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$3k off and the dealer kept the rebate - they gave me $6K for my 2000 Sonata with 321 miles left on the 72K mile warranty.
They did try to scam me - I told them I had financing thru my credit union and was pre-approved for a 30K loan - it was a Sat night - 6 PM - they ran my app thru the credit union and it came back denied.
They then wrote the deal and said I could go to the credit union and come back with a check - they wrote the deal at 2 points above the per centage rate I got at the credit union.
They just wanted me to take delivery and drive it off the lot (which I did).
Found out the finance guy was "off" by one digit on my SS#- causing it to be denied.
My credit union kept calling these guys for days and they wouldn't return any phone calls - appears they sold the deal to HMFC with the higher 2 points.
Finally today an official at the credit union got somebody and told them to resubmit the paper work and that the deal was going thru the credit union.
Would have given the dealer and extra $1300-1400 in finance charges.
(You know the points and money would go to the dealer).
Really dissappointed me as this dealer has a great service department and this is the 3rd car I bought from them.
And no - no one is going to tell me this was an honest mistake.
jp8
This is my third car bought from this dealer.
Plus they tried to add 2% on to the financing - maybe they thought that would make up for the "discounts". :shades:
I had a XG350L also - 2004 - car was totalled in an accident - the air bags saved my life.
Just didn't want to get another XG since I knew the new model was coming out. :shades:
Dislikes - limited audio controls on steering wheel - just volume up and down and "mode" change.
When I grab the wheel - I invariably change the volume due to the placement of my hand/fingers.
"Folding" mirrors - pretty much a useless function - fluff - I like the downward tilt of the mirrors in the XG.
Glove box - looks huge - VERY little space for storage of "essential" articles - even my "entertainment book" with all the restaurant discounts etc takes up a lot of the glove box room.
On my Sonata I could fit a small suitcase of articles in the glove compartment.
where is the repeat button to play CD tracks more than once?
Not enough room in the center gloveboxes.
Not enough room for storage of articles - miss that center console pit in the Sonata.
Using a radar detector and my Magellen GPS device - I have to keep the ashtray open and have a wire to the interior of the glove box.
Gas mileage is terrible - getting 15 mpg around town - haven't taken it on a long highway trip yet.
Likes -
The little plastic clip on the visor that lets you store tickets, parking receipts etc. Only meant for a little bit of paper - but a nice feature - prevents parking receipts and other items from getting lost.
The eyeglass holder on the roof - idea taken from Honda/Toyota?
Trunk space - plenty of room to hold at least several bodies - great Mafia staff car. (Spare me whatever).
And pretty much the entire car.
Isn't that true of almost every car? :mad:
Believe it or not, long lines at a bank drive-up window make a measurable difference in the MPG obtained during one reset period. Every second the engine is running while the car is stopped lowers your average MPG. Even "jack rabbit" starts give better milage than beint stopped with the engine running.
I just think that 270 miles, including who knows how much idling time, is way to early to judge the type of milage you will get over time. While you car is new enough, write down the milage on the odometer and also the amount of gallons you purchase when filling up. Keep these records for 1000 miles or so. Then calculate your milage for those 1000 miles. This will give you a much better picture of your MPG.
Depending on many variabiles, even driving the same routes every day, you'll probably see a difference every tank of gas. That's why you need to compare a weighted average of a few tanks of gas to give you a more acurate reading.
Good luck, I'm sure you will see an improvement in MOG.
The Hyundai 10/100k powertrain warranty used to be transferrable to members of the original buyer's immediate family (e.g. kids), and I know that was true for the 2001 MY but was no longer true for 2004 (don't know when it changed, however).
I'm Scottish & my neighbor Dan is Jewish, and we tried to track this deal down in Houston this weekend, and couldn't. All the dealers initially played dumb, then said they couldn't find a car that qualified. We don't think this deal really exists. Azera are selling too well.
Dan settled for $349/mo but got them to increase the alloted milage from 12 to 15 K/yr
NOW GET THIS. Dealer told him he couldn't get him the car and color he wanted for a purchase but could get him one on a lease. He bought it (I should say leased it). Some dealers will do anything to make an extra buck.
and read rip-off nation - autodealers swindling of America.
Some dealers (most) have a waiver in the contract where you can't sue them - even if they committed fraud.
Very revealing reading on the dishonest tactics some will use.
Toyota does the same thing, they get a new model but the first one they get is always "sold".
With the parameters agreed upon we went to sign the papers. The numbers had changed by about +30%. UNACCEPTABLE. Time spent at dealer aprox: 6hr.
Dec 23, 2005. We then opted to purchase the Azera cash. When signing the papers, the price was again raised. This time to about $2000 above (quoted) list price.
Again, back to the table. Vicki Christi, sales manager quoted " We can't make any money selling Hyundai, dealer (X) is selling these for $4000 more." It seems like a "Stupid to buy here tax" to me. This went similar to gas price stratagy: If the profit was raised obscenely high, lowering to extremely high seems like a deal. After adjusting the "extra" profit and rearranging various fees. The bottom line dropped about $500. Time spent at dealer: aprox 2hr. I have bought 43 cars, 11 trucks and 39 motorcycles. This was my worst buying experience,EVER.
The Azera IS awesome. Buy it someplace else.
Maybe Power Hyundai has a different philosophy from the fair and courteous treatment Pitre gave.
When I'm ready to buy again I'll give them a chance.
I know th :sick: ere must be some out there - but I can't seem to find them.
I've been to ALL the dealerships in the Phoenix area.
Maybe you got them at a weak moment when they had to move cars.
2K above list price - bah humbug.
I guess the deal I got was a super deal after reading all the info here.
Ah this is where your trusty cell phone comes in handy, while you are waiting there for these jokers to run their scam, you should be calling every Hyundai dealer in the adjoining three state area and asking them to fax in VIN sheets and quotes to your dealer's fax number.
...If that doesn't knot up their undies, they not in the land of the living...
Maybe this is the way car buying should be done? :shades:
???
Neighbor Dan took delivery Thursday night Dec.23rd in Houston, TX. Azera is sporting 235/55/17" Michelin XMV4 energy savers. Dan let me put it through its paces. Handled like a dream and no vibrations all the way up to 75 mph, and very quiet. Color is Sage on light beige.
Dan was driving a Sonota rental at the time of negotiations, so they gave him the additional $1,000 owners loyalty rebate, even though it was a rental, they didn't check the registration, just seeing it was sufficient. Be worth a grand to rent or borrow one just for the purchase.
In order to get the lease price and drive out down, the dealer had to reduce sale price to 28 less 1 K$ (MSRP 30,075).
According to KBB.com the Azera weighs 4740 lbs or 1,300 lbs more than the Avalon & Maxima.
With that fact and similar engine torque and hp, one would expect the Azera to be relatively gutless in comparison. But in fact, it is quite quick & responsive. With 4740 lbs, might be difficult getting resonable MPG in stop and go traffic.
Hyundai Azera Specs
What makes you say that? What great attribute does this car have that makes it awesome. Its a collection of car parts that floats down the road. My test drive confirmed it. I so wanted this car to feel special. It just isn't. Certainly not $6000 better than the Sonata.
The car has no soul. Another XG350?
Joke - I HATE cell phone using drivers - my new Azera doesn't need for me to do anything but drive carefully and WATCH out for the cell phone drivers.