Mystery car pix

tjc78

Pretty car...I guess keeping one on the road would be a labor of love (and a home equity line of credit).  

lostwrench1

andys120 said:

White over Blue Pontiac convertible just past the white Ford Squire wagon; Im not sure if it's a '55 or '56.

Of those two years, the '56 didn't have two colors on the rear fender so it's a '55.

andys120

Mr_Shiftright said:

Last of the "Marks". When Jaguar had delusions of competing with Rolls and Benz. I must confess these cars are something of a guilty pleasure of mine. All they really need is a better transmission and better electrics.

Nope, not a Jag Mark?, It's a 1967 Jaguar 420, essentially a Mk.II with a different front, a longer trunk and probably more luxe inside. Possibly the last Jag offered w a wire wheel option and the design template for the first Gen of XJ sedans.

ab348

Those dark-painted wire wheels look awful on that car. Cannot imagine that is how they were originally finished.

andys120

ab348 said:

Those dark-painted wire wheels look awful on that car. Cannot imagine that is how they were originally finished.

I agree, it's probably intended to make the car look more "contemporary". Touching up old cars to make 'em look more up to date is usually a mistake IMO. I hate seeing Tri-Chevies with 18-20" wheels.

andys120

ab348

How did the '73 Dodge 4-door hardtop get mixed in with that trio of Ford products? Nice vintage pic.

fintail

Vintage pic only betrayed by the 2009-ish Corolla in the background, of course something like that does the photobomb.

ab348

Oops!

Mr_Shiftright

andys120 said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

Last of the "Marks". When Jaguar had delusions of competing with Rolls and Benz. I must confess these cars are something of a guilty pleasure of mine. All they really need is a better transmission and better electrics.

Nope, not a Jag Mark?, It's a 1967 Jaguar 420, essentially a Mk.II with a different front, a longer trunk and probably more luxe inside. Possibly the last Jag offered w a wire wheel option and the design template for the first Gen of XJ sedans.

Easy to confuse. Here is a 420G, based on the Mark X.

Mr_Shiftright

Actually, come to think of it, maybe the larger and smaller saloons of this era were both the last to be given the Prefix "Mark".

thebean

Mark or 420, either one, I think they are magnificent. Way out of my league, but I love them.

andys120

Mr_Shiftright said:

andys120 said:

Mr_Shiftright said:

Last of the "Marks". When Jaguar had delusions of competing with Rolls and Benz. I must confess these cars are something of a guilty pleasure of mine. All they really need is a better transmission and better electrics.

Nope, not a Jag Mark?, It's a 1967 Jaguar 420, essentially a Mk.II with a different front, a longer trunk and probably more luxe inside. Possibly the last Jag offered w a wire wheel option and the design template for the first Gen of XJ sedans.

Easy to confuse. Here is a 420G, based on the Mark X.

I agree, the 420G and Mark X are easily confused. IIRC the Mark X is a size larger than the 420G which in turn is a size larger than the 420 (no G).

Mr_Shiftright

I think the 420G is on the Mark IX chassis IIRC but not sure. Yes, they are BIG cars, even by American standards.

andys120

ab348 said:

How did the '73 Dodge 4-door hardtop get mixed in with that trio of Ford products? Nice vintage pic.

I'm not sure the car behind the '67 Mustang is a Ford. It looks like a late 60s early 70s Olds to me. I'm not sure if the trucks were F100s or F150s back then.

imidazol97

andys120 said:

ab348 said:

How did the '73 Dodge 4-door hardtop get mixed in with that trio of Ford products? Nice vintage pic.

I'm not sure the car behind the '67 Mustang is a Ford. It looks like a late 60s early 70s Olds to me. I'm not sure if the trucks were F100s or F150s back then.

How about a 1966 Mercury Park Lane. It has the large vents on the front fender and it has the narrow Park Lane emblem on the rear fender.

stickguy

I thought that 4th car in the row was a Mercury.

tmart

Hope the pickup and Stang drivers don’t have to leave. They appear hemmed in pretty good!

andys120

I don't think so. The roofline is vaguely similar but it lacks the flat sides of the '67 Merc and there's no character line just below the door handles.

Perhaps it is a Mercedes from a different year but definitely not a '67 IMO.

imidazol97

I think that's right: it's not a 1966 Mercury Park Lane. It's a 1967. The profile is slightly different on the '67.
I couldn't find a 4-door hardtop exemplar.

berri

I always liked the looks of those mid 60's Mercury's - attractive in an understated manner. Well OK, the one in the picture above probably has a bit too much patina!

imidazol97

The one in the picture of 4 cars earlier is a 1967 because the lower body trim is not linear. The part behind the rear wheel is slanted upward while on the 1966 the lower trim piece is a straight line.

imidazol97

berri said:

I always liked the looks of those mid 60's Mercury's - attractive in an understated manner. Well OK, the one in the picture above probably has a bit too much patina!

It's a shame to see a car sit outside like that and the paint wear away to become rust. The tree droppings on it will acidify and hurt the finish as well.

That green one has a nice appearance even though it's not a hardtop. The chrome trim on the doors really helps.

andys120

stickguy

That one of those Indian knock off jeeps? Maharindi or some such?

andys120

stickguy said:

That one of those Indian knock off jeeps? Maharindi or some such?

Nope, made in the USA.

lostwrench1

andys120 said:

stickguy said:

That one of those Indian knock off jeeps? Maharindi or some such?

Nope, made in the USA.

Surprising. That side step is so Mahindra.

omarman

Hood blocks = old school.
Willys CJ3B and I'm going to guess 1964 just because that's the first time I got a ride in one.

andys120

omarman said:

Hood blocks = old school.
Willys CJ3B and I'm going to guess 1964 just because that's the first time I got a ride in one.

Old school is right, it's the original civilian Jeep, a 1948 Willys Jeep CJ2A. The CJ3B had a single pane windshield and a taller looking grille>

Mr_Shiftright

As if that Jeep is ever going to need a shovel---LOL!

ab348

Last week I was on our crosstown connector here when I encountered a sudden clog in traffic with vehicles ahead braking and getting into different lanes. When I could finally see the cause it was an early Willys jeep, a bit like this but with a metal top and sides. Even worse it was jacked up and riding on a set of oversized balloon off-road tires. It was moving between 35 and 40 mph either because that is all it could do with those tires or perhaps more likely, that was all the driver was willing to do because it was so unstable. It looked like a sneeze could roll it over.

Mr_Shiftright

To say nothing of the decrease in braking and the stress on the suspension parts. It looks cool, one must admit, but in terms of function, not much to justify it unless you are desert racing or some such. And even then, there are dedicated rat racers for that.

andys120

kyfdx

andys120 said:

I don't know what that is, but I want it.

Rear engine?

stickguy

Door fit could use some work.

thebean

Very nice greenhouse on that red classic. I'm with @kyfdx, I want it, but I'm guessing it would not be reliable in the least. I googled it, and I've never heard of this particular model before.

ab348

stickguy said:

Door fit could use some work.

I too had to Google it and now I can assert that door fit is likely the least of your problems.

omarman

okay now I have to google search that pic and find out what's so wrong with that good looking little car!

andys120

I'm afraid that pic is a bit misleading since it shows a sporty version of the car with coachwork by Zagato, here it is from another angle>




...and here is the version that they sold the most of by far>



Hint: the motor is in the back.

thebean

Hillman Zimp, to wrap this up.

fintail

A shot from Leave it to Beaver:

andys120

That's right, Bean, it's a Hillman Zimp the Zagato-bodied version of the Hilman Imp. The squared off green car is the regular Imp, a peculiar car in many respects which sold nearly a half million units from 1963-76. The Imp was a part of the great wave of rear-engined subcompacts that crowded European roads in the 50s and early 60s led by the VW Beetle, Renault Dauphine and the Fiat 500/600.

Things were a little different in Britain where the Imp was the very first British production car with a rear engine and the first with an aluminum alloy block. Hillman's parent, the Rootes Group was the master of "badge-engineering" and so the Imp was sold in versions wearing Singer, Sunbeam and Commer badges and came in a variety of body styles including Estates and panels but there were no convertibles or 4-door saloons.

The Imp's four cylinder was water cooled via a small radiator that lived under the front bumper. The rear of two-door coupes featured an opening rear window giving it a limited
hatchback capability.



Production of Imps was taken over by Chrysler Europe after Chrysler bought the Rootes Group in 1967. AFAIK Imps were never officially imported to the US.

andys120

fintail said:

A shot from Leave it to Beaver:

I'll take the tiny Alfa-Romeo Giulietta Spider in the middle, not something Ward Cleaver would drive.

ab348

Sunbeam Imps were never imported to the USA but they were here in Canada in the 1960s. One of my brothers bought one used around 1967 or so as one of his first cars. Hilarity ensued. A rear-engine water-cooled car with the rad in the front just added one more failure point to the already dodgy British-car unreliability scale. I remember it was woefully underpowered and I think his had clutch problems as well. He was glad to move on from it when it broke for the umpteenth time.

lostwrench1

On the right a '59 Pontiac Bonneville.
On the left a '57 Dodge. An interesting year for the '57 Dodge. Later '57 models had 6 "teeth" rising from the bottom front bumper, the 1957.5.


Anyone remember the Beaver TV episode when "The Beav" won a sports car? That kid was so happy. He sat behind the wheel and was in heaven. But his father had a talk with him telling the Beav that the car has to be sold for money for the Beav's college education. Ward Cleaver was one mean guy.

berri

...and June liked to romp around the house in a dress and apron

thebean

...and sometimes just the apron.

andys120

fintail said:

A shot from Leave it to Beaver:

Behind the '59 Poncho (1st year for split grille) a 53/54-ish GM, maybe an Olds and behind the Alfa a Tri-Chevy, maybe a '55. off to the upper right a 1959 Chevy and a Ponton Mercedes-Benz (W120?).

fintail

Yep the Ponton is a 4cyl car, a W120/121

andys120