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Bob Lutz - Is he making the grade?

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    steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    "General Motors' Bob Lutz will stay on with the new version of the automaker as head of not only product development but also GM's brands, marketing, advertising and communications."

    Lutz Stays On With New GM; Heads All Things Creative (AutoObserver)

    Heads All Things Creative - guess that means he'll be handling the financing too. :P
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    jae5jae5 Member Posts: 1,206
    Well, the rebirth of slick isn't going too well. Right after the announcement of being back, Bob took to the 'ol foot in the mouth approach by announcing the G8 will live on as the Caprice. This actually was a good idea, too bad he wasn't on the same page as Henderson and the rest of "new" GM as they're killing the car all together or perhaps sell the car to police departments as such, again IF they decide to keep it around after Poncho's last bow. One thing for sure, he will be good for quotes. I do think he is wearing too many hats and will be stretched to lean to have any real impact - need to concentrate on one area, two max, and groom people to take over, kind of like Harley Earl grooming Bill Mitchell with a Larry Shinoda in the wings.

    I would have thought Lutz would've tried to get his stalled auto company off the ground again.
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    whoosierdaddywhoosierdaddy Member Posts: 76
    From everything I have read about him, Lutz is the last of the great car guys. He calls it by his gut feeling, which has been mostly spot-on. G8? Look at what used Australian GTO's still sell for--Lutz was if anything ahead of his time. Unfortunately every car in the future will be designed by a commitee, and only with government-motors approval.
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    hpmctorquehpmctorque Member Posts: 4,600
    edited March 2010
    GM announced that Bob Lutz will retire May1, at age 78.

    It's difficult to assess his legacy. He was certainly a colorful character, who didn't mince words. I think he was a positive influence on GM, but his actions unfortunately didn't save GM from bankruptcy. Maybe no single individual could have saved GM by the time Lutz joined the company.

    His comments were humorous, at times, and his outspokenness was refreshing. I hope he continues to comment on the auto industry in his retirement.

    Your thoughts?
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    bumpybumpy Member Posts: 4,425
    He gets an A for effort, and a C- for results. GM cars and trucks look a lot nicer inside and out than they did a decade ago. Yet, he paid too much attention to nichey halo sports cars and not nearly enough on improving the unglamorous bread-and-butter stuff that actually pays the bills.
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    steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    edited April 2011
    Just when you thought Lutz was gone, he's back with a book attacking company finance departments, US business schools, Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh while including plenty of digs at socialists and the left-wing media.

    "Often wrong, but seldom in doubt."

    Sounds like a fun read. At the book stores on June 9.

    Bob Lutz To Glenn Beck: “Eat Your Heart Out. Volt Is The Future.” (MotorTrend)
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    steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    More book excerpts in the Wall St. Journal.

    On the upstart Japanese:

    "The Japanese weren't burdened by legacy costs—pension, health care, or any of the other fixed obligations that burden a company that has existed for more than half a century. Effectively turbocharged by a closed domestic market and a weak yen, it was easy for the Japanese to set up nonunion facilities in Southern states, using handpicked workers, all young and all healthy. They also got some lovely tax breaks for building facilities."

    On Saturn:

    "And herein lay the big mistake in the creation of Saturn: In order to preserve its sanctity, it was given its own engineering, manufacturing, legal staff, and so on. This massive structure was to be supported by the sale of just one compact car: the Saturn S1 four-door sedan, which resembled a mini-Oldsmobile, was neither ugly nor beautiful, and offered average performance and fuel economy."
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    hpmctorquehpmctorque Member Posts: 4,600
    GM has hired Lutz back as a part-time consultant. Does this prove that he's making the grade, that he's made the grade, that GM is looking back instead of forward, or that a 79 year old can still add value? Do consumers really care?
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    fezofezo Member Posts: 10,384
    Don't know that I know the answer to that.

    I did find Lutz's book kind of strange. It certainly sounded like him but he'd throw "facts" that weren't so and go back and forth between , "yeah we built some suck cars there for a while" to saying, referring to the same time period say "our cars were as good as the competition."

    I still don't know what to make of him but he keeps life interesting and certainly a car company seems to put out better product with him vs. without him.
    2015 Mazda 6 Grand Touring, 2014 Mazda 3 Sport Hatchback, 1999 Mazda Miata 2004 Toyota Camry LE, 1999.
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    jae5jae5 Member Posts: 1,206
    As with fezo, can't answer that. The water's too murky to tell.

    On the one hand is the reach-back due to the design / stylists needing a kick in the teeth / butt, which could be considered in some circles good?

    On the other, same thing EXCEPT is there no direction, no one in the current crop who can handle the job, which is BAD?

    In any event, should get some good 'ol foot-in-the-mouth quotables pretty soon...
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    steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    "What is it? A Fisker Karma with the plug-in hybrid system yanked out in favor of a frugal Corvette V-8. In a piquant irony that auto shows live for, the Destino is brought to you by Bob Lutz, the ultimate Car Guy and retired GM vice chairman who championed the plug-in Chevy Volt."

    The Fisker Karma With a V-8, Courtesy of Bob Lutz (NY Times)
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