for MF and RV on 2016 40e for November in NY/NJ on a 10k/12k lease for 36mos
    Any incentives or lease cash or rebates?

    .00134 MF and 57%/56% residual
    $3500 lease credit
    $2000 option allowance

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  • orion7701orion7701 Member Posts: 8
    Hello,

    Can you please post the numbers for 2017 40e 36 months 10k per year. Please also confirm any available incentives in December.

    Thank you.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 238,609
    orion7701 said:

    Hello,

    Can you please post the numbers for 2017 40e 36 months 10k per year. Please also confirm any available incentives in December.

    Thank you.

    .00134 and 56%. $3000 lease credit

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  • flaviafacieflaviafacie Member Posts: 9
    Hi there, could I have the MF and RV for a 2016 X5 40 eDrive 10K miles, 36 months please?

    Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 233,481

    Hi there, could I have the MF and RV for a 2016 X5 40 eDrive 10K miles, 36 months please?

    Thanks!

    .00134 MF and 57% residual.
    $2000 option allowance + $3500 lease credit.

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  • bmwfanatic3bmwfanatic3 Member Posts: 7
    This month's MF and RV please. Thanks
    Also are these option allowances applicable to loaner leases?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 238,609

    This month's MF and RV please. Thanks
    Also are these option allowances applicable to loaner leases?

    You're asking about the X5 40e?

    What lease term and how many miles per year?

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  • bmwfanatic3bmwfanatic3 Member Posts: 7
    36 Months / 12K Miles Yes for X5 40E..Thanks
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 233,481

    36 Months / 12K Miles Yes for X5 40E..Thanks

    2016: .00134 MF and 53% residual. $2000 option allowance + $3000 lease credit
    2017: .00134 MF and 55% residual. $3000 lease credit.

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  • sanramon40esanramon40e Member Posts: 6
    kyfdx said:

    36 Months / 12K Miles Yes for X5 40E..Thanks

    2016: .00134 MF and 53% residual. $2000 option allowance + $3000 lease credit
    2017: .00134 MF and 55% residual. $3000 lease credit.

    The following link shows that option allowance is also available for 2017 model. Can someone confirm it please?

    https://www.bmwusa.com/special-offers/lease.2017-X5-xDrive40e-iPerformance.bayareabmw.html

    thank you,
    Kn.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 233,481

    kyfdx said:

    36 Months / 12K Miles Yes for X5 40E..Thanks

    2016: .00134 MF and 53% residual. $2000 option allowance + $3000 lease credit
    2017: .00134 MF and 55% residual. $3000 lease credit.

    The following link shows that option allowance is also available for 2017 model. Can someone confirm it please?

    https://www.bmwusa.com/special-offers/lease.2017-X5-xDrive40e-iPerformance.bayareabmw.html

    thank you,
    Kn.
    I see that in the fine print, but I don't think it actually applies to the 2017 model.
    I have a breakdown of the advertised lease deal on the 2017, and it doesn't show the $2000.
    They get to the price with a $3253 discount from the dealer, in addition to the $3000 lease credit and the $3500 CAP reduction from the customer.

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  • bluecyclonebluecyclone Member Posts: 37
    Hello do you have access to an X5 40e invoice shee?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 238,609

    Hello do you have access to an X5 40e invoice shee?

    We do not - use the "make / model / year" pull downs at the top of the page to link to the price tools.

    We suggest you target 7% off MSRP, before incentives.

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  • helpmeleasehelpmelease Member Posts: 3
    Can I please get the base MF & RV for 36 month 10/12k lease for 2017 X5 40e.

    Are there any incentives?
    for someone who has a current BMW lease, are there additional loyalty incentives.

  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 238,609

    Can I please get the base MF & RV for 36 month 10/12k lease for 2017 X5 40e.

    Are there any incentives?
    for someone who has a current BMW lease, are there additional loyalty incentives.

    .00151 and 58% / 57%

    $5000 total lease incentives

    No information on loyalty

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  • save1982save1982 Member Posts: 38
    Michaell, Can you give me the Current rates and incentives on a 17 X5 40e 10/12k in Nashville? I am trying to close a deal today.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 238,609
    save1982 said:

    Michaell, Can you give me the Current rates and incentives on a 17 X5 40e 10/12k in Nashville? I am trying to close a deal today.

    .00152 and 58% / 57%; $6000 lease credit.

    These are the new program numbers, which expire on 2 October.

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  • save1982save1982 Member Posts: 38
    Michaell, thanks for your help on this one. I signed the deal tonight. 17 X5 40E MSRP $73,720, Discount $8459, Rebate $6000, MF .00152. $0 at signing $750mo 36/10k tax included. all in all I feel that it was a good deal.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 238,609
    save1982 said:

    Michaell, thanks for your help on this one. I signed the deal tonight. 17 X5 40E MSRP $73,720, Discount $8459, Rebate $6000, MF .00152. $0 at signing $750mo 36/10k tax included. all in all I feel that it was a good deal.

    Congrats!

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  • sktrojansktrojan Member Posts: 31
    Hello everyone:

    Does anyone have any pointers/advice on purchasing a used X5 edrive? I found a certified 2016 X5 eDrive for about $47,995 with about 13,500 miles and based on its condition, seems to be in good shape and thus a good deal. Given it only has about two years worth of warranty, I'm not sure if this is a gamble given 1) it will be a used hybrid 2) its a used BMW.

    Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks in-advance for your time.
  • NathanCrumbackNathanCrumback Administrator Posts: 508
    @sktrojan, certified is nice. It should have more coverage than just two year, right? It's the remainder of the factory warranty plus a year/unlimited miles (http://cpo.bmwusa.com/protection).


    I wouldn't be worried about the battery, I would just be worried about the costs of maintenance on a BMW. BMW/Mercedes/Audi are all expensive to maintain but if you budget for it and are prepared to pay that for a premium used vehicle, then go for it. It only gets an estimated 14 miles then when it switches to gas, it has a combined estimated average around 24 mpgs. I'm not sure if the eDrive is worth the premium for such low numbers but that is my personal opinion.
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  • dj2006dj2006 Member Posts: 93
    Hi
    Can I get the new numbers for a 2017 Q7 2.0 10 and 12K miles /36 month? Also any incentives still available?
    Do you also have the same info for the 3.0?
    Thanks for your help!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 233,481
    dj2006 said:

    Hi
    Can I get the new numbers for a 2017 Q7 2.0 10 and 12K miles /36 month? Also any incentives still available?
    Do you also have the same info for the 3.0?
    Thanks for your help!

    Sure.. just post your questions in the Audi Q7 discussion, here:
    https://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/38810/audi/q7/2017-audi-q7-lease-deals-and-prices#latest

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  • dj2006dj2006 Member Posts: 93
    Sorry about that! I also did want the new numbers for the x5-40e too. 2017 with 10K and 12K / 36months. And current incentives. In So Cal.
    Thanks!
  • jared1000jared1000 Member Posts: 20
    dj2006 said:

    Sorry about that! I also did want the new numbers for the x5-40e too. 2017 with 10K and 12K / 36months. And current incentives. In So Cal.
    Thanks!

    Yes, please post 2018 x5 40e model 36/10 and 36/12 and any incentives as well. Thanks
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 233,481
    edited October 2017
    dj2006 said:

    Sorry about that! I also did want the new numbers for the x5-40e too. 2017 with 10K and 12K / 36months. And current incentives. In So Cal.
    Thanks!

    .00152 MF and 58%/57% residual
    $6000 lease credit

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 233,481
    jared1000 said:

    dj2006 said:

    Sorry about that! I also did want the new numbers for the x5-40e too. 2017 with 10K and 12K / 36months. And current incentives. In So Cal.
    Thanks!

    Yes, please post 2018 x5 40e model 36/10 and 36/12 and any incentives as well. Thanks
    .00152 MF and 59%/58% residual.
    $3000 lease credit

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  • yuanfen888yuanfen888 Member Posts: 14
    edited November 2017
    Would appreciate your input:
    Have an offer in Los Angeles for 2017 X5 40e

    MSRP $63,895
    Selling Price $57,531.11
    Lease Credit: $6000
    Total Cap Cost: $51,914
    MF: .00192 (they are saying they bump up .00152 + .0004 "to supply additional revenue" since they discounted the car so much. Am I getting taken advantage here?)
    Purchase Option: $36,030.85 (It appears low. Can they manipulate the residual? This is a 56.4% residual. Shouldn't this be 58%? There are 4616 miles on the car which might be the reason for reduced residual?)
    36mo/10k Lease
    Payment $610.05/mo before taxes

    Drive-offs
    $925 Acq Fee
    $80 doc fee
    $457 registration fee
    $11 Flat add/County fee
    $7 Tire fee
    $29 Electronic Filing fee
    $20 Smog abatement Fee
    $685.47 Upfront Taxes
    And first month payment

    24 hr time limit on this deal (of course)
    Thank you for your help!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 233,481

    Would appreciate your input:
    Have an offer in Los Angeles for 2017 X5 40e

    MSRP $63,895
    Selling Price $57,531.11
    Lease Credit: $6000
    Total Cap Cost: $51,914
    MF: .00192 (they are saying they bump up .00152 + .0004 "to supply additional revenue" since they discounted the car so much. Am I getting taken advantage here?)
    Purchase Option: $36,030.85 (It appears low. Can they manipulate the residual? This is a 56.4% residual. Shouldn't this be 58%? There are 4616 miles on the car which might be the reason for reduced residual?)
    36mo/10k Lease
    Payment $610.05/mo before taxes

    Drive-offs
    $925 Acq Fee
    $80 doc fee
    $457 registration fee
    $11 Flat add/County fee
    $7 Tire fee
    $29 Electronic Filing fee
    $20 Smog abatement Fee
    $685.47 Upfront Taxes
    And first month payment

    24 hr time limit on this deal (of course)
    Thank you for your help!

    Correct.. residual is reduced to account for the current mileage. ($0.25 per mile)
    Most BMW dealers attempt to markup the money factor. Once I get a selling price I'm happy with, I don't accept money factor markups, unless the price is reduced to account for it.
    That money factor markup adds $35/mo, pre-tax.

    Your drive-off amount can be whatever you want it to be. Of course, less drive-off equals higher payment, but at the minimum, I'd want to roll in the acquisition fee and upfront taxes. Rolling in $1600 adds $48/mo, pre-tax.

    Selling price? Adding back in the $1154 residual reduction, the discount is about 8% of MSRP. That would be pretty good on a brand new car, but for a service loaner/demo? I'd want more than that. I'd guess they have at least another $2000-$3000 to work with. For sure, at the given price, it doesn't merit a money factor increase.

    My stretch goal on this vehicle?
    1st payment and $6XX DMV/dealer fees due at signing. ($1300 or so)
    $600/mo.+tax.

    Good luck!

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  • yuanfen888yuanfen888 Member Posts: 14
    Thanks for the feedback. After I realized "used" car was getting hit with residual penalty, I looked at their inventory and found another 2017 X5 40e new to negotiate on. Here is what I got:

    Odometer: 4 miles
    MSRP: $66820
    Selling price: $60955
    Lease Credit: $6000
    Cash Cap Reduction: $128.73 (not sure why they put this in, maybe just to get it to a round cash drive off #)
    Total Cap Cost: $54826.27
    36mo/10k
    MF .00152
    Residual: 58%
    Monthly pymt: $588.65 and $644.57 including tax

    Drive-off
    $925 Acq Fee
    $80 doc fee
    $477 registration fee
    $11 Flat add/County fee
    $7 Tire fee
    $29 Electronic Filing fee
    $20 Smog abatement Fee
    $644.57 First Month
    $677.70 upfront taxes
    Cap Red (cash) $128.73
    Total $3000

    Appreciate the feedback!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 233,481

    Thanks for the feedback. After I realized "used" car was getting hit with residual penalty, I looked at their inventory and found another 2017 X5 40e new to negotiate on. Here is what I got:

    Odometer: 4 miles
    MSRP: $66820
    Selling price: $60955
    Lease Credit: $6000
    Cash Cap Reduction: $128.73 (not sure why they put this in, maybe just to get it to a round cash drive off #)
    Total Cap Cost: $54826.27
    36mo/10k
    MF .00152
    Residual: 58%
    Monthly pymt: $588.65 and $644.57 including tax

    Drive-off
    $925 Acq Fee
    $80 doc fee
    $477 registration fee
    $11 Flat add/County fee
    $7 Tire fee
    $29 Electronic Filing fee
    $20 Smog abatement Fee
    $644.57 First Month
    $677.70 upfront taxes
    Cap Red (cash) $128.73
    Total $3000

    Appreciate the feedback!

    I get the same payment.
    Yes, the CAP reduction is just to give you a round number upfront.
    The upfront taxes are on the rebate and acquisition fee.

    You can roll in the acquisition fee and skip the CAP reduction. That will drop your upfronts to about $1850, and make the payment about $678/mo. including tax.

    Looks like a good deal.

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  • yuanfen888yuanfen888 Member Posts: 14
    kyfdx said:

    Thanks for the feedback. After I realized "used" car was getting hit with residual penalty, I looked at their inventory and found another 2017 X5 40e new to negotiate on. Here is what I got:

    Odometer: 4 miles
    MSRP: $66820
    Selling price: $60955
    Lease Credit: $6000
    Cash Cap Reduction: $128.73 (not sure why they put this in, maybe just to get it to a round cash drive off #)
    Total Cap Cost: $54826.27
    36mo/10k
    MF .00152
    Residual: 58%
    Monthly pymt: $588.65 and $644.57 including tax

    Drive-off
    $925 Acq Fee
    $80 doc fee
    $477 registration fee
    $11 Flat add/County fee
    $7 Tire fee
    $29 Electronic Filing fee
    $20 Smog abatement Fee
    $644.57 First Month
    $677.70 upfront taxes
    Cap Red (cash) $128.73
    Total $3000

    Appreciate the feedback!

    I get the same payment.
    Yes, the CAP reduction is just to give you a round number upfront.
    The upfront taxes are on the rebate and acquisition fee.

    You can roll in the acquisition fee and skip the CAP reduction. That will drop your upfronts to about $1850, and make the payment about $678/mo. including tax.

    Looks like a good deal.
    Thanks for the feedback! Haven't committed to this yet. Can I do better? Dlr says they are $2k under invoice which they say is $62955. Do they have more room to go?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 238,609

    kyfdx said:

    Thanks for the feedback. After I realized "used" car was getting hit with residual penalty, I looked at their inventory and found another 2017 X5 40e new to negotiate on. Here is what I got:

    Odometer: 4 miles
    MSRP: $66820
    Selling price: $60955
    Lease Credit: $6000
    Cash Cap Reduction: $128.73 (not sure why they put this in, maybe just to get it to a round cash drive off #)
    Total Cap Cost: $54826.27
    36mo/10k
    MF .00152
    Residual: 58%
    Monthly pymt: $588.65 and $644.57 including tax

    Drive-off
    $925 Acq Fee
    $80 doc fee
    $477 registration fee
    $11 Flat add/County fee
    $7 Tire fee
    $29 Electronic Filing fee
    $20 Smog abatement Fee
    $644.57 First Month
    $677.70 upfront taxes
    Cap Red (cash) $128.73
    Total $3000

    Appreciate the feedback!

    I get the same payment.
    Yes, the CAP reduction is just to give you a round number upfront.
    The upfront taxes are on the rebate and acquisition fee.

    You can roll in the acquisition fee and skip the CAP reduction. That will drop your upfronts to about $1850, and make the payment about $678/mo. including tax.

    Looks like a good deal.
    Thanks for the feedback! Haven't committed to this yet. Can I do better? Dlr says they are $2k under invoice which they say is $62955. Do they have more room to go?
    Almost 9% off sticker, which is pretty good for BMW.

    But, if you don't ask, you don't get.

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  • mightyjohnmightyjohn Member Posts: 10
    Can you please let me know what the MF and RV for NY is on the X5 40e 36/10k & 36/12k? Do you know if a USAA discount can be added on top of the 6k bonus? Thank you!!!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 238,609

    Can you please let me know what the MF and RV for NY is on the X5 40e 36/10k & 36/12k? Do you know if a USAA discount can be added on top of the 6k bonus? Thank you!!!

    .00152 and 58% / 57%, assuming this is a 2017.

    Not sure if the USAA discount can be stacked with the incentives.

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  • mightyjohnmightyjohn Member Posts: 10
    Michaell said:

    Can you please let me know what the MF and RV for NY is on the X5 40e 36/10k & 36/12k? Do you know if a USAA discount can be added on top of the 6k bonus? Thank you!!!

    .00152 and 58% / 57%, assuming this is a 2017.

    Not sure if the USAA discount can be stacked with the incentives.
    Thank you for the quick response. I was actually looking for the 2018 X5 numbers. I tried to look for 2017 models but most local dealers are all sold out.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 233,481

    Michaell said:

    Can you please let me know what the MF and RV for NY is on the X5 40e 36/10k & 36/12k? Do you know if a USAA discount can be added on top of the 6k bonus? Thank you!!!

    .00152 and 58% / 57%, assuming this is a 2017.

    Not sure if the USAA discount can be stacked with the incentives.
    Thank you for the quick response. I was actually looking for the 2018 X5 numbers. I tried to look for 2017 models but most local dealers are all sold out.
    2018: .00152 MF and 59%/58% residual
    $6000 lease credit

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  • mikeletimikeleti Member Posts: 48
    $5000 lease Credit this month!!!
  • neesh319neesh319 Member Posts: 32
    Can you please let me know what the MF and RV for NY/NJ is on the X5 40e 36/10k & 36/12k? thank you
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 238,609
    neesh319 said:

    Can you please let me know what the MF and RV for NY/NJ is on the X5 40e 36/10k & 36/12k? thank you

    .00156 and 59% / 58%
    $4500 lease credit
    $1000 loyalty

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