Mystery car pix

kyfdx

andys120 said:

I'm going to call the dark Jaguar XK-150 DHC in the middle lane. It could be the oldest car, depending on the age of the VW near it (the stopped making the 150 in 1959 IIRC, the Beetle looks 1960s to me).

There's a small wagon in the far right lane next to a big Chevy wagon. Anybody that can ID the little one?

Atlanta?

What is the newest car? Is that Mustang a '67?

texases

Yeah, I don't see side markers, so it must be a '67. I don't see anything newer.

Michaell

I'll take the VW Squareback in the middle lane going the other way.

ab348

andys120 said:

There's a small wagon in the far right lane next to a big Chevy wagon. Anybody that can ID the little one?

I think you mean next to a big Oldsmobile wagon.

Anyway I think this is what you seek (excuse the heavy breathing): https://youtu.be/2RBPt31v9kA

andys120

ab348 said:

andys120 said:

There's a small wagon in the far right lane next to a big Chevy wagon. Anybody that can ID the little one?

I think you mean next to a big Oldsmobile wagon.

Anyway I think this is what you seek (excuse the heavy breathing): https://youtu.be/2RBPt31v9kA

My bad that is an Olds wagon, not a Chevy. Over at The Old Motor they agree w you that the little wagon is a Simca 1501Z Break. I don't think I've ever heard of them.

andys120

texases said:

Yeah, I don't see side markers, so it must be a '67. I don't see anything newer.

The photo was taken in 1967 so the 'Stang would have to be MY 1967 (unless it was taken late in the yr). I think that's a 1967 Buick coming toward the camera in the middle lane.

ab348

andys120 said:

texases said:

Yeah, I don't see side markers, so it must be a '67. I don't see anything newer.

The photo was taken in 1967 so the 'Stang would have to be MY 1967 (unless it was taken late in the yr). I think that's a 1967 Buick coming toward the camera in the middle lane.

Nope, that Buick is a '66.

Mr_Shiftright

andys120 said:

Brazilian VW SP2. Andys cleverly hid the front of the car, which would have been a dead giveaway.

fintail

Cool pic. I can imagine the fintail in that traffic. In the left lane of oncoming traffic, I will pick off both a 65 and 66 Galaxie 2 door HT. Newest car I quickly spot is a 67 Mustang in the left lane of traffic moving away.

Little wagon is giving me fits. Obviously foreign, looks Japanese but doesn't ring a bell, also makes me think "Simca" but doesn't seem to fit either.

andys120 said:

There's a small wagon in the far right lane next to a big Chevy wagon. Anybody that can ID the little one?

andys120

fintail said:

Little wagon is giving me fits. Obviously foreign, looks Japanese but doesn't ring a bell, also makes me think "Simca" but doesn't seem to fit either.


You must've missed the post where AB348 Id'ed it as a Simca 1510SZ Break (ca. mid '60s).

andys120

stickguy

looks like an Alfa and a Jaguar got to shagging sometime in the early 60's, and well, you know what can happen...

fintail

I missed a couple posts, apparently

Good call ab348, and I am pleased that I wasn't too off track

andys120 said:

You must've missed the post where AB348 Id'ed it as a Simca 1510SZ Break (ca. mid '60s).

omarman

stickguy said:

looks like an Alfa and a Jaguar got to shagging sometime in the early 60's, and well, you know what can happen...

Funny! About 20 years later, Lancia created a world beater rally car powered by the Ferrari Dino V6.

Mr_Shiftright

Awesome car! The Stratos!

omarman

Yes! World Rally Championship winner in 1974, 1975 and 1976.

Built solely for racing but now found mostly in museums.

Mr_Shiftright

And, with the right credential, worth a cool 1/2 mil.

andys120

Apparently you've figured out that the black/green berlinetta I posted is a Lancia (the grille is a good clue). Anybody want to be more specific? MY? model?

Mr_Shiftright

Oh, all right. I'll do it---that's a Lancia B20, early-mid 50s I would guess.

andys120

1952 Lancia Aurelia B52. Gianni Michelotti did the design while working for Carrozzeria Vignale.

We've talked before about what advanced designs the Aurelias were (1st production V6/1st standard radial tires) but until I did the research on this one I had no idea how many different designs they had. There were four-door Berlinas, Cabriolets, Spiders, fastback coupes, notchbacks, six major series and a dozen subtypes (B-followed by a number).

They got bodywork from every major coach builder in Italy (at least a half dozen including Pininfarina, Ghia, Touring, Vignale). All had the same front fender and hood shapes but significant detail differences (roof shapes, scoops, windshields, taillights etc).

It's pretty amazing considering just over 18,000 were made, all between 1950-58. Survivors are already hot collectors items and some will surely be worth millions before long.

I don't know if they were ever officially exported to the US

Mr_Shiftright

Ah--so it has the B20 guts but is on a longer wheelbase. There are a number of Lancia special-bodied cars that I'm not familiar with. There is even a "B51 Woody" but I've never seen one.

There are also B50 and B51 cabriolets, and something called a B10. Not sure what that is/was.

andys120

The 1950 Aurelia B10 was the first Aurelia, it featured a transaxle, inboard brakes and other innovations. That "woody" Giardeneria looks like a B10.



How cool is this for a 1950 car>

Mr_Shiftright

What a little jewel.

lostwrench1

Mr_Shiftright said:

Ah--so it has the B20 guts but is on a longer wheelbase. There are a number of Lancia special-bodied cars that I'm not familiar with. There is even a "B51 Woody" but I've never seen one.

There are also B50 and B51 cabriolets, and something called a B10. Not sure what that is/was.

That rear wheel needs a camber check.

andys120

Interesting thing noticed about your Lancia SW, Mr. S: in the background there are signs in English, mostly for US brands and American cars (Rambler/Nash and Kaiser). Likely this is a US car show which should mean that the Aurelias were imported here.

Darned if I've ever seen one, not even at big antique car shows.

imidazol97

Not sure this is the right place to post this find from last weekend's car shows/cruise ins.

Mr_Shiftright

A very ratty MG TD. The least loved of the postwar "T" series. MG send a lot of these to the USA, so they are still fairly common. I still come across them, stashed in garages here and there.

imidazol97

Owner claimed front fenders had been reshaped to same as TC fenders. 

Mr_Shiftright

With those dinky wheels and fat tires and wider body, the TD loses all the charm of the TC in my opinion. Buyers and collectors seem to agree.

kyfdx

New member needs some help:
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andys120

I think the oldest car visible is a '49-'51 Mopar, the roof or which is visible just above the red/white wagon (which might be the next oldest). The newest date from the 1966 MY (there's more than one.

magnette

Hello folks

I've been off site for a while due to various issues but am back now I think although had to re-establish my sign in procedure.

That red and white little wagon is a Hillman Husky and I think that would be about a 1958-62 model although could just about be a '63

fintail

I'll pick off the somewhat pretty looking 62 Galaxie convertible towards the right.

I also see 2 Rambler reverse slant C-pillars in the crowd.

texases

At least two Mustangs, the dark green with black vinyl roof (never saw one with a badge on the vinyl before), I think it's a '65 (gas cap looks like a '65), and the gold one that looks like a convertible (could be '65 or '66). There looks to be a dark red one on the second row, too.

ab348

Welcome back, @magnette ! Was afraid we lost you in the login transition. Always appreciate your perspective.

magnette

Hi ab348-

Yes I was having issues with the transition but I was then off sick for a couple of weeks too although that is now mostly resolved as well....

andys120

magnette said:

Hello folks


That red and white little wagon is a Hillman Husky and I think that would be about a 1958-62 model although could just about be a '63

Welcome back Mag , my first thought on that wagon was Volvo Duett>



But now that you mention the Husky, the side windows match up better>


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Curiously the red/white scheme was apparently popular on both wagons.

andys120

texases said:

At least two Mustangs, the dark green with black vinyl roof (never saw one with a badge on the vinyl before), I think it's a '65 (gas cap looks like a '65), and the gold one that looks like a convertible (could be '65 or '66). There looks to be a dark red one on the second row, too.

I've never seen that badge either, it's probably aftermarket.

This photo was taken in Boston (Prudential Bldg. in background) probably in 1966. Aside from the gold convertible I see two cars that are '66MY. Do you see 'em?

magnette

Hi Andy

I was thinking of the slightly later series II as in this brochure illustration which resembled the later design of Hillman Minx which was a bit "squarer " than that one but they are pretty similar.



However I hadn't thought of the Volvo Duetto but it is pretty similar too....

fintail

I think the car at far left, to the left of a 61 Chevy, is a 67 Impala.

Mr_Shiftright

magnette said:

Hi Andy

I was thinking of the slightly later series II as in this brochure illustration which resembled the later design of Hillman Minx which was a bit "squarer " than that one but they are pretty similar.



However I hadn't thought of the Volvo Duetto but it is pretty similar too....

Either that's the world's tallest Hillman or that man is about 4' 10".

texases

...or he's standing 100' behind it!

andys120

fintail said:

I think the car at far left, to the left of a 61 Chevy, is a 67 Impala.

Damn, you're right again. I was sure that blue car was a '66 Catalina but those don't have the little ridge atop the fender. That makes the '67 Chevy the newest car.

FWIW, a "Duetto" was an Alfa, Volvo's wagon was a "Duett"

magnette

I forgot the Duett rather than Duetto - we didn't get that Volvo offered here at all so it wasn't known to me as a kid and although there are some about now they would really be imported as classic cars etc...

magnette

Either that's the world's tallest Hillman or that man is about 4' 10".



Yes - a bit of artistic licence I think

Also the brochure makes it look more long in proportion compared with the real thing...

andys120

fintail said:

I think the car at far left, to the left of a 61 Chevy, is a 67 Impala.

I thought it was '66 Catalina but since you mentioned the Impala, I noticed it has a ridge just below the fender line. '67 Chevy has it, Catalina doesn't. Looks like the Chevy is the newest car,
anybody see a newer car?

andys120

A few that haven't been mentioned: a white over blue '55 Chevy (Bel Air?) two door, a 1966 (or 67?) Plymouth next to the '61 Chevy flattop, and visible just over the Plymouth's roof is a dark blue 1963 Pontiac Grand Prix.

I think the blue ragtop behind the Tri-Chevy is a '61 Ford Galaxie.

fintail

I am quite certain the blue Galaxie is a 62.

The silvery-grey car to the left of it (or right of it, if you are inside the Galaxie) appears to be a 65 Impala.

andys120

fintail said:

I am quite certain the blue Galaxie is a 62.

The silvery-grey car to the left of it (or right of it, if you are inside the Galaxie) appears to be a 65 Impala.

The more I look at it, the more I seen that you're right. The chrome thingie at center of the grille is the tell. It wasn't on the '61s, in fact it wasn't on all '62s.

Some had it>




Some didn't>



Dn't know why, perhaps this distinguished a 500XL from a mere XL.

andys120

BTW Fin, I think you're right about that '65 Impala. It comes across very light metallic green on my monitor, not silver.