Mystery car pix

andys120

Pagani Zonda S ca. 2002.

andys120

Brochure art often made ars look longer/lower/wider but this is ridiculous!

tmart

The 55 Thunderbird appears about right, but the trunk on the 55 Ford Sunliner is beyond unreal !

fintail

I also like ads when the human figures all appear to be about 4' tall, or other features are exaggerated (yes, I know this was also a marketing feature of the car):




The dump, Seattle, should zoom in fairly well:

omarman

Big wide doors, frame, glass and interior.

Small passenger bodies.
Meanwhile across the pond (Netherlands?) in 1960...

tmart

The 60 Ford’s backseat was large, but OMG that looks like 7 feet! Europe must use dwarfs.

imidazol97

55 Buick.
56 Mercury 2-door hardtop.

andys120

tmart said:

The 55 Thunderbird appears about right, but the trunk on the 55 Ford Sunliner is beyond unreal !

Yes, I sgree. I guess the Bird didn't need the stretch-art because it's already sleek and low.

Lostwrench3

On the right, an easy to ID 1956 Plymouth wagon.
Also in there, a 1953 Studebaker.

bhill2

There is a murdered out '51(possibly '50) Stude next to it, and a coupe (about '55 I think) next to that. The one that really caught my eye is the '56 Dodge wagon on the left. Looks top of the line (Custom Sierra?)

ab348

Parking lot, unknown location, 1970s. Starting to see those funny furrin' cars starting to pop up. Expands a bit.

Lostwrench3

bhill2 said:

There is a murdered out '51(possibly '50) Stude next to it, and a coupe (about '55 I think) next to that. The one that really caught my eye is the '56 Dodge wagon on the left. Looks top of the line (Custom Sierra?)

Yes, but a 1955.

fintail

I'll guess around 1978. Some pretty cool obscure stuff there. Most valuable thing there is probably the Microbus in the back, left.

To pick off a few, I see 2x Audi Fox, 2x Datsun B210 (one beside a Fiat 128 at lower left), kind of in the middle beside a Pacer is a Sapporo/Challenger (I see another stuck in the back row at right), at left between a few VWs and what looks like the rear of a 68-69 Falcon is a white Capri II, rare. Rarest thing might be what appears to be a Volvo 444/544 Duett, dark color, apparent roof rack, center row towards rear, across from a downsized Coupe DeVille.

ab348 said:

Parking lot, unknown location, 1970s. Starting to see those funny furrin' cars starting to pop up. Expands a bit.

fintail

Maybe kids dressed as adults?

omarman said:

Big wide doors, frame, glass and interior.
Small passenger bodies.
Meanwhile across the pond (Netherlands?) in 1960...

sda

I like that silver Challenger next to the Pacer. That butterscotch color on the 4dr 73 Nova was the same as on our 73 GrandAm. The GrandAm had the saddle brown interior which I liked. Not my favorite exterior color at all.

xwesx

fintail said:

I'll guess around 1978. Some pretty cool obscure stuff there. Most valuable thing there is probably the Microbus in the back, left.

To pick off a few, I see 2x Audi Fox, 2x Datsun B210 (one beside a Fiat 128 at lower left), kind of in the middle beside a Pacer is a Sapporo/Challenger (I see another stuck in the back row at right), at left between a few VWs and what looks like the rear of a 68-69 Falcon is a white Capri II, rare. Rarest thing might be what appears to be a Volvo 444/544 Duett, dark color, apparent roof rack, center row towards rear, across from a downsized Coupe DeVille.

ab348 said:

Parking lot, unknown location, 1970s. Starting to see those funny furrin' cars starting to pop up. Expands a bit.

Bah, you beat me to it! I was going to say that the 23-window bus is likely the most valuable item in the lot, today.

A couple of Rabbits, a Pacer, both a full-size and mid-sixties van. Perhaps the most striking thing about the photo is how dominant sedans and coupes were in that time. Now, there would be as many in the photo as there are pickups in this one!

fintail

Either roads were smoother or there was less rugged/outdoorsy cosplay then.

Another one to call out, third row "up", at right, an "atomic cockroach"/"astro boy" Datsun 200SX, now very rare too.

xwesx said:

Bah, you beat me to it! I was going to say that the 23-window bus is likely the most valuable item in the lot, today.

A couple of Rabbits, a Pacer, both a full-size and mid-sixties van. Perhaps the most striking thing about the photo is how dominant sedans and coupes were in that time. Now, there would be as many in the photo as there are pickups in this one!

stickguy

I think we saw that parking lot picture before. But I appreciate something with cars from my era that I can easily pick out!

bhill2

sda said:

I like that silver Challenger next to the Pacer. That butterscotch color on the 4dr 73 Nova was the same as on our 73 GrandAm. The GrandAm had the saddle brown interior which I liked. Not my favorite exterior color at all.

If you go four to the right of the Challenger you will find a kind of copper colored Volvo 164. It is the visual twin to the one my parents owned (I can't tell if it is a '72 like theirs). Theirs was an automatic. I liked the car a lot despite the slush box (it was almost criminally comfortable). Then the dealer offered me an incredible deal on a left-over '72 with stick shift and overdrive (164s with a stick sold like cold sore transplants, and the '73s were in). I took it. I have to say I really enjoyed the comfort and with that overdrive it was a great road car. It was also something of a sleeper at the time.

ab348

I remember around that same time in the early '70s my dad was in love with his '68 144 but it was starting to get a bit old. He came home one day from the dealer with a 164 stick shift on an overnight trial. I had just gotten my license so he let me drive it with him. It was a lovely car and I was OK with the manual trans, but he decided that with his constant running around in city traffic being a real estate salesman it probably would get old for him pretty quickly. So he sent it back and we eventually bought a '73 144 automatic. That was a terrible car and the Borg Warner transmission just soaked up what little power the Volvo 4-banger had.

ab348

stickguy said:

I think we saw that parking lot picture before.

Well, not by me, as I saved it just 10 days ago.

Interesting thing in that pic. There is a '68 Ford Galaxie 2-door parked side by side with a late-70s downsized Pontiac Catalina 2-door and on the opposite side a full-size '73 or so Buick. From L to R it reads as "large, medium, small" for cars with roughly similar amounts of interior space.

magnette

Firstly - yes on the Zonda - I have no idea of the year for those so can't comment on that

The brochure art on the Dutch Mk II Consul & Zephyr shows side trim which was not offered here but I have seen a picture of a Zephyr Wagon with similar stripes although not the same in Australia - however they had a different coach builder as their wagons were done locally whereas British Ford wagons were by Abbotts for the Mks I - IV Consul / Zephyr / Zodiac and the Corsair, while Ford themselves did the Anglia and Cortina in house by the sixties

magnette

Grey Vega wagon near end of left side of middle stack

andys120

Blows up big!



Magnette probably can ID the buses and maybe where this was taken. I think the grey car in lower right going out of scene is a Humber Super Snipe. The 3-wheeler is the Reliant model that Clarkson flipped multiple times on Top Gear but I've forgotten the model name.

ab348

I will leave the vehicles to others but there is an interesting curiosity for me in that pic which is the sign on the building adjacent to the Routemaster double-decker for the Robert McAlpine Construction Company. I always thought they were a local (or at least Canadian) company as they were big here in the '60s and '70s for many of our downtown's urban renewal projects. But there was a UK connection to much of the planning and design work for those projects at the time, so maybe they set up a branch here to do those. I don't think they are here nowadays, but Google tells me they are still big in the UK.

stickguy

Car in the center looks like a Capri.

fintail

I think the Humber exiting at right is a Hawk. Reliant Robin van has an "N" plate, so around 1975. Car exiting at left is a Mk III Ford Zephyr.

fintail

I don't recall that pic. More 67-68 Fords in that shot than I'd expect.

ab348 said:

stickguy said:

I think we saw that parking lot picture before.

Well, not by me, as I saved it just 10 days ago.

Interesting thing in that pic. There is a '68 Ford Galaxie 2-door parked side by side with a late-70s downsized Pontiac Catalina 2-door and on the opposite side a full-size '73 or so Buick. From L to R it reads as "large, medium, small" for cars with roughly similar amounts of interior space.

fintail

I remember when I was a young kid, I thought those 6cyl 70s Volvos were somehow related to Jaguars, due to the somewhat similar grille and round lights.

bhill2 said:

If you go four to the right of the Challenger you will find a kind of copper colored Volvo 164. It is the visual twin to the one my parents owned (I can't tell if it is a '72 like theirs). Theirs was an automatic. I liked the car a lot despite the slush box (it was almost criminally comfortable). Then the dealer offered me an incredible deal on a left-over '72 with stick shift and overdrive (164s with a stick sold like cold sore transplants, and the '73s were in). I took it. I have to say I really enjoyed the comfort and with that overdrive it was a great road car. It was also something of a sleeper at the time.

stickguy

Parking lot picture, toward the right, is an orange/red Opel GT

andys120

stickguy said:

Car in the center looks like a Capri.

Yup, sold here as a Mercury Capri, elsewhere as a Ford Capri.

andys120

Behind the Capri you see a London cab. IIRC they were badged as "Beardmores".

andys120

stickguy

Fox body mustang Cobra.

andys120

stickguy said:

Fox body mustang Cobra.

Exactly, MY 1993.

andys120

texases

‘88 NUMMI Nova hatchback? Practical as it is ungainly.

fintail

In production from MY 1984 onwards (also as Corolla, but those only through 87). My grandpa had a NUMMI Nova notchback sedan, was a company car that he bought out. I remember it had Toyota floor mats.

magnette

Yes, we did have some Beardmore taxis in the fifties but they weren't as common as the Austin ones - about 90% of all taxis built postwar for London were the Austin FX3 or its successor from 1959, the FX4. Both examples in this picture are the latter.

The buses are both Routemasters - in the last week or so it has been announced that London Transport will be withdrawing the last route to use Routemasters by the beginning of May, although in practice it was just a route from the Tower to Trafalgar Square - really just for tourists as it is iconic -

Very efficient use of space too - the standard bus was 27.5 feet long and the extended version (they added another seat and a little window in the middle on later ones making them 30 feet long ) and they seated 64 passengers - 72 in the long version and they were also very light using a lot of aluminium

About 2700 were used in London at one time and they are as symbolic here as the telephone box (also disappearing in some places since mobile phones ) or the London Taxi

Picture is in Lower Regent Street - Piccadilly is behind the photographer, and the column in the distance is the Duke of York Monument, in Pall Mall

andys120

It's a Woodie!!

magnette

Early 50's Fiat 500 C Belvedere
This one is registered in Monaco - small car - small nation

andys120

magnette said:

Early 50's Fiat 500 C Belvedere
This one is registered in Monaco - small car - small nation

You're right but they call it a Fiat 500C Topolino Giardeneria no mention of the word Belvedere

andys120

magnette

Yes, I thought the Giardenaria name applied to the earlier version but had the idea the later version was called Belvedere but I must admit I don't know where I got that from

Probably a senior moment .....

sda

62 Mercury. I was never impressed by Ford’s lack of effort of integrating factory a/c by using a hang on unit instead of having the vents and controls integrated into the dash like similar GM and Chrysler cars.

xwesx

Mercury! I thought it looked like a Ford, but I couldn't pin the rear lights.

fintail

Angle on that Mercury reminds me of the Dennis the Menace episode where Mr. Wilson (Gayle Gordon by then) gets in a fender bender with Mrs. Elkins:

imidazol97

Putting the word "Mercury" on the narrow rounded ridge in front of the taillights looks odd.
I didn't remember seeing that before. Maybe it was only on high end models?

Lostwrench3

imidazol97 said:

Putting the word "Mercury" on the narrow rounded ridge in front of the taillights looks odd.
I didn't remember seeing that before. Maybe it was only on high end models?

It is "Monterey".

andys120

Yup, it's a 1962 Mercury Monterey the silver segment on the dash may indicate that it's a performance variant the S-22.