Hyundai Azera 2006

navigator89

Exactly, buying an aftermarket system is cheaper and sometimes easier to use.

And also there's the big question - do most people really need a nav system? For trips to school, the mall, work, friends, I dont think so. Road trips maybe, but on a day to day basis?

snakeweasel

I can think of only one time in the last ten years where I truly needed a nav system.

cxc

I agree with you that Hyundai needs to offer navigation system, xeon light, and parking sensor. Otherwise, buyers who already have these may go to BMW, MB, or Lexus.

navigator89

"I agree with you that Hyundai needs to offer navigation system, xeon light, and parking sensor. Otherwise, buyers who already have these may go to BMW, MB, or Lexus. "

I doubt it. Hyundai Azeras go for around 30K, whereas any car from the brand you mentioned go for quite a bit higher. No one is going to be cross shopping Azera with a C-Class or 3 Series. The ES330 is a possibility.

Remember, the Azera doesnt compete with BMW, MB or Lexus. It's main competitors are the Lucerne, Avalon and Five Hundred.

blackrussian

Don`t be suprised if you see the next years model Azera with all the goodies on it for sale in this country, they are just testing the waters with this model and they will be going after the ES330 Lexus and the Infinity I30, but it will be coming with a higher price tag too. BTW, this is for another poster, the rear mirror tilt down feature is available on models for sale outside of this country, I believe this is why it is showing up in the owners manual, I have that feature on my XG350L and I really like it.

ricwhite

Is anybody leasing an Azera? Any leasing information would be appreciated. I am getting HUGE differences in lease deals on this car.

Some ads have listed a $299 lease for 36 months while other quotes were in the $450 range for the Azera.

I have heard that the residual value of the Azera is absolutely awful and, thus, lease deals are terrible as well. Any information on residual value and money factor would be greatly appreciated.

I have narrowed down my search to VW Passat, Acura TL or Hyundai Azera. I've been excited about the Azera and have been leaning in that direction. However, from what I have heard, Hyundai has very poor resale/residual values and that may kill it for me. Why buy or lease a car whose value nose-dives?

frazee

As far as lease goes, the program which just ended was a very good program, as the finance charge was miniscule (about 2.8% as best as I can compute) and the residual value on the actual selling price (not the MSRP) was fairly decent (57% on a 27 month lease). I realize that these are not Mercedes residuals, but the combination of the decent residual, a good discount from MSRP and the very low interest rate made for a very reasonable effective cost and shifts some of the risk to Hyundai Financial in terms of resale. Also, I was able to get a "freebie" upgrade to 12,000 miles per year from the 10,000 in the program. I am not sure if they are continuing with it.....but if so you can probably cut a good deal for yourself.

richwoods

Prices coming down?

Dealer scam with a 32K list price, owner loyalty crap, military discount and the rest.

Give me a price - not scam "discount" tactics.

:mad:

richwoods

Go to stopautofraud.com - read about the tricks of the trade.

Leasing to me is a very bad deal - I'd rather own the car rather than going tru dealer scams at the turn in lease. period of the

frazee

Here is what I have discovered so far, and probably more to come:
a.) All of the conclusions about the reverse tilt-down side-view mirror are correct. It does NOT exist. I saw a newer version of the manual which will no longer have the references to it on 1-23 and 1-24.

b.) You CAN get the seat to move back and the steering wheel to recede upon turning the key to the off position and removing it (for easy entry for the next driver or your return). This can be "programmed" with the scanner device much as the change in how the automatic door locking can be changed. (very nice!!)
This partially mitigates the problem raised by needing to put the key in and turn the ignition on to use the memory pre-set. YET to be determined is if there is an over-ride to that which can be programmed.

frazee

My dealer was super; great discount; super lease and I checked his record with the local Better Business Bureau. I have had wonderful experiences leasing from Infinity, Lexus and BMW.

In order to protect yourself you need to:
a.) Do your homework
b.) Decide in advance the key "issues" with respect to both the aspects of the car you wish to buy and the financial "range" of comfort.
c.) Check with BBB and also, if you can, word of mouth.
d.) If you don't have the time, or disposition for a., b. and c. above, use a reputable buying service (like Costco.) They may not get you rock bottom price, but will save you and protect you from a lot of the discomfort of doing it yourself and will generally get you a pretty good deal.

sukihock

I'm 6'1" and frankly it's not that great. Head room is sufficient for me but I'm just getting comfortable with the leg room. At 6'1" I have long legs, so maybe that's my struggle. Also, the seat doesn't quite tilt back far enough for me, so I don't get as much thigh support. It's not like they couldn't have provided more leg room as rear passenger room is insane.

gene_v

I agree with you. But that is the way a lot of dealers advertise.

gene_v

Keep posting since I believe that Hyundai reads the posts.

averigejoe

Man! You are all over the map. Some of those cars are so different from one another. Maybe you could first decide how much you want to spend to eliminate a few choices. Or, determine the level of performance you want. Or decide what size interior you need?
Why not consider a few pickups and SUVs while you're at it?

averigejoe

For what price will you sell one? Wholesale can mean anything.

floridabob1

After market parking sensors can be installed at a price of about $325.00

frazee

My wife and I have completely different driving positions and found that the pedal adjustments make a HUGE difference in getting comfortable. Have you tried that??

bobgwtw

The need for Navigation exists when you cover 3 states & drive 70,000 miles a year visiting peoples homes in both daylight and dark. Yes, you can use an aftermarket unit; but a factory installed unit w/voice command, voice prompts & a larger screen, all controlled from the wheel like Honda does it, is well worth the additional cost when you travel for a living.

iawiamntwtidrv

this car offers far more leg room than it's competitors even some which are in the 40-45,000 range if Hyundai can
keep the quality up-up it will make people think twice about th 10G more for a badge

bobbyrab

Does homelink come standard with the Azera or as an available option? I have checked the Hyundai website and this forum but can't find an answer. Thanks!

backy

The Azera brochure says Homelink is a standard feature on the SE and Limited.

gene_v

There are only Limited editions in stock in St. Louis.
It seems like the dealers only order limited editions. :confuse:

averigejoe

The Passat, with an interior volume about equal to an Elantra, is much smaller than the Azera inside. So is the TL. If you don't need the extra size the Azera offers, why not look at the G35 Infinity or the ES330 Lexus? Or even a loaded Accord or Camry or Buick LaCrosse?

richwoods

Homelink is standard - have my garage door opener synced to it - press a button garage door open - again it closes.

Kirstie_H

All posts containing buy/sell offers have been removed - sorry, but we don't permit any kind of solicitation in the Forums. Thanks!

floridabob1

I have an Azera, Limited, Ultimate.
Does anyone know if computer can be set to include power pedal adjustments programed in with memory seat settings?
My car does not provide this feature as delivered by dealer

z9z9z9z9

Has anyone seen an Azera SE? All I've seen at dealers so far is the Limited.

Has anyone seen pictures on the Internet of the SE interior?

frazee

Pedal memory settings cannot be incorporated into the seat/mirror/steering memory (yes, seems silly!!)

Called dealer to have them install (or oversee) "autostart" system so that it would not violate factory warranty. They want $695 installed, which is outrageous; however without dealer "blessing" cannot do.....so they have in a bind.

don57

How many Areras does Hyundai plan to import? A salesmanager told me that the Azera will be built in Alabama, is this correct?

mikebutt

will not be built in Alabama,

gschultz3

I have a 2005 Avalon Ltd and have been interested in the introduction of the Azera. I was very interested in reading Motor Trend's comparison of the Azera, Avalon and the Passat. I was surprised at the results and wonder if the comparison was accurate.

1) Toyota recommends regular fuel for the Avalon (they used premium) .... many Avalon followers feel that with regular fuel the gas mileage and acceleration are not as good as with premium. Motor Trend used regular in the Azera and premium in the Avalon and Passat. The results would have been different if they all used regular or premium!

2)They mentioned the price/warranty differences but seemed to ignored them in the end. The diffences between the cars were small but the differences in price/warranty are large. Seems that it would make more sense to compare the top of the line Azera and Avalon with the much more expensive Passat.

3)They basically ignored how the cars were equipped? Seems it is important to reviewers if a Lexus has power something but isn't even considered in this case. The Azera is the winner for standard equipment.

If the small differences in performance/mph are ignored (different gasoline grades) the Azera is the winner for sure!

floridabob1

I spoke with a rep. from Hyundai US today,
Adding ANY electronics(NON OEM stero equipment, Radar detectors, Autostart etc. that are hardwired to car CAN effect the warranty pertaining to wiring and computers.
I was told of incident were someone added stereo equipment which was wired incorrectly causing computer to fail. It cost the OWNER $2000 to repair. NOT covered by warranty.

frazee

Every buyer has their own very "specific" hot-buttons. I know that for me, the electric tilt-telescope steering wheel (NOT available on ANY Avalon) and having that as part of the memory setting (along with the seats and mirror) was a huge factor as my wife and I have very different driving positions, share the car, and find it quite annoying to have to readjust seat, mirror and get a comfortable steering wheel position. In fact, I cannot get a comfortable steering wheel position without an electric tilt/telescope wheel!! Overall the Azera is a compelling package of A-1 convenience and safety features, with FAST acceleration, runs on regular fuel, has a great warranty and comes with everything you can think of that Hyundai offers (Limited with "Ultimate" package) for about $28,000 (plus or minus a few depending on how you negotiate with dealer!)

frazee

Floridabob-I believe that what the Hyundai rep stated IS their firm policy; however, if the dealership oversees the installation and will also give me a letter stating that they will stand behind the warranty AFTER this has been installed, I have to feel that this will cover me. Without the letter from the dealership, no deal, I agree!! Thank you for your input!

ultcar

This is a question I'd like to ask as well. Are the Azera SE models sold in central Illinois? I know that they only sold the XG350 "L" models in central Illinois. I was actually able to get a non-L model, by the way, here in central IL (not sure if it was pure luck or not). If the SE model won't get distributed here, which state would be the closest that will have one?

tinydog1

Just took my first road trip in my Azera this weekend. What an enjoyable drive. I was also impressed with its fuel economy. I managed 27.3mpg on the way down at 73mph (average) 1/3 interstate and 2/3 divided highway, 2 stops and 4 small towns, with A/C on and a crosswind gusting to 30mph. On the way back I made 27mpg, at 78mph, w/A/C, and wind still gusting to 30mph. Not bad at all. Now have 2k on it and is performing flawlessly. I usually average 17-18mpg in the city but I have to take into account that I live in very hilly terrain and have a fairly steep 400ft. climb to my house with 2 speed bumps on the way up. I hope everyone is enjoying their Azeras as much as I am.

frazee

Thank you for the update and trip/mileage experiences. I am still "breaking in" mine (till 1200 miles or so) and will report on experiences after that. :shades:

juwlls

There are no SE's at any dealer in the St Louis area.
All limited models and most with the ultimate package.

davidi

Unfortunately the memory system is NOT available on any Azera sold in Canada. Notwithstanding,I bought it anyway! Hyundai Canada told me is was price-break-point decision not to equip the cars sold here.

averigejoe

The Passat is so much smaller than either the Azera or Avalon, that I wonder why it was in the comparison at all. I guess just to appease those shoppers who think they have to have a German named car.
Since size was not a factor in choosing which cars to compare in the article, price surely should have been. The Azera and Avalon should have been ones that had MSRPs similar to the Passat. If not, how about putting an LS 430 Lexus in there. Its a nice car too and is at least about the same size as the Azera.

There is a discussion that compares the Passat to Azera:
averigejoe, "Hyundai Azera vs. Volkswagen Passat vs. Buick LaCrosse" #, 19 Nov 2005 11:28 pm

mayday1

Just bought a new Azera Limited w/Ultimate package. I called about every dealer in Houston, Dallas, and St.Louis. The best price quote was $26,758 but they did not have my color. Getting the exact color was my biggest problem. I found my color at one dealer but he wanted way to much....I called his other dealership and they sold me the same car for $27,370 plus TTL...the car MSRP was $30,075. My color is mist green with a beige interior. My only possible regret is tha the interior color is very light. I would have liked the Navigation system. I saw the car at the Houston car show and the Factory rep. told me that the memory seat position was controlled by the key FOB. One key FOB controls setting 1 and the other FOB setting 2.....would be nice but I have not seen it work this way. Maybe Hyundai could program the computer to do this...

floridabob1

Momory seat function using remote was a feature on 2004 XG350, not on Azera. Why? Nobody knows

pwgilbert

I'm pretty sure the controls are on the drivers door, as on the Cad Seville. It is a neat feature if two different sized drivers use the same car. Am probably going to get one in a month or two after we get back home. Had zeroed in on a LS 430 (or future 480?) but for almost 1/2 the price feel the Azera is a better value. My one big problem is that there is not a local dealer so am waiting to hear more about reliability. Would like to rent one but unlikely to find a rental--perhaps a Sonata?

tinydog1

The Azera and Sonata are two totally different cars. The Azera is way more powerful, luxurious and quiet. You have to drive an Azera to believe it. It was just proven to be quieter than an Avalon.

cneuman

pwgilbert

Very surprised to see that you would choose the Azera over a new LS430. I'm particularly interested in what you said because I've been trying to decide between a USED LS430 and a new Azera. Is the choice just based on better value alone? Do you really think the Azera is that great? Just trying to get some help with my decision.

Does anyone have a problem with those plastic looking inside door handles? Do you think that might be changed with the mid year refresh or the 2007 MY? Any other problems with the Azera so far?

sukihock

I have the pedals adjusted to their lowest position as I thought that would provide greatest comfort. Seems counter intuitive, but perhaps I'll try moving them a bit closer and experience how that works. I also own a 2003 Subaru Forester and I'd swear that I'm more comfortable, I assume due to different seating position and how my throttle leg receives a bit more support. Where talking centimeters here, but seems to be making a difference in my comfort level. Thanks for the feedback. I'll experiment with pedal adjustments a bit more.

ateixeira

I think it compares more closely to an Avalon, maybe an ES350 if your focus is on a quiet ride.

-juice

gene_v

Thats pretty high praise for an Azera comparing it to an LS 430 with aprice tag of $57,000 plus a $13,000 premium package adding up to $70,000 plus. :P

cneuman

Would any of you choose a used LS430, say a 2001 or 2002, over the new Azera? Why or why not?
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