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2006 Toyota RAV4



  • jaxs1jaxs1 Posts: 2,697
    Not the same engine. Engines for front drive cars and rear drive cars are usually not interchangable.
  • jimd4jimd4 Posts: 877
    I think you forgot the $650 transportation etc charge from Toyota?
  • mcdawggmcdawgg Posts: 1,679
    True, the '01 Rav dropped the first year too. BUT, the reasons were the following: 1. From Consumer's Reports, they had a black or half black dot in the section about "body integrity." This was mainly because of the "rattle" from the cowl in front of the windshield. Problem solved under warranty years ago, been perfect ever since. 2. The brakes had a black or half black mark also. But this was because they were noisy, not a safety or wear issue. Toyota put out a TSB for this, and we got new (quiet) brakes under warranty!! So, were these two bad marks really a big problem? Not at all. So, I would feel pretty comfortable with a first year from Toyota, but probably not from other makes.
  • jimd4jimd4 Posts: 877
    Well I will try to get mine late this year so I do not have to help them de-bug the RAV4 and the new factory!
  • Well, next month Consumer Reports annual auto issue will be out. I imagine the new Rav4's will be listed in it.
  • the test data (hp and mpg) are obtained using premium (91 octane) gas. If u use 87 octane, it's fine, but it will be 7hp and 1mpg less. This is why EPA's mpg is 1 less than what's on the manu. EPA use 87 for the test.

    I called toyota company, and obtained above info.
  • Production doesn't begin until 2008 in the new Canadian Plant. This is good since it indicates that Toyota is still backing the RAV4 in the future.

    I believe the idea that the Highlander will become a Hybrid-only model and the newly designed RAV4 will be there to fulfill the needs of the 4-cylinder and V6 gas-only crowd.

    I am not really sure why some are looking at the 2006 Rav4 4-cylinder as a 1st year model.

    Is it the new chassis that is the major concern?

    I would be (and am a little) more concerned about the V6 - since they do not have any history on this engine in this vehicle (old chassis or new).

    The only thing to help confort is the engine's history in the Avalon.
  • jimd4jimd4 Posts: 877
    Well if your numbers are correct I think it means we might as well use premium. If I average say, 22MPG and loose 1 MPG with regular then I loose 4.5%x$2.65/gal=12 cents for each gallon of regular I use. $2.65+.12=$2.77 which is getting close to the cost of premium I think and enjoy the the 7 HP once in a while.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    So the engine is different - are they not even related? I realize they'd be mounted with a different orientation (transverse for FWD, longitudinal for RWD), but are the blocks the same?

    I would not dismiss a rattly dash and squeeky brakes, as those can be among the most annoying problems you could have. I guess they won't leave you stranded somewhere, but it's still a concern. At least they provided solutions for both.

    Does Toyota actually publish different mileage numbers than the EPA does? Can they do that? I would think they would publish EPA estimates, since that is industry standard.

  • jimd4jimd4 Posts: 877
    So today the Fizmall site shows about 4 V6s "comming soon". It will be interesting to see how long it takes and how long they last.

    Toyota is a crazy place. In NY you cannot get a Sport with airbag option. In FL, you cannot get V6 with tow prep package.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    That's bizarre, the 4 cyl isn't rated to tow much, so why offer the package at all if the V6 won't get it?

  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    Again it's because the regions do their own marketing and Toyota leaves it to the local districts to decide how to configure the vehicles.

    Things can change if enough want or dislike something strongly. Example, the new body 4Runner originally came out with the black/grey rubber clad overfenders. Women took one look and said 'uggggly' or 'Jeep/Avaalanche' and walked their partners in another direction. The market spoke and 4 months later all the new 4Runners had the painted overfenders and sales skyrocketed. It took us 10 months to blow outthe last of the 'rubber' overfenders. This was a national reaction. Regionally you will just have to make your preferences known to the local store, or the regional office directly, and see how many others have the same reaction.

    It is a simple democracy in this regard. If most people like the status quo, it remains. If most people want a change or two, it will be done.
  • jimd4jimd4 Posts: 877
    Sounds like nonsense to me!

    Why would people in NY not want side bags and people in MD want them? I guess they do not have bad accidents in NY and do not want to tow boats with a V6 in Florida.

    It is not democracy when someone else decides what you can buy with your money.
  • I think the reaction you are seeing is that there may be a perceived belief that you can actually configure your own vehicle due to the web page options (both the Toyota site and other related sites).

    However the reality is that the regions will order the option packages that they believe will be the best sellers in their marketplaces.

    It is very difficult to get an exact build to order vehicle (unless you are willing to wait and the dealer is willing to order it for you).

    The dealers are reluctant to "inventory" odd or customized vehicles since it may be more difficult for them to quickly turn their inventory.

    They rely on the fact they they will be able to "sell-up" to a higher option (or in some cases, sell-down).

    Someone on this thread said it best a few weeks ago, all vehicles will require you to compromise...and I add, that there is no silver bullet.
  • jimd4jimd4 Posts: 877
    Well the V6 gets tow prep in MD but not in FL. Simple huh?
  • jimd4jimd4 Posts: 877
    Well I don't want to configure anything. I would just like to buy a Sport V6 in NY with same options that I can get on a a V6 in MD.

    Oh well never mind...
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    Since I'm in CAT I agree. I also will only buy a vehicle with ALL the safety features. The regions do their marketing and then each store does it's own as well.

    I'm from NY originally, Upstate, then NYC then No.Jersey. I only started working for Toyota when I came down here. Working here I have found that the local differences are significant even within one region.

    One of the key factors in putting unsold expensive product on the market is how fast will it sell. If the NY region has determined, and I'm only guessing, that the buyers are let's say 'frugal' and dont want anything extra on their vehicles. That's what sells the quickest. Then most of the incoming unsold inventory will be spec'd this way.

    The region is responsible for lets say 100+ stores and each one is going to get 4-5 units every 15 days. If they spec them wrong, see 4Runner example, then these sit while all the other regions blow out every vehicle that comes in. In Toyota's system each store/region that doesnt move it's allocation each period loses vehicles in the next allocation. If they spec out unsold items with too many features that the local population doesnt want then they risk having excess inventory.

    Vote with your feet, CAT, or make your opinion known locally. If enough do so then things do change.
  • i agree with you. Anyway, it's not too much difference. The 7Hp off is from the max HP (269) of V6, so if in normal driving, you don't feel it. If I choose, i still use 87. According to combined highway and local drive, about 24MPG average, I lose 1MPG means about 4%. The gas price in my area is 2.19 for 87 and 2.39 for 91, so it's 9% increase. I still need to pay about 10c more a gallon for a slightly increase of hp.
  • When will the V6 RAV4 be out in Southern California??

    Should they call the V6 model the RAV6??
  • 4 stands for 4wd. Actually 2wd should be called RAV2.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I've always said that, since 1996, but noone listens to me. :D

  • What about V6's in Southern California???
  • jimd4jimd4 Posts: 877
    some guy here from SoCal says he is driving a V6 RAV4 now.
  • Is $500 off sticker price a V6 a good deal? It has what I want and just a few extras. The V6's in TX are coming in with 2WD+ tow pack. That's what I need. I'd be willing to go get the vehicle in another region if necessary.
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    To be verified.. but it appears that the V6's will arrive on the EC only at the end of Mar / early Apr.!!! This may explain why some stores have little or no info on them while some seem to have them arriving shortly. Might be worth a call to see how close the arrival is actually.

    Word-of-mouth and universally favorable reviews seem to be spreading the word on the new RAV. We just sold out after having 8 on the lot for two weeks.. suddenly gone..
  • I ordered a V6 AWD Limited at 500 off sticker here in Northeast PA. I found out today that it will be delivered at the end of the month, which I understand is the first shipment to the Keystone State. It seemed like a good deal to me as a number of the other dealerships here were not willing to budge off sticker price. This will be my first Toyota, I suppose I am taking a bit of a risk with it being a new design, but I remain optimistic. I will keep you all posted.
  • jimd4jimd4 Posts: 877
    Well we will find out shortly. MY dealer says he is getting two around Feb 20. The Florida Toyota site shows dozens coming in over the next 1-4 weeks.
  • Test drove a V6 Limited at Naperville Toyota in Naperville, IL today. The 6 is nice but I think I can live with the 4.
  • prash1prash1 Posts: 32
    I was thinking about buying a V6 base highlander. Now I can get the V6 RAV4 for the same price.

    In your opinion which is a better value.
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