2017 Subaru Legacy Lease Questions

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  • tarheelbmwtarheelbmw Member Posts: 14
    money factor/residual for a 2017 legacy premium with eyesite and legacy sport with eyesite/navigation for 36 month/12k in new jersey, thanks
    kyfdx said:

    adamt12 said:

    money factor/residual for a 2017 legacy premium with eyesite and kegacy sport with eyesite/navigation for 36 month/12k in new jersey, thanks

    Prem: .00020 MF and 56% residual
    Sport: .00045 MF and 57% residual
    What about same for 36mo/15k yr? Does Subaru offer 39mo?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 256,264

    money factor/residual for a 2017 legacy premium with eyesite and legacy sport with eyesite/navigation for 36 month/12k in new jersey, thanks

    kyfdx said:

    adamt12 said:

    money factor/residual for a 2017 legacy premium with eyesite and kegacy sport with eyesite/navigation for 36 month/12k in new jersey, thanks

    Prem: .00020 MF and 56% residual
    Sport: .00045 MF and 57% residual
    What about same for 36mo/15k yr? Does Subaru offer 39mo?
    Subtract 2% to go from 12K/yr to 15K/yr.

    39/15:
    Prem: .00070 MF and 54% residual
    Sport: .00065 MF and 54% residual

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  • tarheelbmwtarheelbmw Member Posts: 14
    Thanks

    What about legacy limited 36/15 and 39/15 with eyesight.
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 254,439

    Thanks

    What about legacy limited 36/15 and 39/15 with eyesight.

    54% and .00025
    53% and .00055

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  • ianckanianckan Member Posts: 52
    2017 Legacy sport with Eyesight/Nav- 36mnths/10K
    MSRP: 30,728 sales price: 26,570
    $298 including tax/month
    Drive-off:$698 (including first months)

    SoCal.

    Your thoughts on these numbers will be much appreciated.

    Thanks,
    Ian
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 256,264
    ianckan said:

    2017 Legacy sport with Eyesight/Nav- 36mnths/10K
    MSRP: 30,728 sales price: 26,570
    $298 including tax/month
    Drive-off:$698 (including first months)

    SoCal.

    Your thoughts on these numbers will be much appreciated.

    Thanks,
    Ian

    .00045 MF and 58% residual

    If I add the $595 acquisition fee, I get $280/mo.+tax, which seems pretty close.

    Looks like a good deal.

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  • ianckanianckan Member Posts: 52
    Good to know. Thank you!
  • adamt12adamt12 Member Posts: 21
    was able to close on a 2017 legacy sport with eyesite on the 30th. Couldnt go for Q50 on my budget but did pretty well
    MSRP- 29637
    sale price- 24,483 which includes local dealer incentive
    12 k a year/36 month
    235.93 a month
    1200 minus 500 subaru ambassador coupon= 700 out of pocket at signing
    residual- 17,320
    NJ tax of 7%
    I had found out about a subaru ambassador program that can get you 500 dollars off of down payment so i knew 1200 down was only going to be 700 down,
    I held firm with dealer and they wanted my repeat business so i know they probably used some extra dealer cash to get me to my payment of 235,
    salesman said they are taking a loss on this vehicle but wanted the sale,
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 254,439
    adamt12 said:

    was able to close on a 2017 legacy sport with eyesite on the 30th. Couldnt go for Q50 on my budget but did pretty well
    MSRP- 29637
    sale price- 24,483 which includes local dealer incentive
    12 k a year/36 month
    235.93 a month
    1200 minus 500 subaru ambassador coupon= 700 out of pocket at signing
    residual- 17,320
    NJ tax of 7%
    I had found out about a subaru ambassador program that can get you 500 dollars off of down payment so i knew 1200 down was only going to be 700 down,
    I held firm with dealer and they wanted my repeat business so i know they probably used some extra dealer cash to get me to my payment of 235,
    salesman said they are taking a loss on this vehicle but wanted the sale,

    Congrats! Looks like a solid deal on a lot of car.

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  • coppo110coppo110 Member Posts: 41
    Hi, can you post lease numbers for the Limited in both engines? 36/10 and 36/12 in MA. Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 256,264
    coppo110 said:

    Hi, can you post lease numbers for the Limited in both engines? 36/10 and 36/12 in MA. Thanks!

    2.5: .00020 MF and 56%/55% residual
    3.6: .00025 MF and 57%/56% residual

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  • sbart311sbart311 Member Posts: 5
    Hi also in MA- could you give the MF and residual on the 2017 2.5i Premium, for both 36/12 and 36/15? Thanks so much!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 254,439
    sbart311 said:

    Hi also in MA- could you give the MF and residual on the 2017 2.5i Premium, for both 36/12 and 36/15? Thanks so much!

    55% / 53% and .00025

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  • jaylinnyjaylinny Member Posts: 19
    Hi,
    Great forum.
    Cam I have the residual and money factor for a 2017 Legacy 2.5i Premium with Eyesight for 36/10K.
    I'm in NY.
    Thanks,,
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 254,439
    jaylinny said:

    Hi,
    Great forum.
    Cam I have the residual and money factor for a 2017 Legacy 2.5i Premium with Eyesight for 36/10K.
    I'm in NY.
    Thanks,,

    .00025 and 56%

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  • jaylinnyjaylinny Member Posts: 19
    Michaell said:
    Hi, Great forum. Cam I have the residual and money factor for a 2017 Legacy 2.5i Premium with Eyesight for 36/10K. I'm in NY. Thanks,,
    .00025 and 56%

    I got some numbers from the dealer. He said 0.0009 and 58% for 36/10k. Any thoughts?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 256,264
    jaylinny said:


    Michaell said:

    jaylinny said:

    Hi,
    Great forum.
    Cam I have the residual and money factor for a 2017 Legacy 2.5i Premium with Eyesight for 36/10K.
    I'm in NY.
    Thanks,,

    .00025 and 56%

    I got some numbers from the dealer. He said 0.0009 and 58% for 36/10k. Any thoughts?

    @michaell must have been reading off the wrong line:

    .00065 MF and 58% residual for 36/10.

    .00090 is likely a markup, if you have top tier credit.

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  • jaylinnyjaylinny Member Posts: 19
    kyfdx said:
    Michaell said:
    Hi, Great forum. Cam I have the residual and money factor for a 2017 Legacy 2.5i Premium with Eyesight for 36/10K. I'm in NY. Thanks,,
    .00025 and 56%

    I got some numbers from the dealer. He said 0.0009 and 58% for 36/10k. Any thoughts?
    @michaell must have been reading off the wrong line: .00065 MF and 58% residual for 36/10. .00090 is likely a markup, if you have top tier credit.
    So my deal so far is:
    Msrp: 26790
    selling price: 24109
    dealer fees : 179
    residual: 15538
    mf: 0.00090
    36/10k
    8.625% tax
    sign and drive. DMV fees
    $349.33/mo
    This seems really off to me

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 256,264
    jaylinny said:


    kyfdx said:

    jaylinny said:


    Michaell said:

    jaylinny said:

    Hi,
    Great forum.
    Cam I have the residual and money factor for a 2017 Legacy 2.5i Premium with Eyesight for 36/10K.
    I'm in NY.
    Thanks,,

    .00025 and 56%

    I got some numbers from the dealer. He said 0.0009 and 58% for 36/10k. Any thoughts?
    @michaell must have been reading off the wrong line:

    .00065 MF and 58% residual for 36/10.

    .00090 is likely a markup, if you have top tier credit.

    So my deal so far is:
    Msrp: 26790
    selling price: 24109
    dealer fees : 179
    residual: 15538
    mf: 0.00090
    36/10k
    8.625% tax
    sign and drive. DMV fees
    $349.33/mo
    This seems really off to me



    Need a CAP cost of about $26,700 to get that monthly, with the marked up money factor.
    Ask for the adjusted CAP, and why it's $2600 higher than the sale price.
    $595 acquisition
    +$349 1st payment (rolled in, right?)
    $1000 tax
    $179 dealer fee (is the dealer in NY?)
    Still about $500 off.

    Money factor markup adds $11/mo.

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  • jaylinnyjaylinny Member Posts: 19
    kyfdx said:
    kyfdx said:
    Michaell said:
    Hi, Great forum. Cam I have the residual and money factor for a 2017 Legacy 2.5i Premium with Eyesight for 36/10K. I'm in NY. Thanks,,
    .00025 and 56%

    I got some numbers from the dealer. He said 0.0009 and 58% for 36/10k. Any thoughts?
    @michaell must have been reading off the wrong line: .00065 MF and 58% residual for 36/10. .00090 is likely a markup, if you have top tier credit.
    So my deal so far is:
    Msrp: 26790
    selling price: 24109
    dealer fees : 179
    residual: 15538
    mf: 0.00090
    36/10k
    8.625% tax
    sign and drive. DMV fees
    $349.33/mo
    This seems really off to me

    Need a CAP cost of about $26,700 to get that monthly, with the marked up money factor. Ask for the adjusted CAP, and why it's $2600 higher than the sale price. $595 acquisition +$349 1st payment (rolled in, right?) $1000 tax $179 dealer fee (is the dealer in NY?) Still about $500 off. Money factor markup adds $11/mo.
    Yes, a NY dealer. First payment is rolled in. Just DMV fees additional.
    How is the tax calculated in NY?
    I'll ask for the adjusted cap. 
    Thanks. You guys are great. 
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 254,439
    jaylinny said:


    kyfdx said:

    jaylinny said:


    kyfdx said:

    jaylinny said:


    Michaell said:

    jaylinny said:

    Hi,
    Great forum.
    Cam I have the residual and money factor for a 2017 Legacy 2.5i Premium with Eyesight for 36/10K.
    I'm in NY.
    Thanks,,

    .00025 and 56%

    I got some numbers from the dealer. He said 0.0009 and 58% for 36/10k. Any thoughts?
    @michaell must have been reading off the wrong line:

    .00065 MF and 58% residual for 36/10.

    .00090 is likely a markup, if you have top tier credit.

    So my deal so far is:
    Msrp: 26790
    selling price: 24109
    dealer fees : 179
    residual: 15538
    mf: 0.00090
    36/10k
    8.625% tax
    sign and drive. DMV fees
    $349.33/mo
    This seems really off to me

    Need a CAP cost of about $26,700 to get that monthly, with the marked up money factor.
    Ask for the adjusted CAP, and why it's $2600 higher than the sale price.
    $595 acquisition
    +$349 1st payment (rolled in, right?)
    $1000 tax
    $179 dealer fee (is the dealer in NY?)
    Still about $500 off.

    Money factor markup adds $11/mo.

    Yes, a NY dealer. First payment is rolled in. Just DMV fees additional.
    How is the tax calculated in NY?
    I'll ask for the adjusted cap. 
    Thanks. You guys are great. 

    NY taxes the sum of the payments, and collects that money up front.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 16,976
    jaylinny said:


    kyfdx said:

    jaylinny said:


    kyfdx said:

    jaylinny said:


    Michaell said:

    jaylinny said:

    Hi,
    Great forum.
    Cam I have the residual and money factor for a 2017 Legacy 2.5i Premium with Eyesight for 36/10K.
    I'm in NY.
    Thanks,,

    .00025 and 56%

    I got some numbers from the dealer. He said 0.0009 and 58% for 36/10k. Any thoughts?
    @michaell must have been reading off the wrong line:

    .00065 MF and 58% residual for 36/10.

    .00090 is likely a markup, if you have top tier credit.

    So my deal so far is:
    Msrp: 26790
    selling price: 24109
    dealer fees : 179
    residual: 15538
    mf: 0.00090
    36/10k
    8.625% tax
    sign and drive. DMV fees
    $349.33/mo
    This seems really off to me

    Need a CAP cost of about $26,700 to get that monthly, with the marked up money factor.
    Ask for the adjusted CAP, and why it's $2600 higher than the sale price.
    $595 acquisition
    +$349 1st payment (rolled in, right?)
    $1000 tax
    $179 dealer fee (is the dealer in NY?)
    Still about $500 off.

    Money factor markup adds $11/mo.

    Yes, a NY dealer. First payment is rolled in. Just DMV fees additional.
    How is the tax calculated in NY?
    I'll ask for the adjusted cap. 
    Thanks. You guys are great. 

    Where in NY are you?

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  • jaylinnyjaylinny Member Posts: 19
    @nyccarguy
    suffolk county 
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 16,976
    Cool. There are plenty of dealers on Long Island. It doesn't hurt to get a quote from more than 1 dealer.

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  • jaylinnyjaylinny Member Posts: 19
    nyccarguy said:
    kyfdx said:
    kyfdx said:
    Michaell said:
    Hi, Great forum. Cam I have the residual and money factor for a 2017 Legacy 2.5i Premium with Eyesight for 36/10K. I'm in NY. Thanks,,
    .00025 and 56%

    I got some numbers from the dealer. He said 0.0009 and 58% for 36/10k. Any thoughts?
    @michaell must have been reading off the wrong line: .00065 MF and 58% residual for 36/10. .00090 is likely a markup, if you have top tier credit.
    So my deal so far is:
    Msrp: 26790
    selling price: 24109
    dealer fees : 179
    residual: 15538
    mf: 0.00090
    36/10k
    8.625% tax
    sign and drive. DMV fees
    $349.33/mo
    This seems really off to me

    Need a CAP cost of about $26,700 to get that monthly, with the marked up money factor. Ask for the adjusted CAP, and why it's $2600 higher than the sale price. $595 acquisition +$349 1st payment (rolled in, right?) $1000 tax $179 dealer fee (is the dealer in NY?) Still about $500 off. Money factor markup adds $11/mo
    So I asked about the payment and he said he rolled in the $400. 
    Thats seems like a lot of money for DMV fees
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 254,439
    jaylinny said:


    nyccarguy said:


    kyfdx said:


    kyfdx said:


    Michaell said:

    Hi,
    Great forum.
    Cam I have the residual and money factor for a 2017 Legacy 2.5i Premium with Eyesight for 36/10K.
    I'm in NY.
    Thanks,,
    .00025 and 56%

    I got some numbers from the dealer. He said 0.0009 and 58% for 36/10k. Any thoughts?
    @michaell must have been reading off the wrong line:

    .00065 MF and 58% residual for 36/10.

    .00090 is likely a markup, if you have top tier credit.

    So my deal so far is:
    Msrp: 26790
    selling price: 24109
    dealer fees : 179
    residual: 15538
    mf: 0.00090
    36/10k
    8.625% tax
    sign and drive. DMV fees
    $349.33/mo
    This seems really off to me



    Need a CAP cost of about $26,700 to get that monthly, with the marked up money factor.
    Ask for the adjusted CAP, and why it's $2600 higher than the sale price.
    $595 acquisition
    +$349 1st payment (rolled in, right?)
    $1000 tax
    $179 dealer fee (is the dealer in NY?)
    Still about $500 off.

    Money factor markup adds $11/mo

    So I asked about the payment and he said he rolled in the $400. 
    Thats seems like a lot of money for DMV fees

    You should be able to go on line with the state or county and determine what your DMV costs ought to be.

    And, you want to pay those up front.

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  • jaylinnyjaylinny Member Posts: 19
    Is the residual and money factor the same for a 2.5i premium and limited with eyesight for 36/10k in NY?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 256,264
    jaylinny said:

    Is the residual and money factor the same for a 2.5i premium and limited with eyesight for 36/10k in NY?

    .00065/.00060 MF for Prem/LTD.
    58% residual for either.

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  • jaylinnyjaylinny Member Posts: 19
    Thanks for the help so far. I want to counter the dealer it's an offerMichaell said:
    Michaell said:
    Hi, Great forum. Cam I have the residual  numbers from the dealer. He said 0.0009 and 58% for 36/10k. Any 
    So my deal so far is:
    Msrp: 26790
    selling price: 24109
    dealer fees : 179
    residual: 15538
    mf: 0.00090
    36/10k
    8.625% tax
    sign and drive. DMV fees
    $349.33/mo
    This seems really off to me

    Need a CAP cost of about $26,700 to get that monthly, with the marked up money factor. Ask for the adjusted CAP, and why it's $2600 higher than the sale price. $595 acquisition +$349 1st payment (rolled in, right?) $1000 tax $179 dealer fee (is the dealer in NY?) Still about $500 off. Money factor markup adds $11/mo
    So I asked about the payment and he said he rolled in the $400. 
    Thats seems like a lot of money for DMV fees
    You should be able to go on line with the state or county and determine what your DMV costs ought to be. And, you want to pay those up front.

  • easypandaeasypanda Member Posts: 4
    Hello!

    Could I get the MF and RV for a Legacy 2.5i Premium w/ Eyesight leased in California for

    - 36mo/10k miles
    - 36mo/12k miles

    Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 254,439
    easypanda said:

    Hello!

    Could I get the MF and RV for a Legacy 2.5i Premium w/ Eyesight leased in California for

    - 36mo/10k miles
    - 36mo/12k miles

    Thanks!

    58% / 57% and .00065

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  • easypandaeasypanda Member Posts: 4
    Michaell said:

    easypanda said:

    Hello!

    Could I get the MF and RV for a Legacy 2.5i Premium w/ Eyesight leased in California for

    - 36mo/10k miles
    - 36mo/12k miles

    Thanks!

    58% / 57% and .00065
    Thanks @Michaell .. This is my first time leasing. I would like to know your thoughts on this offer:

    For a 2.5i Legacy Premium w/ Eyesight this is the offer I received for 36mo/12k. Dealer did not give me the MF & RV used in the calculation (I've asked him for it):

    MSRP: $26749
    Sale Price: $23299
    Lease Offer: $265/mo + Tax (~$289 with tax) & $1500 drive off

    The counter offer I'm planning on making is:
    $230 + tax ($255 incl. tax) with $1500 drive off - for a 36mo/10k

    The numbers I've used in my calculation are:
    Sale Price: $23,100 (Because this is a tad above TrueCar and price from another local dealer)
    RV/MF: 58%/0.00065 based on your previous feedback

    Does this seem ok?

    Thanks!
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 254,439
    easypanda said:

    Michaell said:

    easypanda said:

    Hello!

    Could I get the MF and RV for a Legacy 2.5i Premium w/ Eyesight leased in California for

    - 36mo/10k miles
    - 36mo/12k miles

    Thanks!

    58% / 57% and .00065
    Thanks @Michaell .. This is my first time leasing. I would like to know your thoughts on this offer:

    For a 2.5i Legacy Premium w/ Eyesight this is the offer I received for 36mo/12k. Dealer did not give me the MF & RV used in the calculation (I've asked him for it):

    MSRP: $26749
    Sale Price: $23299
    Lease Offer: $265/mo + Tax (~$289 with tax) & $1500 drive off

    The counter offer I'm planning on making is:
    $230 + tax ($255 incl. tax) with $1500 drive off - for a 36mo/10k

    The numbers I've used in my calculation are:
    Sale Price: $23,100 (Because this is a tad above TrueCar and price from another local dealer)
    RV/MF: 58%/0.00065 based on your previous feedback

    Does this seem ok?

    Thanks!
    If the $1500 covers all the fees and such, their offer looks to be using a marked up MF ... their prices give me a pre-tax payment of $249/mo, not $265/mo.

    You want to negotiate the selling price, not the payment. And, get a full accounting of what the $1500 up front covers.

    We recommend only paying the first payment and DMV costs at signing - roll all the other fees into the lease payment.

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  • easypandaeasypanda Member Posts: 4
    Michaell said:

    easypanda said:

    Michaell said:

    easypanda said:

    Hello!

    Could I get the MF and RV for a Legacy 2.5i Premium w/ Eyesight leased in California for

    - 36mo/10k miles
    - 36mo/12k miles

    Thanks!

    58% / 57% and .00065
    Thanks @Michaell .. This is my first time leasing. I would like to know your thoughts on this offer:

    For a 2.5i Legacy Premium w/ Eyesight this is the offer I received for 36mo/12k. Dealer did not give me the MF & RV used in the calculation (I've asked him for it):

    MSRP: $26749
    Sale Price: $23299
    Lease Offer: $265/mo + Tax (~$289 with tax) & $1500 drive off

    The counter offer I'm planning on making is:
    $230 + tax ($255 incl. tax) with $1500 drive off - for a 36mo/10k

    The numbers I've used in my calculation are:
    Sale Price: $23,100 (Because this is a tad above TrueCar and price from another local dealer)
    RV/MF: 58%/0.00065 based on your previous feedback

    Does this seem ok?

    Thanks!
    If the $1500 covers all the fees and such, their offer looks to be using a marked up MF ... their prices give me a pre-tax payment of $249/mo, not $265/mo.

    You want to negotiate the selling price, not the payment. And, get a full accounting of what the $1500 up front covers.

    We recommend only paying the first payment and DMV costs at signing - roll all the other fees into the lease payment.
    Thanks @Michaell .. All the information you provided really helped. I leased a car last weekend, here's the rest of the story .. in case it helps anyone else:

    As you suspected the dealer, from whom I got the above quote, was indeed using a marked up MF of 0.0011. When I questioned this he got a little defensive and asked for written proof of a 0.00065 MF from another dealer.

    I called up a couple of other dealers and all of them said the MF was 0.00065. I finally ended up leasing a car from one of the other dealers.

    Final lease price details:
    Car: Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium w/ Eyesight
    MSRP: $26,648
    Sale Price: $22,600
    Lease Period: 36mo/12k
    MF and RV: 0.00065 & 57%
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 254,439
    easypanda said:

    Michaell said:

    easypanda said:

    Michaell said:

    easypanda said:

    Hello!

    Could I get the MF and RV for a Legacy 2.5i Premium w/ Eyesight leased in California for

    - 36mo/10k miles
    - 36mo/12k miles

    Thanks!

    58% / 57% and .00065
    Thanks @Michaell .. This is my first time leasing. I would like to know your thoughts on this offer:

    For a 2.5i Legacy Premium w/ Eyesight this is the offer I received for 36mo/12k. Dealer did not give me the MF & RV used in the calculation (I've asked him for it):

    MSRP: $26749
    Sale Price: $23299
    Lease Offer: $265/mo + Tax (~$289 with tax) & $1500 drive off

    The counter offer I'm planning on making is:
    $230 + tax ($255 incl. tax) with $1500 drive off - for a 36mo/10k

    The numbers I've used in my calculation are:
    Sale Price: $23,100 (Because this is a tad above TrueCar and price from another local dealer)
    RV/MF: 58%/0.00065 based on your previous feedback

    Does this seem ok?

    Thanks!
    If the $1500 covers all the fees and such, their offer looks to be using a marked up MF ... their prices give me a pre-tax payment of $249/mo, not $265/mo.

    You want to negotiate the selling price, not the payment. And, get a full accounting of what the $1500 up front covers.

    We recommend only paying the first payment and DMV costs at signing - roll all the other fees into the lease payment.
    Thanks @Michaell .. All the information you provided really helped. I leased a car last weekend, here's the rest of the story .. in case it helps anyone else:

    As you suspected the dealer, from whom I got the above quote, was indeed using a marked up MF of 0.0011. When I questioned this he got a little defensive and asked for written proof of a 0.00065 MF from another dealer.

    I called up a couple of other dealers and all of them said the MF was 0.00065. I finally ended up leasing a car from one of the other dealers.

    Final lease price details:
    Car: Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium w/ Eyesight
    MSRP: $26,648
    Sale Price: $22,600
    Lease Period: 36mo/12k
    MF and RV: 0.00065 & 57%
    Congrats! Good that you walked on the first dealer - they were marking up the MF the max allowed.

    What did your final payment end up to be?

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  • easypandaeasypanda Member Posts: 4
    Michaell said:

    easypanda said:

    Michaell said:

    easypanda said:

    Michaell said:

    easypanda said:

    Hello!

    Could I get the MF and RV for a Legacy 2.5i Premium w/ Eyesight leased in California for

    - 36mo/10k miles
    - 36mo/12k miles

    Thanks!

    58% / 57% and .00065
    Thanks @Michaell .. This is my first time leasing. I would like to know your thoughts on this offer:

    For a 2.5i Legacy Premium w/ Eyesight this is the offer I received for 36mo/12k. Dealer did not give me the MF & RV used in the calculation (I've asked him for it):

    MSRP: $26749
    Sale Price: $23299
    Lease Offer: $265/mo + Tax (~$289 with tax) & $1500 drive off

    The counter offer I'm planning on making is:
    $230 + tax ($255 incl. tax) with $1500 drive off - for a 36mo/10k

    The numbers I've used in my calculation are:
    Sale Price: $23,100 (Because this is a tad above TrueCar and price from another local dealer)
    RV/MF: 58%/0.00065 based on your previous feedback

    Does this seem ok?

    Thanks!
    If the $1500 covers all the fees and such, their offer looks to be using a marked up MF ... their prices give me a pre-tax payment of $249/mo, not $265/mo.

    You want to negotiate the selling price, not the payment. And, get a full accounting of what the $1500 up front covers.

    We recommend only paying the first payment and DMV costs at signing - roll all the other fees into the lease payment.
    Thanks @Michaell .. All the information you provided really helped. I leased a car last weekend, here's the rest of the story .. in case it helps anyone else:

    As you suspected the dealer, from whom I got the above quote, was indeed using a marked up MF of 0.0011. When I questioned this he got a little defensive and asked for written proof of a 0.00065 MF from another dealer.

    I called up a couple of other dealers and all of them said the MF was 0.00065. I finally ended up leasing a car from one of the other dealers.

    Final lease price details:
    Car: Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium w/ Eyesight
    MSRP: $26,648
    Sale Price: $22,600
    Lease Period: 36mo/12k
    MF and RV: 0.00065 & 57%
    Congrats! Good that you walked on the first dealer - they were marking up the MF the max allowed.

    What did your final payment end up to be?
    $246 incl. taxes w/ $1500 drive-off
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 254,439
    easypanda said:

    Michaell said:

    easypanda said:

    Michaell said:

    easypanda said:

    Michaell said:

    easypanda said:

    Hello!

    Could I get the MF and RV for a Legacy 2.5i Premium w/ Eyesight leased in California for

    - 36mo/10k miles
    - 36mo/12k miles

    Thanks!

    58% / 57% and .00065
    Thanks @Michaell .. This is my first time leasing. I would like to know your thoughts on this offer:

    For a 2.5i Legacy Premium w/ Eyesight this is the offer I received for 36mo/12k. Dealer did not give me the MF & RV used in the calculation (I've asked him for it):

    MSRP: $26749
    Sale Price: $23299
    Lease Offer: $265/mo + Tax (~$289 with tax) & $1500 drive off

    The counter offer I'm planning on making is:
    $230 + tax ($255 incl. tax) with $1500 drive off - for a 36mo/10k

    The numbers I've used in my calculation are:
    Sale Price: $23,100 (Because this is a tad above TrueCar and price from another local dealer)
    RV/MF: 58%/0.00065 based on your previous feedback

    Does this seem ok?

    Thanks!
    If the $1500 covers all the fees and such, their offer looks to be using a marked up MF ... their prices give me a pre-tax payment of $249/mo, not $265/mo.

    You want to negotiate the selling price, not the payment. And, get a full accounting of what the $1500 up front covers.

    We recommend only paying the first payment and DMV costs at signing - roll all the other fees into the lease payment.
    Thanks @Michaell .. All the information you provided really helped. I leased a car last weekend, here's the rest of the story .. in case it helps anyone else:

    As you suspected the dealer, from whom I got the above quote, was indeed using a marked up MF of 0.0011. When I questioned this he got a little defensive and asked for written proof of a 0.00065 MF from another dealer.

    I called up a couple of other dealers and all of them said the MF was 0.00065. I finally ended up leasing a car from one of the other dealers.

    Final lease price details:
    Car: Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium w/ Eyesight
    MSRP: $26,648
    Sale Price: $22,600
    Lease Period: 36mo/12k
    MF and RV: 0.00065 & 57%
    Congrats! Good that you walked on the first dealer - they were marking up the MF the max allowed.

    What did your final payment end up to be?
    $246 incl. taxes w/ $1500 drive-off
    Nice deal.

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  • mg87mg87 Member Posts: 11
    Hi,
    Can I please have the April money factor and residual (36/12) for a 2017 Legacy 3.6R Limited in NJ?
    Is there any lease incentives and/or rebates?
    Thanks
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 254,439
    mg87 said:

    Hi,
    Can I please have the April money factor and residual (36/12) for a 2017 Legacy 3.6R Limited in NJ?
    Is there any lease incentives and/or rebates?
    Thanks

    58% and .00055

    No incentive information for Subaru

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  • jjsub24jjsub24 Member Posts: 6
    Hi There,

    Could you please help provide MF and residual for: 12k/36m in Connecticut for any of these please?

    2017 Subaru Legacy 2.5i
    2017 Subaru Impreza 2.0i
    2017 Subaru Crosstrek 2.0i Premium (CVT)
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 254,439
    jjsub24 said:

    Hi There,

    Could you please help provide MF and residual for: 12k/36m in Connecticut for any of these please?

    2017 Subaru Legacy 2.5i
    2017 Subaru Impreza 2.0i
    2017 Subaru Crosstrek 2.0i Premium (CVT)

    Legacy - 60% and .00055

    Impreza thread is here:

    https://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/43065/subaru/impreza/2017-subaru-impreza-lease-questions#latest

    Crosstrek thread is here:

    https://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/43949/subaru/crosstrek/2017-subaru-crosstrek-lease-questions#latest

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  • derekc4derekc4 Member Posts: 134
    Hello! What are the incentives, residual, and mf for Premium with eyesight 12k, 36m in Florida? Thanks!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 256,264
    derekc4 said:

    Hello! What are the incentives, residual, and mf for Premium with eyesight 12k, 36m in Florida? Thanks!

    .00065 MF and 57% residual

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  • jjsub24jjsub24 Member Posts: 6
    In general, is it a bad idea to roll the registration, acquisition fee, doc fee, taxes, so the drive off is zero?
  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 254,439
    jjsub24 said:

    In general, is it a bad idea to roll the registration, acquisition fee, doc fee, taxes, so the drive off is zero?

    Registration is a non-taxable fee, so rolling into the payment makes it taxable.

    We do recommend you roll sales tax and all other fees into the payment.

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  • physiologylabphysiologylab Member Posts: 1
    Could you comment on RV/MF for:
    2017 Subaru Outback 2.5i touring
    36mo/10k
    SF Bay Area
    thank you!!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 256,264

    Could you comment on RV/MF for:
    2017 Subaru Outback 2.5i touring
    36mo/10k
    SF Bay Area
    thank you!!

    .00085 MF and 64% residual

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  • soltarmiqtxxxasoltarmiqtxxxa Member Posts: 4
    When you have a moment, could you provide the MF, RV and Lease Cash details (if any) for the 2.5i Limited and 3.6R Limited at 36 months/12k miles for southeast Michigan? Much appreciated.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 256,264

    When you have a moment, could you provide the MF, RV and Lease Cash details (if any) for the 2.5i Limited and 3.6R Limited at 36 months/12k miles for southeast Michigan? Much appreciated.

    2.5: .00045 MF and 56% residual
    3.6: .00030 MF and 56% residual

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  • green_leasegreen_lease Member Posts: 93
    Can you please provide the Residual and MF for a 2.5i CVT base model for 12/36.
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